Ethiopia / Eritrea Conflict: Department briefing
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FOREIGN AFFAIRS PORTFOLIO COMMITTEE
13 September 2006
ETHIOPIA / ERITREA CONFLICT: DEPARTMENT BRIEFING
Chairperson: Mr D Sithole (ANC)
Documents handed out:
Presentation on
the Ethiopia/Eritrea Border Dispute
SUMMARY
Ambassador Kingsley Makubela presented a short briefing on the border
dispute between Ethiopia and Eritrea.
He outlined the history of the conflict, recent developments, attempts
to create a peaceful settlement and the proposed implementation of
sanctions.
The Committee requested more detailed information on the origins of the
conflict in order for Parliament to better understand the situation and
requested another presentation. The
Chair expressed concern that a senior Foreign Affairs official had delivered an
unsatisfactory briefing and requested the presence of the Foreign Affairs
Director-General at the future briefing.
MINUTES
Chairperson’s opening
The Chairperson opened the meeting by outlining the situation in Ethiopia and
Eritrea and the fact that it was a situation that had swung between resolution
and conflict for many years and was an area of concern internationally. He
introduced Ambassador Kingsley Makubela of the Department of Foreign Affairs’
Chief Directorate for East Africa.
Briefing by Ambassador Makubela
Ambassador Makubela began his presentation with a brief breakdown of the
history of the area and the conflict. He traced the origins of the conflict up
to the present attempts at peace agreements and the recent developments within
the area. Ambassador Makubela noted
that the conflict was no longer confined to Ethiopia and Eritrea but had spread
into surrounding countries. Somalia was one such country.
The issue in Eritrea and Ethiopia was simply a border dispute, particularly the
town of Badme that effectively would find itself divided between the two
countries if the border was set as suggested.
Many attempts at the resolution of this issue have been made. One in
particular was the Algiers Agreement in 2000 which set up the Ethiopia- Eritrea
Boundary Commission (EEBC) which in 2002 allotted Badme to Eritrea. This was
obviously an unsatisfactory decision for Ethiopia.
Ambassador Makubela directed the Members’ attention to the provided facts and
figures for the two countries, urging them to examine them for a better
understanding of the situation in the region.
Discussion
The Chair requested clarity about the role played by the European Union
(EU) in the dispute. The Chair queried
whether the presence of the EU had contributed to the situation and whether
they had unwittingly taken sides in the border dispute.
Ambassador Makubela elaborated slightly on the role of EU involvement,
mentioning their participation in the interventions and implementation of US
Aid. Furthermore he noted that only
limited tension had been directed towards the EU and therefore they cannot be
considered as exacerbating the situation.
Mr D Gibson (DA) questioned the number of deaths in the region as the
presentation had noted two different numbers. He asked whether these were
estimates and whether any factual numbers were available. Secondly he questioned if Eritrea had
expelled the peacekeepers, as the presentation claimed they were calling for
further peacekeeping operations and increased forces in the area. Mr Gibson
clearly noted that this was a contradiction and asked for clarity. He also
highlighted a factual mistake in the presentation as gold was mentioned as an agricultural
product.
Ambassador Makubela did not provide an answer about the reliability of the
statistics and facts relating to the number of deaths as presented in his
report.
Adv Z Madasa (ANC) submitted that it appears that Eritrea had a good case in
the border dispute; however he queried why the conflict continued. He asked
about the role of the African Union (AU) in the conflict, and the impact the
conflict has had on Sudan and Somalia. In light of this impact, he asserted
that it appears that the AU is seemingly immobilised and questioned why this
was so.
Ambassador Makubela agreed that Eritrea had a good case, particularly
considering its undertaking to abide by any agreement in contrast to Ethiopia.
The AU was not immobilised as it had sent peacekeepers to Somalia.
Mr M Ramgobin (ANC) asked for more information about the causes of the conflict
and questioned the role of religion in the conflict. He further questioned the
high military expenditure, particularly on the part of Ethiopia. Considering
the nature of the Ethiopian economy, Mr Ramgobin questioned where the money for
the military equipment was coming from, and who the investors in Ethiopia were.
He asked who benefited from the conflict suggested that perhaps it was a
‘remote control war’. He questioned the role of the African Union in the
conflict and whether the system of peer review was used in the region. If this
had not been done he felt it would weaken the African Union throughout the
continent.
Ambassador Makubela spelt out that it was not a religious conflict, or a
conflict that had any religious influences; it was simply a border
dispute. The dispute arose out of the
fall of Mogadishu during which time the town of Badme was promised to Eritrea;
however no factual evidence exists to substantiate this claim from
Eritrea. As for the system of peer
review, Ambassador Makubela submitted that this system was in place and that
the AU had sent soldiers to Somalia.
Dr A Luthuli (ANC) submitted that the conflict would continue as long as there
is continued lack of respect for state sovereignty and independence.
Mr L Kalako (ANC) queried the AU stance on the border issue. He questioned whether they were going to
adopt the policy that they would respect pre-existing borders as they found them.
However he highlighted that this was problematic as it could lead to policy on
a continental level which would result in the redrawing of boundaries all over
Africa due to colonial occupation.
Adv Madasa asked about the expulsion of the United Nations (UN) observers and
the rumored expulsion of a South African citizen.
Ambassador Makubela stated that he did not know of any South African who had
been expelled by Eritrea.
Ms D Motubatse-Hounkpatin (ANC) corrected Ambassador Makubela saying that a
South African had been expelled, a Mr Themba.
The Chair felt the Committee should follow up this issue.
The Chair questioned the role of South Africa in the conflict. He noted that South Africa had substantial
investments in both countries. Furthermore, he noted the presence of many
students and displaced persons from Ethiopia and Eritrea in SA. It was SA’s
political and moral duty to assist those displaced individuals and try to
resolve the conflict. South African must continue to help the United Nations in
their peacekeeping efforts and use its bilateral communications to resolve the
conflict. He also queried the stance of the AU on the border dispute.
Ambassador Makubela noted the difficult situation considering the large
populations that are involved. It would be beneficial for all concerned if a
sustainable peace accord could be signed, but this would require political
leadership from both countries.
Mr Ramgobin requested more details on the origins of the conflict, in
particular the role of the fall of Mohammed Said Barre and the loss of part of
Ogaden.
Ambassador Makubela stated that a ‘piece meal’ breakdown would not do the
origins of the conflict justice and submitted that an entire presentation could
be dedicated to the origins of the conflict.
The Chair agreed with this and suggested that a full presentation on the
origins of the conflict be made in the fourth term of the parliamentary year.
Ms Motubatse-Hounkpatin suggested that the Committee would be interested in an
idea of the post conflict situation. It
would also be interesting to understand the development, the implementation of
programmes particularly by the New Partnership for Africa’s Development
(NEPAD), the peace issues and the impact these programmes and operations would
have on the area’s inhabitants.
The Chair asserted that the Committee would be interested in who was involved
with Eritrea and Ethiopia and the extent to which the South African government
is interacting with the two countries.
Ambassador Makubela submitted that South Africa is interested in finding a
sustainable solution; however they were not operating at a level were bilateral
communication can help. He noted that
these are political questions and said that he was unable to answer them.
The Chair suggested that perhaps the way forward for South Africa was to
include Ethiopia in the discussions. He
submitted that it was important to create ways of including the two governments
and engage their political leadership.
Ambassador Makubela noted that a structural framework was indeed needed;
however there was a need for care in the communications as any use of bilateral
communications to express South Africa’s concern could result in increased
tension. A ‘parallel framework’ must not evolve in an attempt to express SA’s
opinions. He stressed that South Africa would continue to urge the two
countries to find a solution.
The Chair repeated his earlier point about the displaced students and persons
from the area that are in SA. Therefore for South Africa not to raise this
problem would result in a social problem, as South Africa have a responsibility
to these people. He further expressed
concern that bilateral communication were not used to voice SA concerns and
strongly criticised the stance that such expression of concerns would harm
South African business ventures in the region. He called for a ‘sharp’ increase
in the expression of discontent by South Africa.
Ambassador Makubela queried use of the word ‘sharp’ with respect to bilateral
relations. He asserted that South Africa were concerned with economic impact
and good governance and these were their priorities.
The Chair again raised the issue of ‘bilateral engagement’ in the resolution of
the conflict.
Ambassador Makubela attempted to set the record straight by clearly outlining
the conflict’s origins and asserting that South Africa did not have a forum to
discuss the dispute and monitor the progress of the discussions. SA continuously encouraged the countries to
do something despite the complexity of the situation.
The Chair stated the need for a report to be drafted and submitted to
Parliament and called for volunteers to draft such a report. It was suggested that the secretary should
write such a report and the Committee agreed.
Ms S Rwexana (ANC) stated the need for more information on the topic before the
submission of such a report to Parliament.
Mr M Ramgobin noted that the unanswered questions were political questions and
that the Director General: Foreign Affairs should address them. He further asserted that Ambassador Makubela
should not mistake the Committee’s enthusiasm as a slight to him, but it was
important for the Ministry to give an adequate briefing.
The Chair concluded that no senior official would be treated with ‘kid gloves’
and that Ambassador Makubela was aware of this. The Committee needed more information to deal with the issue.
This information could be obtained from the Department of Foreign Affairs. He
commented that the Committee would not show sympathy when a senior official failed
to provide adequate information to the Committee. The Committee however
understood the position of ‘this one is beyond my scope.’ The importance of the
presence of the Director General was highlighted.
The meeting was adjourned.
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