Hansard: NA: Unrevised hansard- Vote 36

House: National Assembly

Date of Meeting: 11 May 2016

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UNREVISED HANSARD 

WEDNESDAY, 11 MAY 2016

PROCEEDINGS OF EXTENDED PUBLIC COMMITTEE – NATIONAL ASSEMBLY CHAMBER

 

Members of the Extended Public Committee met in the National Assembly Chamber at 10:01.

 

 

The House Chairperson (Mr C T Frolick) as Chairperson, took the Chair and requested members to observe a moment of silence for prayers or meditation.

 

APPROPRIATION BILL

Debate on Vote No 36 - Water and Sanitation:

 

The MINISTER WATER AND SANITATION: Hon Chairperson, hon chairperson of the portfolio committee and committee members, Deputy Minister Tshwete, hon Members of Parliament, colleagues, chairpersons and chief executives of the water boards and other water sector entities honoured guests, fellow South Africans, sanibonani. [Hello.] We are here to present to Parliament and the people of South Africa the budget of the Department of Water and Sanitation for the financial year 2016-17.

 

As guided by the precepts and imperatives of the National Development Plan, NDP, the ANC’s manifesto, the second National Water Strategy, our department continues to put water provision and sanitation services at the centre of the government programmes. Guided by the NDP, we will steer South Africa towards radical socioeconomic transformation to create jobs, reduce inequality and push back the frontiers of poverty.

 

Furthermore, as part of transformation, we seek to ensure that there is inclusive growth, creation of new industries and promotion of knowledge-based solutions. And that water will contribute to peace and stability as well as act as a cross- cutting agent of change.

 

The broad vision of the NDP for Water Resources and Services is that, by 2030, all South Africans will have affordable access to sufficient safe water and hygienic sanitation to live healthy and a dignified life.

Through this budget we are presenting before you fellow South Africans, what we seek to ensure that amongst others we

increase the pace of service delivery and we ensure that it is accelerated as well as pay more attention to further develop resilient infrastructure that will help us to meet the needs of households, industry, commerce and the environment.

In September 2015, together with 192 other countries, our country through the United Nations committed itself to the realisation of the targets set in the Sustainable Development Goals, SDGs. For the very first time, water and sanitation was adopted as a stand-alone Goal 6 that promotes availability and sustainable management of water and sanitation for all.

The implementation of the SDGs, require us to pay attention to the quality of projects in order to ensure quality and reliability, as underscored in the Sustainable Development Goals.

With this budget, we will continue working hard to ensure that women like Mama MaDlamini from Umkhanyakude and Mme MaChauke from Giyani, cease to be victims of indecent assault and humiliation through bringing quality dignified sanitation within their reach and in their respective households.

As a reminder, South Africa is a water scarce country that has never fully explored mixed water use. For some time now, our country has been in the clutches of a severe drought, largely due to climate change and the rise in temperatures.

In response to the aforementioned challenges, the g overnment under the leadership of President Jacob Zuma, established an Interministerial Task Team with representation from different sectors. Within the water sector, in order to mitigate the drought effects, dam operating rules have been applied to 35 dams and four systems where restrictions are currently applied with regard to the water resource.

 

To mitigate the effects of the drought on water users, the department has spent over R500 million on emergency and short- term interventions in KwaZulu-Natal, Free State, North West, Eastern Cape, Mpumalanga, Limpopo, Western Cape and Northern Cape that include, water conservation and water demand management through the implementation of the project War on Leaks, surface water resource management where we seek to optimise operation of the Vaal River System, groundwater resource management which also uses drilling and equipping of boreholes as an intervention, carting of water using fleet of motorised tankers, provision of static storage tanks and storage reservoirs as well as water transfers such as the emergency transfers from Tugela to Goedertrouw and uThongathi River transfer to Hazelmere.

 

The medium to long-term interventions s e e k t o ensure that we are more climate change resilient and we should of course reduce the risks for future drought mitigations. In this area our focus is primarily on domestic rain water harvesting, integrating groundwater and surface water use in the future, going full- scale and at a large-scale, in the area of desalination, invest on innovative solutions such as Drop the Block, a water saving mechanism which was designed by Prasheen Dokie, a young chemical engineer from KwaZulu-Natal, Prasheen is here today and we want to acknowledge his presence. [Applause.]

 

We also seek to incorporate all municipal and privately owned dams into the management system for the future.

 

We will also be promoting the building of additional storage capacity using innovative solutions. Lastly, we will roll out large scale reuse of water, focusing on effluent recycling on coastal towns where treated effluent are disposed via sea outfalls and not taken into account in return flows.

Hon members and fellow South Africans, I wish to take this opportunity to thank all South Africans, those who have been involved in the unprecedented humanitarian support that other South Africans have received from civil society and business during this difficult time of the drought. Many organisations, including the Nelson Mandela Foundation, all joined forces with Operation Hydrate and launched what can only be described as the biggest water drives ever seen and have delivered more than 13 million litres of water.

 

Furthermore, we must extend our sincere appreciation to the Defence Force, for putting the necessary infrastructure and resources in mitigation of the drought. Dankie. Siyabonga. [Thank you.] [Applause.]

 

Since our last presentation, this department has been hard at work to reflect on its own capacity and ensure the implementation of the strategic plan and the Annual Performance Plan.

 

As mentioned before, we have been working closely with the Department of Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs, to implement the Back to Basics Programme so as to address the challenges faced by local government.

Progress on the Back to Basics implementation, has been most impactful in those municipalities that have been placed under administration.

In this regard, the most notable impact is seen in the municipalities of Ngaka Modiri Molema and Madibeng in t h e North West Province, Makana in the Eastern Cape, uMkhanyakude in KwaZulu-Natal as well as Bushbuckridge in Mpumalanga. In these particular cases funds have been consolidated to fund projects and this is what we have observed: There has been rapid reinstatement of water supply due to dysfunctional infrastructure.

 

The immediate revitalisation, restoration and repair of water services; particularly in uMkhanyakude, Ramotshere Moiloa, Tswaing, Mahikeng and Ditsobotla in Ngaka Modiri Molema.

 

The optimisation of water treatment and waste water treatments in the area of Brits where we focused on the water treatment works in Madibeng and the pump stations and water treatment works in Makana in the Eastern Cape.

The facilitation and the implementation of capital projects to expand the capacity and improve water quality such as in Mahikeng, Brits and Makana.

 

Hon members, when we tabled the budget last year, we outlined our strategic priorities which are: Water Resource Management; Water Infrastructure Development; Water and Sanitation Services and the exercise of regulatory and policy responsibilities.

 

We do recognise however that a large number of the municipal water systems and sewerage systems are in a very poor state of operation and we are committed to fixing this.

 

Recognising the aforementioned challenges, an Interministerial Task Team endorsed and supported implementation of a proposal by the department w h i c h i s a b o u t a Radical Approach for Operations and Maintenance of Water and Sanitation Infrastructure in South Africa.

 

It is our intention that where there have been service delivery failures and incidents of pollution, we will intervene, working  in  partnership  with  provincial

governments and the Department of Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs.

 

We wish to remind you of the concept of the Water and Sanitation Revolution that was intended to give more impetus and pace to the achievement of our strategic priorities.

 

I wish to reiterate our resolve to further intensify the pursuit of this chosen path that will have a catalytic effect on our socioeconomic transformation agenda. The how is based on the following pillars: A robust infrastructure programme, investing on the game changers, facilitating a water and sanitation revolution, working in partnership with the strategic water partnership network that is strategically positioned to be our strong partner in the space and expanding the water family.

 

 

The South African water industry has been too small over time and dominated by the traditional players. We want to both expand and diversify this industry. The Water Research Commission, has been tasked to expand their technology assessment programme s o a s to assist new entrants into the water and the sanitation sector.

Technology and innovation remains o n e o f the key ingredients of success. T o g e t h e r w i t h t he Water Research Commission, w e a r e w o r k i n g j o i n t l y w i t h the Department of Science and Technology, in implementing s o m e o f t h e a l t e r n a t i v e s o l u t i o n s b o t h i n s a n i t a t i o n a s w e l l a s w a t e r s t o r a g e c a p a c i t i e s . [ A p p l a u s e . ]

 

 

With regards to infrastructure planning and development, since we have made commitments on infrastructure roll out of major projects in the current administration, progress h a s b e e n m a d e a n d I w i s h t o m e n t i o n j u s t b u t a f e w . I n t h e E a s t e r n C a p e on the Mzimvubu River Water Project finally our plan on this project in the Eastern Cape is on track, comprising two dams. [Applause.] A large dam at Ntabelanga and a smaller dam combined with a hydropower facility at Elaleni.

 

 

The completion of detailed designs will enable commencement of construction which is scheduled to take place during second quarter of the 2016-17 financial year. This scheme includes bulk distribution and water treatment infrastructure, for the benefit of a whopping 540 000 indigent domestic users in the OR Tambo, Alfred Nzo and Joe Gqabi District Municipalities as

well as 2 800 hectare irrigation development around Tsolo targeting primarily the emerging farmer.

 

 

On the Lesotho Highlands Water Project Phase 2 is required in order to augment the Vaal River S ystem. The water delivery component of the project involves the construction of a new dam Polihali Dam, Polihali-Katse Tunnel and associated infrastructure and we estimate the cost of t h i s p r o j e c t t o be in th e tun e of R22,9 billion with water delivery scheduled for 2024. As the benefit of the water delivery accrues to South Africa, the latter is also responsible for funding the water delivery component.

 

With regard to management of Acid Mine Drainage, AMD, building on the success of our immediate and short-term interventions to deal with the problem of AMD in the Witwatersrand area, we wish to announce that government has decided to implement a much more permanent solution to this challenge. This long-term approach is aimed at transforming Acid Mine Drainage into fully treated water, thereby substantially increasing water supply to the Vaal River System and meeting the needs of South Africa’s economic hub Gauteng in a week’s time.

In this regard, we will make an announcement on sight because we have since a p p o i n t e d the Trans Caledon Tunne l Authority, TCTA, as the implementing agent for the long-term solution and we will shortly provide details next week in Gauteng in the West Rand.

 

In the Northern Cape Vaal-Gamagara, this project involves the development of additional groundwater resources to supply the anticipated water demands in support of the mining areas.

 

 

We are pleased hon members and fellow South Africans, to announce that plans aimed at the Lesotho Highlands Water network to Botswana have commenced through the development of the Vaal- Gamagara. Water knows no boundary and that is why we are partnering with Botswana because peace and stability in Botswana will contribute to prosperity in South Africa. [Applause.] The expected completion for this phase is March 2018. Total project budget without Botswana is R13 billion and the total project budget including Botswana is estimated at R18,4 billion.

 

 

In the Western Cape on the Clanwilliam Dam, we are happy to announce that the diversion of N7 through the work that has been done by SA National Road Agency Limited, Sanral, was

a precursor to the raising of the dam and it has since been completed, thanks to Sanral.

 

 

Plans are also in place to extend the distribution system of the Clanwilliam Dam to cover areas beyond Matsikama and Cederberg, thus making Clanwilliam Dam a catalyst for development in the West Coast Region of this province. We are also in consultation with the Departments of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries and Rural Development and Land Reform, to ensure that beneficiaries in the land restitution process also have access, so that we redress imbalances of the past. [Applause.]

 

On the eradication of t h e bucket systems in the formal townships t h a t w e r e left by the apartheid system and have robbed communities of the right to decent and basic sanitation f o r a l l , w e h a v e m a d e d r a s t i c

i n t e r v e n t i o n s . T hrough a verification process, we confirmed some 55 000 bucket toilets predominantly in the Free State, Northern Cape, Eastern Cape and North West. [Interjections.]

 

 

I am dealing with your mess that you left behind. [Laughter.]

With the reality of water scarcity, the geographic spread of communities in relation to services and the availability of supporting infrastructure underscore the challenges of this project.

 

 

To give effect to some of the revolutionary principles, w e have already started implementing a grey water recycling system in the Nketoana and Setsoto Local Municipalities of the Free State. [Interjections.]

 

 

In Britstown, the department eradicated and handed over where some 398 bucket toilets in the Northern Cape have been done and we have completed the project. [Applause.] The community will now use a low water flush system. We are proud to announce that it is in this community where Mme Joyce together with 13 other senior citizens all of them above the age of 80, for the first time received an adapted toilet which will allow easy access for them directly from inside the house limiting the walking distance and improving comfort and safety. [Applause.]

 

 

For the first time in 80 years, this 22-year-old government has been able to make that difference. In the Springbok area of

Namakwaland, the department has eradicated a further 192 toilets in seven villages.

 

 

The department will also intervene in some municipalities that are struggling to fund the provision and maintenance of the bulk infrastructure.

 

In the North West, where only 231 bucket toilets were recorded, the department today can announce that this province will join Gauteng, Limpopo, KwaZulu-Natal and Mpumalanga provinces, as having rid themselves of the legacy of the bucket toilets system in the formal and old established townships. [Applause.]

 

In the Eastern Cape, out of the three projects, the department has completed its programme in Nemato in the Ndlambe Local Municipality wherein 1 390 toilets and Paterson in Sunday River Valley where 1 245 buckets were eradicated, a legacy that has been left even by those who were premiers in the Eastern Cape and are sitting on the other side. [Laughter.] By far the most challenging province is the Northern Cape with its flat terrain.

With regard to delivery of dry sanitation through the Rural Household Infrastructure Grant we have another good story to tell. Our efforts at augmenting the municipal programme of eradicating the sanitation backlog in the 27 priority district municipalities are on track.

 

As a contribution to inclusive growth, we implemented initiatives that support the Resource Poor Farmers with access to water through the Rain Water Harvesting, programme.

Cumulatively, 862 rainwater harvesting tanks have been installed.

 

 

In August 2015, we launched the War on Leaks that seeks to build capacity required.

 

Phase 1 of the project is currently underway and a total of

 

2 827 learners are engaged in the learning process a c r o s s all the nine provinces. [Applause.] The second phase will commence in July 2016.

 

With regard to water and sanitation as a transformative agent, since we took this portfolio, we have travelled throughout the length and breadth of the country, getting to grips with the economic and social implications.

However, we d o a l s o recognise that over the years the water sector has not been transformed and it could not even transform itself, as it should have and our people have not actively benefited from the sector other than being recipients of toilets and water.

 

What should be done now, during the 2014-15 financial year, the expenditure on procurement amounted to R13,3 billion. The amount t h a t w a s spent for the period of 2014-15 was a mere R592 million to black emerging contractors, young people and people living with disabilities. We seek to change this drastically by applying set asides at 30% for women and 15% for young people and 5% for people living with disabilities. We want them to design, to construct, to operate and we also want them to maintain water infrastructure. [Applause.] They also deserve to accumulate wealth out of the work that we are doing.

 

 

We are committing ourselves to fundamentally transforming the sector and we know that we have to invest in skilling, especially young people. We must create an enabling environment for job opportunities and hands our partnership with the DTI we have to ensure equitable water allocation and also use a principle of “ Use it or Lose it” so that when you overuse, you

pay. When you do not use, we redirect those resources to those who are in need.

 

 

Hon members, to effectively carry out our mandate Programme 1 of this department, has been allocated an amount of R1 659 488 000 00. Examples for this is about the implementation of the Programme Management Unit.

 

 

Programme 2 is on Water Planning and Information Management: to the tune of R841 817 000 00 and here we will be looking at amongst other things the work that we are now focussing on the study for uMkhomazi project in KwaZulu-Natal and the Lusikisiki surface and ground water in the Eastern Cape.

 

On Programme 3 on Water Infrastructure Development, R11 696 415 000 00 will be invested in uMzimvubu, Clanwilliam, Tzaneen, Nwamitwa, Vaal-Gamagara and the augmentation of Gariep.

 

 

Programme 4 is on Water and Sanitation Services, focussing on resource poor farmers.

 

 

The last programme is on the Water Sector Regulations, i t

w i l l b e a b o u t the establishment of catchment management agencies and support to water institutions.

We are embarking on policy reform and amongst other things that we will be doing in this financial year is to amalgamate uMhlathuze Water and Umgeni Water into a one KwaZulu-Natal wall-to-wall Water Board. [Applause.]

 

 

We will also be working in the process of setting up a water infrastructure agency in the department, so that we reposition ourselves to realise the goals of the National Development Plan.

 

 

Chairperson, as we have alluded to earlier t h a t the department continues to build and support the creation of t he new infrastructure. The following is what we will also accelerate: In KwaZulu-Natal we will focus on the uMdloti Development Project, which at the initial cost of R528 million is progressing well.

 

 

In Limpopo we will look at the Groot Letaba Augmentation Project which would also be helping us to accommodate the district of Mopani in Limpopo.

 

 

The Giyani Groundwater Augmentation i s fo cu ss in g o n th e Giyani waste water treatment.

On Regional Bulk Infrastructure Grant, we do have a number of municipalities that we will be focusing on amongst others implementing the Presi dential Intervention Project for Mthatha King Sabata Dalindyebo Local Municipality as well as the supply for the Moses Kotane Local Municipality and Rustenburg.

 

 

We will also be focussing on the Jozini-Ingwavuma W ater Project for the Jozini Local Municipality.

 

 

In Gauteng, unlocking of bulk infrastructure development will be implemented in Lion’s Park and Syferfontein projects to promote integrated human settlements and building a nonracial Gauteng.

 

 

In the Limpopo area, we will focus on the intervention that we have alre ady started in the Polokwane Municipality which will help unlock development which has been stifled due to water shortages. We will spend R200 million in that regard.

 

 

In the Free State Caledon River Pipeline we will be working very closely with our water board there to deal with the area of the Gariep Dam t ha t s up pl ie s wa ter to Mangaung.

We also have the Nooitgedacht Low Level Water Scheme in the Eastern Cape that seeks to unlock water service provision for both social and economic development in the Coega region.

 

In Mpumalanga, the Lushushwane Bulk R e g i o n a l Water Supply within the Gert Sibande District Municipality is targeted to be completed in 2017.

 

 

We have Namakwa Bulk Water Supply project in the Northern Cape that we will also be focusing on and a total amount of

R648 million will be utilised and 42 500 people will benefit. [Applause.]

 

There will also be an upgrade of the Mogalakwena B ulk W ater Supply and Umkhomazi Water Project. [Applause.]

 

 

We are also committed and working again under the notion that water knows no boundary. We will be working with other international bodies in ensuring that indeed, we promote peace and stability, prosperity across the world within Africa and in the Southern African Development Community, SADC, region. [Applause.]

May I take this opportunity to thank amongst others, the director-general of the department and her team, the chairperson of the portfolio committee together with the members of the portfolio committee, you South Africans who have been walking with us this journey, remember, it has taken us 22 years to deal with a target of 80% that others failed to do within 300 years. [Interjections.] The life of a black person has to be dignified through the support and the provision of clean water and descent sanitation. [Dankie.] [Ngiyabonga.] Thank you. [Applause.]

 

 

The CHAIRPERSON (Mr C T Frolick): Hon members, before I call upon the next speaker I just want to welcome our guests in the gallery and I just want to remind you that you are here to observe and not to participate in the proceedings. The next speaker is the hon Johnson.

 

 

Mr M JOHNSON: Chairperson, comrades, colleagues and fellow South Africans. Today marks yet another milestone in the history of our democracy through this Budget, whose sole objective is that of taking our country forward.

 

 

We gather to recommit ourselves to yet another step in the direction of improving the lives of our people for the better. As the ANC, we stand ready to put the interests of our people at

the centre of our programs as demanded by our historical mission of serving our people. For these reasons above, as the ANC we endorse the R15,2 billion Budget for 2016-17.

 

Fellow South Africans, water remains basic human right as it is enshrined in our Constitution. A journey towards the provision of safe drinking water and dignified sanitation became one of the priorities of the new ANC led government in 1994. I must say that this journey was a painful one as some died, whilst others were forcefully exiled and jailed. Lest we forget! It is the same journey that continuously prioritises the vulnerable human groups: the aged, the women, children and the disabled.

 

 

Colleagues, this august House must be on a constant reminder that the water provision before 1994 stood at 60-odd per cent, and we can pride ourselves today, that this figure has since been reduced tremendously, through the strides of the ANC interventions, which today stands at around 10%.

 

 

Bantu base-Nzhelele, base-Lamontville nase-Vergenoeg ... [People of Nzhelele, Lamontville and Vergenoeg ...]

 

... President Nelson Mandela once said; “let there be work, bread, water and salt for all”.

It seems as if Madiba knew that one day, some amongst us would go against the wishes of the masses. This begs the question to those who are against this Budget, who do they really represent? Fellow South Africans, be warned about whom you support with your X, as some in this House are openly saying “no to this Budget”. A budget whose intention is to improve the lives of ordinary people, the so-called Coloureds, Indians, Africans, poor White compatriots, the disabled, the youth and the women.

 

 

This Budget equally seeks to provide opportunities for black industrialists to thrive, yet some of us in this very House of Parliament are saying a big no to this progressive Budget ...

 

 

Mense van Mitchells Plein, Galeshiwe ... [People of Mitchells Plein, Galeshiwe ...]

 

 

... the people of Wentworth, and the people of Zwide, these services must be positioned to be at the centre of social and economic activities of our people.

 

 

The recently launched War on Leaks Campaign has started yielding some results through raising of awareness among our communities about the need of saving water and protection of our infrastructure. This campaign has started contributing immensely

in changing the lives of young people in our Country. This bears testimony that the ANC led government cares. As this campaign garners shape, embedded in it must be an earnest programme of maintenance and protection of our infrastructure, aged or otherwise.

 

Comrade Minister, there is a general consensus across the political landscape that this is a balanced Budget fit for its occasion.

 

 

This Budget is 3,2% less than the 2015-16 appropriation. However, more can still be done with less. And this is evident in the way in which this Vote sets out to address current South African water and sanitation needs. The current needs range from access to water and sanitation services; protection of water resources from pollution and overexploitation; water demand management; drought relief; and infrastructure development management ...

 

 

... Bantu base-Khayelitsha, base-0R Tambo, base-Madibeng nase- Botshabelo... [... people of Khayelitsha, OR Tambo, Madibeng and Botshabelo ...]

... Statistics SA general household Survey of 2014 and Institute of Race Relations - The South African Survey tell us that 90% of households now have access to piped water in 2014 which is an improvement from 79% in 1996. Indeed, South Africa drinks from the tap.

 

On the other hand, access to Reconstruction and Development Programme, RDP, standard sanitation stood at 79% in 2014 which is an improvement from 16% in 1996. This means that only 10% of the households lack access to piped water and 20% of households lack access to the RDP standard sanitation.

 

 

Again, who in his or her right mind would vote against such a revolutionary Budget? That person or party does not care about you, the people of Tshwane, they don’t care about you the people of Majakaneng, Mannenburg, Vhembe, Pongolo, from benefitting from these programmes towards changing your lives for the better.

 

 

To the DA members here and abroad, this Budget once again you are reminded, that it seeks to redress the injustice of the past in the area of access to water and sanitation services. You shall all know as to who really is and has been responsible for such injustices. People of North West, Free State, KwaZulu-

Natal, Mpumalanga and Limpopo, South Africa is in the midst of its worst drought in at least two decades, threatening agricultural output, pushing up food prices and causing water supply shortages.

 

 

With an additional R500 million to be administered by the Department of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries and the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform is another confirmation that this Vote seeks nothing else but ensuring the availability of water resources, universal access to water and sanitation services as well as facilitating the equitable and sustainable socioeconomic development.

 

 

Members and supporters of the EFF and DA, did you give your leaders a mandate to object to this Budget, a Budget that seeks to improve your lives for the better?

 

 

Director-General, in terms of Infrastructure Development and Management, IDM, it is worth noting that 78% of the total Budget of this Vote will be spent on infrastructure development. This infrastructure would ensure access to reliable, sustainable and quality water to 192 000 households and 26 865 rural households would also access to sanitation, young people, business men and women of our country.

In addition to provision of water and sanitation services, the infrastructure development programmes will also create thousands of temporary and permanent job opportunities across the country. These programmes would also impart various skills to the local communities wherein these projects are implemented. These skills would enable these communities to join the mainline job market and some even become independent contractors for their local municipalities and communities. These are some of the benefits that would accrue to you young people and business persons of our beautiful country through the adoption of this Budget.

 

 

Minister and Director-General, in so doing, you shall have done a great deal in helping these black businesses thrive. But, when you do such and not pay them in time, you are killing them, thereby reversing the gains we are making in promoting such black businesses.

 

 

The focus of this Budget over the medium-term, would be a massive policy reviews in order to align water policies with the National Development Plan, NDP, and the Medium-Term Strategic Framework, MTSF, 2014-19 priorities, amongst others, for example, the NDP calls for the removal of all legislative impediments to development such as water use license timeframes or turnaround time. In response to this, 80% of water use

authorisation applications will be processed within 300 working days from the date of receipt. This would ensure equitable allocation of water resources for social and economic development.

 

 

Minister and Deputy Minister, as the committee whose task is to oversee your work, we shall indeed play our role more robustly this time around.

 

 

The review of legislation would also ensure the establishment of the remaining seven Catchment Management Agencies, CMA, and nine regional water utilities. This would in turn improve the efficiencies and effectiveness in the delivery of water and sanitation services.

 

 

In conclusion, as the ANC, we look forward to the implementation of your Annual Performance Plan, APP, and strategic plan despite the reduction in Budget.

 

 

All the programmes that make up this Vote are geared towards ensuring the availability of water resources; facilitate equitable and sustainable socioeconomic development; and ensuring universal access to water and sanitation services, for

example, the international agreements that are supported through various commissions such as Lesotho Highland Water Project.

 

 

It is also suffice to quote the French proverb that says indeed Rome was not built in one day - this proverb sums it well that with time all shall be served with enough good quality water and dignified sanitation services.

 

 

However it will not happen overnight, that's why in 1996 few households had access to pipe water but today 90% of the total households in South Africa have access to pipe water. It is the 10% that this Vote seeks to satisfy while maintaining the access of the 90% households.

 

President Madiba taught us well that, what counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the lives we lead.

 

 

Mr L I BASSON: Chairperson, Water is Life. Sanitation is dignity. This is the slogan of the Department of Water and Sanitation. To achieve this, South Africa needs a government that is committed to uphold the Constitution and place the people of South Africa first. A government that is transparent

and have the capability to spend their budget, maintain, upgrade and create new infrastructure to deliver quality water and sanitation. Do you see that government here today? No. If we had an honest and transparent government it would not have been necessary to bring a Promotion of Access to Information Act, PAIA, application to release the Blue and Green Drop Report.

 

 

The 2014 Green Drop Report is shocking. 824 Sewer plants were assessed, receiving 5 000 million litres of sewer per day. These plants are designed to clean 6 500 million litres of sewer daily. In short, there is only 22% capacity available for future demand. In reality, many plants have no surplus capacity and are running at full or over capacity. According to a 2014 Green Drop Report, 84% of sewer plants are in Critical Risk, High Risk or Medium Risk with only 16 % of sewer plants in Low Risk, this implying that millions of litres of untreated or inadequately treated sewer are illegally discharged into our rivers and streams every day.

 

 

AN HON MEMBER: Shocking!

 

 

 

Mr L I BASSON: 82% of South African rivers are considered threatened by pollution. This is the result of non- compliance in the monitoring and enforcement by the Blue Scorpions. In a

written reply from the Minister, she indicated that only 85 of the 177 posts are filled and no officials as yet have been designated as Environmental Management Inspectors in terms of the National Environmental Management Act. This is shocking.

Chapter 1 of the Water Act empowers the Minister to act on behalf of the nation and it is the Minister's ultimate responsibility to fulfil certain obligations relating to the use, allocation and protection of and access to water resources. This is a Constitutional mandate and Minister Mokonyane can and should be criminally charged for allowing the pollution of our rivers, streams and ground water. In a report by Action Aid it is noted that more than R300 billion must be allocated for spending on infrastructure to avoid a full-scale water crisis over the next four years. Currently only R11,6 billion is budgeted for this, with a shortfall of R63,4 billion in this financial year. Despite the huge challenges in infrastructure funding, this department agreed with National Treasury to reduce their budget with R827 million. Why? The answer is simple. The Minister knew that they would once again underspend in the financial year, as they did with R2 billion in the 2014-15 financial year and lost R1,6 billion that was not rolled over to the 2015-16 financial year.

 

 

AN HON MEMBER: Keep quiet.

Mr L I BASSON: The continued non-spending of allocated funds has a knock-on effect and infrastructure projects need to be rescheduled year after year. This backlog is becoming bigger and bigger under this government. ANC municipalities and water boards owe this Department of Water and Sanitation R2,9 billion and they seek assistance from Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs, CoGTA, to recover the money from municipalities. In the event that this could not be recovered the budget will be revised downwards again. It is important to note that no money is owed to the Department of Water and Sanitation by DA-controlled municipalities. [Applause.] [Interjections.] Minister, here is your report. For this reason, it is no surprise that nine out of the top 10 municipalities are governed by the DA and the 10 worst municipalities governed by this side of the House.

 

 

The DA acknowledges that South Africa has made progress in the access of drinking water to our people but this trend is rapidly reversing due to crumbling infrastructure under ANC control. [Interjections.] 12 months after Madibeng has been placed under administration and six months after I informed this House in November last year, the horror story that the Minister never will tell, is still continuing. This old lady, Johanna Nkgweng, who lives in a township called Lethlabile in Madibeng, which

ironically means "place of water” is still rolling a 200 litre drum full of water from a borehole for two kilometres to her house where she had running water just more than two years ago. She uses half of her pension money to pay for this water. She is one of millions of South Africans struggling without water not because of drought but because of poor infrastructure, corruption and mismanagement by the ANC government. [Interjections.] South Africa, on the 3rd of August you have got two choices: Stick to this government and be part of the worst run municipalities in South Africa suffering without water or vote DA that will bring freedom, fairness and opportunities to your municipality, [Applause.] that will deliver you with quality services that you deserve. I thank you. [Applause.] [Interjections.]

 

 

Nks M S KHAWULA: Sihlalo – ngicela nithule bafethu ngizosiza nina la. [Ubuwelewele.] Siyinhlangano ye-EFF sithi siyasichitha lesi sabelomali. Kuyimanje laphaya eBhayi kusigceme samashumi amabili nane abantu bahlala nomfula onukayo phu,i-Swartkops.

Ayikho into eyenziwayo ukuthi abantu bathole amanzi ahlanzekile. Ngiyabonga, eyi, ngiyayidinga imizuzu yami bandla. [Ubuwelewele.] Laphaya KwaZulu-Natal, e-Mooi River, kusigceme sesithathu, amanzi awekho kodwa emgaqweni uthola amapayipi aqhumile egxaza amanzi, izitamkoko ngicela nizibuke ukuthi

zinjani. Ngqongqoshe, izimali zabantu - kubelungu ngeke uyibone yenzeka lento - kuphonseka ngisho nabantwana phakathi – ngilaleleni, ngiqondene nani ngqo ngizonisiza.

 

Kwezinye izindawo ezinenkinga kakhulu ise-Mayville esigcemeni sekhulu nanye Inkinga yakhona ukuthi lo hulumeni enilokho nithi uyaqhuba, uyaqhuba, wakha izindlu asimfuni uHulumeni oqhubayo sifuna osebenzela abantu. Abanazindlu zangasese abantu bakuleya ndawo, abanawo ugesi, abanawo amanzi, abantu besifazane bonke basebenzisa indlu yangasese eyodwa, elilodwa, buka nje ihlazo, iminyaka engamashumi amabili nantathu nibusa. Qaphela Makondo. [Uhleko.] EPhoenix – ngifuna ulalele njalo Ngqongqoshe asixabani ngiyakusiza [Ubuwelewele.] – uma abantu abamnyama bengenawo amanzi, kuthiwa banezikweletu, kuvalwe ompompi, kuthiwe basebenzise imali kaNkulu ... baphucwe wonke amanzi. Kodwa e- Phoenix kunompompi laphaya kusigceme samashumi amahlanu nane [kwaRatane, lendlu yangasese iyaxhaxhaza amahora angamashumi amabili nane ngosuku . Kanjalo lo mpompi awuvalwe, ngoba umpompi lo uvuza kuze kuse – ngicela nilale ngoba ngikhulumela abantu bakithi abamnyama.

 

 

Nina anibanakile nhlobo, sifuna uHulumeni ozonaka abantu abakithi, hhayi ozolokhu ematasa ethi uvikelana noMongameli. Sifuna umuntu ozovikela abantu bakithi ukuthi abantu bathole

izinto zabo, ngiyadlula njalo ngoba hheyi sikhathele inina. Siyi-EFF sizimisele ngokubona abantu bala eNingizimu Afrika bephuza amanzi ahlanzekileyo ikakhulukazi emakhaya. Emakhaya bayahlupheka abantu besifazane, babeletha izingane baye emfuleni beyokha amanzi bavika izingwenya. Laphaya -Eshowe niyayazi inkinga yakhona kodwa ayikho into ekhulunywayo esikhundleni salokho nina nakhela abamhlophe amadamu, kudlule amapayipi ayophuza koJozini futhi nalento le enilokho nicula ngayo la njalo nje isomiso, isomiso, noma izulu likhona. Nina inkinga yenu njengoHulumeni we-ANC ninalento yokuthi anifuni ukucabangela abantu abamnyama bala eNingizimu Afrika abawumsinsi wokuzimilela ikakhulukazi nisingatha abase ntshonalanga futhi lento isiphatha kabi futhi iyasihlukumeza thina ukuthi kanti yonke leminyaka thina sasilwela obani. Ngqongqoshe, mina ngiyakucela, ungabalaleli laba, [Kwaphela isikhathi.] badlala ngawe. Wena, lalela thina, sizokusiza thina, uZuma unamanzi laphayana, unayo yonke into, asisivumi lesi sabelomali. Ngicela ukunika uNgqongqoshe izithombe. [Uhleko]

 

 

ILUNGU ELIHLONIPHEKILE: Mnike azibone. (Translation of isiZulu paragraphs follows.)

 

[Ms M S KHAWULA: Chairperson – I request you to keep quiet fellow members because I have come to assist you here.

[Interjections.] As theEFF we reject this Budget Vote. As we speak now people, in Port Elizabeth, in ward 24 live next to avery stinking river called Swartkops river. Nothing is done for the people to get clean water. Thank you, hey, I need my minutes. [Interjections.] In KwaZulu-Natal, there is no water in Mooi River, in ward 3, but you will find burst pipes and water flowing in the street, I also want you to look at the state of sewerage main holes. Hon Minister, people’s monies - you will not find such a thing in white people’s areas - even children fall in there – listen to me, I am directing this straight to you as I have come to assist you.

 

 

Mayville ward 101 is one area that has many problems. The problem is that this government that you always say is moving forward, is moving forward, built houses, we do not want a government that is moving forward but we want the one that is working for the people. People who are living in that area do not have toilets, no electricity, no water, all the women are using one toilet, one, what a shame, after 23 years of you being in government. Beware Makondo. [Applause.] In Phoenix – I want you to listen, hon Minister, we are not fighting but I am just assisting you [Interjections.] – if the black people do not have water, it is said that they have debts, water is cut, and told to use God’s money ... denied complete access to water. But in

Phoenix there are taps in ward 54 at Ratane place, where water is flowing 24 hours a day from a toilet. Therefore, that tap must be switched off because that tap’s water flows day and night – I am asking you to listen because I am advocating for our black people.

 

You do not care for them at all, we want a government that will care for our people, not the one that will be busy protecting the President. We want a government that will protect our people so that they can get what belongs to them, I am moving on because we are tired of you. As the EFF we are committed to seeing the people of South Africa drinking clean water especially in the rural areas. People are suffering in the rural areas, women strap their children on their backs and go to the river to fetch water fending off crocodiles in the process. You know the problems that Eshowe is experiencing but you are saying nothing about them instead you are building dams for white people, pipes cross there to transport water from Jozini Dam and there is this issue of drought that you are always preaching about saying there is drought, drought, although there is rain. Your problem as the ANC government is that you do not want to think for the black people of South Africa who are the indigenous people of this country but you embrace people from the western countries and that saddens and disturbs us because

we ask ourselves who were we fighting for all these years. Hon Minister, I am requesting you not to listen to these people, [Time expired.] as they are making fun of you. You need to listen to us, we will assist you, Zuma has water at his place, he has everything, we do not support this Budget Vote. I request to give the Minister these photos. [Applause.]

 

 

The HON MEMBER: Give them to her for her to see them.]

 

 

Me CEBEKHULU: As this Department is a new department and has the added function of delivering sanitation services, and as South Africa is still in the midst of a water and sanitation crisis, we would have expected the department to have received a greater budget.

 

 

Drought conditions continue to ravage our country. Our dams are at critically low levels. Livestock and agricultural produce are suffering. We have had to import millions of tonnes of maize just to ensure sufficient food security levels for our people over the coming months. This drought has also led to food price hikes.

 

 

Yet we are not being pro-active about maintaining the little water we do have. Alien plants exist in abundance and research

advises they consume inordinate amounts of water. We continue to pollute our surface water and the fact that we are even considering 'fracking' which could pollute our entire underground water table, is just ludicrous.

 

 

Mines are another source of large scale water pollution. We have been warning this government about the dangers of acid mine water for years now, only to be met with ridicule from Ministers and Departments. Well now we have a serious problem and no effective solution to deal with it.

 

 

Another grave source of pollution is by our local municipalities who are failing dismally at the maintenance, upkeep and management of sewage pipes which often burst and lead to waste effluent entering our streams and rivers. This contributes greatly to both human and livestock illnesses.

 

 

Hon Chairperson, why is it that we do not maximise and conserve the water we have? Precious water is simply allowed to flow into the sea. More dams must be build.

 

 

This Department also has the responsibility of building or funding the building of bulk water reservoirs to assist local municipalities with the storage of water.

Without water business cannot prosper. Water is key in terms of agricultural irrigation which is the leading sector in water usage followed by mining and industry and then human beings.

Water is life, yet it is not being prioritised and safeguarded by government.

 

Greater planning, oversight and accountability will ensure proper service delivery.

 

 

The IFP supports the Budget Vote debate. I thank you.

 

 

 

Mr M L SHELEMBE: South Africa is currently in the grip of a crippling drought which is creating havoc with our water reserves. In some provinces, people have to rely on untreated water from muddy dams and rivers which they have to share with livestock and wild animals. Elsewhere, others stand in long queues for water tankers which may or may not come on any particular day, such as the residents of Imbali, in Pietermaritzburg, more specifically those living in Unit BB, Dambuza and Sinathing, where they often go three to four days at a time without water and are forced to go to other areas to fetch water.

When we look at the budget for the Department of Water and Sanitation, it becomes easy to see why we have a situation where our people do not have universal access to clean safe drinking water. It also becomes easy to see why some of our people still have to suffer the indignity of bucket toilets. The total budget allocation to the water and sanitation needs of our people is R 15,7 billion, an amount which the NFP believes is totally inadequate. It is outrageous that the allocation for this department has been reduced rather than increased at a time when we face critical water shortages.

 

 

Hon Minister, the NFP believes that we should learn from the current drought, acknowledge that government was caught unprepared despite all warning signals of the imminent arrival of the El Nino cycle, and start planning now to deal with this cycle more effectively in future. With this in mind, the NFP finds it incredulous to note that the Administration Programme is allocated more funds than the Water Planning and Information Management Programme and the Water and Sanitation Services Programme combined. How is this possible?

 

 

Even more bizarre is the decrease in the allocation for the Water and Sanitation Services Programme from the previous financial year, and the further projected decrease for the 2018-

2019 financial year. Hon Minister, how is it possible to decrease the allocation for the delivery of sanitation at a time when we are faced with an unprecedented urbanisation rate? How is it that we can reduce this programme funding when we still have people using the bucket toilet system which impairs their dignity in the very same way they suffered under Apartheid?

 

 

The NFP wishes to extend an invitation to the hon Minister to come pay a visit to Zululand District Municipality where the NFP is in governance. Come see what efforts we have made to provide our people with clean and safe drinking water, come see the absence of bucket toilets. We believe that it is possible to provide all South Africans with clean and safe drinking water and dignified sanitation if the political will is present.

The NFP will continue to provide this basic service to our people and will do so in all the municipalities where we will govern after the local government elections. Water is a basic right and the NFP understands that very well. Our people shall have water, and that is not a promise, it is an undertaking.

 

 

Ngiyafuna-ke ukuqinisekisa ukuthi singakuthathi sakudlala ngoba abanye oNgqongqoshe abagadelwa okungapheli, bagadelwa ukuthi abawenzi umsebenzi wabo, abadilivi bese abantu bayateleka ngoba

... [Kuphela isikhathi.] (Translation of isiZulu paragraph follows.)

 

 

[I want to ensure that we should not take this as joke because some Ministers are not only guarded for the sake of it, but are guarded because they are not doing their jobs, they do not deliver as a result people revolt because ... [Time expired.]]

 

 

USEKELA MPHATHISWA WESEBE LEZAMANZI NOGUTYULO LWELINDLE: Sihlalo

ohloniphekileyo, Mphathiswa weSebe lezaManzi noGutyulo lweLindle, uNomvula Mokonyane, namasekela akhoyo kwiNdlu yoWiso- mthetho, amaLungu ePalamente, iibhodi zezamanzi esizaziyo ukuba ziyasebenza, iindwendwe zethu zonke ezilapha, manene nani manenekazi, ndiyanibulisa. Imbali yeli lizwe yimbali yocalu- calulo ngokobuhlanga. Ngaphambi kowe-1994, iinkonzo zikamasipala zazijoliswe kubantu abamhlophe kuphela. Yiyo loo nto ubona ohloniphekileyo uBasson ephethe iifoto zabantu abaNtsundu.

Akusokuze kubekho umntu omhlophe oqhuba ikiriva esuka kukha amanzi kude. Asiloyiki elo foto thina kuba siyayazi ukuba basekhona abantu abaNtsundu abasenza njalo.

 

 

Nina nalungiselelana nodwa ngexesha lenu. Yiyo le nto uphethe ifoto elinabantu abaNtsundu abaqhuba ikiriva – khawuphathe ezabelungu. Akukho nomnye umlungu oza kuqhuba ikiriva esikha

amanzi kude. Kaloku nina ngaphambi kowe-1994 benijonge abantu benu bodwa. Khanisiyekeni senze umsebenzi nabantu bethu abaNtsundu. [Uwelewele.]

 

Abantu abaNtsundu bebefumana iinkonzo ezifana namanzi nogutyulo lwelindle phaya ezidolophini kwiindawo zikawonke-wonke. Ukanti emakhaya bebesela emilanjeni besebenzisa iintili, amahlathi namatyholo ukuzinceda ngasese. Uyabona ukuba amatyholo angayithetha imbali yawo angasixelela izinto ezinkulu. [Kwahlekwa.] Sibulela urhulumente we-ANC ngokubuyisa izidima zethu.

 

 

Sihlalo, njengoko sonke siqaphela ukuba le nyanga yinyanga yabasebenzi, khawukhe uze nefoto yomlungu eqhuba ikiriva enamanzi. [Kwahlekwa.] Olu hlahlo-lwabiwo-mali lufana naba nibatoyi-toyisayo ezitalatweni ze nina nihlale ezindlwini. Nisekelezele ekukhuliseni iimpula-zikaLujaca abangeenandawo, ingakumbi oomama nolutsha. Yiyo loo nto sisithi namhlanje, siza kwenza uhlahlo-lwabiwo-mali olujolise kwezaa mpula zikaLujaca zingazange zilungiselelwe yiDA.

 

 

Uhlahlo-lwabiwo-mali maluqondwe njengesicwangciso sokusebenza nokukhanyisela imigama esele siyihambile ekuphuhliseni iimeko zokuphila kwethu. (Translation of isiXhosa paragraphs follow.)

[The DEPUTY MINISTER OF WATER AND SANITATION: Hon Chairperson,

 

the Minister of the Department of Water and Sanitation, Nomvula Mokonyane, the deputies present here in the House of Assembly, Members of Parliament, waterworks entities that we know are working, all our visitors present here, ladies and gentlemen, I greet you all. The history of this country is that of racism.

Before 1994, the municipal services were meant for white people only. That is why you see the hon Bason carrying photographs of black people. There will never see a white person pushing a wheelbarrow from fetching water. We are not scared of that photograph because we know there are black people who are still doing that.

 

In your time you did everything you could to make life more convenient for each other. That is why you are holding a photograph of black people pushing wheelbarrows – why dont you hold photographs of white people. You will never see a white person pushing a wheelbarrow to fetch water away from home.

Before 1994, you only concentrated on your people. Please leave us alone so that we can continue working with our black people. [Interjections.]

 

Back then black people were getting water and sanitation services only in public places in urban areas. But in the

villages they were drinking water from the rivers and used the valleys, forests and bushes as their toilets. If the bushes could talk, we would things. [Applause.] We thank the ANC-led government for reinstating our dignity.

 

 

Chairperson, as we all acknowledge that this is workers’ month, please try to bring a photograph of a white person pushing a wheelbarrow with water. [Applause.] This budget vote is like those you use to parade for you toy-toying in the streets while you are relaxed in your houses. You continue perpertrating destitution of the underprivileged who are homeless, especially women and the youth. That is why we say today, we are going to create a budget directed exactly at the poorest of the poor who were never catered for by the DA.

 

 

The budget vote must be viewed as a framework and a means to highlight the strides already made in improving lives and welfare.]

 

 

In the last financial year the department assembled women in Gauteng from the length and breadth of our country to engage them on mechanisms and strategies in the development of water and sanitation infrastructure. These women represented planners in government, public representatives, community-based

organisation, nongovernmental organisations, academic institutions, women in water and sanitation and the business sector. These women are now working with the department as part of woman Incubator Support Programme.

 

 

I am pleased to report that the Prince Albert II of Monaco Foundation will be presenting the Water Research Commission with the 2016 Water Award, for outstanding commitment to provide sustainable access to water resource, water supply and sanitation in South Africa on 30 June 2016. [Applause.]

 

 

In Co-operation and Collaboration, the department...

 

 

 

...ewe, abanengqondo. Ngumlungu onengqondo. [Uwelewele.]

 

[...yes, the righteous ones. He is a virtuous white man. ... [Interjections.]]

 

 

...on operations with various provinces, municipalities and the business sector, ...

 

...njengaba bethu, banayo ingqondo, nina aninayo, ... [. just

 

like ours, they are virtuous, you are not, ]

...ensured continued provision of water in areas that were severely affected by the drought especially in KwaZulu-Natal, Mpumalanga and the Free State.

 

The Department of Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs has now called on municipalities to set aside up to 8% of their operational budgets for the maintenance of water and sanitation infrastructure.

 

 

We have always maintained that government cannot work alone and to that effect we are grateful for the citizenship that has been displayed by various business partners in providing relief to drought-affected areas of our country. Operation Hydrate has to date supplied over 3 million litres of drinking water to various municipalities in Peddie, in the Eastern Cape and in Winburg, in the Free State.

 

 

The business partners in the construction industry have also made undertakings to contribute to skills development in the water sector as part of youth empowerment. [Applause.] In partnership with business partners, once again, we have exposed and connected more than 3 500 learners and 100 educators into the latest technology.

Five media classrooms were awarded in the last financial year to five schools in the Free State, Eastern Cape, Gauteng, KwaZulu- Natal and Western Cape. Thank you to MTN!

 

The civil society partnerships established during the last financial year resulted in the development of Water and Sanitation Community Forums in 21 of the 27 distressed municipalities. This work will continue in this financial year. These forums will be underpinned by common terms of reference adopted at a national level.

 

Through our newly established Water and Sanitation Hotline, members of the public will have a central point where they can access information and register water and sanitation service challenges.

 

The hotline will ensure speedy response and improve customer satisfaction level. The toll-free number, ...

...mamelani [...listen]

 

 

The toll-free number is, 0800200200 and the SMS is...

 

 

...siyaqhuba, ... [...we are moving forward, ...]

...the SMS is, 4517 and is accessible between, ...

 

 

...yayingekho le nto, mamelani, ... [...this never existed, listen, ...]

 

 

...between 6am and 10pm, weekdays, ...

 

 

 

...awumameli, ... [...you do not listen, ...]

 

 

...and 8am to 4pm on weekends. The War on Leaks Programme, which you are against it, was launched in Nelson Mandela Bay on August 2015.

Yhooo, nifane nathi yhooo. [Wow, you can say wow.]

 

 

 

Currently, it has about 3 000 trainees that are in the system who are trained as plumbers, water agents and artisans - for the first time in South Africa. Viva, ANC, Viva! [Interjections.] At the beginning of the project it experienced some challenges which included the following: We know that there were long distances between training facilities and areas of residence of some trainees and some trainees confused this training with employment.

These have since been resolved and our recent visit to Mpumalanga has shown that both the administration and trainees in the facilities are happy that the Minister - my Minister, and the President brought this War on Leaks training programme. For the first time, there are the students.

 

Nabaya abantwana bam, halaalaaa! Siyaqhuba. [Kwaqhwatywa.] Nina kaloku nilibele kukuxhibithekisa abantu abaNtsundu ezitalatweni nihlale apha nina nimhlophe. [Uwelewele.] [There are my children, hooray! We are moving forward. [Applause.] You are busy sending black people on a wild-goose chase in the streets while you, white people, are chilled in here. [Interjections.]

 

 

The department, in its quest to deliver water and sanitation to our people, considered the importance of building relations with strategic global partners as they are critical...

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms Y N Phosa): Order!

 

 

 

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF WATER AND SANITATION (Ms P Tshwete): In

the past financial year, the department prioritised engagements based on foreign strategic policy of the country lead by the Department of International Relations and Co-operation. These were interventions to share expertise, transfer skills,

technology, share notes and collaborate on different platforms and invest in the water sector development programmes.

 

 

Through these partnerships, the Department of Water and Sanitation in South Africa, said we will enhance and broaden our scope on water mix and maximise the use of ground water. We are happy to report that the multilateral participation at the highest level will allow South Africa to influence the “Global Agenda and Narrative on Water” and further enhance the Africa position derived from Agenda 2063 and our own National Development Plan, NDP and its related indicators and priorities.

 

 

The quality of water, ...

 

 

...mamela ke ohloniphekileyo uBasson ndikuphendule, ... [...hon Basson, listen as I respond to you...]

 

 

 ...the quality of water services operations in South Africa is reflected in the blue and green results. Most of the municipalities are now active participants in the Blue Drop certification and Green Drop assessments. I don’t know...

 

 ...ukuba le ngxelo yakho uyithatha phi, ... [...where you get your information, ...]

...or the portable water and waste water.

 

 

Inoba yeyakudala. [It is probably old.]

 

 

 

The quality of drinking water has significantly improved for the better and the management of the waste water has greatly reduced raw sewer spillages into the rivers. This has been done through the rehabilitation of the waste-water treatment plants across the country.

 

 

The recent drought conditions in the country mobilised all the water services authorities to audit their infrastructure; to plan for improved infrastructure and use of modern technology in the water provision and sanitation services.

 

Ndiyacinga ukuba umamele. [I believe you are listening.]

 

 

 

The department currently have detailed water and sanitation services needs and plans integrated into the 2016-17 financial year budget plans. These are also accompanied by the new technological innovations.

 

This new Integrated Waste Water Treatment and Reuse Package Technological System has an instant use capability which enables

it to directly discharge water that helps to replenish the natural water resource.

 

 

Secondly...

 

 

...siyaluxhasa uHlahlo-lwabiwo-mali lweSebe lezaManzi noGutyulo lweLindle singu-ANC. [Kwaqhwatywa.] [...as the ANC, we support the Budget Vote of the Department of Water and Sanitation. [Applause.]]

 

 

Nkul T MAKONDO: Mutshamaxitulu, ndzi yime laha ndzi yimela vandla ra ANC ku seketela Vhoti ya Mpimanyeto ya Ndzawulo ya swa Mati na Nkululo. Hi ti 27 Dzivamisoko 2016, Afrika-Dzonga a yi tlangela Siku ra Ntshuxeko. Ntirho lowu a wu khomeriwe erivaleni ra mitlangu ra Giyani. Vanhu a va tile hi xitalo hi magidigidi va huma kule na le kusuhi ematlhelo hinkwawo ya Giyani ku ta yingisela mbulavulo wa Phuresidente.

 

 

Xavumbirhi, vaaki va le Giyani a va lava ku khensa mfumo lowu rhangeriweke hi ANC loko wu tisile xintshuxo eka nkayivelo wa mati lowu a wu ri kona eGiyani. Sweswi ndzi vulavulaka mati ya kona eGiyani, hambileswi ka ha sele miganga ya 29 leyi nga kumeki mati hi xitalo siku hinkwaro. Vanhu va ka hina va tshemba no swi tiva leswaku mfumo lowu rhangeriweke hi ANC wu le ku

lunghiseni ka swiphiqo swa wona. Hikokwalaho, Ndzawulo ya swa Mati na Nkululo hi ku tirhisana na Bodo ya swa Mati ya Lepelle, leyi nga ejensi ya ndzawulo, va le ku hoxeni ka tiphayiphi leti nga ta endla leswaku vanhu va ka hina va kuma mati hi ku hetiseka.

 

Tiphayiphi to hangalasa mati leti a ti ri kona ta asibesitosi a ti helele hi nkarhi, naswona a ti pfutisa mati. Hikokwalaho, mati a ma nga koti ku fikelela vanhu va ka hina hi ku hetiseka.

 

 

Hambiloko mavandla yo kaneta ma nga ya emahlweni ma vukula, vanhu va ka hina va rhandza ANC, naswona va yi tshemba ku hundza mavandla lamatsongo lama ya ha ku fikaka ePalamende sweswi. Hambi kuri lava va EFF lava va nga hlambanya kwala Palamende leswaku vaaki va le Giyani va nge kumi mati sweswi vo salela ku nyuma hikuva sweswi vaaki va le Giyani va kota ku kuma mphakelo wa mati wo ringanela.

 

 

Lava va DA na vona hi fambe na vona ku ya kambisisa ntirho lowu ndzawulo yi nga le ku wu endleni eGiyani. Nkulukumba Leon Basson u tlhele a vulavula na vaaki va le Giyani hi ku tirhisa xitichi xa rhadiyo ya vaaki xa Giyani a khensa Ndzawulo ya swa Mati eka ntirho lowu yi nga le ku wu endleni. U tlhele a vula leswaku u tsakisiwile hi ndhawu yo basisa mati leyi va Lepelle va nga yi

aka. Ha hlamala loko namuntlha a ta a ta ba huwa kuri leswaku wa swi tiva leswaku ndzawulo yi le ku tirheni ka mitirho ya yona. Translation of Xitsonga paragraphs follows.)

 

[Mr T MAKONDO: Chairperson, I rise on behalf of the ANC to support the Budget Vote for the Department of Water and Sanitation. South Africa commemorated the Freedom Day on the 27 April 2016. This event was held at Giyani stadium. People came from far and wide around Giyani in their thousands to come and listen to the president’s address.

 

 

Secondly, the residents of Giyani intended to thank the ANC-led government for providing a solution to the scarcity of water that was experienced in Giyani. At this point in time whilst I am addressing you, there is water at Giyani, although there are still 29 villages which do not receive water throughout the day. Our people believe and acknowledge that the ANC-led government is addressing their concerns. Therefore, the Department of Water and Sanitation in collaboration with Lepelle Water Board, which is a departmental agency are busy with the installation of pipes which will ensure that our people have adequate water supply.

The asbestos water supply pipes that were there have reached their life span, and they were leaking water. Therefore, water is not able to reach our people adequately.

 

Even if the opposition parties can continue to criticize, our people love the ANC, and they trust it more than the minority parties which are new in Parliament. Even the EFF who have just made a declaration here in Parliament that the residents of Giyani will not get water supply are now ashamed because they are now able get it.

 

 

We also went with the DA on an oversight to oversee what the department is doing at Giyani. Mr Leon Basson also addressed the residents of Giyani through Giyani community radio station applauding the Department of Water and sanitation for the work that they are doing. He also indicated that he is impressed by the water purification scheme that Lepelle built. We are taken aback today when he criticizes even though he is aware that the department is performing its tasks.]

 

 

South Africa remains at the top of the driest and water scarce country in the world and amongst the hit hard by drought in Southern Africa. The ANC will continue to ensure that in this programme water planning and information management we balance

the equitable allocation of water for domestic use and economic development.

 

 

Since 1994, over 90% of our people, especially those who were marginalised systematically by the apartheid regime have drinkable water. And those who do not have access to water must know that the ANC government has programmes and plans to ensure that they have drinkable water.

 

Currently, we have two catchment management agencies in South Africa. The Department of Water and Sanitation is in the process of establishing new seven catchment management agencies to bring them to nine. These catchment management agencies will go a long way in managing our water resource and rehabilitating our river system. These catchment management agencies will also assist in monitoring those who pollute our water resources and pose danger to our environment.

 

 

Government will come up with concrete permanent solutions to acid mine drainage over the medium-term to avoid eminent danger which is about to happen. Part of our solution would be resolve fragmentation of legislation in awarding mining licenses which will ensure that all departments involved work together.

The principle of polluter pace must be seen to be working, and not just a slogan. New corruption must be visible in mining areas and not come when the crisis have emerged.

 

Local government has to take its space in terms of maintaining water and sanitation infrastructure. We urge big companies which have financial capacity to come to the party in employing alternative solutions in conserving our water resource by recycling or reuse so that those who do not have water get it.

 

 

Hi hluvulela xihuku eka tikhamphani to fana na Coca-Cola na Avis leti hlayisaka mati. Coca-Cola yi hlantswa mabodlhela ya vona hi nkahelo, kasi ku sukela hi 2007 ku fika 2014, Avis yi kote ku hlayisa mati ku fika kwalomu ka tilitara ta 557 wa timiliyoni hikwalaho ka ku basisa mati lawa ya tirheke. (Translation of Xitsonga paragraph follows.)

 

 

[We take our hats off for companies such as Coca-Cola and Avis which conserve water. Coca-Cola cleanses its bottles through vapour, whereas from 2007 to 2014, Avis was able to conserve water of up to approximately 557 million litres through water recycling.]

We appreciate the work of the department and the Ministry for revising the water use licence regulatory framework in accordance with the integrated license approach. This will go a long way in transforming the regulatory regime for water licenses and will address and advance sustained growth and boost investor confidence.

 

 

Hi ku hetisela, a hi ta kombela leswaku mi nyika nkulukumba Shelembe nkarhi wa leswaku va ta va ta seketela Vhoti ya Mpimanyeto leyi hikuva Manana Magwaza-Msibi va ta va va hlundzukile swinene hikwalaho ko va va nga swi kotanga ku yi seketela. I nkomu, Mutshamaxitulu. (Translation of Xitsonga paragraph follows.)

 

 

[In conclusion, we are requesting that you afford Mr Shelembe the opportunity to support this Budget Vote because Ms Magwaza- Msibi will be very angry with him for his failure to support it. Chairperson, I thank you.]

 

 

N ADV A D ALBERTS: Chairperson and Minister, as South Africa currently tiptoes at the edge of another session of load shedding with barrage of television warnings that we need to switch off all appliances and lights, few people in this country know how close we are 11: 16:10 on the edge of water shedding.

Wat wel alreeds ’n algemene gesig is in bykans elke dorp, is die afvoer van afval in riviere en damme, die swak onderhoud van waterstelsels, die styging van swaar metale in ons watervoorraad, die vernietiging van riviere, vleie en die omringende ekostelsels waar swaar industrieë, veral myne bedryf word, en die minagtende houding wat vele stadsrade het as dit by waterbestuur kom.

 

 

Die ANC-regering het vir 21 jaar min, indien enige, aandag aan die onderhoud van water-infrastruktuur in die land gegee. Net soos Eskom gedink het planne vir die toekoms is nie nodig nie, so het die talle munisipaliteite, provinsiale regering en die ANC-regering op nasionale vlak gedink die feëtiies gaan die waterstelsel instand hou.

 

Die probleem rakende kragopwekking is besig om opsigself opgelos te word en daarom is enige planne om waterbesoedelende projekte aan te pak nie meer nodig nie. Die departement moet hom nou eerder toespits om die basiese reg te kry soos die onderhoud van die al die nasionale waterstelsels in Suid-Afrika en die behoorlike vervolging van diegene wat besoedel.

 

 

Dit gebeur nie. Ons kan maar net kyk wat in elke dorp gebeur, hoe afval in die waterstelsel kom en in die riviere afvloei. Ons

kan maar net kyk hoe omtrent elke rivier in Nelspruit, in die omgewing asook in die Hoëveld vernietig is weens onwettige mynaktiwiteite of aktiwiteite wat wel toegelaat word deur die regering, maar waar daar nie behoorlike lisensies uitgegee is of waterregte nie bekom is nie.

 

Minister, dit is uiteindelik jou verantwoordelikheid om te verseker dat ons land se waterbronne skoon en veilig is. Ons is egter baie bekommer, want ons sien dit nie gebeur nie. (Translation of Afrikaans paragraphs follows.)

 

 

[What is already a common sight in almost every town, is the discharge of waste in rivers and dams, the poor maintenance of water systems, the rising heavy metals in our water supply, the destruction of rivers, lakes and the surrounding ecosystems where heavy industries, especially the mining industry, operate, and the contemptuous attitude of many city councils when it comes to water management.

 

 

The ANC government has for 21 years paid little, if any, attention to the maintenance of water infrastructure in the country. Just like Eskom thought that plans for the future were not necessary, the various municipalities, provincial

governments and the ANC on national level thought that the fairies would maintain the water systems.

 

 

It appears if the problem regarding power generation is being resolved and therefore there is no need for plans to implement water polluting projects anymore. The department must now focus on getting the basics right, like the maintenance of all the national water systems in South Africa and the proper prosecution of those that pollute.

 

 

This is not happening. We only need to look at what is happening in every town, how waste gets into the water system and flows down the river. We only need to look at how almost every river in Nelspruit, in the area and in the Highveld is being destroyed by illegal mining activities that is being allowed by Government, but where proper licences were not issued and water rights not obtained.

 

 

Minister, ultimately it is your responsibility to ensure that our country’s water sources are clean and safe. However, we are very worried, because we do not see this happening.]

 

Manana N BILANKULU: Muchaviseki Mutshamaxitulu, Holobye Manana Mokonyane,  Xandla  xa  Holobye  Manana Tshwete,  vachaviseki

hinkwenu, vuyeni bya hina, vaakatiko va Afrika-Dzonga, vaswirhundzu ni vamatlhari, ndza mi losa. Hina tanihi ANC hi seketela mpimanyeto lowu averiweke ndzawulo. A hi fani na lava nga tshama eka voko leri. A va nge swi koti ku pfuka va mi tirhele nchumu hikuva xa vona i ku ta ala hinkwaswo. Ku tirhela vaaki mi swi tirha ntsena loko mi ri na mali leyi pimanyetiweke leswaku mi ta yi tirhisa mi tlhela mi pfumelelana na yona.

 

 

Ndzi twa ndzi xiximiwe ngopfu ku va un’wana wa lava va nga na xiave eka njhekanjhekisano wa Vhoti ya Mpimanyeto ya Ndzawulo ya swa Mati na Nkululo – Vhoti ya Nomboro ya 36. Mati i vutomi kasi nkululo i vutinyungubyisi bya hina. Mfumo lowu rhangeriweke hi ANC i mfumo lowu nga le ku tirheni ku antswisa vutomi bya vanhu. Ndzi rhandza ku hoyozela Holobye Mokonyane eka ku nghenelela ka n’wina endzhaku ka loko mi twile leswaku Giyani a yi nga vi na mati naswona na sweswi a yi na mati. Eka ndhawu ya Giyani hi karhi hi vona mihandzu ya ku nghenelela ka n’wina. Mati ya kona ma karhi ma huma eka miganga yo ringani 54 laha migingiriko ya ku andlala tiphayiphi ya ha yaka emahlweni. Ku andlariwa ka tiphayiphi ku angarhela muti hinkwawo wa Giyani.

 

 

Ku engeteriwa ka khumbi ra damu ra Tzaneen na ku akiwa ka damu ra N’wamitwa i phurojeke leyi nga ta sungula hi n’hweti ya Hukuri 2016. Mitirho ku ta va matutu vana va Ntavasi. Hi vona ku

nghenelela ka n’wina eka xibedhlele xa Khensani laha na kona a ku nga ri na mati. Nakambe hi vone vukorhokeri bya n’wina emugangeni wa Tikiline laha na kona a va nga ri na mati, kambe sweswi va nga na mathangi ya tiJojo laha va kumaka kona mati. Hi ri khanimamba manana. Yisani emahlweni ku tirhela vaaki. [Va phokotela.]

 

 

Eka mbulavulo wa Presidente loko ku simekiwa manifesto u te, ndza n’wi tshahaa:

 

 

“ANC yi tiyisisa ku ya emahlweni yi aka rixaka ro kala xihlawuhlawu xa tindzimi, rimbewu, leri nga na vun’we, xidemokirasi na ku humelela. ANC i nhlangano wu ri woxe lowu nga na nongonoko wa mafambiselo ya vukorhokeri eka vaaki wu tlhela wu va na mpimanyeto xikan’we na ku seketela mikavelo leyi nyikiwaka tindzawulo. A hi fani na lava.”

 

 

Eka 22 wa malembe lawa hi nga fuma wona, hi kotile ku yisa vukorhokeri na ku nghenisa mati emindyangwini ya 90%, naswona nkululo eka 75,5% ya yona. Hi mayelana na mphakelo wa mati ya mahala  eka  swisiwana,  hi  2007  a  hi  ri  eka  7 225 387  wa

mindyangu, kasi hi 2013 a hi ri na 11 734 526 wa yona.

I ntiyiso lowu heleleke leswaku tanihi mfumo lowu nga eku fumeni na ku va mfumo lowu nga rhangeriwa hi ANC, hi kote ku khumba vutomi bya vanhu vo tala lava a va tsoniwe mfanelo ya mphakelo wa mati yo tenga. Sweswi ndzi vulavulaka ku na ku nghenelela loku va ku endleke va ndzawulo hi ku rhangeriwa hi Manana Mokonyane. Hi vulavula hi ndhawu ya Bushbuckridge eMpumalanga laha ku nga na miganga ya 14 leyi va nga vona leswaku a yi nga ri na mati, kutani va nghenelela. Sweswi yi na mati. Hi vulavula hi le ka xifundzankulu xa North West, eMadibeng, laha va vulavulaka hi kona lava nga tshama hala na le Ngaka Modiri Molema laha sweswi va nga ku voneni leswaku vanhu va kona va kuma mati. Hi vulavula hi le KwaZulu-Natal laha Manana Khawula va humaka kona ku na makungu lawa holobye va nga na wona ku vona leswaku mati ma kona.

 

 

Ku na mapfhumba lawa ya nga kona ku antswisa ku fikeleriwa ka mahungu eka vaaki. Xirho xo xiximeka, hi ta hlanga ehandle leswaku ndzi ta mi hlamusela. Ku na mapfhumba lama ya nga kona, ku fana na Adopt-a-River, War on Leaks na Water Recycling lama nga sunguriwa eFree State.

 

 

Ndzawulo ya swa Mati na Nkululo yi na tiforamu leti lavaka ku fikelerisa hungu eka vaaki hinkwavo. Tolo Holobye Mokonyane a va ri karhi va simeka phurojeke ya Worcester Bulk Water Supply leyi

nga ta phakela mati eka ku tlula 146 000 ya mindyangu. Lowu i nongonoko wo herisa nkayivelo wa mati. Yingiselani. (Translation of Xitsonga paragraphs follows.)

 

[Ms N BILANKULU: Hon Chairperson, Minister Ms Mokonyane, Deputy Minister Ms Tshwete, all hon members, our guests, the South African public, ladies and gentlemen, I salute you. We as the ANC support the budget that has been allocated to the department. We are not like those on the opposition side. They will never render any service for you, and theirs is to oppose everything. One is able to be of service to the community if he or she has funds budgeted for, and you have reached a consensus about it.

 

 

I feel so honoured to be one of those who are taking part in the Budget Vote debate for the Department of Water and Sanitation – Vote No. 36. Water is life, and sanitation is our pride. The ANC-led government is a government at work to improve the lives of the people. I would like to applaud Minister Mokonyane in your intervention after you have heard that Giyani has shortage of water, and indeed to date it does not have it. We can see the fruits of your intervention at Giyani. Water is available in 54 villages wherein the activities of pipes layout is in progress.

The pipes layout involves all the villages of Giyani in totality.

 

 

The raising of Tzaneen Dam wall and the building of N’wamitwa Dam are projects that will commence in November 2016. Jobs will be galore. We have also seen your intervention at Khensani Hospital where there was no water. We have also seen your services at Tikiline village where they did not have water, and to date they have Jojo water tanks where they draw water from. We say a big thank you, madam. Continue to be of service to the people. [Applause.]

 

 

In the address by the president when he launched the manifesto, he said, I quote:

 

“The ANC reaffirms its commitment to building a non-racial, non- sexist, united, democratic and prosperous society. The ANC is the only party that has a programme of action to render services to the society, has the budget as well as support the budget that is allocated to the departments. We are not like these ones.”

 

 

In the 22 years that we have been in power, we were able to render services and supply water to 90% of the households, and

sanitation to 75, 5% of them. With regard to free water supply to the poor, we had 7 225 387 households in 2007, whereas in

2013 we had 11 734 526 of them.

 

 

It is absolutely true that as the government that is in power and being the government that is led by the ANC, we have been able to touch the lives of so many people who were denied the right to clean water supply. At this point in time there is an intervention by the department under the stewardship of Ms Mokonyane. We are make reference to Bushbuckridge area in Mpumalanga wherein there are 14 villages which did not have water, but she then intervened. There is water now. We make reference to Madibeng in the North-West Province which the opposition parties referred to and also in Ngaka Modiri Molema wherein she is now ensuring that its residents have water. We make reference to KwaZulu-Natal where Ms Khawula hails from wherein the minister has plans afoot to ensure that there is water.

 

 

There are initiatives to improve the dissemination of information to the public. Hon member, we shall meet outside so that I may explain to you. There are initiatives such as Adopt- a-River, War on Leaks and Water Recycling which have been established in the Free State. The Department of Water and

Sanitation has forums which seek to disseminate information to the general public. Yesterday minister Mokonyane has launched the Worcester Bulk Water Supply Project which will supply water to more than 146 000 households. This is a programme to eradicate the scarcity of water. Pay attention.]

 

There is a realisation and emphasis in South Africa that water and sanitation services generate substantial benefits to human health, the economy as whole and the environment. Access to clean drinking water and sanitation reduces health risks and fillds time up for education and other productive activities as well increases the productivity in the labour force.

 

 

In 22 years there is something that we did

 

 

 

Hon member, don’t address them.

 

 

 

Ms N BILANKULU: mmmmmmmmm surface water benefit the environment as well as economic sectors that deepens on water as a resource, for example fishing, agriculture and tourism. This is clearly illustrate in a way the budget allocation Programme 4 water and sanitation services has decreased from R1 366 492 billion in 2015-16 to R R701 945 million in 201-17.

Mina Xikwembu xi ndzi nyike rito ra kahle. [God has given me an audible voice.]

 

 

With an emphasis on the important of local government structures mandated and taking responsibilities for water and sanitation provisions.

 

The decentralisation of the function of water and sanitation service from national to local has been strong underpinned by the prescripts in the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa of 1996. The prerequisite application of the National Water Act, the Public Finance Management Act. and the Municipal Finance Management Act. These fundamental pieces of legislation act as strong accountability measures to access the importance of investing and investing and turning finance into services for 2015 and beyond at national, provincial and local spheres government to ensure that all citizens have access to safe and equitable water and sanitation services.

 

 

Water and sanitation services to ensure access to all citizens has been a fundamentally important principle in our evolving democracy. But, increasingly overtime the fundamental rights to basic water and sanitation will also open the debate to how

improvement to water and sanitation can also yield massive returns in investment.

 

 

Nakambe ku na nongonoko lowu pfunetaka varimi lava pfumalaka. Varimi vo ringana 1 348 va pfunetiwile hi mali ku endla mugero eka swifundzankulu hinkwaswo, swik. 188 eEastern Cape, 84 eFree State, 179 eKwaZulu-Natal, 608 eMpumalanga, 102 eNothern Cape,

15 eNorth West na 172 eWestern Cape. Hi nongonoko lowu, ndzawulo yi tumbuluxile 318 wa mitirho. Mathangi ya mati yo ringana 862 ya nyikeriwile eka varimi lava nga si hluvukaka na le ka varimi hinkwavo lava nga pfunetiwa hi nhluvukiso wa swa vurimi. Swilo leswi va swi endlaka i swiboho leswi hina tanihi ANC hi nga teka eka nhlengeletano ya hina ya tiko hinkwaro ya vu53 eMangaung hi 2012. A hi endli ntsena kambe hi endla hi ku landzelela swiletelo leswi nga kona leswi hi fambisaka. (Translation of Xitsonga paragraph follows.)

 

 

[Again there is a programme which gives assistance to the needy farmers. Approximately 1 348 farmers have been given financial assistance to make furrows throughout the provinces, e.g. 188 in Eastern Cape, 84 in the Free State, 179 in KwaZulu-Natal, 608 in Mpumalanga, 102 in the Northern Cape, 15 in North West and 172 in the Western Cape. The department has created 318 jobs with this programme. Approximately 862 water tanks have been donated

to small-scale farmers and to all those farmers who have been assisted in farming development. The things that she is doing are the resolutions which we as the ANC took on our 53rd National Conference in Mangaung in 2012. We do not just do it, but we do in accordance to prescripts that guide us.]

 

According to the African Ministerial Conference on Water, Amcow, study water supply and sanitation in South Africa: Turning Finance Into Services For 2015 And Beyond, the enabling environment for facilitating service delivery in South Africa is well developed and South Africa has performed well with respect to the development building blocks. [Time expired.]

 

 

Eka vaakatiko, mi tivonela ku ya hlawula lava nga tlhelo leri. A va nga mi pfuni hi nchumu. Fambani emahlweni mi ya vhotela ANC hi ti 3 ta Mhawuri. Hi seketela Vhoti ya Mpimanyeto leyi. [Va phokotela.] (Translation of Xitsonga paragraph follows.)

 

 

[To the citizens, be careful to go and vote for the opposition parties. They will not help you a piece. Go and vote for the ANC on the 3rd of August. We support this Budget Vote.] [Applause.]

 

Ms T E BAKER: Madam Chair, “the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry,” these are the words of by Robert Burns. You see

hon members, the ability to plan is not a problem for the Department of Water and Sanitation, the implementation of these plans is as Achilles Heel.

 

Minister, you should not stand here and speak so proudly about Umkhanyakude, the people in Mtubatuba in St Lucia have not had water since the 09 April 2016. How dare you? People have been killed in service delivery protest for water, in Bushbuckridge. Shame on you ANC!

 

 

The Phase two of the Lesotho Highlands Water Project is being hailed as the panacea, which will put paid to water shortages in the Gauteng. All well and good, but this project should have been up for completion in 2018 at a cost of under R10 billion.

The targeted date has now been moved to 2024 at an increased cost of R24 billion, which means an additional 6 years of water cuts for Gauteng residents.

 

 

The raising of the Hazelmere dam wall project, another story of delays, this project was first approved in 2011 with a budget of R91 million. We are told that construction has now begun with an increased budget of, wait for it, R359 million with no fixed completion target date yet.

Further, in land we have the Umzinyathi district and the story of a 36 km pipeline, which is to pump water from the Craigieburn dam to the town of Greytown. The target date for this is already three years late, with a new date set for July 2017. First conceived in 2008, agreements were only finalised in 2014, construction began in 2015. The initial budget R290 million, currently it is R500 million.

 

 

Let’s move further afield to a province plagued by the most violent service delivery protests in the country, Limpopo. Over the period of more than ten years, R500 million has already been spent, and yet the problems still persist.

 

In August 2014, the wonder woman, Minister of Water and Sanitation arrived to declare an end to the water woes of the people of Mopani as in sight. A task team was formed and a budget of R96, 4 million was allocated. Within just three months this budget escalated to R502, 6 million, how in the world? Yet, hon members, sadly, the water woes of Limpopo, just like the budget, have also escalated to an intolerable level.

 

 

The bucket eradication programme, Minister really, another story of deadlines missed, over and over again. First initiated in 2005, 91% of the targeted 252 254 toilets was achieved by the

end of March 2008, a remarkable achievement in just 3 years by the ANC government of their time.

 

 

The remaining 9 % should have been a walk in the park. Fast forward to 2016, and here we sit with a budget of R975 million, and a backlog of R88 000, R67 000, or R55 000 who knows, it changes all the time. That’s the number of bucket still in the informal settlements today. How in the world is this-even possible?

 

 

Green Drop reports ha! Now here is a disaster for you, 66% of the countries assessed wastewater treatment plants are currently listed as being in critical condition, 44 plants in the Free State and 40 in the Mpumalanga. No wonder the streets of Embalenhle, Emalahleni, Senekal and Zastron are flowing with sewerage. The top ten best performing plants, which scored 95% of above, are found in the Western Cape followed by the KwaZulu- Natal.

 

 

Gauteng received a mere 5 Green drop awards, but the biggest shocker – wait for it, is Tshwane where none of the plants received a green drop award; not even one. The top performing Metro, the City of Cape Town, welcome to the City, no surprise, because where the DA governs, we govern well. Now let’s just

consider for a moment the impact the current drought has had on ordinary South Africans. [Interjections.]

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms Y N Phosa): Hon members order!

 

 

Ms T E BAKER: The department’s response to this disaster can best be described as lackadaisical, in most cases only taking action after the damage was done; much too little hon members, much too late.

 

 

We have reports of over 627 towns and 47 dams, which ran out of water over in the past year alone. I put it to you hon members that just like the President, so too has the Minister violated the rights of millions of ordinary South Africans by depriving them of their rights to water.

 

 

She too should be brought to task for this flagrant negligence to protect and uphold the Constitution of our country. Fellow South Africans – yes, you must listen - the time for change is now. Bring on the 03 August; the DA is ready to govern, Siyeza! [Applause.]

 

Mr D MNGUNI: Chairperson, Minister Nomvula Mokonyane, Deputy Minister Pam Tshwete, hon members, ladies and gentlemen, may I

start by supporting Budget Vote 36 allocation on water and sanitation on behalf of the ANC. [Applause.]

 

 

Hon Baker, all the increases that you see is because of the world economic downturn that is causing that. The Budget is always reviewed because we want it to be done accordingly by this government. Secondly, hon Cebekhulu, the decrease of the budget is not done by the Minister or the department, but it is done by the Treasury because of the same economic meltdown. So, it is the directive and not the Minister.

 

Hon Shelembe and Alberts, you spoke about fracking and nuclear. This is the Department of Water and Sanitation and not the Department of Minerals and Energy. If you want to go and debate about that go to that one. I heard the hon Lion Baker; you said the DA municipalities are well-run in terms of sanitation. Go to Khayelitsha and see what is happening there; in Khayelitsha people do not have access to basic sanitation. They share inadequate temporal facilities like chemical toilets, Porta Potty. You are a disgrace because you only spend o1% of the total percentage on the informal settlement. [Interjections.] You are really a disgrace.

In the past the water and sanitation infrastructure development, with the required investment and capital funding and financing was limited to certain geographical white sections of South Africa. But post 1994, the ANC government, in working toward meeting its rights based obligations, has had to make major decisions relying on investment, funding and financing toward water and sanitation infrastructure development to promote efficiency, establish sound and consistent sector policies and supportive institutional arrangements for the execution of sustainable, economical and equitable water and sanitation infrastructure for all citizens.

 

 

Coming back to the hon Leon, you have shown us some pictures of a person pushing drums of water. Why didn’t you assist that person? What car were you driving, a Mercedes-benz? [Applause.] Hon Khawula, I tried to look at your pictures and they were not visible. Did you take them at night? Next time you must use a flashlight so that we can see them well.

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms Y N Phosa): Order! Order!

 

 

 

Mr D MNGUNI: Lenkinga yemanti akusiyo yalamuhla. Sibuya nayo le elubandlululweni, bokhokho babo belumbi bebasicindzetela nasemantini iminyaka ngeminyaka. [Kuhlaba Lulwimi.] [This water

problem does not emanate now. We come with it from way back apartheid time, the forefathers of the whites oppressed us even with regard to water, year after year. [Interjections.]]

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms Y N Phosa): Hon members, screaming in the House disturb the decorum of the House. I am addressing all of you hon members. Order! Order!

 

 

uMnu D MNGUNI: Bebakha emadamu lalingene bona. Batifakela timpompi nasetindlini. Nome bewuhlala nabo usisebenti sasekhishini, edladleni, kitchen girl, nome usisebenti sasengadzeni, garden boy, njengobe besibitwa kanjalo, bebanganandzaba natsi. Manye sebafuna sigucule loko ngaleminyaka lengu 22. Nome bangeke baluvume lolwabiwomali, ngulokutsi bangemaphiciphici.

 

Konkhe loku kubuya kulomkhulu wasbo phela longuHendrik Ferwoed lowatsi sive lesimnyama site ingcondvo. Semukwa nelilungelo lekwati tibalo ngoba ... [Kuhlaba Lulwimi.] (Translation of Siswati paragraphs follows.)

 

 

[Mr D MNGUNI: They used to build dams just enough for themselves. They installed for themselves water tapes even in their houses. Even if you stayed with them as their employee

working in the house, as a kitchen girl, or working in the garden, as a garden boy as we were referred to, they never care about us. Now they want us to change that in just 22 years. Even if they do not support this budget vote, it is because they change colours like a chameleon.]

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms Y N Phosa): Hon member, Mnguni, take your seat. What are you rising on hon member?

 

 

Mr M L SHELEMBE: Sihlalo, ngithi ake ungikhuzele ... [Chairperson, on a point of order ...]

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms Y N Phosa): Hon member, your point of order is not sustained. Proceed, hon Mnguni.

 

UMnu D MNGUNI: Ngulomkhulu wabo lowatsi sive lesimnyama site ingcondvo. Semukwa nemalungelo ekwati tibalo ngobe watsi kute lapho tsine sitatisebentisa khona. Ngaleminyaka nje lengu 22 yembuso welinyenti, labatukulu bakhe sebatifuna ngo dli emanyuvese ngisho nasemantini imbala letibalo. (Translation of Siswati paragraph follows.)

 

 

[Mr D MNGUNI: It is their grandfather who said black people have no brains. We were even stripped off our rights to know

mathematics because he said we won’t use them anywhere. In the mere 22 years of democracy, his generation now want mathematics with so much vigor, from universities and even searching for it under the waters.]

 

 

The black majority capability was really undermined which still exist in the minds of most of the DA members.

 

 

Emandvulo nabefika benta shangatsi bayasitsandza, njengobe benta nanyalo. Emva kwaloko balintjontja live letfu. Basisusa etindzaweni tetfu basifudvulela etindzaweni letite emanti. Safa ticojana lesibangisana ngato netilwane. Sabehlula ngelukhetfo lwanga 1994. Sebabuyile, baboneni-ke bagcoke tikhumba tetimvu letikhuluphele, banemali. Batsi bavoteleni. Tsine singuKhongolose sitsi ningayekenge malula. Anikho endalini la.

Siyawuhlala sinikhatsalela nonkhe. [Kuhlaba Lulwimi.] (Translation of Siswati paragraphs follows.)

 

[In the olden days when they came they pretended to love us, as they are doing now. After that they stole our land. They moved us from our places and pushed us to places with no water. We are tired of water springs that we compete for with animals. We defeated them in the 1994 elections. Now they are back, wearing skins of fat sheep, they have money. They say vote for them. We,

as the ANC are saying you should not be easily misled. You are not in a place of hunger here. We will forever take care of all of you. [Interjections.]]

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms Y N Phosa): Hon member, what are you rising on?

 

 

Mr B M BHANGA: Hon Chair whilst you were listening to the table staff, the hon member – I am very much worried. He said something so wrong, that the children who are sitting there are listening to it. He fails to understand that the NP had a merger with the ANC. Let us teach the children ... [Interjections.]

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms Y N Phosa): Hon member that is not a point of order!

 

 

Mr D MNGUNI: In addressing the above, I focused on the global concept of what constitute appropriate and fit to finance water and sanitation infrastructure development for our evolving democracy. [Interjections.]

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms Y N Phosa): Order! Order! Hon members! Please, don’t drawn the speaker

Mr D MNGUNI: The pertinent question I raised in my address is the extent to which the seven perspectives related to the fit to finance fit in with the work of the department and its entities to be in line with the NDP and the ANC resolutions and manifesto as highlighted in the recent study undertaken by the world water council in 2015 entitled “Water fit to finance” on which the ANC since 1994 was grounded upon.

 

 

The following are issues that strongly permeate the work of the department as applauded by the ANC in its determination of work and strongly embedded in financial considerations, these are: water security; importance of multipurpose water infrastructure; creating an enabling environment; use of competition and innovation; overcoming inefficiency; balancing financial risk and reward, and accessing new and old finance.

 

The ANC welcomes and supports development by the department on water infrastructure development by the allocating of funds over the medium-term to achieve the programme purpose and objectives stressing the importance of sustainable water and sanitation infrastructure over the MTEF.

 

For 2015-16, more than R11 billion has been allocated of the R15 billion; and over 2017-18 more than 12 billion, and for 2018-19

over R13 billion. Siyachuba-ke tsine mhlon [We are moving forward hon] Lion

 

 

Hon Lion, over the medium-term, the portfolio committee agreed that the department should continue to focus on water infrastructure, including raw water infrastructure, such as dams and canals, hon Baker, also reservoirs and pipelines which is budgeted more than 78%of the total budget to achieve the vision 2030.

 

 

To ensure that water is available for households and farmers the ANC supports the department through its implementing agents, to complete two mega projects and 12 large water and wastewater infrastructure projects over the medium-term.

 

These are funded through the regional bulk infrastructure grant, which is allocated R15 billion. There are other examples like over 54 million that has been set aside for Xonxa Dam water supply to Lukhanji municipality in Eastern Cape for 5 2000 households. Over 150 million for the upgrading of the Wolmaransstad wastewater treatment works in the Maquassi Hills municipality in North West for 12 700 households.

Asicamthi-ke tsine la, siyaqhuba. Sishoda ngawe! [Tandla.] Nayo- ke i-EFF ne-DA. Batsi abayivumi lebhajethi. Ngabe batsi kubantfu bakitsi ... [We do not give empty talks here, we are moving forward. We are short of you! [Applause.] There goes the EFF and the DA. They are saying that they reject this budget vote. They should be saying to our people ...]

 

 

... they must have no water, no economic emancipation, no job creation? Shame on them! [Interjections.]

 

 

As I conclude, my principled Minister in consultation with the Minister of Environment, may I draw your attention to the essentiality of also investing in maintaining of ecological infrastructure to add value on water and sanitation built infrastructure in South Africa.

 

 

The recent discussions on the nexus between investment in built infrastructure and ecological infrastructure shows that: Strategic investment in ecological infrastructure lengthens the life of existing built infrastructure – often with significant cost savings and assist to cope with climate change.

Degraded ecological infrastructure leads to reduced capacity and lifespan of dams increasing the cost of their maintenance and increase the cost of funding.

 

Yes, there are challenges facing the water and sanitation infrastructure development programme. But the fact is that post 1994 investment has begun to reshape the South African landscape for the full realisation of the economic and social constitutional rights for all citizens.

 

 

Nine bekunene nitabe solo nitikhukhumeta ngebantfu laba-20 000 kulenkhundla letsatsa bantfu laba-30 000 kule manifesto launch yenu. Nguliphi lelibala belilaphaya. Bebakuphi-ke laba labamhlophe, njengobe nigcwele la nine. Nidlala ngalendlu lemnyama. Ngiyakholwa kutsi bebatihlalele etindlini tabo letinkhulu nasemabhishini babukela ema-TV lamakhulu. Babukela labanntfu bakitsi labamnyama labababita ngekutsi tingobiyane netimfene, babhizi bashiswa lilanga.

 

 

Namuhla-ke nalelijaji lelingu Mabel Jansen liyengeta litsi kubantfu labamnyama kugcwele badlwenguli. Labanye benu banikwe netimali base bayakhuluma batsi: (Translation of Siswati paragraphs follows.)

[Ladies and gentlemen you will continue being proud of 20 000 people in this stadium, which accommodates 30 000 people in your manifesto launch. What colour was there? Where were the white people as you are all here? You are fooling around with black people. I believe that they were relaxing in their big houses and in the beaches watching big TVs. Watching our black people whom they call baboons and monkeys, busy and being burnt by the sun.

 

 

Even judge Mabel Jansen today is adding on, saying that there are so many rapists among the black people. Some of you we given money and they started saying:]

 

 

We want change! What change? Change from what? [Interjections.] From good to where? Back to the sufferings and the things that you are doing today!

 

 

Hhayi, bantfu bakitsi dlanini leyo mali. Niyati lapho nichamuka khona. Iseyindze lendlela. Tsatsa imali uvotele Khongolose! [No, our people spend that money. You know where you come from. The road is still long. Take the money and vote for the ANC!]

Tsatsa imali! [Take the money!]

 

 

Hon MEMBERS: Vote for ANC!

The less I say about you EFF the better. You have moved from hatred of not only the ANC and its individuals but the entire people you claim to be representing. You know; anger is like flowing water, which I presume to be normal, as long as it flows. It’s just that it denies itself freedom to flow. But hatred which you, EFF, posses is like stagnant water. You know, the stagnant water is likely to have the following: becoming dirty, stinky, disease redden, poisonous or deadly.

 

 

You are chaotic, rejecting every progress; violent and most of all, lack the African and God given principle, respect, hon Khawula, with the DA imitating you lately. Nibadzala man! (You are too old for that, man.) We are aware of this wedge driver. We are watching your poisonous tongue as Oliver Tambo once warned us of people like you. You have trouble waters.

 

 

My fellow South Africans; Oliver Tambo once said in the ANC 48th National conference in Durban: We did not tear ourselves apart because of the lack of progress at times. We were ready to accept our mistakes, and most importantly correct them. Above all we succeeded to foster and defend the unity of the ANC and our people in general. My fellow South Africans, do not despair. Qhuba ANC qhuba! [Interjections.]

Sishoda ngawe Mprofeti; sishoda ngawe Mfundisi; sishoda ngawe sangoma; sishoda ngawe ekhaya; sishoda ngawe emkhukhwini; sishoda ngawe edolobheni; sishoda ngawe etaksini; sishoda ngawe ejele; sishoda ngawe emayini; sishoda ngawe eyunivesithi!

Khongolose usebentile! Khongolose uyasebenta! Khongolose usetawusebenta ... [Kwaphela Sikhatsi.] [Tandla.] Ngiyabonga kakhulu. (Translation of Siswati paragraph follows.)

 

 

[We are short of you Prophet; we are short of you Reverend; we are short of you sangoma; we are short of you at home; we are short of you in the shack; we are short of you in prison; we are short of you in the mines; we are short of you at the university! The ANC has worked! The ANC is working! The ANC is still going to work ... [Time expired.] [Applause.] Thank you very much.

 

The MINISTER OF WATER AND SANITATION: Hon Chairperson, I want to address myself to some of the issues that have been positively presented here through the chair of the portfolio committee and other hon members. Yes indeed, we never said that we will do a miracle within a period of 22 years. We committed ourselves that we will never rest until South Africa is free both socially and economically. And that we also believe in the notion that South Africa belongs to all those who live in it.

Hence some of our interventions in this province where you are resisting to declare some of the informal settlements, formal townships and hence you are not serving them, you are serving the minority that is out in the suburbs and forget about Khayelitsha and Side C. [Interjections.] You are amongst those who are resisting an appreciation that things are better compared to how they were some years ago.

 

 

Many of you will carry placards of black people, Africans because you see us as objects. Shame on you! [Interjections.] Remember, there is a big difference now when you see those young stars and elderly people carrying water, it is happening because we have at least we tried to bring water closer compared to what you have done here in the Eastern Cape.

 

The CHAIRPERSON (Mr C T Frolick): Order, hon members!

 

 

 

The MINISTER OF WATER AND SANITATION: Giving people buckets as a form of toilet and expect them to sleep in the house with that. Shame on you! [Interjections.]

 

 

I really want to also indicate that amongst other things, why we have contamination of own sewerage system and spillages; it is because we no longer have an influx control. Our people are at

liberty from moving from one part of the country to the other and hence rapid urbanisation.

 

 

Your separate development that is being perpetuated in Midvaal, is the one that will make your green and blue drop look better and yet it is at the expense of the African child. [Interjections.] Shame on you!

 

 

We want to also remind you that amongst other things that we are now dealing with; is the incapacity that has been there in the State because yours was about serving a minority over the majority. We will transform this sector and bring black industrialists and professionals who must come and work and most importantly we will direct our resources where they are highly needed.

 

Hon member Baker, tell no lies claim no easy victories. In an area called Mashonamini Village in Mkhuhlu in Bushbuckridge, hon Deputy Minister Madala Masuku comes from that area. Today they have clean water including fire hydrants to make that village a better village where people can live peacefully and there can be prosperity, compared to what you are doing in the Midvaal, where you continue to keep our people living and eating with pigs

because you want to maintain the dominance of the DA in that area.

 

 

The other thing that I want to talk about ...

 

 

The CHAIRPERSON (Mr C T Frolick): Order, hon member!

 

 

 

The MINISTER OF WATER AND SANITATION: ... yes, every time we empower a black business, we are told we are lining our pockets. Time has come that we not only rely on the capacity of white- owned big companies.

 

 

The CHAIRPERSON (Mr C T Frolick): Order, hon member! Hon member contain yourself!

 

The MINISTER OF WATER AND SANITATION: We will give the young, we will give women, we will give black-owned companies known or unknown by you to be the once that are going to now deliver in this particular sector. Call it lining our pockets; it is time for us to create wealth amongst our own black people. We are not shy about that. It is time for us to empower women and we are not shy about that. Call it lining our pocket it will be up to you to continue saying that!

The CHAIRPERSON (Mr C T Frolick): Order, hon member!

 

 

The MINISTER OF WATER AND SANITATION: It is time for the African people to be involved in the construction and not only in the consumption of water.

 

 

As I conclude, I also want to remind ubaba uShelembe ukuthi laphayana KwaZulu kunje kunempucuko. [Mr Shelembe that there in Zululand there is civilisation.] It is because of our Regional Bulk Infrastructure Grant, RBIG, projects. We have bailed you out in that area because we care for every South African. South Africa belongs to all those who live in it.

 

 

Mama uKhawula, ngenhlonipho nangomoya wesonto, uyazi ukuthi lezi zindawo okhuluma ngazo ukuthi yizindawo obekuyizindawo zabantu lapho intuthuko beyingekho khona. Siyasebenza khona manje. (Translation of isiZulu paragraph follows.)

 

 

[Hon Khawula, with all due respect and the spirit of church going people, you know that these areas that you referred to are the areas that were previously set aside for rural people where there was no development. We are working now.]

And in fact the lie that it is only the DA controlled municipalities that are doing good. EThekwini is one amongst the best and it has been assessed independently and worldwide that it is. What I have to tell you. We will never tire serving our people and we know that we are all by ourselves!

 

The CHAIRPERSON (Mr C T Frolick): Order, hon member!

 

 

 

The MINISTER OF WATER AND SANITATION: Hon member Mr Basson, I dare say to you, show me Mrs Van Niekerk who is getting water in the way that you have shown us Mrs Shabalala racist attitude and exploitation of our people. We will work and we know that we are alone and we hope the electorate knows! It is only the ANC that can bring a better life to South Africa. Dankie. Ngiyabonga. [Thank you.] [Applause.] [Time expired.]

 

The CHAIRPERSON (Mr C T Frolick): Order, hon members! Hon members, hon members, this is a debate. Do not allow your emotions to run away with you. Be in control of yourselves. I cannot control you. Your emotions belong to you. Order! Members are reminded that the debate of Budget Vote on Energy will take place at two o’clock in the National Assembly and the debate on the Budget Vote on Defence and Military Veterans will take place in the Old Assembly Chamber. That concludes the debate and the

business of this Extended Public Committee. The committee will now rise!

 

 

Debate concluded at 11:52.

 


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