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Reply received: August 2012

QUESTION NO 1946

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 3 AUGUST 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 21-2012)

Date reply submitted: 20 August 2012

1946. Mr M Waters (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether any progress has been made with regard to a certain case (details furnished) reported at the Margate Police station; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details;

(2) who is the investigating officer assigned to the case;

(3) whether a toxicology report into the cause of the death has been completed; if not, (a) why not and (b) when will it be conducted; if so, (i) when was it completed, (ii) at which forensics laboratory was the test done and (iii) what were the findings?

NW2335E

REPLY:

(1) The investigation of the case docket is at an advanced stage and only the toxicology report is being awaited. The case docket is currently with the Senior Public Prosecutor at the Port Shepstone Magistrates' court.

(2) The investigating officer is Warrant Officer SG Mbhele of Margate detective service.

(3) The toxicology report has not yet been completed.

(a) the Forensic Chemistry Laboratories of the Department of Health experiences huge backlogs in the analysis of toxicology specimens.

(b) it is unknown when the analysis of the toxicology specimens will be finalized.

(i) Not applicable.

(ii) Forensic Chemistry Laboratory in Pretoria.

(iii) Not applicable.

Reply received: August 2012

QUESTION NO 1902

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 3 AUGUST 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 21-2012)

Date reply submitted: 20 August 2012

1902. Mrs D Robinson (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether SA Police Service officers are trained in removing older persons from abusive situations in terms of the Older Persons Act, Act 13 of 2006; if not, why not; if so, (a) what type of training took place, (b) in which provinces, (c) on what dates and (d) how many police officers were involved in the training?

NW2291E

REPLY:

(a) Yes, in Family Violence, Child Protection and Sexual Offences Detective Learning Programme and the Harmful Occult Related Crime Learning Programme.

(b) Detectives nationally and from all 9 provinces are trained in the above mentioned Learning Programmes.

(c) and (d) As per nominations from the provinces:

Family Violence, Child Protection and Sexual Offences Detective Learning Programme

2008/9

2009/10

2010/11

2011/12

2012/13

TOTAL

184

250

251

251

100

1036

Harmful Occult Related Crime Learning Programme

2012/13

TOTAL

20

20

Reply received: August 2012

QUESTION NO 1900

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 3 AUGUST 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 21-2012)

Date reply submitted: 20 August 2012

1900. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether any members of the SA Police Service have been (a) arrested, (b) charged or (c) dismissed for (i) driving under the influence of alcohol or (ii) exceeding the speed limit in each of the past three financial years up to the latest specified date for which information is available; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, in each case, how many members per province?

NW2289E

REPLY:

The information that is required is not readily available on the SAPS system and would have to be obtained from the Provinces at considerable man hours to the department.

Reply received: August 2012

QUESTION NO 1898

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 3 AUGUST 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 21-2012)

1898. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) With reference to his reply to question 1182 on 29 May 2012, when did (a) the security clearances of certain persons (names furnished) expire and (b) each specified person apply for renewal;

(2) whether each of these persons was subjected to security clearance vetting; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW2287E

REPLY:

(1)(a) Lieutenant General Mdluli's security clearance expired on 2011-02-14 and Maj General Solomon Lazarus' security clearance expired on 2010-04-14.

(1)(b) Lieutenant General Mdluli's application for renewal was tendered to the Vetting Office at Crime Intelligence Head Office on 2011-03-11. Major General Solomon Lazarus' application for renewal was received by the Vetting Office at Crime Intelligence Head Office with incomplete information on 2010-12-06. It was sent back to Major General Lazarus for corrections, but to date was never returned to the Vetting Office at Crime Intelligence Head Office.

(2) Lieutenant General Richard Mdluli's application for renewal has been kept on hold, pending the outcome of his suspension on 20 April 2011, as well as possible criminal charges and or departmental proceedings. Major General Solomon Lazarus' security clearance vetting (competency determination) could not be continued due to the non return of the outstanding documentation.

Reply received: August 2012

QUESTION NO 1869

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 3 AUGUST 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 21-2012)

Date reply submitted: 20 August 2012

1869. Mr M G P Lekota (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether the training of SA Police Service (SAPS) members includes (a) the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa, 1996, (b) customary international law and (c) international agreements binding on the Republic; if not, why not; if so, (i) who was training the SAPS members, (ii) who had developed the curriculum regarding the constitutional obligations, (iii) who was testing them on these training and learning areas, (iv) what qualifications are SAPS members accredited with upon completing their training and (v) what incentives are provided to SAPS members who had completed the training?

NW2257E

REPLY:

The responses to the question as requested are as follows;

(a) The Constitution of the Republic of South Africa (1996) is presented in parts in the following programmes, but not limited to:

· Human Rights Learning Programme

· Resolving of Crime Learning Programme

· Family Violence, Child Protection & Sexual Offences Learning Programme

· Lateral Entry Programme for MMS/SMS members

· Introductory to Basic police Development Learning Programme

· Induction Learning Programme

· Basic Police Development Learning Programme

· Second Hands Goods Act Learning Programme

· Human Trafficking Learning Programme

· Client Services Learning programme

· Harmful Occult Related Crimes Learning Programme

· Crime Prevention Leaning Programme

· Vulnerable Children Learning Programme

· Basic Management Learning Programme

· Domestic Violence Learning Programme

· Crowd Management Learning Programme

· Platoon Member Learning Programme

· Platoon Commander Learning Programme

· Operational Commander Training (OCT)

(b) Customary International Law;

· No programmes currently have bearing on this topic.

(c) International Agreements Binding on the Republic of South Africa. The following two programmes have bearing, namely:

· Family Violence, Child Protection & Sexual Offences Learning Programme

· Human Rights Learning Programme

i. Most of the programmes are presented through the Division: Human Resource Development by the three main provisioning components, namely:

· In-Service Police Development

· Basic Police Development

· Management, Leadership and International Development

The programmes are presented mostly by trained trainers and content specialists in the SAPS Academies and on some occasion presented by external providers if the skill is not present in the SAPS.

ii. The content of the learning material is developed by a Component within the Division: Human Resource Development, namely General Research and Curriculum Development.

· The development of a programme is done in conjunction with content specialists and consultants in the field of expertise in accordance with Education, Training and Development principles.

iii. The assessments are in accordance with the learning programmes and take place at the site where training is being presented.

iv. Some programmes are skills programmes and are not necessarily full qualifications where people have not qualified for full credits. The qualifications are awarded in line with the National Qualifications Framework.

v. Certificates are awarded for the programmes.

Reply received: August 2012

QUESTION NO 1866

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 3 AUGUST 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 21-2012)

Date reply submitted: 20 August 2012

1866. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) How many reservists in each province joined the SA Police Service (SAPS) (a) in (i) 2010 and (ii) 2011 and (b) since 1 January 2012;

(2) whether a moratorium has been placed on the appointment of reservists; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, why;

(3) whether reservists who are currently in the service of the SAPS receive remuneration; if not, why not; if so,

(4) whether any moratorium has been placed on the remuneration of reservists; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, what are the relevant details;

(5) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

NW2121E

REPLY:

(1) (a) (i) 3265 were recruited as permanent member of the South African Police Service in 2009/10

(ii) 1577 were recruited as permanent member of the South African Police Service in 2009/10

(b) No reservists joined the South African Police Service since 1 January 2012.

(2) No, a moratorium on the appointment of reservists is not in place. However, the applications for new enlistment of reservist are being considered, based on the final sign off, of the national policy on the future utilisation of reservists in the South African Police Service.

(3) The reservist system is a voluntary system and reservists who perform duties therefore do not receive any remuneration in general. However, the National or Provincial Commissioner may, if he or she deems it necessary in order to achieve the objects referred to in Section 205 (3) of the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa, 1996 (Act No, 108 of 1996), call up reservists to perform specific duties for which they may be remunerated in terms of the Regulations for the South African Reserve Police Service, GNR. 334 of 22 March 2002.

(4) No, a moratorium has not been placed on the remuneration of reservists. If a specific need exists at national or provincial level to call reservists to perform duties as per above paragraph 3, such reservists will be called and will receive remuneration for duties performed at the tariff as determined by the National Commissioner from time to time.

(5) No.

Reply received: August 2012

QUESTION NO 1832

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 27 JULY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 20-2012)

Date reply submitted: 20 August 2012

1832. Mrs H Lamoela (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(a) How many crimes against persons with disabilities have been documented since 1 January 2010, (b) what (i) is the current status of the specified crimes and (ii) measures are in place to ensure that persons with disabilities do not suffer secondary victimisation?

NW2224E

REPLY:

The requested information is not available as the information cannot be obtained from the Crime Administration System or from the case docket. It is not documented if a person has a disability or not.

Reply received: August 2012

QUESTION NO 1826

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 27 JULY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 20-2012)

Date reply submitted: 20 August 2012

1826. Mr D J Maynier (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) In respect of the Regulation of Interception of Communications and Provision of Communication-related Information Act, Act 70 of 2002, (a) how much did the SA Police Service pay and (b) what was the breakdown of such payments to each specified (i) postal service provider, (ii) telecommunications service and (iii) decryption key holder in the (aa) 2003-04, (bb) 2004-05, (cc) 2005-06, (dd) 2006-07, (ee) 2007-08, (ff) 2008-09, (gg) 2009-10, (hh) 2010-11 and (ii) 2011-12 financial years;

(2) how much did the SA Police Service pay in total to each specified (a) postal service provider, (b) telecommunications service and (c) decryption key holder during the period 1 April 2003 to 31 March 2012?

NW2218E

REPLY:

The information requested forms part of records of the Joint Standing Committee on Intelligence and are reported to this Standing Committee as part of it mandate to deal with matter of a security nature.

Reply received: August 2012

QUESTION NO 1816

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 27 JULY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 20-2012)

Date reply submitted: 20 August 2012

1816. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

What (a) is the current (i) rank, (ii) position and (ii) salary level of a certain SA Police Service officer (name furnished) and (b) was his (i) rank, (ii) position and (iii) salary level on 17 October 2011?

NW2208E

REPLY:

(a)(i) Lieutenant General.

(a)(ii) He has been up until the 12th June 2012 Acting National Commissioner for SAPS. He is currently dealing with handover processes to the National Commissioner. After finalisation of the handover he shall be deployed to a relevant position in SAPS.

(a)(iii) The police officer is remunerated at salary level SMS Grade C.

(b)(i) Major General.

(b)(ii) Head: Specialised Operations: Division: Operational Response Services.

(b)(iii) The police officer was remunerated at salary level SMS Grade B.

Reply received: December 2012

QUESTION NO 1688

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 22 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 19-2012)

Date reply submitted: 13 December 2012

1688. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) How many members of the SA Police Services (SAPS) in each province have been charged with (a) murder, (b) rape, (c) armed robbery, (d) corruption and (e) any other specified serious offence;

(2) Whether all of the members who were charged with serious offences were dismissed from the SAPS; if not, why not; if so,

(3) Whether the SAPS members were dismissed with benefits; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details in each case?

NW2037E

REPLY:

(1) and (2) Information on questions (1) and (2) for the financial years 2011/2012 as follows:

PROVINCES/DIVISIONS

Gauteng

Mpumalanga

Northern Cape

Western Cape

Eastern Cape

KwaZulu-Natal

Free State

North West

Limpopo

Protection and Security

Supply Chain management

Crime Intelligence

CR & FSS

DPCI

HRD

Legal Services

ORS

Vispol

Total

(1) Total number of members charged with -

(a) Murder

19

7

7

23

30

21

18

2

7

4

0

2

0

0

2

0

1

1

144

(b) Rape

12

5

8

25

14

11

3

3

4

2

0

0

2

0

2

0

0

0

91

(c) Armed Robbery

6

2

0

5

14

2

3

4

2

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

38

(d) Corruption

273

51

38

214

105

143

63

54

59

5

3

11

1

6

10

1

9

4

1050

Total

310

65

53

267

163

177

87

63

72

11

3

13

3

6

14

1

10

5

1323

(2) No, because not all members charged in these categories were found guilty on the charges laid

(3) No. SAPS members dismissed as a result of misconduct are not entitled to any benefits other than benefits contained in the pension rules as set out by the relevant pension fund.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1684

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 22 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 19-2012)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2012

1684. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether any members of the SA Police Service (SAPS) are currently on suspension pending the outcome of a disciplinary hearing; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, (a) what number of SAPS members are currently on suspension in each (i) province and (ii) rank and (b) in each case, (i) on what (aa) grounds and (bb) charges and (ii) for how many days?

NW2030E

REPLY:

(1) Yes. Information as follows:

Province

(a)(i)

Number of SAPS members currently

on suspension

(a)(ii)

Rank

Gauteng

35

Constable, Sergeant, W/officer, Captain, Lt Colonel, Colonel

Mpumalanga

12

Constable, Sergeant, Admin clerk

Northern Cape

2

Constable

Western Cape

26

Constable, Sergeant, W/officer, Captain,

Eastern Cape

11

Constable, Sergeant, W/officer,

KwaZulu-Natal

21

Constable, Sergeant, W/officer, Captain, Colonel

Free State

13

Constable, W/fficer,

North West

6

Constable, Captain, Admin clerk

Limpopo

14

Constable, Sergeant, W/officer, Captain, Admin clerk

PSS

1

Admin clerk

HRD

5

W/officer, Admin clerk, Personnel officer

SCM

1

Lt General

CI

3

Maj General, Lt General

Total

150

(b) Members currently on suspension in each case -

(b)(i)(aa)

What grounds

of suspension

(b)(i)(bb)

Charges

Members are suspended as a precau-tionary measure.

Theft

Corruption

Rape

Armed Robbery

Sexual Assault

Malicious damage to property

Attempted murder

Murder

Assault

Dealing with illegal substances

Robbery

Kidnapping

Possession of unlicensed firearm

Shooting incident

Pointing of firearm

Intimidation

Possession of stolen goods

Reckless and negligent driving

Disciplinary processes for two SMS members are dealt with by external bodies appointed by the National Commissioner. For the other two SMS members, the disciplinary processes are not yet finalized as the investigation process is still proceeding.

b (ii) Average days for suspensions with full remuneration is 258 days.

Average days for suspensions without remuneration is 57 days.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1683

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 22 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 19-2012)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2012

1683. Ms E More (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) How many children were murdered in each province in the (a) 2009-10, (b) 2010-11 and (c) 2011-12 financial years;

(2) whether any weapons were used to murder any of these children in any of the financial years; if not, what was the cause of death in each case; if so, what type of weapon was used in each case;

(3) how many children were murdered by persons (a) younger than 18 years of age, (b) between the ages of 18 and 21 and (c) 22 years and older?

NW2027E

REPLY:

Due to the high volume of information that is required we are not able to provide the details within the given time frame as the information is obtained from the Provinces.

Reply received: August 2012

QUESTION NO 1670

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 15 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 18-2012)

Date reply submitted:6 August 2012

1670. Mr D J Stubbe (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether any action has been taken against any officials of the SA Police Service as a result of the death of a certain person (name and details furnished); if not, why not; if so, what (a) action and (b) are the further relevant details;

(2) whether any (a) mechanisms and (b) protocols are in place at police stations to prevent (i) violence in cells and (ii) injury to arrested persons; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details in each case?

NW2015E

REPLY:

(1)(a) I have instructed the Independent Police Investigative Directorate to investigate this matter and to report back to me on whether any action should be taken.

(1)(b) A case of murder and common robbery was opened as per SAPS Durbanville CAS number 399/04/2012. Two (2) suspects (inmates) namely: Isaac Shepherd and Daniel Josh were charged. The case was remanded to 2012-06-26 without an option of bail.

(2)(a) Yes, SAPS has official directives regulating the safe custody and handling of persons in custody. Standing Order (General) 361.13 regulates the safe custody and handling of all the various categories of persons in police custody, including the restraining, searching and visiting of these persons in the police detention facilities.

(b) Yes.

(i) Yes.

(ii) Yes.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1651

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 15 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 18-2012)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2012

1651. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

With reference to the remarks made by a certain person (name and details furnished) with regard to the failure by police stations in parts of the country to forward complaints to the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) on time or at all, what steps does he intend to take to (a) deal with this failure and (b) assist the IPID in fulfilling its constitutional mandate as police watchdog?

NW1981E

REPLY:

In terms of subsection 29(1) of the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) Act 1 of 2011, the Station Commander, or any member of the South African Police Service or Municipal Police Service must-

(a) immediately after becoming aware, notify the Directorate of any matters referred to in section 28(l)(a) to (f); and

(b) within 24 hours thereafter, submit a written report to the Directorate in the prescribed form and manner of any matter as contemplated in paragraph (a).

Subsection 33(3) of the IPID Act provides the Directorate with the necessary assistance in fulfilling its constitutional mandate, as this subsection sets out the consequences in circumstances of non-compliance with the provisions of section 29. The said subsection reads as follows:

"Any police officer who fails to comply with section 29 is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to a fine or is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to a fine or to imprisonment for a period not exceeding two years."

For the first quarter of the 2012/13 financial year the IPID recorded 49 (forty nine) cases that were reported either late or not at all.

In terms of the provisions of section 33 of the Act, the IPID opened 38 cases against the members that failed to comply with the provisions of section

Reply to question no 1651 approved by the Minister

Reply received: August 2012

QUESTION NO 1650

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 15 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 18-2012)

Date reply submitted: 6 August 2012

1650. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

How many station commanders in each province completed the training modules on (a) community service centres, (b) crime prevention, (c) investigation and intelligence, (d) communication, (e) management and leadership and (f) planning operations?

NW1980E

REPLY:

The following table indicates the number of station commanders in each province that have completed the training modules on (a) community service centres, (b) crime prevention, (c) investigation and intelligence, (d) communication, (e) management and leadership and (f) planning operations:

PROVINCE

MODULE 1 [Community Service Centres]

MODULE 2 [Crime Prevention]

MODULE 3 [Investigation and Intelligence]

MODULE 4 [Communication]

MODULE 5 [Management and Leadership]

MODULE 6 [Planning Operations]

EASTERN CAPE

167

170

170

163

154

141

FREE STATE

90

83

79

84

92

67

GAUTENG

125

119

123

118

123

95

KWAZULU-NATAL

177

173

176

174

177

152

LIMPOPO

81

82

72

63

61

80

MPUMALANGA

76

77

69

57

65

64

NORTH WEST

72

71

75

71

72

70

NORTHERN CAPE

83

77

76

78

76

63

WESTERN CAPE

132

127

131

119

118

98

TOTAL

1003

979

971

927

938

830

Cognisance must be taken of the fact that this table represents the current station commanders who have completed the various modules of the Station Management Learning Programme.

Reply received: December 2012

QUESTION NO 1649

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: (INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 18-2012)

Date reply submitted: 13 December 2012

1649. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether any firearms are registered to municipalities; if not, why not; if so, in respect of each municipality (a) how many and (b) what types of firearms;

(2) Whether any municipalities have handed in any firearms to the SA Police Service for destruction; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, (a) which municipalities and (b) how many firearms;

(3) whether any municipalities have reported any firearms (a) stolen and/or (b) lost to the SAPS (i) in the (aa) 2009-10, (bb) 2010-11 and (cc) 2011-12 financial years and (ii) during the period 1 April 2012 up to the latest specified date for which information is available; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, (aaa) which municipalities, (bbb) how many and (ccc) what types of firearms;

(4) Whether the (a) SAPS and (b) municipalities have conducted any inspection audit on firearms; if not, why not; if so, (i) when and (ii) what were the findings?

NW1979E

REPLY:

The following firearms are registered to municipalities.

NORTHERN CAPE MUNICIPALITIES

Hand guns: 42

Shot Guns 15

GAUTENG MUNICIPALITIES

Hand Guns: 5624

Shot Guns: 1260

Riffles: 870

Hand Machine Guns: 27

NORTH WEST MUNICIPALITIES

Hand Guns: 380

Shot Guns: 38

Riffles: 45

LIMPOPO MUNICIPALITIES

Hand Guns: 372

Shot Guns: 22

Riffles: 29

KWAZULU NATAL MUNICIPALITIES

Hand Guns: 2124

Shot Guns: 270

Riffles: 113

MPUMALANGA MUNICIPALITIES

Hand Guns: 546

Shot Guns: 164

Riffles: 66

WESTERN CAPE MUNICIPALITIES

Hand Guns: 1967

Shot Guns: 229

Riffles: 27

EASTERN CAPE MUNICIPALITIES

Hand Guns: 407

Shot Guns: 437

Riffles: 27

FREE STATE MUNICIPALITIES

Hand Guns: 2214

Shot Guns: 44

Riffles: 5

The following municipalities have handed in firearms to the SAPS for destruction.

NORTH WEST: 19

Northern Cape: 37

Gauteng: 821

Mpumalanga: 1280

Free State: 2

Western Cape: 20

Eastern Cape: 13

The following municipalities have reported firearms stolen/ lost between the 2009 and the beginning of 2012

North West: 57

Limpopo: 11

Gauteng: 86

Northern Cape: 10

Free State: 7

Western Cape: 98

KwaZulu Natal: 148

No firearms have been reported stolen or lost during the reporting period 1 April 2012 up to date.

The South African Police Service and Municipalities have conducted compliance inspections and audits of Firearms in terms of the applicable legislation. Outstanding Municipalities in all provinces will be inspected and audited during the current financial year.

The dates of these inspections are listed below:

Western Cape - 26-08-09, 03-09-09, 08-09-09, 02-12-09, 22-11-11

Free State - 06-12-11, 07-12-11, 20-12-11.

Limpopo - 11-09-11, 15-03-12

Gauteng - 26-02-12, 15-04-12, 04-05-12

North West - 11-03-11, 12-07-11, 03-02-12

Mpumalanga - - 20-09-11, 09-03-12

Northern Cape - 16-02-12

Kwa-Zulu Natal - 11-03-12

Eastern Cape - 12-03-12, 12-07-12

While I am cautiously encouraged by the reduction in the number of lost firearms at municipalities since the beginning of 2012 there are still areas that need to be addressed. In particular, the amalgamation of municipalities without proper handing over of firearms and stock registers leads to constant changing of responsible persons and creates a gap in accountability and this matter is being discussed with the different Municipalities. I have also instructed SAPS to ensure that each of the cases of lost and stolen firearms at each Municipality are properly investigated and that the cases be referred to the NPA for prosecution.

I have also asked that specific attention be paid to processes in Western Cape and KwaZulu Natal and Gauteng, where the highest number of weapons have been lost or stolen. I have also instructed that the Western Cape and Free State municipalities which were last inspected in 2011 be inspected as a matter of urgency in 2013.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1633

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 15 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 18-2012)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2012

1633. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) What (a) budget was allocated to the Crime Intelligence Secret Services Account (SSA) for the 2011-12 financial year, (b) amount was spent in each quarter, (c) was the nature of expenditure in each quarter, (d) balance was left in the fund at the beginning of the fourth quarter, (e) amount was used to buy a fleet amounting to R35 million, (f)(aa) part of said amount formed part of the approved virement and (bb) is the name of the person who approved it and (g) are the further relevant details;

(2) whether prescribed budgetary measures were followed in spending the balance of the fourth quarter; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, who authorised the purchases;

(3) whether the items purchased in the fourth quarter are captured in the current asset register of the SAPS as assets transferred or distributed to other units outside SSA; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, what are the relevant details; and

(4) whether an investigation will be conducted into expenditure, particularly in the fourth quarter; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, what are the further relevant details?

NW1958E

REPLY:

The purpose of the Secret Services Account is to fund such activities as carried out by the intelligence function of the South African Police Service (SAPS).

The intelligence function of the SAPS is accountable to a Parliamentary Committee, known as the Joint Standing Committee on Intelligence (JSCI), pertaining to its intelligence and counter-intelligence functions, which include its administration, financial management and expenditure. This is in compliance with the Intelligence Services Oversight Act, Act 40 of 1994.

The question can unfortunately not be answered without exposing certain covert procedures and methodology utilized by the said intelligence function.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1632

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 15 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 18-2012)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2012

1632. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether senior management appointments at levels 13 to 16 were made according to the required Public Service regulations and Senior Management Handbook procedures; if not, why not; if so,

(2) what (a) the number of personnel have been (i) recruited and (ii) hired at each level since 2009 and (b) selection process was used;

(3) with reference to the names of the members appointed at each level, (a) what year were they appointed, (b) where were they posted and (c) how many were posted (i) nationally and (ii) provincially;

(4) whether the same personnel (a) are still in the specified positions or (b) have been moved; if so, (i) list the (aa) number of promotions, (bb) names of persons, (cc) years of service, (dd) reasons for promotion, (ee) locations of said personnel and (ff) number located in each province;

(5) whether the members of the employment selection panel or committee responsible for the appointments were vetted; if not, why not; if so, what are their (a) names and (b) credentials?

NW1957E

REPLY:

(1) No. The Senior Management Appointments at levels 13 to 16 in the South African Police Service are conducted in terms of the South African Police Service Employment Regulations, 2008 and in terms of the relevant National Instructions, namely National Instruction 2/2010 – Appointments to posts on salary levels 13 to 15 and National Instruction 3/2005 – Assessment Centre Salary levels 13 to 15.

(2)(a)(i)(ii) The following number of senior management personnel have been recruited, appointed since 2009:

LEVEL

2009/2010

2010/2011

2011/2012

Level 16

1

1

0

Level15

5

9

5

Level 14

33

29

52

Level 13

52

63

112

2(b) The selection process was conducted in terms of the prescripts of the South African Police Service Employment Regulations, 2008, National Instruction 2/2010 – Appointments to posts on salary levels 13 to 15 and National Instruction 3/2005 – Assessment Centre Salary levels 13 to 15.

(3) and (4) The information requested is not readily available and it will be a labour intensive process to obtain such information. In some instances personnel have been moved due to operational needs of the organization and will therefore not be in the post they were initially appointed in.

(5) No. It is not in terms of the National Instruction on Senior Appointments a requirement that members of selection panels or committees responsible for appointments should be vetted.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1603

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 8 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17-2012)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2012

1603. Mr S Esau (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether any traffic fines were incurred with regard to any of his official vehicles in the (a) 2009-10, (b) 2010-11 and (c) 2011-12 financial years; if so, what (i) amount in fines was incurred in respect of each specified vehicle in each specified financial year and (ii) are the further relevant details in each case?

NW1932E

REPLY:

The Minister and Deputy Minister of Police are driven at any given time by the South African Police service VIP protector officials and the VIP protection members take full responsibility for the management of such vehicles while in their use.

VIP protection members are trained in accordance with the internationally recognized VIP protection doctrine and standards, within their training curriculum there is what is referred to as offensive and defensive driving techniques.

VIP vehicles are equipped with sirens and blue lights and are classified in terms of the Road traffic ordinance and Road traffic Act as emergency vehicles. Any traffic fines are therefore dealt with joint by the SAPS and the respective traffic department. According to SAPS working procedures any traffic fines incurred in the performance of duty are dealt with by the SAPS and respective traffic department whereby on duty statements must be taken and supporting documents are submitted for the rescinding of traffic fines. .Exceeding the speed limit is therefore recognized by the law.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1603

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 8 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17-2012)

Date reply submitted: 30 July 2012

1603. Mr S Esau (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether any traffic fines were incurred with regard to any of his official vehicles in the (a) 2009-10, (b) 2010-11 and (c) 2011-12 financial years; if so, what (i) amount in fines was incurred in respect of each specified vehicle in each specified financial year and (ii) are the further relevant details in each case?

NW1932E

REPLY:

The Minister and Deputy Minister of Police are driven at any given time by the South African Police service VIP protector officials and the VIP protection members take full responsibility for the management of such vehicles while in their use.

VIP protection members are trained in accordance with the internationally recognized VIP protection doctrine and standards, within their training curriculum there is what is referred to as offensive and defensive driving techniques.

VIP vehicles are equipped with sirens and blue lights and are classified in terms of the Road traffic ordinance and Road traffic Act as emergency vehicles. Any traffic fines are therefore dealt with joint by the SAPS and the respective traffic department. According to SAPS working procedures any traffic fines incurred in the performance of duty are dealt with by the SAPS and respective traffic department whereby on duty statements must be taken and supporting documents are submitted for the rescinding of traffic fines. .Exceeding the speed limit is therefore recognized by the law.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1583

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 8 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17-2012)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2012

1583. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether he has been informed of (a) the brutality meted out to certain persons (names furnished) at a certain police station (name furnished) and (b) the alleged abuse of power by members of this police station; if so, what steps has he taken in this regard;

(2) whether he has been informed that members of this police station allegedly continued to threaten and intimidate the said person at the home and demanded that the case be withdrawn against the members of this police station; if so, what are the relevant details;

(3) whether the three murders which allegedly occurred in the holding cells of the police station have been resolved; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1911E

REPLY:

Yes I have been informed about all these matters and have received a report from SAPS on all of them. However, I have asked the Independent Police Investigative Directorate to conduct their own investigations into each case (as these matters fall directly within their mandate). I have instructed the IPID to provide me with a progress report within two weeks.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1582

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 8 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17-2012)

Date reply submitted: 30 July 2012

1582. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the SA Police Service (SAPS) has taken any action against certain police personnel (details furnished) who were allegedly involved in human rights abuses (details furnished); if not, why not; if so, (a) how many police members are involved in this unit, (b) how many were identified as being part of the abuse of power and (c) what were the outcomes of the internal disciplinary action in each case;

(2) whether any of the members involved in the unit are known to have been moved or promoted to any other offices or departments with higher responsibilities; if so, what are the relevant details;

(3) whether the SAPS has opened any criminal cases in response to the actions of the unit's members; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1910E

REPLY:

(1) Yes, a disciplinary investigation was conducted.

(1)(a) 10 police officers.

(1)(b) 10 police officers.

(1)(c) The disciplinary investigation has been conducted and a formal disciplinary enquiry will follow suit.

(2) No. The members have been relocated from Cato Manor to Durban Organised Crime.

(3) No. The Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) is investigating the matter.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1549

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 8 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17-2012)

Date reply submitted: 30 July 2012

1549. Mr J R B Lorimer (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the SA Police Service (SAPS) is currently investigating any instances related to illegal mining; if not, why not; if so, (a) how many and (b) where;

(2) whether the SAPS has implemented a programme to combat illegal mining; if not, why not; if so, what (a) resources have been committed to the programme and (b) are the further relevant details;

(3) whether the SAPS has communicated with the Departments of (a) Mineral Resources and (b) Justice and Constitutional Development in order to identify programmes for combating illegal mining; if not, why not, in each case; if so, what are the relevant details in each case;

(4) whether he has found that organised crime syndicates are involved in illegal mining; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, how was this conclusion reached;

(5) whether he has been informed of any successes that have been achieved in bringing such syndicates to justice; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1869E

REPLY:

(1) Yes.

(a) One hundred and twenty nine cases (129)

(b) North West Province, Mpumalanga Province, Gauteng, Free State and

Northern Cape

(2) Yes.

(a) Specific members are assigned to investigate these cases to ensure continuity and specialization.

(b) Monthly Precious Metals Forum meetings are held with all relevant stake holders.

(3) (a) Yes.

(b) Yes. Multi-agency National Coordination and Strategic Management Team (NCSMT) was established in 2010.

(4) Yes, through project driven investigations.

(5) These are some of the successes achieved:

(i) Three accused persons in the North West received a 15 years, 10 years and 7 years sentence respectively for racketeering, acquisition and possession or use of proceeds of unlawful activities;

(ii) One hundred and sixty two (162) accused - sentenced to twelve (12)

months imprisonment suspended for four years;

(iii) Five (5) accused - sentenced to eight (8) months direct imprisonment.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1546

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 8 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17-2012)

Date reply submitted: 30 July 2012

1546. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether he has been informed of three plain clothes police officers in a SA Police Service (SAPS) vehicle which was observed 15 km inside Mozambique (details furnished); if so, (a) why were they in Mozambique, (b) how long did they stay in Mozambique, (c) where did they stay and (d) what was the cost of the trip; if not,

(2) whether he will investigate the matter; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1866E

REPLY:

(1)(a) The vehicle observed, with registration number BSH 758 B, is used by members of the SAPS who are deployed to assist members of the Mozambique Police, to identify stolen and hijacked vehicles smuggled from South Africa into Mozambique.

(1)(b) The SAPS members are based at a vehicle check point at the town of Salamanga, Mozambique, since the operation was initiated in December 2001, as per agreement with the Mozambique authorities.

(1)(c) The members are based with the Mozambique Police, Mozambique Traffic Police, and the Gaurda Frontera at Salamaga.

(1)(d) The cost of the deployment is on average R 145 000-00 per month (this was the cost for the monthly deployment for all officers and includes the three officers sighted in the question as well as other officers deployed before 31 May 2012).

(2) No, due to the fact that that the abovementioned agreement ended on 31 May 2012, and the fact that three SAPS members remained behind in Salamanga to secure SAPS property and equipment which will be withdrawn and returned to South Africa by 15 June 2012.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1533

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 8 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17-2012)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2012

1533. Mrs H Lamoela (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(a) What is the (i) status and (ii) relevant details of the police investigation in the (aa) Yeoville CAS 113/12/1999, (bb) KwaThema CAS 406/10/2005, (cc) KwaThema CAS 93/06/2008, (dd) KwaThema CAS 397/07/2010, (e) KwaThema CAS 186/07/2010 and (ff) KwaThema CAS 630/07/2011 cases and (b) when does he anticipate that each case will be finalised?

NW1853E

REPLY:

(a) (aa) Yeoville CAS 113/12/1999 (assault with the intent to do grievous bodily harm)

(a) (i) The case was closed as withdrawn and filed on 2001-10-26.

(ii) The police investigation was completed and the case docket was presented to the public prosecutor, who declined to prosecute.

(b) The case was concluded, and the case docket was filed on 2001-10-26.

(a) (bb) KwaThema CAS 406/10/2005 (reckless or negligent driving of a motor vehicle)

(a) (i) The case is still under investigation.

(ii) A witness must still be traced in order to obtain a statement, and a further statement must be obtained from the complainant.

(b) The case docket will be presented to the public prosecutor for a decision on prosecution as soon as the outstanding statements have been obtained.

(a) (cc) KwaThema CAS 93/06/2008 (theft)

(a) (i) The case is still under investigation.

(ii) A further statement must still be obtained from a witness. The investigating officer is experiencing difficulty in tracing the witness.

(b) The investigation will be concluded as soon as the witness's statement has been obtained.

(a) (dd) KwaThema CAS 397/07/2010 (crimen injuria)

(a) (i) The case is still under investigation.

(ii) A witness statement must still be obtained.

(b) The investigation will be concluded as soon as the witness's statement has been obtained.

(a) (ee) KwaThema CAS 186/07/2010 (housebreaking with the intent to steal and theft)

(a) (i) The case docket was closed as "undetected – fingerprints available" and was filed on 2010-07-16.

(ii) The investigation was completed.

(b) The case was concluded, but will be reopened once a suspect can be linked with the fingerprints found at the crime scene.

(a) (ff) KwaThema CAS 630/07/2011 (theft)

(a) (i) The case is still under investigation.

(ii) Statements must still be obtained from two witnesses.

(b) The case docket will be presented to the public prosecutor for a decision on prosecution as soon as the outstanding statements have been obtained.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1511

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 8 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17-2012)

Date reply submitted: 26 July 2012

1511. Ms A van Wyk (ANC) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) (a) What is the current number of (i) funded posts for Legal Officials (Legal Services) in the SA Police Service (SAPS) and (ii) vacancies in these offices and (b) where are the vacancies primarily;

(2) (a) what progress has been made to implement the decision that was taken in December 2010 that the SAPS Legal Services will no longer be a division and (b) how many (i) staff members are required per division and (ii) positions are (aa) filled and (bb) vacant in each division;

(3) whether the SAPS has implemented the occupation specific dispensation for legal officials in the employ of the State; if so, what are the relevant details; if not,

(4) whether the SAPS is opposing its implementation in the Labour Court; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, (a) what are the relevant details in respect of legal support to the respective operational and support divisions and (b) what are the further relevant details?

NW1792E

REPLY:

(1)(a)(i) Number of funded posts for Legal Officials (Legal Services) in the SA

Police Service (SAPS), that is; both Head Office (Office of the Executive Legal Officer) and provinces is 284.

(a)(ii) Current number of vacancies in these offices is 59

(b) Vacancies are in both Head Office (Office of the Executive Legal Officer) and Provinces as follows:

Head Office (Office of the Executive Legal Officer) 7

Provinces: 52

At the present moment all Divisions are serviced from the office of the Executive Legal Officer. The various components in that office are structured in such a way that the operational needs of Divisions are still met. Consultation is taking place with Divisions to develop an appropriate service delivery model taking into account the organisational need to prioritise the filling of vacancies. Provinces have also prioritized their needs. This results from the current process of downsizing the establishment. The structure in the Divisions will require posts beyond the 7 vacancies currently in existence in the office of the Executive Legal Officer. Taking the totality of current figures into account, the new structure will need 7 brigadiers and two colonels for each brigadier. A totality of 21 legal officers.

(2)(a) The structure of the office of the Executive Legal Officer was approved in December 2010.

A Major General and Brigadier were appointed in Litigation and Administration. A Major General was appointed in the Resource Management environment and the filling of the Brigadier's post is in the process of being finalised. In terms of the new structure the DPCI is vacant pending the finalization of the DPCI structure.

A functional purification process has been finalized to include the following: Phased in implementation of the transfer of legislation functions from the Component: Legal Support: Crime Operations to the Legislation Component. The incorporation of Civil Claims Administration to Litigation and Administration Component is being finalised. A Legal Advocacy and Development component has been established.

(b)(i) Provisionally 3 staff members are required per division, namely a brigadier and two colonels. A totality of 21 legal officers.

(b)(ii)(aa) Currently, services are rendered by the Office of the Executive Legal Officer, as explained above.

(b)(ii)(bb) There are currently seven (7) vacant posts in Head Office (The Office of the Executive Legal Officer) these are brigadier's posts.

(3) SAPS has not implemented the Occupation Specific Dispensation (OSD).The Minister of Police had initially approved the implementation of the OSD, but this decision was later reversed. Members already benefitted from a unique Broad Band Salary System designed specifically for the SAPS. A group of legal officers declared a dispute in the Safety and Security Sectoral Bargaining Council (SSSBC). The arbitrator ruled that the OSD for legal officials must be negotiated in the SSSBC.

(4) Yes, the SA Police Service has filed a review application in the Labour Court to have the said SSSBC award reviewed. The matter is currently sub judice and a court date is being awaited.

(4)(a) Currently legal support is being rendered to all divisions in the operational and support divisions through the office of the Executive Legal Officer.

(4)(b) Legal officials have been assigned specific tasks relating to specific divisions in the operational and support environment to ensure service delivery in respect of legal support.

The National Commissioner of Police is currently reviewing the structuring of the SAPS, with particular emphasis on the role and functions of the Head Office. Going forward this may well affect the structuring of SAPS legal services.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1468

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 1 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 15-2012)

Date reply submitted: 30 July 2012

1468. Mr N D du Toit (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

When was the current Acting National Commissioner of the SA Police Service appointed?

NW1745E

REPLY:

Lieutenant General NS Mkhwanazi was appointed as the acting National Commissioner on 24 October 2011.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1437

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 1 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 15-2012)

Date reply submitted: 30 July 2012

1437. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Who (a) took the decision and (b) issued the directive to terminate the disciplinary proceedings against and reinstate a certain person (name furnished) earlier this year before his re-suspension on 26 May 2012?

NW1713E

REPLY:

The matter of Discipline of members of SAPS is the responsibility and function of SAPS Management as provided in the South African Police Services Disciplinary Regulations 2006.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1429

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 1 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 15-2012)

Date reply submitted: 30 July 2012

1429. Mr P van Dalen (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the SA Police Service (SAPS) has a policy of providing official transport to members to commute between their places of residence and where they are stationed; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details of this policy;

(2) whether these SAPS members have structured packages that include subsidised vehicles; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details;

(3) whether the SAPS accounts for the costs incurred for the transport of members; if not, why not; if so, how much has been spent in each of the past three financial years for which information is available?

NW1705E

REPLY:

(1) Yes.

Chapter 9, paragraph 63 of National Instruction 4 of 2011: State vehicles, determines the following:

Transport between residence and place of work

(i) Although it is the responsibility of every employee to provide his or her own transport between his or her residence and place of work, the Service may provide transport under exceptional circumstances between the residence and place of work of an employee.

(ii) If exceptional circumstances exist, such transport may be approved by a Provincial Commissioner or Divisional Commissioner: Provided that -

(a) an employee who believes that exceptional circumstances exists, submits a fully motivated application for transportation between his or her residence and place of work to the relevant Provincial Commissioner or Divisional Commissioner;

(b) he or she has considered the recommendation by the employee's commander, the relevant Vehicle Fleet Manager, the relevant accounting functionary of the accounting unit and the relevant Station commander or relevant Component Head at a Head Office Division; and

(c) the transport is provided against the payment of the prescribed tariffs.

(iii) When considering whether exceptional circumstances exist, the above- mentioned functionaries must consider the following:

(a) Whether public transport (e.g. busses, trains or taxis) is available in the relevant area;

(b) whether there is a threat for the safety of employees when making use of public transport;

(c) whether taxi owners or drivers refuse to transport employees of the Service; and

(d) whether public transport is available at such a reasonable time so as to ensure that an employee is able to report for duty on time(bearing in mind that operational duties may start at unusual times).

(iv) The applicant must sign an indemnity (Z 164) form to acknowledge that he or she is aware that the state is indemnified against any liability that may arise from the use of a state vehicle for transport between his or her residence and place of work.

(v) The relevant Provincial Commissioner or Divisional Commissioner must clearly indicate the period for which transport between the employee's residence and place of work has been approved. All applications that were approved during a financial year by the relevant Provincial Commissioner and Divisional Commissioner must be reviewed at least once a year, to ensure that the exceptional circumstances still exist.

(vi) The relevant Provincial Commissioner and Divisional Commissioner must ensure that a Daily Advice of Change (SAPS 172(a)) form is completed for each employee in respect of whom transport between his or her residence and place of work have been approved and forwarded to:-

(a) the relevant Financial Services to ensure that the prescribed uniform monthly tariff(currently R69.00) is deducted from the salary of the employee; and

(b) the relevant Provincial Vehicle Fleet Manager or the Vehicle Fleet Manager of the Division concerned.

(vii) If the authorization of an employee to use a state vehicle for transport between his or her residence and place of work has been cancelled, the relevant Provincial Commissioner and Divisional Commissioner must ensure that the deduction from his or her salary in respect of the prescribed tariff is cancelled.

(viii) Returns as per Annexure L of all approvals for transport between residence and place of work by the relevant Provincial or Divisional Commissioner must be submitted monthly to the Divisional Commissioner: Supply Chain Management."

(2) Employees on MMS (Salary Level 12) and SMS (Salary Level 13 and above) who are permanently appointed receive an inclusive remuneration package which consists of a basic salary, the State'scontribution to the pensionfund and a flexible portion. MMS and SMS members are then allowed in terms of the rules of the scheme to structure their flexible portion in terms of the following:

(i) Motor vehicle allowance

(ii) 13th Cheque.

(3)Expenses incurred in transporting members is part of the normal operating expenses associated with the running costs of the vehicle fleet of the department accounted for in total.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1422

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 1 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 15-2012)

Date reply submitted: 30 July 2012

1422. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the SA Police Service (SAPS) took any action against protesting students of the Khayelitsha campus of the False Bay College on 15 and 16 May 2012 (details furnished); if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details;

(2) whether the SAPS received a request from the college management to keep the students off the grounds; if so,

(3) whether the SAPS acted on the request; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1695E

REPLY:

(1) No. No arrests were made, as no suspects could be identified. The CEO was advised to register a criminal case in respect of the damage to property for investigation by the South African Police Service.

(2) No.

(3) Not applicable.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1416

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 1 JUNE 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 15-2012)

Date reply submitted: 26 July 2012

1416. Mr T W Coetzee (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) With regard to the areas of (a) Sasolburg, (b) Vaalpark en (c) Zamdela in the Metsimaholo Local Municipality, in respect of each area, (i) what is the optimal prescribed number of police vehicles that should be available to serve these areas and (ii) how many (aa) vehicles are actually available in these areas, (bb) of the available vehicles are currently operational and (cc) of the available vehicles are currently (aaa) operational and (bbb) broken down;

(2) in respect of each of these areas, what is the (a) optimal and (b) actual number of police vehicles in relation to the (i) size of the population, (ii) area it covers and (iii) crime rates?

NW1685E

REPLY:

(1)(a) Sasolburg:

(i) According to the prescribed criteria 24 vehicles are needed to serve this area.

(ii) How many:

(aa) The actual vehicle strength is 32;

(bb) 32 vehicles are currently listed for operational use;

(cc) Of the available vehicles:

(aaa) 18 are currently operational; and

(bbb) 14 broken down.

(b) Vaalpark:

Vaalpark is a small suburb within the vicinity of Sasolburg and is served by the Sasolburg police station.

(c) Zamdela:

(i) According to the prescribed criteria 33 vehicles are needed to serve this area.

(ii) How many:

(aa) The actual vehicle strength is 27;

(bb) 27 vehicles allocated for operational use;

(cc) Of the available vehicles:

(aaa) 23 are currently operational; and

(bbb) 4 broken down.

(2) SAPS vehicles are currently issued according to the prescribed SAPS allocation criteria, which is based on the available vehicles versus the personnel strength and not on the size of the population in a specific area or the area that it covers. Crime rates, amongst others, are taken into consideration when resources are being determined according to the Resource Allocation Guide established by Organizational Development. Vehicles are then issued in accordance with the issuing criteria.

The National Commissioner of Police is currently engaged in processes to address resource management in SAPS. As part of this process the National Commissioner is addressing more effective fleet management.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1269

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 18 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 13-2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 July 2012

1269. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) has established a deadline to conclude a memorandum of understanding with the State Security Agency regarding the security screening of its members; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details;

(2) whether the SA Police Service has made any provision for the replacement of professional personnel in the case where they are found to be ineligible or unsuitable; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1468E

REPLY:

(1) No, there is currently no fixed or agreed deadline between the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) and the State Security Agency to conclude a memorandum of understanding for the security screening of IPID's members. However, there are discussions between the two Departments on this matter. The IPID intends to finalise the matter during the current financial year.

.

(2) Yes, the South African Police Service Employment Regulations, 2008, provides for a system for the management of performance and development of employees and for the managing of unsatisfactory performance, in which case a process to have the employee discharged may be initiated. The South African Police Service Employment Regulations, 2008, further provides for the filling of posts which become vacant in the Service, which posts may inter alia be filled through an advertisement and selection process.