Hansard: NA: Unrevised hansard

House: National Assembly

Date of Meeting: 24 Oct 2019

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UNREVISED HANSARD

 

THURSDAY, 24 OCTOBER 2019

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PROCEEDINGS OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY

 

 

The House met at 14:01.

 

House Chairperson Mr M L D Ntombela took the Chair and requested members to observe a moment of silence for prayer or meditation

 

The CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: Hon House

 

Chairperson, hon members in this august House allow me

 

...

 

IsiXhosa:

 

...ukuba ndiphakamise lo mpoposho uthi le Ndlu

 

 

(1) mayiqaphele ngosizi olukhulu ukusweleka kabuhlungu ngesaquphe kukaSekela Mphathiswa weziMbiwa naMandla uNksz uBavelile Gloria Hlongwa, kwingozi yemoto kuhola wendlela uN1 evela ePolokwane

 

 

ngoLwesihlanu umhla we-13 kweyoMsintsi kulo nyaka uphezulu.

 

 

(2) iqaphele kwakhona ukuba imoto kaSekela Mphathiswa uHlongwa ibimisile kufutshane nendlela ezama ukunceda nokuhlangula abo basengozini.

 

 

(3) iqonde ukuba ngeli xesha lengozi uNksz Hlongwa ebebuya kwimibhiyozo yeminyaka engama-75 nakwisikolo sopolitiko sePhiko loLutsha lwe-ANC ebibanjelwe kwiyunivesithi yaseLimpopo ngalo Lwesihlanu.

 

 

(4) iqonde ukuba le nzawakazi uBV njengoko ebebizwa kwaye esaziwa ngolo hlobo, wonyulwa njengoSekela Mphathiswa weziMbiwa naMandla nguMongameli utata uCyril Ramaphosa kwekwaCanzibe kulo nyaka uphezulu.

 

 

(5) iqaphele kwakhona ukuba phambi kokuba onyulwe usebenze njengoSekela Sihlalo omkhulu kwi-arhente yophuhliso loluntu. Ebelilungu lekomiti ephezulu yePhiko loLutsha lombutho we-ANC.

 

 

 

 

(6) ikhumbule kananjalo ukuba ufunde kwikholeji i- Howard kwiYunivesithi yakwaZulu-Natal apho waphumelela khona imfundo enomsila kwezobuchwephesha.

 

 

(7) ikholelwa ukuba oku kusweleka kukaNksz Hlongwa kothuse wonke umzi kakhulu walila awathula, kuba ebeselula esaze ngobuso elizweni kwaye enetalente. Bekusithiwa lo nguMphathiswa wenene okhutheleyo.

 

 

(8) iqhubeke ikholelwa ukuba oku kusweleka ngesaquphe kukaNksz Hlongwa kushiye isithuba esikhulu phakathi kombutho wakhe, amaqabane akhe, izihlobo nezalamane nabazali bakhe abakhoyo apha, umama uMaNzuza oodade wabo kunye nabantwana bakhe.

 

 

(9) ivakalisa olo velwano lungazenzisiyo ngelithi, wanga umphefumlo wakhe ungaphumla ngoxolo aze athi xa kuvukwa avuke naye kwabafileyo. Ndiyabulela. Ndiphakamisa ngolo hlobo.

 

 

Debate concluded.

 

 

 

 

Agreed to, members standing.

 

 

MOTION OF CONDOLENCE

 

 

 

(The late Deputy Minister of Mineral Resources and Energy, Ms Bavelile Gloria Hlongwa)

 

 

The MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES AND ENERGY: Hon House

 

Chairperson, Chief Whip of the Majority Party, leaders of the various parties in the House, the Hlongwa family...

 

 

IsiXhosa:

 

... siyanihlonipha nonke kwaye siyavuya ukuba nibe nilapha.

 

 

English:

 

 

Death is a strange thing because it brings about anxiety, sorrow, emotional pain but it can also be a source of celebration. In the case of Bavelile Hlongwa we should celebrate life that has been lived to the

 

 

fullest. Young as she was, she has shown her ability to the world and therefore it is nice to celebrate. One person said to me that she was very young. I worked with her and I asked this Christian how old was Jesus Christ when he passed on? They answered that he was 33 years old and I said he was younger than Bavelile. So, Bavelile at 38 had lived life to the fullest therefore it is worth for us to celebrate her life.

 

 

It was Friday 13 September in the evening when Bavelile met her untimely death. She stopped to help other people who were in an accident and a truck ran over her and two others in the same accident. As a soldier, we need to celebrate that because she died in her boots and left us too soon. As a department, we are enjoying her vibrancy and her energy. She was full of energy and very vibrant. Every time she opens her mouth you could not doubt the content and we loved her uprightness which was unique and empowering.

 

 

Her liking to speak in areas where she was knowledgeable she would describe herself as the engineer in her refusing to agree. When she disagrees with you...

 

 

 

 

IsiXhosa:

 

Mama uNkosazana, uza kuhlala emadevini. Xa ekuhlala emadevini uthetha uthetha...

 

 

English:

 

... and then you will have to tell her to cool off. Her keenness to be part of the solution to challenges facing government was quite exciting. I would imagine that my Cabinet colleagues would remember the Cabinet meeting of that week. In that meeting she spoke, refused to be suppressed and expressed her views non-stop. That is Bavelile for you.

 

 

I can assure you that women, children and people with disabilities have lost an ambassador. On every discussion she would factor in the cause of women, young people and the cause of people with disabilities. I hope we would discover more who would stand for that cause. I always describe her as having madness like me because I am a little mad sometimes.

 

 

Hon MEMBER: All the time.

 

 

 

 

The MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES AND ENERGY: Ooh, all

 

the time? Okay. No, let us say sometimes, it cannot be all the time. What I liked with that madness is that she would say things as she saw them irrespective of the company she was in. If it is red, it is red; if it black, it is black and she would not say it does not look white.

 

 

That madness was a unique gift and she hated mediocrity that is widespread in public service. She had a sense of urgency in executing any task allocated to her. If you were mediocre she would not say you are not performing but would say this mediocrity is not going to take us anywhere. Why are these entities that should be making money and declare dividends to the government are asking for bailouts? That is what she asked us regularly because we are running a lot of entities in the department.

 

 

She did not understand as to why entities that should be declaring dividends to government were asking for bailouts? The way she had a sense of urgency it seems as

 

 

if she knew that her life was going to be short but her death should not have been this tragic. In cases of talking about death, I like referring to David. I know many people like referring to Job but I prefer to refer to David. He teaches us to realise the brevity of life so that we may grow in wisdom. It is a very important and fundamental expression. He teaches us to number our days so that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.

 

 

When you are a young person and you do your work as if you know that your days are numbered and you do not know how they are counted. So, that urgency is quite important. The day Bavelile passed on we were finishing the delegations in the department. Let me tell you that we have agreed with delegations. We had agreed on one criterion that anything that requires somebody to run around would be given to the Deputy Minister. This was because she had energy and I told her that I am old; cannot run around.

 

 

We agreed that she would do the following: monitoring and evaluation; community outreach; social labour plans; unclaimed earnings of miners; and the rehabilitation of

 

 

the derelict ownerless mines and enforcement. So, that is what we agreed on and I was delegated by her to do the broad departmental work policies and following through on the issues.

 

 

Unfortunately, I do not have a deputy for now and I may not give the same delegation to that new deputy depending on the energy that deputy will have. [Laughter.] If you are given a deputy which does not have energy it does not help giving same delegation to that deputy and collapse the work. That is where we are.

 

 

IsiXhosa:

 

Abantu bakwaHlongwa mabazincome ngokuba besinike lo mntwana wabo, wasebenza wada wabe uswelekela emsebenzini. Bendimbiza umafungwashe.

 

 

English:

 

This name refers to your first born girl child. The reason for that is that Bavelile was born on the same year as my first born girl child. So, our relationship was a father and a daughter only when she accepts that. When she want to engage she refused to be a daughter and

 

 

called me a colleague and I have to emphasise to her that...

IsiXhosa:

 

... Bavelile, andinguye ugxa wabantwana, ndincede, ndingutata ebantwaneni. [Kwahlekwa.] Xa echulumancile uye ayamkele loo nto leyo kodwa ngelinye ixesha athi...

 

 

English:

 

... we are deployed here together by the ANC, we must share responsibilities and it is not your department. That is the kind of the person we are talking about. It is a pity that we do not get asked on who take and who to leave behind. One chap from Mthatha wrote on Facebook that:

 

 

IsiXhosa:

 

Angabhubha njani uBavelile? Nokuba bekubhubhe uGwede kuba mdala kakade. UBavelile usemncinci gqitha.

 

 

[Kwahlekwa.]

 

 

English:

 

 

Now, I have to accept that because it is an observation and not a reality. I am here; I am still alive. I can tell all of you that those who remember the day we were allocated these deputies, one member here asked me...

 

 

IsiXhosa:

 

... niza kusebenza njani noBavelile ingathi niphambene ngokufanayo nje?

 

 

English:

 

Then I told her that the only person who can work with Bavelile is me because I am comfortable in my skin and I will not try to suppress her. I am going to give her a space to display her engineering capabilities. [Applause.] That is what we did and in three months that we were together I was convinced that our department was going to be one of the model departments in the sixth administration. It is bad, though to regret death. We must accept that time has come for her to pass on because verily:

 

 

I say unto you that there shall not be stone left here, one stone upon another that shall not be thrown down.

 

 

IsiXhosa:

 

Akusayi kusala litye phezu kwelitye, elingayi kuchithwa.

 

 

English:

 

So, all of us we are going to walk on the same journey. It is just a matter of time.

 

 

IsiXhosa:

 

Lala kakuhle Bavelile kwaye siyayivuyela into yokuba usebenze nathi.

 

 

English:

 

It was a privilege that was given to us by God. Thank you. [Applause.]

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSN (Mr M L D NTOMBELA): Hon members,

 

may I take this opportunity to recognise the Hlongwa family, the mother, MaNzuza, brother, three sisters and

 

 

the helpers. I also would like to take this opportunity, on behalf of the Presiding Officers, and pass our heartfelt condolences to the family.

 

 

Mr K J MILEHAM: House Chairperson, hon members, colleagues, friends and families of Bavelile Hlongwa, when we learnt of the devastating news that the Deputy Minister of Mineral Resources and Energy had passed away tragically, it came as a utter sense of disbelief. Just two days before, the Portfolio Committee of Mineral Resources and Energy had a very constructive engagement with the late Deputy Minister in the room above us, E249. We had been discussing the problems at the Central Energy Fund, PetroSA and the Strategic Fuel Fund. These were entities in which the Deputy Minister had taken a particular interest as her qualifications and experience as a chemical engineer working in the petroleum sector, had given her unique insight into the challenges the sector faced. Our interactions were robust, and we didn't always agree. But Bavelile Hlongwa was someone who could disarm you with a friendly smile or a friendly smile or a kind word. And even when we disagreed, we did so in a collegial manner.

 

 

 

 

Just after the meeting I referred to, she came up to me and we chatted briefly before parting on very amicable terms. She had come to give me her word that the department of energy would investigate the concerns I had raised and that they would be open and transparent in her dealings with me and the other members of the portfolio committee.

 

 

In the short time she was with us in Parliament, from just May this year, it was clear that Bavelile Hlongwa was a rising star in both, her political party, the ANC, and more broadly in South African politics.

 

 

Not only did she bring much-needed technical knowledge to the portfolio, but she brought an energy and dynamism that was felt by all who interacted with her. We had been looking forward to many more fruitful and beneficial engagements with her. Her skills and knowledge were acknowledged and recognised by her peers who elected her to represent them on the board of the SA Institute of Chemical Engineers in KwaZulu-Natal, an entity she later served as treasurer. She was also a

 

 

vocal advocate of youth issues, and had served as president of the students’ representative council, SRC, at the University of KwaZulu-Natal and later as the deputy chairperson of the National Youth Development Agency.

Bavelile Hlongwa was committed to her country and its people. Indeed, the very manner of her passing while helping others on the side of the road, was indicative of her caring and compassionate nature. She was young, talented, dynamic and had a bubbly personality. In short, she was the future that South Africa could be. Her bright future and demonstrated potential were cut tragically short, and she will be sorely missed both in Parliament and without.

 

 

The DA extends its heartfelt condolences to the family and loved ones of the Deputy Minister Bavelile Hlongwa, and to her political home, the ANC. May her soul rest in peace. “Hamba kahle, Bavelile Hlongwa!” [Fare well, Bavelile Hlongwa!”] [Applause.]

 

 

Dr S Z THEMBEKWAYO: Chairperson, allow me to acknowledge the presence of the Hlongwa family who are present with

 

 

us today. And allow me to pass a word of condolence a word of condolence to the family and friends of the late Ms Bavelille Gloria Hlongwa on behalf of the EFF. We as the EFF were saddened by the untimely passing away of Ms Bavelile Gloria Hlongwa who was popularly known as Comrade BV. We are sharing in sadness as we remember her. We knew her for a short period of time though her contributions in the Ministry of Minerals and Energy were immense and would have brought an impactful change to South Africa as a whole. Remembering what a wonderful and energetic person she was all the time including the remarkable life had and that which lied ahead of her.

She cared for the community and all people in South Africa as it is evidenced by the way she met her untimely death. You have touched so many lives for the good. Our hon deputy secretary-general, DSG, hon Hlengiwe Mkhalipi and hon Dumisani Mthenjane, had an opportunity to attend the funeral.

 

 

To the family your daughter, your mother and your sister was a blessing to so many people and we are grateful that we had a chance to know her as a colleague and we will forever cherish that moment. We know we cannot take

 

 

away the pain, but we are deeply sorry for the loss and wishing you moments of peace and comfort as you remember her. A letter from heaven by Comrade BV:

 

 

Right now as I am in a better place, and though we seem apart, I am closer than ever I was to you. I am inside your heart. I am with you when you greet each other as a family while the sun shine bright. Just look inside your loving heart and you will find me right there. For every time you think of me, I am right there in your heart with you. Don’t worry about me, I am with the Lord in heaven right now. I have asked the Lord to heal the hurt. I hope it helps to know I will be waiting for you. Remember me with a smile.

 

 

May your soul rest in revolutionary peace! Thank you. [Applause.]

 

 

Ms Z MAJOZI: Hon Chairperson, allow me to acknowledge the family of Hlongwa and also the staff that she worked with in the Department of Energy and Mineral Resources. I stand before this House as a representative of the IFP

 

 

to convey our deepest condolences and sympathies to the family, friends and comrades of B V.

 

 

My relationship with B V transcends party lines. I didn’t come to know her from the chambers in Parliament. It also never mattered that she was in the ANC and I served in the IFP. We served together on the Board of National Youth Development Agency, NYDA.

 

 

B V or Shorty, like I used to call her, was like the older sister I never had, she was my confidant, a good friend and comrade, she always had my back — and I had hers. She was also my work-sister when we both served in the Board of the NYDA. In fact, I remember that B V was the first person to congratulate me on my appointment to the board while we were busy with elections at Nquthu.

 

 

I also recall a time when she was only seen in her jeans and snickers outfits. I would wonder what is wrong with this lady! She even came to meetings dressed like an activist. She would voice out and say ...

 

 

IsiZulu:

 

 

Hhayi mtwana! Hhayi wena uyabonakala ukuthi ...

 

 

English:

 

... you are from Soweto. You always dressed up and you know how to put on your lipstick. And I ended up showing her how to put on a lipstick and applying a make-up and in turn, she would show me the light when I needed it the most and when I went through some difficulty.

 

 

We also used to laugh about the smallest things and we used to cry about the same things. B V touched my spirit and she did with many others who had the fortune of crossing paths with her. B V sacrificed so much of herself by serving others. Her kind hearted nature and Spirit of Ubuntu was beyond any other person I know.

 

 

We once fought for two years over a little boy who she wanted to be the primary caregiver for — little William. I was in Mpumalanga and called her informing her about my experience with the kids I met and that I wanted to adopt one of them which was William. She then told me over the phone, “You will never take William from me, that is my child!”

 

 

 

 

She also taught me that in life you will not change the world but what you can do is to change someone’s life. A year, if you could adopt one young person and change that person’s life. [Applause.] She gave so much love, she cared so much and that is why we are still mourning and our country is still in mourning because of such a tragic circumstance robbed this earth of one of the most dynamic, passionate, kind, loving and humble servant of the people.

 

 

The most ironic part of her passing is the fact that despite having lived a healthy lifestyle, she ate gluten-free foods and she was also an all-round healthy individual. Her untimely death was not health related.

It is a lesson we should all be mindful of. Although the news of her passing came with such shock, she died the way she lived — always in the service of others.

 

 

To all those she has left behind, I know you miss her the same way I miss her. We just have to pick up the phone and tell her what’s been happening, I miss hearing her voice and hearing her laugh, I miss her warm hugs

 

 

when life seemed cold. I miss you B V. I miss you and our country misses you too.

 

 

She shined like a diamond; she glorified God as a true Christian. I would like quote this verse for the family.

2 Corinthians 4:8-10. “We are hard-pressed on every side but not crushed; perplexed, but not in

despair; persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed. We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body.” May her soul rest in eternal peace. Thank you. [Applause.]

 

 

Dr C P MULDER: Chairperson, after our colleague from the IFP, we could almost close this debate. She spoke from her heart, she knew the colleague and I agree with each and every word that she said. I want to congratulate her on an excellent contribution.

 

 

Life is a journey, it is a race. None of us know how long our race or our personal journey in life would be. In this instance of our colleague, her journey was - in terms of how we as humans perceive it, it was a short

 

 

race. Our colleague was not a member of this House for very long and it is quite sad that her parents and her family are here today under these circumstances. They should have in years to come, in the gallery to celebrate her achievements and the things that she would have achieved in her career in Parliament. That did not happen.

 

 

I would like to express our sincere condolences to her family. For us today, this is a debate, after this debate we will continue with our work but, they will return home ... For them, it will remain a reality for the rest of their lives that they have lost a dear family member.

 

 

I want express our condolences to the ANC who have lost a colleague. And it is always very difficult – this colleague of ours who at the beginning of a wonderful career, she was a young person, a young person who made great strides in Parliament in the short time that she was here and she was destined to have a wonderful career in politics.

 

 

What happened to her is something that could happen to anyone of us and it happens quite often. She, from the goodness of her heart stopped to assist people that were in an accident and then under those circumstances quite often people are so focused in terms of helping that they understand or realise that other people don’t know about this accident they are driving at a high speed into that situation. It is tragic, but it happens.

 

 

I have started off by saying that life is a journey, it is almost like a race. Then it’s quite appropriate that on this obituary of our colleague the last paragraph ends with a verse from the bible 2 Timothy 4:7, ESV:

 

 

I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Our condolences. [Applause.]

 

 

Mr S N SWART: House Chair, on behalf of the ACDP, I would like to express our deepest condolences to the family, friends of the late Deputy Minister, hon B V Gloria Hlongwa, as well as to the families of the four people who also died tragically in the same accident.

 

 

Other members have eloquently spoken about the hon Hlongwa’s youthfulness, skills and knowledge and we support the sentiments that have been expressed.

 

 

We were deeply shocked when we heard the tragic

 

news of her passing and it is significant that she had stopped to assist another at an accident scene, when a truck crashed into her vehicle. She died helping others.

 

 

This accident also illustrates how vulnerable we as Members of Parliament, Deputy Ministers and Ministers can be as we travel frequently on oversight and other trips.

 

 

We must do more to ensure the safety of our members  and all citizens on the roads. We need to pray more and we need to take action to ensure safety.

 

 

Minister Mantashe quoted Psalms:

 

 

Our days are numbered. Yes life is indeed short. James

 

4 teaches us that our lives are like the morning fog —

 

 

it’s here a little while, then it is gone. Life is indeed fleeting — as we again see with this tragedy.

 

 

There are no guarantees about tomorrow, let alone next year, or in five or ten years. If we ignore this lesson, we will not live our life properly in the light of eternity. We need to make our plans and live our lives according to God’s commands and purposes — and to make sure that we are in a right relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ and have repented of our sins.

 

 

Life is short and death is a certainty. Make sure that we emulate the hon B V Gloria to spread love, forgiveness and reconciliation wherever we go and this House our nation is desperate for this.

 

 

I would also encourage members in this Parliament to support and to pray for one another. There is a prayer group. The hon Kate Bilankulu and Magoshi Dikgale and the ANC’s Deputy Chief Whip. Let us pray for one another, let us stand together. Yes, we differ politically often but it is time for us to hesitate for a moment and let this life mean something to us. We

 

 

rejoice in the fact that she is with the lord Jesus Christ.

 

 

To conclude, we in the ACDP, we pray that our heavenly father will surround the Hlongwa family and friends and the ANC, with his love and peace at this time. Let us remember malibongwe igama lenkosi. Praise the name of the lord. I thank you.

 

 

Mr V ZUNGULA: House Chairperson, today we are celebrating the life of a servant — a servant of the people who served the country well.

 

 

My sister, Bavelile Hlonga, served in many leadership positions where she was exposed to working with a number of people who characterised her as a lady of stature, poise and elegance, and who most importantly possessed the values of ubuntu.

 

 

Hon Hlongwa passed away whilst assisting victims of a car crash. It comes as no surprise that her last act was an act of bravery, kindness and ubuntu.

 

 

The ATM offers heartfelt condolences to her family as well as the ANC comrades. We hope that all South Africans will embody the very principles that hon Hlongwa embodied in her life and will leave this world a better place than we found it. We have such responsibilities as leaders of this nation.

 

 

IsiXhosa:

 

IGenesis 15 ivesi ye-15 uthi: Ke wena uyakuya kooyihlo unoxolo; ungcwatywe uyingwevu enkulu. Xa umamela esi sibhalo sithetha ngomntu osebenzileyo waza wawugqiba umsebenzi wakhe. Sithi namhlanje makalale ngoxolo.

Enkosi.

 

 

The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS AND INFRASTRUCTURE: Hon

 

House Chairperson, on behalf of GOOD, to the family present here today, all the friends and the ANC, please accept our deep condolences with the passing of a colleague.

 

 

I first met B V when we received our induction as Ministers and Deputy Ministers; we were sitting next to each other. It struck me immediately her inquisitive

 

 

mind and how she asked so many questions without being afraid; almost on every topic she asked a question.

 

 

So, in the short-term I knew the Deputy Minister I could see the positive impact she had made on the department and indeed on the whole of the executive. She was an example of a real good South African who gave everything to her people and country, and especially the youth.

In every debate about any topic she asked “How is it going to benefit young people?” She also was a real champion for young people in our country; for all young South Africans.

 

 

I saw in one of the tributes, President Ramaphosa described her as a promising and principled leader who was never shy about expressing her views. It was very sad to hear the news of her passing. But to honour hon B V, it is now upon all of us, young and old, to try and live our lives the way she lived hers. We are here to serve others until we are no more. Hamba kahle [Go well] my sister.

 

 

Mr C H M SIBISI: We are assembled here to pay tribute to a leader – a woman who dedicated her entire life to the people of South Africa — Deputy Minister, Ms Bavelile Hlongwa. On behalf of the NFP we extend our heartfelt condolences to the family of the Deputy Minister and the ANC.

 

 

We are indeed saddened by the loss of such a young dynamic black female leader with great achievements under her name. She will not be forgotten and her resilience will indeed encourage many young women to enter into the political space.

 

 

We believe that women create a healthier political climate and a loss of a dynamic and experienced young woman like Bavelile Hlongwa will not go unnoticed.

 

 

Unfortunately, we did not have a chance to engage in discussion for me to have a chance to hear her hopes and dreams for South Africa, but I do know that she was committed to creating a better life for all South Africans. It is reported that in her last hours she assisted those who needed help.

 

 

 

 

May we continue and aspire to embodying the heart of servant leadership — the importance of serving the people of South Africa with integrity and honesty like Ms Hlongwa did.

 

 

Ms Hlongwa made her family and colleagues proud. May they continue her legacy and may we, as Members of Parliament, open this space for more young women to serve and lead this nation.

 

 

We also extend our condolences to the family and friends of the four people who passed away.

 

 

Ralph Waldo Emerson said, and I quote: “It is not length of life, but depth of life.” As the NFP we acknowledge the hard work and dedication Ms Hlongwa rendered in serving the country, and may her legacy continue to inspire the current and next generation of leaders.

Thank you. [Applause.]

 

 

Mr L M NTSHAYISA: House Chairperson, as the AIC we convey our condolences to the family of the deceased

 

 

former Deputy Minister. It was not easy to believe that she had died. We really appreciate the contribution that she made to the government of this country; she was such a diligent and an energetic member of the Cabinet. She died at the time when we needed her most.

 

 

She was one of the possible qualities among the women of our country. Her death was a great loss not only to her family and the ANC but to all of us. The fact that she died while she was trying to save lives means a lot. She was always prepared to assist.

 

 

However, she could not have avoided her day; her name had been called and she had to respond positively. Of course no one is meant to live forever; we all have our days to depart for the better world. Therefore, be comforted and find closure in all of this; you are not alone.

 

 

We hope that we shall meet her as promised by the Almighty. We are all in the queue to the grave, but she apparently jumped the queue because she was still very young – we didn’t expect her to die.

 

 

 

 

Those whom God love die young. Of course even the elderly people die, but young in the sense that she had a good heart and not in terms of age.

 

 

IsiZulu:

 

Ngakhoke, isitsha esihle asidleli.

 

 

English: 14:44

 

If I can just quote Shakespeare although I am against what the quote says: “The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones.”

 

 

So, we are going to remember her. We are not going to remember the bad that she did but the good. That is why I said I am against Shakespeare when he says that we should bury the good and remember the bad. May her soul rest in peace. Thank you.

 

 

Mr W M MADISHA: Thank you very much. House Chairperson, the family of the late hon Bavelile and the ANC, her party, we say that we are very sorry about what has happened.

 

 

 

 

Hon members, death is very cruel, though we all shall go one day. Whichever realm of existence we are from and from whichever political milieu we are from, however different, we are one. She died at a very young age. I checked her past, saw what she studied, and passed of course. ... that she was an engineer and relevant to the department she was appointed in. ... that she was still studying, although she was in what others may enjoy as a comfortable position. She was still going on and ... actually prepared to help as many people as it is possible on earth.

 

 

Positions she occupied show the capacity she had. As she grew she had occupied many positions but she never said, because I’ve gone through these positions and because I have been a leader here and there, I am up there. She still went on, came here and said, I am available.

 

 

She went out there and when she died she was helping other people. She did not say, I am the Deputy Minister

... I’m passing. People are there. They are dead. Trucks

 

 

are coming ... very terrible roads. She went on and said, I am assisting, and unfortunately she died.

 

 

Like Jesus Christ, she died helping and these are things that we need not forget. I hope that wherever we are seated and however different we may think we are, it is a fact that we are one. Here as we sit, sent of course by the people of South Africa, we are one. We shall embrace one another and cry together, and say, this daughter of the soil is gone. She was our daughter, she was our sister and together with her we shall go one day. [Applause.]

 

 

Mr M NYHONTSO: House Chairperson, as the PAC we convey our heartfelt condolences to the Hlongwa family and her organisation, the ANC.

 

 

Public administration is robbed and the entire political arena is robbed. The prosperity of our young people will never be the same, for your departure has left a gap in their lives. The PAC had hoped that a young leader of your calibre would transform the inequalities within the department. We need more representation of African

 

 

people, and youthful leadership of your calibre would have helped in that regard.

 

 

Farewell daughter of the soil. Pass our revolutionary greetings to our fallen heroes. Tell them we shall carry forth the baton.

 

 

IsiZulu:

 

Alwehlanga lungehlanga.

 

 

Arabic:

 

Mr M G E HENDRICKS: A'udhu billahi minash shaitanir rajim. Bismillahir rahmanir Rahim.

 

 

English:

 

Al Jama-ah was really moved by the outpouring of grief and the celebration of Comrade BV, the Deputy Minister’s life when it was presented at the funeral. We would like to thank the ANC and the government for their part, so that we could participate in the befitting funeral and farewell.

 

 

South Africa and the African continent has lost a martyr; like the Minister said, a combatant serving beyond her duty. We must learn from her dedication, inspired by the ideology that we should embrace.

 

 

Al Jama-ah once again extends our deepest condolences to her family, friends, colleagues and the South African community. Thank you to mama in the gallery, and the family, for attending this session of Parliament, which Al Jama-ah really appreciates. You gave South Africa its greatest daughter in the service of the country. [Applause.]

 

 

HON MEMBERS: Malibongwe! Malibongwe! [Applause.]

 

 

The MINISTER OF CO-OPERATIVE GOVERNANCE AND TRADITIONAL

 

AFFAIRS: Thank you very much hon members and a special greeting to the Hlongwa family.

 

 

I think today is another sad day where we remember Bavelile, but we must indeed celebrate her life. I just want to say a few things about her. I worked with her when she was in the National Youth Development Agency,

 

 

NYDA. She reported to me when I was in the Presidency. I worked with her in the ANC but I just want to give you a picture of the day she died.

 

 

I was with her from that morning and I left at about 15h30. I left them to continue in Limpopo. She was just very happy on that day, more than she usually was; very vibrant. When the choir sang she stood up and sang with the choir. She was just, somehow, extraordinarily happy.

 

 

At lunchtime she was the same. She moved from this table taking photos. It was like she was saying goodbye but none of us were aware. I remember one of my daughters said to her, BV, please send me the photos that you took with your camera, and she said, okay, I’ll send them now, now, now, because if I don’t send them now I’ll never send them again. We all laughed. We didn’t think there was anything. I think she also didn’t know what she meant.

 

 

So, just before I left I asked her, are you staying or are you sleeping over? She said, no I’ll stay for the youth thing but I’ll go, and my daughter said, no, I’ll

 

 

sleep over. And ... [Inaudible.] ... Mahambehlala and other comrades were there and it was just such a happy day.

 

 

Again, it was not just a happy day. She was busy with the students ... talking to the students and she was going to be in a youth league event later. So she really died as she lived. She was just the unforgettable Bavelile that we knew.

 

 

I just want to say to the family, you know, you become what you get at home. She was respectful but firm. She was very disciplined but, as the Minister said, sometimes with a bit of madness; but not rude. She was just a very well brought up child. She was a beautiful human being. So I just want to say, Bavelile, look after all of us.

 

 

This debate was also very unifying and I think she would love that because when she helped the people who were in an accident, she didn’t even know who they were or which party they belonged to, but they were human beings to her and she had to help them. I thank you. [Applause.]

 

 

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): Thank you very much, hon Minister. Hon members that concludes the Speaker’s List on this matter. I take it that there are no objections to the motion being adopted? Will members please rise to observe a moment of silence in memory of B Hlongwa.

 

 

May her soul rest in peace. Thank you. Hon members, the presiding officers associate themselves with this motion. The condolences of the House will be conveyed to the Hlongwa family. Thank you very much.

 

 

TIME LIMIT DETERMINED FOR DECLARATION OF VOTE ON BUDGETARY REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION REPORT

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

The Deputy Chief Whip of the Majority Party, on behalf of the Chief Whip of the Majority Party, moved:

 

 

That the House, notwithstanding Rule 108(2) which provides that the time allocated to a member of each

 

 

party for making a declaration of vote must be determined by the Rules Committee taking into account the proportional strength of the parties, limits the time allocated to a member from each party for making a declaration of vote on any Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report to not more than two minutes for the remainder of this annual session.

 

 

Motion agreed to.

 

 

SOUTH AFRICAN CHAPTER OF GLOBAL TB CAUCUS ESTABLISHED

 

 

 

(Draft resolution)

 

 

The Deputy Chief Whip of the Majority Party, on behalf of the Chief Whip of the Majority Party, moved:

 

 

That the House –

 

 

(1) notes that in the fifth Parliament the National Assembly and the National Council of Provinces established the SA Chapter of the Global Tuberculosis, TB, Caucus on 4 September 2018;

 

 

 

 

(2) further notes that the SA Chapter of the Global TB Caucus is intended, amongst others to -

 

 

(a) raise awareness and profile the TB epidemic and support efforts to accelerate the elimination of the disease by 2030 inline with the targets set by the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals; and

 

 

(b) provide a platform to Members of Parliament and members of provincial legislatures to champion the response to TB in the country and in their constituencies, and drive political action to end the disease;

 

 

(3) acknowledges that membership of the SA TB Caucus is on a nonpartisan basis, open to any parliamentarian or legislator in South Africa and is undertaken on a completely voluntary basis; and

 

 

(4) resolves to establish, with the concurrence of the National Council of Provinces, a Joint Committee in

 

 

terms of Joint Rule 142, to be the co-ordinating body for the duration of the sixth Parliament of the SA Chapter of the Global TB Caucus, the Joint Committee to –

 

 

(a) consist of 11 members of the National Assembly and 9 Members of the National Council of Provinces;

 

 

(b) be co-chaired by the Chairperson of the Portfolio Committee on Health in the National Assembly, and the Chairperson of the Select Committee on Health and Social Services in the National Council of Provinces, included in the above composition; and

 

 

(c) exercise those powers in Joint Rule 32 that may assist it in carrying out its task.

 

 

Motion agreed to.

 

 

Mr P P KEETSE: Chairperson, I just want to check if it is parliamentary for old people to be abused like that

 

 

president of the uMkhonto weSizwe Veterans Association, MKVA, who goes around with a register. I think old people must be respected, there are young people who are energetic who can do that ...

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): ... hon member, hon member ... [Inaudible.]

 

 

THE DEPUTY CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: Hon House

 

Chairperson ... Hon House Chairperson.

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): What is your point of order, hon member?

 

 

THE DEPUTY CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: This hon

 

member of the EFF is out of order. We don’t have old members here. We have hon members of this House. He is the Whip, he should know the Rules. We respect each other in this House. We don’t call each other according to our ages. I thank you.

 

 

Ms H O MKHALIPHI: Order, Chair ...

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): ... Can I

 

have hon Shenge just now, I recognize you, hon member.

 

 

Ms H O MKHALIPHI: Okay.

 

 

Prince M G BUTHELEZI: Hon Chairperson and hon members, I think my colleague is very insensitive. The hon member, in fact, lost his limb fighting for our liberation. I think it is very insensitive to actually be flipping of such things. [Applause.]

 

 

Ms H O MKHALIPHI: Chairperson, can the secretary of the youth league rise and protect the hon member that sat, please. He is still young.

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): Hon members, we are just from a motion that was very touchy. Can the behaviour of some of us be commensurate to that, please? We might have our differences but this is not the time. Hon members, we are dealing with motions without notice. Does any member of the ANC wish to give a motion without notice?

 

 

Ms B P MBHINQO-GIGABA: Yes, Chair.

 

 

NATIONAL SENIOR CERTIFICATE EXAMS OFFICIALLY BEGIN

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Ms B P MBHINQO-GIGABA: moved without notice behalf of the ANC:

 

 

That the House –

 

(1) notes that the National Senior Certificate, NSC, exams officially began across the country on Wednesday, 23 October 2019;

 

 

(2) understands that more than 600 000 full-time candidates are registered for the exams this year;

 

 

(3) recognises that this assessment is the final hurdle for school learners and a culmination of many years of hard work and dedication for the learners, educators and administrators alike;

 

 

(4) calls on parents to encourage learners during this time to study hard and stay focused;

 

 

(5) further calls on the Department of Basic Education to leave no stone unturned in ensuring a credible NSC examination; and

 

 

(6) wishes the class of 2019 the best of luck for this year’s National Senior Certificate examinations.

 

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

 

HEADING

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

 

 

Ms T A KHANYILE: moved without notice on behalf of the DA:

 

 

That the House –

 

 

(1) notes that the Lekwa Local Municipality has been experiencing water supply problems for a number of years;

 

 

(2) further notes that the residents of Extension 2 in the municipality have been denied access to running water for large parts of the day during the past eight years;

 

 

(3) acknowledges that many of the residents are forced to set their alarms for midnight, as they are only able to collect water between midnight and 04:00 when the municipality switches on the water for the community;

(4) further acknowledges that the municipality’s alleged inaction to secure a regular water supply to the residents constitutes a violation of their rights contained in section 27 of the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa of 1996; and

 

 

(5) calls on the Department of Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs to take swift

 

 

action to fix the deteriorated water infrastructure to ensure a regular supply of water to the residents of Extension 2.

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

EDIYOZI ODI WAS FOUND GUILTY OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING CHARGES IN THE GAUTENG HIGH COURT

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Mrs T P MSANE: moved without notice on behalf of the EFF:

 

 

That the House:

 

(1) notes that Mr Ediozi Odi was found guilty of human trafficking charges in the Gauteng High Court;

 

 

(2) further notes that he kept three young children, between the ages of 13 and 14 and these girls were forced to work as sex slaves in a brothel in Springs, Ekurhuleni;

 

 

 

 

(3) recognises that human trafficking is common in our cities and the law enforcement agencies are failing to deal with a problem of human trafficking;

 

 

(4) acknowledges that the under-age girls are forced to work as sex workers and there are men that pay for these sex services with these under-age girls, and it is them that must be arrested;

 

 

(5) establishes a committee to receive a report on all cases reported against gender-based violence and human trafficking.

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): Hon members, the motion which has just been read has not been circulated. It has not been circulated and it therefore will not be put on the platform for the House to decide upon.

 

 

Ms H O MKALIPI: Chairperson! Okay, we would like to apologise for that. We are dealing serious stuff here as

 

 

that EFF. [Laughter.] So next time! But, the message is loud and clear. [Interjections.] Thank you.

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): Okay! Order, hon members! Hon members, order, pleas€. [Interjections.]

 

 

The DEPUTY CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: Hon House

 

Chairperson! [Interjections.] On a point of order, hon House Chairperson! Hon House Chairperson!

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): Hon member, are you rising? Hon members, you are allowed to ... [Interjections.]

 

 

The DEPUTY CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: The

 

agreement is that motions must be circulated to all political parties. Also, hon House Chairperson, I want to speak to the DA’s motion – the previous motion: We object it as the ANC. [Interjections.] We object that motion as the ANC. [Interjections.]

 

 

Mr J W W JULIUS: Point of order! Point of order!

 

 

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): Hon members, can I take advice on that?

 

 

Mr J W W JULIUS: Point of order!

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D NTOMBELA): What is your

 

point of order, hon member?

 

 

Mr J W W JULIUS: If the ANC was sleeping, that motion was passed and we are on another motion now. We cannot reverse it. Sorry for them for sleeping! [Applause.] [Interjections.]

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D NTOMBELA): Order, hon

 

members! I am sure that we are agreed. I am sure the House will be agreed that what the Deputy Chief of the Majority Party has just raised has caused contention in the House. [Interjections.] I therefore would not allow it; it is too late. [Applause.] However, I must also mention that it is discretionary upon me to allow it.

So, please don’t do that!

 

 

The DEPUTY CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: We were in

 

solidarity with the DA, hon House Chairperson, so that is why it went past us. We know they are bruised! [Interjections.]

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): Thank you, hon members. Order, please. Order! [Interjections.] Am I with the ANC?

 

 

Ms E D PETERS: Yes, Chair!

 

 

HEADING

 

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

Ms S R VAN SCHALKWYK: moved without notice on behalf of the ANC:

 

 

That the House –

 

 

(1) congratulates Prime Minister Dr Abiy Ahmed Ali of Ethiopia for being awarded the 2019 Nobel Peace Prize;

 

 

(2) notes that Prime Minister Ahmed Ali has been recognised by the Nobel committee for his efforts to achieve peace and international co-operation and in particular for his decisive initiative to resolve the border conflict with neighbouring Eritrea;

 

 

(3) recalls that the peace achieved between these neighbouring states is an important enabler of the African Continental Free Trade Area agreement and of the many objectives of the African Union’s Agenda 2063;

 

 

(4) understands that Dr Ahmed Ali will be presented with the award in the Norwegian capital, Oslo, on

10 December 2019;

 

 

(5) believes that this recognition will encourage other leaders in Africa to work hard on peace- building processes on the continent; and

 

 

(6) applauds the Prime Minister, Dr Abiy Ahmed Ali, for being awarded this prestigious prize.

 

 

 

 

Agreed to

 

 

 

27 OCTOBER MARKS CELEBRATION OF DIWALI

 

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Mr N SINGH: moved without notice on behalf of the IFP:

 

 

That the House –

 

 

(1) notes that Sunday, 27 October, marks the celebration of Diwali or Deepavali, also known as, “The festival of lights”;

 

 

(2) further notes that Diwali is celebrated to promote and cherish peace, harmony and the universal triumph of light over darkness, and good over evil;

 

 

(3) acknowledges that it is a five-day long auspicious occasion, celebrated continuously with great zeal throughout the period;

 

 

 

 

(4) wishes all Hindu families throughout South Africa and the world, celebrating Diwali, a happy one and may the beauty of the occasion fill your homes with happiness; and

 

 

(5) encourages all South Africans, in areas where it is permitted, to ensure that they display fireworks in a responsible, safe and controlled fashion taking into account other members of society as well as domestic animals that may be affected by these displays.

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

UMHLOBO WENENE FM VETERAN DJ ZOLA KASO-MAJIZA PASSES ON

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Ms B TSWHETE: moved without notice on behalf of the ANC:

 

 

That the House –

 

 

(1) notes with great sadness the passing on of Umhlobo Wenene FM Veteran DJ Zola Kaso-Majiza on Wednesday, 16 October 2019, at Life Mercantile Hospital after a short illness;

 

 

(2) understands that the 67-year-old radio legend, affectionately known as Makazi spent almost three decades in the broadcasting industry before retiring in 2015;

(3) acknowledges that she contributed immensely towards the popularisation and development of gospel music into one of the biggest music genres today, especially when it came to traditional gospel music;

 

 

(4) believes that South African radio listeners have lost a giant of the airwaves who contributed to nation-building through her radio programmes; and

 

 

(5) extends its heartfelt condolences to her family, friends, staff and the listeners of Umhlobo Wenene FM.

 

 

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

ILLEGAL POWER CONNECTION IN DUBE VILLAGE INFORMAL SETTLEMENT

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Mr W M THRING: Chair, I move without notice:

 

 

That the House-

 

 

(1) notes with sadness the passing away of four people, two of them children, in the Dube Village, Thembalethu, George, on Wednesday 16 October 2019, after all four were electrocuted as a result of illegal electrical connections;

 

 

(2) further notes that a three-year-old girl had touched a wire running from a homemade electricity distribution box, which was put together in an illegal and unsafe way;

 

 

(3) encourages the executive and all state-owned enterprises, SOEs, involved to develop and implement preventative mechanisms to ensure that our children and residents in informal settlements are kept safe, and to hold accountable, those who connect electricity illegally.

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

THOBEKA NKABINDE OWN TEXTILE BUSINESS

 

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Mr V ZUNGULA: Chair, I move without notice:

 

 

That the House-

 

 

(1) notes that 23-year-old Thobeka Nkabinde started her own textile business whilst pursuing her studies at the University of the Western Cape;

 

 

(2) further notes that she was picked to form part of the University of the Western Cape incubation programme;

 

 

(3) further notes that this incubation programme offers young entrepreneurs a chance to sell their merchandise at a store in Cape Town;

 

 

(4) congratulates Ms Nkabinde on her work;

 

 

(5) acknowledges that small and medium enterprises, SMEs, participation is a most viable alternative to curbing unemployment;

 

 

(6) further calls the Department of Small Business Development to be actively involved in the support of young entrepreneurs.

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

CRIME SITUATION IN ACTONVILLE

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

 

 

Ms H ISMAIL: Chair, I move without notice:

 

 

That the House-

 

 

(1) notes that the crime situation in Actonville in the City of Ekurhuleni has reached dire levels;

 

 

(2) further notes that businesses and residents are living in fear due to an alarming increase in the number of occurrences of murders, house and business break-ins and robberies and petty crimes;

 

 

(3) acknowledges that every person living in South Africa has a right to safety as guaranteed by the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa, 1996;

 

 

(4) further acknowledges that the Actonville Police Station’s resources are severely strained as it has to serve more than 4 000 households, 566 municipal flats and industries, the community

 

 

of Actonville, the hostel and at least five informal settlements;

 

 

(5) calls on the Department of Police to intervene to ensure that the Actonville Police Station is furnished with the necessary additional resources to deal with the dire crime situation.

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

KILLING OF WOMEN BY MEN IN SOUTH AFRICA

 

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Ms R N KOMANE: Chairperson, I move without notice:

 

 

That the House-

 

 

(1) notes the passing of Khanyisile Ntanga and Basetsana Kgaole from Ward 21, Rustenburg;

 

 

(2) recognises that Khanyisile was shot by her police boyfriend and Basetsana was stabbed to death by her boyfriend whilst she was carrying her one-year-old child on her back;

 

 

(3) acknowledges that South African men are killing women and it’s war against women in South Africa;

 

 

(4) further acknowledges that women are not safe even in their homes, because it is people who claims to love them and yet they killed them;

 

 

(5) sends condolences to the Ntanga and Kgaole families and we keep them in our prayers.

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

HEFTY SENTENCE GIVEN TO NICHOLAS NINOW

 

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Ms B T ZIBULA: Chair, I move without notice:

 

 

 

 

That the House-

 

 

(1) welcomes the hefty sentence given to the disgraced rapist Nicholas Ninow on Thursday, 17 October 2019;

 

 

(2) understands that Ninow was found guilty of raping a seven-year-old girl in the bathroom of a Dros restaurant in Pretoria last year;

 

 

(3) remembers that he was sentenced by the Gauteng High Court to life imprisonment for rape and five years for drug possession;

 

 

(4) further remembers that the court also ordered that Ninow’s name be added to the sexual offenders registry;

 

 

(5) believes the hefty sentence will be seen as a clear demonstration that the South African society has become intolerant of sexual abuse perpetrated against women; and

 

 

 

 

(6) extends sincere sympathy to the victim and her family for the suffering and trauma they have endured.

 

 

I thank you, Chair.

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

INCREASE SELLING OF CIGARETTES TO PERSONS UNDER THE AGE OF 18

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Mr C M SIBISI: Chairperson, I move without notice:

 

 

That the House-

 

 

(1) notes the increase selling of cigarettes to persons under the age of 18 by unmonitored foreign and local own shops;

 

 

(2) further notes that these shops must be monitored, especially before and after school hours;

 

 

(3) further notes that the shops found selling cigarette to persons under the age of 18 must be fined;

 

 

(4) calls on the House to seek effective mechanism to monitor both local and foreign shops selling cigarettes.

 

 

Thank you.

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): Hon member, I am sorry, the motion was not circulated.

 

 

6 PEOPLE KILLED AFTER MINIBUS TAXI PLUNGES DOWN EMBANKMENT

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Ms A J BEUKES: Chair, I move without notice:

 

 

 

 

That the House-

 

 

(1) notes with sadness the death of six people when a minibus taxi veered out of control and plunged hundreds of metres down a steep embankment in the KwaNgcolosi area near Inanda Dam in Hillcrest in Durban on Sunday, 20 October 2019;

 

 

(2) further notes that eight more people who had all sustained serious injuries were stabilised on the scene before being transported to various Durban hospitals for the further care they required;

 

 

(3) recalls that the minibus taxi carrying 14 people had lost control and rolled down a steep embankment coming to rest approximately 1km below;

 

 

(4) acknowledges and thank the paramedics and the SA Police Service that were dispatched to assist in carnage; and

 

 

(5) calls upon drivers, especially those operating taxis to be cautious at all times; and

 

 

(6) conveys condolences to the families of the deceased and wishes those injured a speedy recovery.

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): If there are no objections, I put the motion. Hon Singh?

 

 

Mr N SINGH: No, objection, but I just talk for the record. It’s Inanda Dam, not Indala Dam. [Interjections.] I think the member said Indala Dam. [Interjections.] It’s Inanda Dam. [Interjections.] The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr M L D Ntombela): Okay, hon member. [Interjections.] Thank you, hon member. [Interjections.] That was just a point of correction. [Interjections.]

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF THE DECEASED LEARNER

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Mr L M NTSHAYISA: Chairperson, I move without notice:

 

 

That the House-

 

 

(1) notes that an 18-year-old learner from Siyabonga Secondary School, South of Durban, was attacked by two learners and a parent;

 

 

(2) further notes that the learner was accused of stealing a cellphone belonging to one of the two learners; and that the learner later died on Sunday, 13 October in hospital;

(3) understands that the two learners and the parent were arrested and charged with murder;

 

 

(4) further understands that they are expected to appear in the Umbumbulu Magistrate Court very soon;

 

 

(5) realises that our schools have become war zones and slaughter houses;

 

 

(6) urges communities to get involved and bring solutions to this learner on learner violence;

 

 

(7) calls for an intensified of the objectives of Centre for Justice and Crime Prevention of 2008, and also, the National School Safety Framework;

 

 

(8) conveys our condolences to the family of the deceased learner.

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

 

 

SPRINGBOKS INTO THE RUGBY WORLD CUP SEMIFINALS AFTER BEATING JAPAN IN THE QUARTERFINALS

 

 

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Ms J MANGANYE (ANC): Chairperson, I move without notice:

 

 

That the House –

 

 

(1) notes that the Springbok Rugby team was victorious against Japan at the Rugby World Cup quarterfinal match on 20 October 2019;

 

 

(2) acknowledges that the Springboks won by a score of 26-3 in their match and will play Wales in the semi- finals;

 

 

(3) remembers that the Springboks lifted the Webb Ellis Cup in 1995 and again in 2007;

 

 

(4) congratulates the team on a well-deserved win; and

(5) wishes them well as they prepare to play in the semi-finals.

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

CAITLIN ROOSKRANTZ WINS GOLD MEDAL TO MAKE GYMNASTICS HISTORY FOR SOUTH AFRICA

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Ms C V KING (DA): Chairperson, I move without notice:

 

 

That the House –

 

 

(1) notes that Ms Caitlin Rooskrantz, a 17-year-old gymnast hailing from Johannesburg, made history when she became the first South African to win a gold medal at an international gymnastics competition;

 

 

(2) further notes that Ms Rooskrantz –

 

 

(a) won a gold medal in the uneven bars while competing at the International Gymnastics Federation, FIG, World Women’s and Men’s Artistic Gymnastics Challenge Cup held in

 

 

September in Hungary, beating seasoned competitors from Great Britain and Spain; and

 

 

(b) qualified to compete at the 2020 Olympic Games after achieving a total score of 49,466 while competing in Stuttgart, Germany, in October 2019;

 

 

(3) acknowledges that Ms Rooskrantz’s international victory and Olympic Games qualification follows her successes achieved in 2018 and 2019, when she won the South African Championships and the 2018 African Championships, where she was crowned the All Round Champion after receiving the highest score overall in four separate disciplines;

 

 

(4) further acknowledges that Ms Rooskrantz’s coach described her as one of the hardest working athletes that she had ever worked with, noting that she is a fighter who managed to come back

 

 

from a series of injuries to achieve great success in her gymnastics career;

 

 

(5) congratulates Ms Rooskrantz on her outstanding achievements, and especially her historical win in Hungary and qualification for the 2020 Olympic Games; and

 

 

(6) wishes her every success in Germany, where she will be competing in the 44th Turnier der Meister FIG Individual Apparatus World Cup in November.

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

SAD PASSING OF GALIEMA SEDAN-HARON

 

 

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Mr M G E HENDRICKS (ALJAMA): Chairperson, I move without notice:

 

 

That the House –

 

 

(1) notes with sadness the passing of Mrs Galiema Sedan-Haron on 29 September 2019;

 

 

(2) recalls that the 83-year-old Gogo Galiema Haron was the widow of martyr Imam Abdullah Haron who was killed in detention on 27 September 1969;

 

 

(3) further notes that Gogo Galiema Haron died and was buried on 29 September, which happens to be the same date when martyr Imam Haron was buried

50 years ago;

 

 

(4) acknowledges and is grateful for the presence of Minister of Sports, Arts and Culture, hon Nathi Mthethwa, at the funeral of Mrs Haron; and

 

 

(5) reiterates calls for the re-opening of the inquest into the death in detention of Imam Abdullah Haron.

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

A BRAVE CAPE TOWN MAN RISKED HIS LIFE TO RESCUE A WOMAN WHILE BEING RAPED BY TWO MEN

(Draft Resolution)

 

 

Ms T MGWEBU (ANC): Chairperson, I move without notice:

 

 

That the House –

 

 

(1) applauds an extremely brave Cape Town man, Mr Radius Masukume, who risked his own life to rescue a woman while two men were raping her on Thursday, 10 October 2019, in a field just off Gie Road in Table View;

 

 

(2) understands that Mr Masukume immediately went to the aid of the woman, where one of the men kicked him to the ground after he caught their attention and then stabbed him in his face and head four times;

 

 

(3) appreciates his heroic effort which was widely welcomed by many people via social media and a Facebook page started by Keep the Energy, a

 

 

group that focuses on gender-based violence, which raised just over R20 000 for Mr Masukume;

 

 

(4) appreciates his bravery and selflessness; and

 

 

(5) thanks Mr Masukume for risking his life to save the woman.

 

 

Agreed to.

 

 

Mr N SINGH: Hon Chairperson, I’m rising in terms of Rule

 

92 before we proceed with Members’ Statements. I note that there are only two Ministers and three deputy Ministers in the House. So, I’m leaving it to you to decide whether or not we proceed because we’ve had precedence in this House where we postpone Members’ Statements. And we will have almost 15 statements for these Ministers to respond; I think it’s unfair to the hon members. Thank you.

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms BOROTO): We have two Ministers and five Deputy Ministers, and we only expect six responses. So, we continue.

 

 

FIRST SMARTPHONE MANUFACTURER IN KWAZULU-NATAL

 

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Mr M NONTSELE (ANC)): House Chair, I want to present the Member’s Statement as follows: The ANC in its 2019 election manifesto noted that, the most pressing task for our country is to set the economy on a higher path of shared growth and transform the structure of our economy to provide opportunities for millions of South Africans.

 

 

The ANC, therefore, believes the launch of the Mara Phone’s first cellphone manufacturing plant in South Africa is one of the efforts to revive the country’s economy and create much-needed employment. This is expected to create hundreds of high-skilled direct jobs and thousands of indirect jobs.

 

 

It will also contribute to the transfer of technology and high-tech knowledge in South Africa. The new plant of Africa’s first smartphone manufacturer, Mara, was launched by President Ramaphosa in Durban on Thursday,

 

 

17 October 2019, a week after its flagship factory was opened in Rwanda. Thousands of Mara Phones are expected to be manufactured at the plant.

 

 

The production is expected to serve the domestic market as well as the regional market, especially the Southern African Development Community, SADC, region, contributing to strategies that position South Africa as the gateway to Africa. That’s the end of it. [Laughter.]

 

 

FAILURE AT SAA TECHNICAL

 

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Mr R A LEES (DA): This week the South African economy was dealt yet another blow by the ANC’s dogmatic adherence to socialist and statist ideology that has long been abandoned even by the ANC’s blessers in Russia. Tens of passenger aircraft were grounded because of a failure at SA Airways, SAA, Technical. This was because SAA was run into the ground by ANC cadres, and especially Zuma’s very close friend, Dudu Myeni.

 

 

Those grounded flights caused chaos for thousands of passengers as well as to their business activities. Last year SAA was paid a bailout of R5 billion, nearly doubled the annual budget for the National Prosecuting Authority, NPA, worse that SAA turnaround plan includes bailout of R21 billion.

 

 

Despite these massive bailouts, its technical division is so badly run that pirate parts may have been used in SAA and British Airways jets. Thousands of passenger’s lives have been put at risk. The mid-air scare of a Mango Boeing going into dive whilst carrying passengers, should be enough to scare the pants of all travelers who fly in aircraft serviced by SAA Technical.

 

 

Minister Tito Mboweni must now show that he has the courage of his convictions and ensure that SAA is put into business rescue. [Time expired.]

 

 

LEVEL OF RACISM IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Mr M M CHABUNGU (EFF): Madam Chair, the black people continue to experience racism in their workplace as if they are still living under apartheid. The level of racism in the private sector is shocking and inhumane. For a country with a Constitution that is celebrated all over the world, this means nothing to majority of black people who work for these white-owned companies.

 

 

People are dismissed without doing anything wrong; sometimes workers do not get their salaries and are called names. There is a company called Qwaqwa wiring based in Vereeniging, where the owners of this company are racist and treat black workers as slaves. Workers have reported the issue to their labour department, but labour inspectors do not go to this company’s premises.

 

 

When they do inspection visit, they only talk to the racist owners of Qwaqwa wiring who tell them lies. The Minister of Employment and Labour, and the whole department are ignoring racism that is taking place in these white-owned companies. Like what the DA has done to Mmusi Maimane, we are watching them like quarks. [Time expired.]

 

 

CITY OF CAPE TOWN HAS SPENT R19M TO RESOLVE 37 OF ITS 767 LEGAL MATTERS

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Ms N P NKABANE (ANC): House Chairperson, there are around 767 legal matters involving the City of Cape Town, of which 37 cases were concluded in the Western Cape High court, costing the City around R19 million. The most recent highly-publicised case is one involving the municipality and a group of homeless people over the issuing of fines.

 

 

Seven homeless people filed a contempt of court application against the city after law enforcement and Cape Town Central City Improvement District officials continued to issue fines to seven applicants and remove their possessions, despite agreeing to cease doing so pending a hearing in December.

 

 

Those seeking justice are turning to the courts to help fast-track their cases, as the city has clearly shown no such urgency. All the legal matters against the city is

 

 

a reflection of their failure to deliver proper and decent services to the people. As the ANC we can safely say without any doubt that, everything in the City of Cape Town is regressing. I thank you.

 

 

IRREGULAR APPOINTMENT IN UMZUMBE MUNICIPALITY

 

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Inkosi B N LUTHULI (IFP): House Chair, the uMzumbe Municipality in the South Coast of KwaZulu-Natal for some time now has experienced allegations of corruption which included misappropriation of municipal funds and irregular appointments. The ANC run municipality is no stranger to controversy. The IFP has called for a forensic investigation into corruption allegations made against Umzumbe Municipality over tender processes before.

 

There were allegations made against the former municipal manager of corruption and misappropriation of municipal funds, yet they were still transferred to another municipality. Officials from the municipal offices have

 

 

resigned left, right and centre. There are allegations made against the new municipal manager’s academic qualifications.

 

 

It is said that he only holds an Adult Basic Education and Training, ABET, certificate yet had been appointed... [Interjections.] Time expired.] Thank you.

 

 

THE HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms M G BORORTO): Before I call on

 

the FF Plus...

 

 

Setswana:

 

Ke batla go amogela bagolo ba rona go tswa kwa Rebone Community Wellness, Joburg Older Persons Forum, Gauteng, Soweto. Lo amogelesegile mo Palamenteng. Ke a lo leboga.

 

 

DEEPENING LEVEL OF INEQUALITY, POVERTY AND UNEMPLOYMENT

 

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Dr W J BOSHOFF (FF PLUS): House Chair, the introduction of several measures by the President of South Africa and various members of the executive to eradicate poor

 

 

governance, state-capture and corruption is welcomed, but the FF Plus is however concerned.

 

 

While the State Capture Commission of Inquiry dealt deeper into the web of capture, sourcing the culprits between factional battles, those who are most affected by the crimes are being sidelined. The deepening levels of inequality, poverty and unemployment caused by contemporary sate capture should be kept in mind when investigating and prosecuting the crimes of powerful politicians, private individuals and co-operations, as this has become real reason for economic disempowerment in South Africa.

 

 

Our future is being expropriated without compensation. The Special Investigating Unit, SIU, and other law- enforcement agencies are underfunded, undercapacitated and delayed. Selected high profile cases are often the focus, while other complaints are ignored with the detrimental effects on service delivery. This can’t be right.

 

 

The abbreviation ANC has become an acronym for absolute no consequence. The executive should be held accountable. Thank you, Chair.

 

 

ANC CONGRATULATES SASCO ON ITS 100 PERCENT VICTORY IN UWC SRC ELECTIONS

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Ms N T MKHATSHWA (ANC): House Chair, the ANC congratulates SA Student Congress, SASCO, on its 100% victory in the University of Western Cape Student Representative Council, SRC, elections. The ANC congratulates the biggest student movement in Africa, the SA Student Congress on its 100% victory during the SRC elections that were held at the University of the Western Cape on Wednesday 9 October 2019.

 

 

This landslide victory confirms that the students still have confidence in SASCO as the only reliable instrument to champion the demands of students of access and success within the institutions of higher learning. The ANC also acknowledges amongst many, the following

 

 

victories obtained during the recent SRC elections, Wits University, University of Free State, University of Venda, CUT, Nelson Mandela University and Sefako Makgatho Health Sciences University. [Applause.]

 

 

These victories send an unequivocal message that students remain unwavering in their support for the Mass Democratic Movement and continue to have confidence in the Progressive Youth Alliance as a whole. The ANC urges SASCO to continue being at the forefront of the struggle for fundamental change of tertiary education and serving the best interests of students.

 

 

We believe that SASCO will double their efforts to serve the student population, remain grounded in their struggles and lead from the front ... [Interjections.] [Time expired.] Thank you.

 

 

MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES AND ENERGY, GWEDE MANTASHE, MAKES PUBLIC STATEMENTS THAT HAVE NO BASIS

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Mr K J MILEHAM (DA): Hon House Chairperson, it has become something of the norm for the Minister of Mineral Resources and Energy, Mr Gwede Mantashe, to make public statements that have no basis in fact. So ubiquitous has this become that there is even a term for it. It is called “mantashing.”

 

 

So, it should come as no surprise that he has done it again. Last month the Minister proudly proclaimed the discovery of Hazenile at a Mining Investment Conference in Australia based on an April fool’s joke that was clearly marked as satire.

 

 

On Friday, the Department of Mineral Resources and Energy published under his signature the long awaited Integrated Resources Plan, IRP. Unfortunately they published the wrong one. Yesterday, the Minister could not answer simple questions like when will he open bid window five of the Renewable Energy Independent Power Producer, REIPP? Why did he not choose the least cost option for the IRP and what will you do if you need to release the strategic fuel reserves?

 

 

Instead we got a lot of waffle about me being a lobbyist

 

- I am not sure what for - and the fact that our strategic fuel reserves comes from Nigeria and Iraq.

 

 

An ANC MALE MEMBER: When are you resigning?

 

 

Mr K J MILEHAM (DA): Is it any wonder then that the Department of Mineral Resources and Energy is in complete disarray. We have a Minister who is little more than a coal lobbyist and a flip flopper almost as good as the EFF.

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms M G Boroto): Order. Hon members, order! Order. Order.

 

 

Mr K J MILEHAM (DA): A man who has just today admitted that he is mad. All South Africa wants is certainty.

This Minister does not give it. [Applause.]

 

 

An ANC MALE MEMBER: When are you resigning?

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms M G Boroto): Hon members, let us observe the Rules and stay away from gestures.

Continue ACDP.

 

 

Mr W M THRING

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms M G Boroto)

 

 

CONSTITUTION STATES EVERYONE EQUAL AND HAVE RIGHTS BEFORE THE LAW

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Mr W M THRING (ACDP): House Chair, Chapter 2, sections 9 and 33 of the SA Constitution, state that everyone is equal before the law and everyone has the right to administrative action that is lawful, reasonable and procedurally fair.

 

 

The ACDP believes that these rights have been denied to our South African citizen, Dr De Vos. In April 2017, Dr De Vos was suspended by the Health Professions Council of SA, HPCSA, because of an alleged statement by a woman who Dr De Vos engaged about a decision to end the life

 

 

of her 19 week unborn child. After numerous disciplinary hearings been set and charges withdrawn, only to be reinstated after a few months without explanation, it appears evident that the HPCSA is guilty of violating Dr De Vos’s human right to a disciplinary hearing that is lawful, reasonable and procedurally fair.

 

 

In July 2019, the charges were changed, including changing the date and the year in which the alleged offenses were committed. As of the 12 October 2019, information of the charges were not given to Dr De Vos which were required by law. It appears that Dr De Vos is being punished for his medical review rooted in science that doing good, doing no harm to the life of human beings includes the life of the unborn child.

 

 

The ACDP calls on all political parties to give support to Dr De Vos and hold the HPCSA to account, less we be accused of hypocrisy believing that all are equal before the law, except to those Christian doctors who hold the scientific medical view that all children are human beings, whether in or without the womb. I thank you. [Applause.]

 

 

 

 

NEWLY APPOINTED FEDERAL COUNCIL CHAIR HELEN ZILLE

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Mr B M HADEBE (ANC): Hon House Chair, the dysfunctional alliance newly appointed federal council chair, aka, the toilet cleaner Helen Zille believes and I quote:

 

 

The most important policies that we should not get bogged down to is race, what we should get bogged down to is how we get people jobs.

 

 

As if race is not a contributing factor in many instances when dealing with unemployment, poverty and inequality.

 

 

Her utterances prove beyond doubt that the DA is a party that believes in white supremacy and white privilege.

 

 

Zille’s courted much controversy over her comments which became progressively more conservative and earned her

 

 

the support from those who favoured liberalism based not on race, but on individual rights and competence.

 

 

Under her watch, the dysfunctional alliance will most likely focus on protecting white privilege and slowly abandon the need to attract black South Africans.

 

 

As clearly demonstrated yesterday and today the toilet cleaner has already flushed down the drain Mmusi Maimane and Herman Mashaba. [Laughter.]

 

 

IsiZulu:

 

Kodwa ke, uzenzile akakhalelwa. [Ihlombe.]

 

 

English:

 

And for those of you who are still in denial ...

 

 

IsiZulu:

 

... le mini iyeza nakuwe. Bambisisa lokho onakho. [Uhleko.]

 

 

ACCESS TO HEALTH A HUMAN RIGHT

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Ms N G ADOONS (ANC): Hon House Chairperson, the ANC believes that everyone has the right to have access to health care services, including reproductive health care. Access to health is indeed a human right as the Bill of Rights also stipulates. As the ANC, we therefore welcomes the landmark resolution calling for Parliament to take all legal and policy measures to achieve universal health coverage by 2030, adopted by the world’s parliaments gathered in Serbia for the 141st Interparliamentary Union, IPU, Assembly from the 13 till

17 October 2019.

 

 

The resolution urges parliaments to put in place effective Universal Health Coverage legislation to ensure that the right to public health and medical care is guaranteed for all in law and in practice, without discrimination. The ANC believes this resolution has the potential to have a real impact on people’s lives. The policy of the ANC as aspired by our people as enshrined in the Freedom Charter also states that access to health care is a basic human right. I thank you.

 

 

PUBLIC SERVICE MANAGEMENT SALARIES

 

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Dr L A SCHREIBER (DA): Hon Chair, maybe you need to order some medical attention. They clearly are getting chest pains from seeing accountability in action.

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms M G Boroto): Hon member read your statement.

 

 

Dr L A SCHREIBER (DA): Hon Chair, the DA has established that every year, government spend close to R30 billion in public money to fund the millionaire lifestyles of nearly 28 000 managers in the public service. On average, each of almost 10 000 senior managers takes home R1,4 million per year with a highest level managers being paid just under R2 million per year.

 

 

This is in sharp contrast to the average annual salary of a R169 000 paid to a police officer, the average teacher salary of R273 000 and the average R302 000 paid to a nurse per year.

 

 

This vulgar expenditure on millionaire managers shows that the ANC is more interested in maintaining the luxury lifestyles of its cadres than in delivering the quality frontline services that South Africans deserve.

 

 

Many ANC cadres have been purposefully deployed to managerial positions to capture the state. The government must urgently right size the state by drastically reducing the number of managers in the public service.

 

 

If the government cut the number of managers in the public service by half, we could immediately hire an additional 175 000 police officers, 54 000 teachers or

49 000 nurses. Thank you. [Applause.]

 

 

BABY BOITUMELO RAPED AND DIED AT A POLOKWANE HOSPITAL

 

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Mrs H O MKHALIPHI (EFF): House Chair, our hearts bleed with pain on the passing of a six-year-old girl, Boitumelo who was raped and died from injuries at a

 

 

Polokwane hospital. We also wish to send condolences to the family.

 

 

As the EFF, we have said it that we cannot continue to treat the rape of children as rape and not attempted murder. Any one who rapes a child has the intention to kill that child. There is no other intention besides an intention to kill.

 

 

As society, we should see it as murder and attempted murder. Perpetrators, who rape children, should be charged with murder. You do not rape a child, you attempt to murder a child or you successfully murder a child like it was the case with baby Boitumelo. The murdering of our children is happening as if there is no policing or our courts are closed. We must not get tired of showing our anger, frustration and activism against murdering of children. [Applause.]

 

 

75TH BIRTHDAY OF KAISER MOTAUNG

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Mr T V MASHELE (ANC): The ANC wishes the chairman of Kaiser Chiefs Football Club, Kaiser Motaung, a happy belated 75th birthday. Motaung, who founded the Glamour Boys almost 50 years ago, celebrated his 75th birthday on Wednesday 16 October 2019. Fondly known as Chincha Guluva, Motaung is widely respected for building the huge Amakhosi brand that is followed by millions of people on the African continent. He was superb as a player for the great rivals, Orlando Pirates, who recruited him when he was 16 years old, and he played for Atlanta Chiefs in the USA.

 

 

Motaung was only 24 years old in 1969 when he started the mighty Amakhosi, originally as a touring side called Kaizer XI, yet he showed vision beyond his years. His innovative attitude has shaped Kaizer Chiefs through the years and they remain the most popular and one of the most successful clubs in South Africa. We thank him for all he has done for the football in South Africa, the continent and the world.

 

 

We also acknowledge him for championing nonracialism in sport in our country. Finally, we thank him for creating and building ... [Time expired.]

 

 

APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS

 

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

Mr M G E HENDRICKS (AL JAMA-AH): House Chair, Al Jama-ah looks forward to line items in the budget on 30 October that provides for the funding to implement the following: plans to combat violence against women and want to see the half of billion rand in the line item; the appropriation of funds from all three tiers of government to properly fund the district models that the hon President promised the country.

 

 

The hon President has made us proud in Russia by announcing to the world that Africa will become the largest free-trade area in the world. Al Jama-ah warns against legislation to exclude African refugees from doing certain business in South Africa.

 

 

We support the position of the Prime Minister of Ethiopia that his Nobel Peace Prize was for all Africans, so business must be for all Africans. Thank you.

 

 

RESIGNATIONS OF SOME DA LEADERS

 

 

 

(Member’s Statement)

 

 

 

believe race is irrelevant, especially in addressing

 

inequality and poverty.

 

 

In his resignation, Mashaba stated that the party had certain individuals who drew artificial distinctions between service delivery in informal settlements and suburbs as a binary, an either-or-type approach. His implementation of the in-sourcing programme that benefited over 7 000 was also not supported within the DA. Shame!

 

 

The DA has always chosen to be a party that believed in “fronting” to gain support and leverage from black voters. Indeed, the DA is well on its way to destruction, destroying themselves and the black DA caucus. [Interjections.]

 

 

THE IMPORTANCE OF NATIONAL INTERESTS

 

 

(Minister’s Response)

 

 

The MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES AND ENERGY: Hon

 

Chairperson, I am just standing up to help hon Mileham, who does not acknowledge the fact that, after we published the Integrated Resource Plan, IRP, the rand strengthened from R15, 20 to R14,70, which is an

 

 

acknowledgment of certainty in regulatory terms and in policy terms. So, he cannot do that, because when you have a small mind, you chase mistakes, but when you have a great mind, you learn from every mistake that is committed in the process of execution.

 

 

I want to refer him to a book written by Jack Wells. There is a chapter that talks about blowing the rooftop. Read that chapter. It will help you understand that people who commit mistakes in execution, don’t get fired, instead they end up being CEOs because they learn from every mistake that they commit.

 

 

Now, the weakness with this ... Yesterday I was called to withdraw lobbyist. I am a lobbyist today and it is fine with me. [Laughter.] What people don’t understand when they lobby for foreign technology at the expense of national technology, is that they don’t know national interests and national needs. They are unsettled and therefore they are loudhailers for powerful governments that are outside. In that way, you unsettle the nation, you weaken it and you hand it over to foreign powerful governments to run.

 

 

That is what Mileham is doing. I want to ask him to learn a little bit, whether it is just a ... [Inaudible]

... whether it is ... [Inaudible] ..., we actually corrected all those mistakes. We are moving on. The train is running. [Time expired.] You are going to be shocked with the way of delivery. [Inaudible] ... get out!

 

 

PUBLIC SERVICE MANAGEMENT SALARIES

 

BABY BOITUMELO RAPED AND DIED AT A POLOKWANE HOSPITAL

 

 

 

(Minister’s Responses)

 

 

The MINISTER OF CO-OPERATIVE GOVERNANCE AND TRADITIONAL

 

AFFAIRS: Thank you very much. I just want to say that the managers in the civil servants are not paid according to political parties. The civil service has a standard, whether it’s in a DA province or in an ANC province, it is the same. So to say that the ANC is paying its cadres when the DA people in the Western Cape are paid the same is really disingenuous. So, don’t come here and pretend that you are better than the ANC. If you were better, you would have said that in the Western

 

 

Cape, we want half the salaries that are paid to the civil servants as ... [Inaudible.] ... in the country. [Interjections.] [Applause.]

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms M G Boroto): You still have time.

 

 

The MINISTER OF CO-OPERATIVE GOVERNANCE AND TRADITIONAL

 

AFFAIRS: The other thing I want to comment on is about crime and children. I think it is really important that our children be protected. It is a societal responsibility. It is government’s responsibility. It is all our responsibility to protect the children. Rape in South Africa is unacceptable to all of us, especially children, but women are also being raped. Today, in Gugulethu, there is shut down in this province because of what is going on there. So, we are not opposing but we are just saying that it is a societal responsibility, from families, government, communities and organisations to really protect our children. [Applause.]

 

 

    75TH BIRTHDAY OF KAISER MOTAUNG LEVEL OF RACISM IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR

 

 

(Minister’s Responses)

 

 

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF SPORTS, ARTS AND CULTURE: House

 

Chair, I just want to thank the member from the EFF who has raised the issue of racism. Racism is a cancer that must be rooted out in all its forms. That is why this government introduced a Bill in this House to make sure that racism is a crime. All of us should frown from racism. Whether it happens in your party, in your home or everywhere, racism is racism. It doesn’t matter where it happens. [Interjections.] So, I thought it is important and all of us must know that it is our responsibility to deal with racism.

 

 

The second part that I want to raise is to thank the member from the ANC who congratulated Kaizer Motaung on his birthday. Sort on its own is a social cohesion in this country. Kaizer Motaung has played a very critical role to make sure that sport is growing. It is therefore important that as we move and we go around, we must make sure in our home there is someone who plays sport or someone becomes creative because at the end of the day, South Africa will be a better place if all of us plays a

 

 

role in social cohesion. Thank you very much. [Applause.]

 

 

FAILURE AT SAA TECHNICAL

 

 

 

(Minister’s Response)

 

 

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF STATE SECURITY: Hon House

 

Chairperson, South Africa ranks amongst some of the top countries in relation to safety on aviation. I think that regardless of our political differences, there are things that we must appreciate about our country because what happens is that we have a very good regulatory mechanism, including the audit which was done, and it was not done yesterday. What happened yesterday was an effect of what was done a few days before. And it was not done to save Members of Parliament from this side of the House; it is to save everybody, including the member who raised the question.

 

 

It is important that we do so to keep that clean record in terms of safety on aviation in South Africa. It is important to note that all the airlines, and not just

 

 

the obsession about South African Airways, were affected. In fact, when that was detected, it was not detected on South African Airways; it was detected from another airline. But we had to make sure that all the airlines comply with the audit of the authority which was done. So, we must be proud of the work that we continue to do in keeping South Africa safe. [Applause.]

 

 

IsiXhosa:

 

USEKELA MPHATHISWA WOPHUHLISO LWAMASHISHINI ASAKHASAYO:

 

Sihlalo weNdlu ohloniphekileyo mandibulele ithuba. Ndivuyisana kakhulu noMama uNkabinde ngokuba aphumelele kwinto ebeyenza neyunivesithi kwizifundo zophuhliso lwamashishini asakhasayo wade wabe uyakwazi ukuthengisa. Ndifuna ukucacisela le Ndlu ukuba ngumsebenzi weli sebe ukuxhasa ngemali iiyunivesithi eziphuhlisa abantu kulo mkhakha. Ezinye zezi yunivesithi zivelisa iziqholo zomzimba kwaye zizithengisa nakwamanye amazwe. Sinaso ke isivumelwano esisityikityayo silisebe nezi yunivesithi. Maze nenze njalo ukuza kunika ingxelo yenkqubela phambili nabanye abasuka kumanye amaphondo. Nenza umsebenzi oncomeka kakhulu kwaye siyayibulela loo mpumelelo. Enkosi kakhulu.

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms M G Boroto): I may have missed one. I still have a slot. Did I miss anyone?

 

 

Mr J W W JULIUS: Chairperson, can we please stop because these responses are so poor. [Interjections.]

 

 

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms M G Boroto): Hon member, you are a leader, you can’t do that. [Interjections.] Order hon members! Leaders don’t do that, please. Hon members we have concluded the ministerial responses and we now go to notices of motion.

 

 

NOTICES OF MOTION

 

 

Ms T I LEGWASE: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the ANC that the House debates the stubborn persistence of the social legacy of apartheid which shows that white privilege continues unabated at the expense of the economic gains for the black majority.

 

 

Dr L A SCHREIBER: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I

 

 

shall move on behalf of the DA that the House debates the optimal size and structure of the public service in the Republic, which features currently an unsustainable wage bill of R627 billion and consumes 35% of total government expenditure.

 

 

Mr K CEZA: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the EFF that the House debates the persistent abuse and eviction of farm dwellers by farm owners in Machadodorp and the surrounding areas in Mpumalanga.

 

 

Mr B S YABO: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the ANC that the House debates working together towards a financially viable future through quality education.

 

 

Inkosi B N LUTHULI: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the IFP that the House debates the irregular and appointments of the officials and the overall corruption in some municipalities.

 

 

Mr P A VAN STADEN: Madam House Chair, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the FF Plus:

 

 

That the House—

 

 

(1) notes the current effects of climate change on South Africa and the current sitiaiton of prolonged droughts facing South Africa;

 

 

(2) further notes that provinces such as the Nothern Cape are facing multiyear droughts which are threatening food security and livelihoods of millions;

 

 

(3) recognises that drought relief is not sufficient and not reaching the intended beneficiaries whilst an estimated 32 000 jobs are being lost annually as a result and 1,2 million households are affected by these prolonged droughts;

 

 

(4) agrees that the current way of disaster management is not efficient and relevant; and

 

 

(5) refers this matter to the Portfolio Committee on Agriculture, Land Reform and Rural Development together with the Portfolio Committee on Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs to review the disaster management model and introduce relevant legislation to ensure effective disaster relief. Thank you.

 

 

Mr S W MDABE: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the ANC that the House debates addressing employee wellness programmes that include gender transformative trainings which challenges gender norms for the prevention of gender based violence and healing programmes.

 

 

Mr S N SWART: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the ACDP that the House debates the

 

 

increase in wasteful and irregular expenditure to an unacceptable R61,5 billion as highlighted by the Auditor-General in his recently released report.

 

 

Mr V ZUNGULA: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the ATM that the House debates the renaming of the Union Buildings as part of the restoration of the dignity of the native Africans. Thank you.

 

 

Mr T W MHLONGO: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the DA that the House debates the elimination of the gender pay gap between women and men in sports played at local level, provincial and national level.

 

 

Mr W T I MAFANYA: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the EFF that the House debates the role South Africa must play in the African Union in order to fastrack the flagship programme that has been identified and adopted by the 24th African Union Summit

 

 

to produce the African passport that enables the movement of Africans which will promote the distribution of a single Visa by member state and ultimately a single African passport to ensure free movement to all African countries.

 

 

Mr T N MMUTLE: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the ANC that the House debates the fact that gangsterism that manifests in violence, drug addiction, and teenage pregnancies are symptoms of a much deeper problem such as a desperate attempt of our youth to escape the emptiness of their lives.

 

 

Ms P T MANTASHE: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the ANC that the House debates the need of an enabling environment where the public and private sectors work together for the greater good in order for all South Africans to prosper.

 

 

Ms J S MANANISO: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move

 

 

on behalf of the ANC that the House debates skills development and employment as key issues for persons with disabilities in order to gain the necessary skills and have the opportunity to enter the employment sector.

 

 

Mr D JOSEPH: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the DA that the House debates the concept of traditional leaders and Khoisan reflecting on their role in a democratic South Africa. Thank you.

 

 

Mr Z M D MANDELA: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that, on the next sitting day of the House, I shall move on behalf of the ANC that the House debates: As Africa’s population is becoming younger, it stands to reason that youth development will form the cornerstone of efforts to build a successful generation of future leaders.

 

 

The House adjourned at 16:19.

 

 

 

 


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