Annual Request for Public Submissions: planning
Joint Constitutional Review Committee
15 April 2003
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CONSTITUTIONAL REVIEW COMMITTEE
14 April 2003
ANNUAL REQUEST FOR PUBLIC SUBMISSIONS: PLANNING
Chairperson:
Documents handed out:
Advert calling for Public Submissions in 2002 (Appendix 1)
Programme of the Review Committee for the Year 2003 (Appendix 2)
Joint Constitutional Review Committee Brief (Appendix 3)
SUMMARY
The Committee made preparations for a public notice calling for constitutional submissions from public members. In terms of Section 45(1)(c) of the Constitution and Rule 102 of the Parliament Joint Rules, Parliament is required to review the Constitution annually to ensure that it continues to protect the rights and freedoms of citizens and uphold the democratic government institutions.
MINUTES
The Chair noted that the advert used in 2002 needs to be rewritten since it is vague and ambiguous and does not state clearly what is required from the public nor does it provide a due date for submissions. The Committee should bear in mind that most South Africans have no access to newspapers and therefore the need to use other forms of media becomes imperative.
Ms S Rajbally (MF) asked whether radio stations had been used before for this purpose.
The Chair responded that as far as he knows such has never happened.
Mr P Smith (IFP) commented that the provision itself should be amended in the Constitution.
The Chair said that what Mr Smith is proposing is not relevant at the moment since the notice to be formulated would be inviting people to make their submission on the constitutional clauses they think should be considered for amendment. Therefore Mr Smith, just like any public member, could make a submission and propose the said amendment.
Mr C Ackermann (NNP) commented that the annual exercise is boring and is a waste of time since the Committee has been doing it for the last five years and only received a few submissions proposing an amendment to specific clauses in the Constitution.
Mr J Jeffrey (ANC) acknowledged the concern, he then said that the Committee should look at the matter and thereafter recommend to the Rules Committee whether it feels that the constitutional review process should be done annually or what. The Committee should design an advert, which would be accurate and user friendly and thus encourage the public to make those submissions. He proposed that the Committee should also ask the assistance of monitoring groups, especially those present in the meeting, in formulating this advert.
Ms M Smuts (DP) noted that the notice should make it clear that the submissions required must be genuine constitutional amendments proposing an amendment of a specific clause(s) of the Constitution and therefore the wording should be blunt and precise. She said she would be very disappointed if the response proposing a genuine review of the constitutional clauses would be as poor as had been the case before.
The Chair said that the notice would definitely tell the public what is expected of them other than telling them what is not expected. He thereafter called PMG, IDASA and the Parliamentary researcher to assist in the formulation of the notice.
The meeting was adjourned.
Appendix 1
Text of 2002 Advert requesting public submissions
Parliament requires that the Constitution be reviewed annually to ensure that it affords adequate protection to our democratic institution and the right of South African citizens
Members of the public are therefore invited to study the constitution and then to make submission to the Constitutional Review Committee regarding matters which, in their opinion, should be reviewed by the Committee, such as among others, the Bill of Rights, accountability of public representatives, separation of power, etc.
Copies of the Constitution may be obtained from the region office of the Department of Justice and Constitutional Affairs, the Government Communication and Information Service(GCIS), and from any of their Multi-purpose Community Centers.
Enquiries, as well as written submissions, may be addressed to: Ms V van Huyssteen, Committees Section, P Box 15, Cape Town 8000, Tel: ( 021) 403 3774, Fax ( 021) 403 2880, email : [email protected]
Issued by the Joint Constitutional Review Committee
Appendix 2:
PROGRAMME OF THE JOINT CONSTITUTIONAL REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR THE YEAR 2003
CHAIRPERSON: ADV SP HOLOMISA
1. PURPOSE AND OBJECTIVES
Mission:
To ensure that the Committee invites the public to submit to it, within 30 days written representations on any constitutional matter. This should be done before the first day of May.
To ensure that all representations submitted to the committee are given necessary consideration so as to provide the National Assembly and National Council of Provinces with an informed recommendation, and intends to do this in the most efficient and effective manner and within the timeframe.
Vision:
To conduct a review of the Constitution annually and to report to the National Assembly and the National Council of Provinces.
2.LEGISLATIVE WORK
The Committee does not deal with the passing of legislation.
3.WRITTEN INSTRUMENTS REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
N/A
4.OVERSIGHT
N/A
5.BRIEFINGS
Briefings with the Department of Justice and Constitutional Development as well as with the Department of Provincial and Local Government.
6. COMMITTEE MEETINGS
28 /Jan/03 |
Sub Committee |
Consideration of the 2002 Sub Committee Report |
05 Feb/03 |
CRC |
Consideration of Committee's Annual programme |
19 Feb / 03 |
Sub Committee |
Planning session |
07 March/ 03 |
CRC |
Briefings by various commissions and relevant state departments on Constitutional literacy Campaign |
28 March/03 |
CRC |
Briefing by the Minister of Arts, Culture and technology |
14 April 2003 |
Sub Committee |
Notices to the public inviting public |
7.PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
The Committee will invite the public to submit any representations on any constitutional matter that needs to be reviewed as well as other bodies, which the Committee may identify for purpose of its work.
8. TRIPS/TOURS TO BE UNDERTAKEN
Study tours will determined in the course of the year.
Appendix 3
JOINT CONSTITUTIONAL REVIEW COMMITTEE BRIEF
1 PURPOSE
The Committee's function, in terms of Joint Rule 102, is to review the Constitution annually and report to the National Assembly and the National Council of Provinces.
In performing this function the Committee has to invite the public to make written Submissions, on any constitutional matter. It has to identify those constitutional matters that it intends to review and make a recommendation to adopt or reject the proposed amendments.
However it is not clear, how the Joint Constitutional Review Committee has to process such amendments. The current practice is that the Committee would scrutinize the proposed amendments and decide whether to reject or accept the proposed amendment. It is not clear whether the Committee should process acceptable constitutional amendments by itself or if it should refer the matter to the Portfolio Committee on Justice and Constitutional Development.
The manner in which the Committee has to handle its reponses is, also, problematic. It is not clear in what way the Committee should respond to the submissions and if it has to spell out its responses and give reasons for the responses.
If parties have different opinions on a particular submission, then it becomes a problem for the Committee, whether it should highlight those differences and give reasons for those different opinions or not.
Most of the work regarding the Constitution is done in the Portfolio Committee on
Justice and Constitutional Review, thus it becomes unclear what the purpose of the
Joint Constitutional Review Committee really is.
All in all it is not clear what it really means to, review the Constitution.
2.COMPOSITION
In terms of Joint Rule 98 (1) the Joint Committee consist of 45 Assembly members and 24 Council members, this means that it should comprise 69 members. Whereas other Joint Committees have a lesser number of members. This number seems to be unrealistic, since the number does not make it easy for the Committee to make decisions on issues before it. It is hard to have the majority of the National Council of Provinces component and the majority of the National Assembly component attending, in one sitting of the Committee.
This Committee is composed of Ministers, Deputy Ministers, Presiding Officers, Senior Whips, a Chief Whip and Chairpersons of other Committees and this, on the surface, gives an impression that it is a very powerful Committee. However, the busy schedules which these office bearers run lead to poor attendance amongst members.
Another problematic feature is how the Ministers and Deputy Ministers should be notified of the meetings of this Committee. It is not clear whether they should be sent notices the same as way as other members of the Committee or if they should be invited differently.
Ministers
Prof A K Asmal
Dr P M Maduna
Mr. M V Moosa
Mr. F S Mafumadi
Dr E G Pahad
Dr Z S T Skweyiya
Deputy Ministers
Ms N G W Botha
Mrs. B S Mabandla
Ms L B Hendricks
Mr. M A Mangena
Presiding Officers
Dr F N Ginwala
Ms B Mbete
Mrs. G N M Pandor
Chief Whip (NCOP)
Mr. M E Surty
Senior Whips
Dr C P Mulder
Mrs. P De Lille
Chairperson of Committees (NCOP)
Ms S N Ntlabati
Deputy Chairperson of Committees
Mr. M J Bhengu
Chairpersons of Portfolio Committees
Mr. Y I Carrim
Adv J H De Lange
Mr. M E George
Inkosi M W Hlengwa
FIXED DAYS
If particular days were set aside for meetings of this Committee, then maybe attendance might improve, Fridays are not conducive for meetings of this Committee, therefore cannot be set aside for meetings. And Wednesdays can only be in the morning between 09:00 and 11:00, because the Secretary is serving on another Committee, which meets only on Wednesdays between 12:30 and 14:00.
4.SUPPORT
The Committee has the following people as its support staff:
Committee Secretary: Mr. E Kgopa
Committee Assistant: Ms B Madikane
Control Committee Secretary: Ms H Salie
Secretary to Chairperson: Ms A Nortjie
5.OVERSEAS VISITS
The overseas study tours it is understood, are fact finding missions so that a Committee can learn how other Parliamentary Committees from other countries deal with similar duties before, it. However it is not clear whether they are necessary or not for this Committee.
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