Report Back by Workgroups and Committee Position on Dealings with Media on Matters of SCOPA
Public Accounts (SCOPA)
25 October 2006
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STANDING COMMITTEE ON
PUBLIC ACCOUNTS
25 October
2006
REPORT BACK BY WORKGROUPS AND COMMITTEE
POSITION ON DEALINGS WITH MEDIA ON MATTERS OF SCOPA
Chairperson: Mr T Godi (PAC)
These minutes were compiled
by the Parliamentary Committee Secretary
PRESENT
AFRICAN
NATIONAL CONGRESS
Mr T J Bonhomme
Mr P J A Gerber
Mr D M Gumede
Dr G Koornhof
Ms L Mashiane
Mr R Mofokeng
Dr E Nkem-Abonta
Mr V G Smith
Ms T Tobias
DEMOCRATIC
ALLIANCE
Mr E W Trent
Ms A Dreyer
INKATHA
FREEDOM PARTY
PAN
AFRICANIST CONGRESS OF AZANIA
Mr T Godi
UNITED
DEMOCRATIC MOVEMENT
Mr G T Madikiza
UNITED
CHRISTIAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY
SECRETARIAT
Ms N Madide
Mr G Dixon
Ms A Kakaza
PARLIAMENTARY
RESEARCHER
Mr L Zepe
OFFICE OF
THE AUDITOR GENERAL
Mr C Botes: Senior Manager
Ms N Hlasa:
Committee Adviser
Ms Z Keto: Committee Adviser
PARLIAMENTARY LEGAL ADVISOR
Mr F Jenkins
OPENING AND
WELCOME
The Chair opened the proceedings and welcomed the members and officials present.
APOLOGIES
Mr B E Pule will be attending the lock up session of the 2006 Medium Term
Budget Policy Statement.
Mr H Bekker is attending to constituency work in Kwazulu-Natal
AGENDA
The
following agenda was agreed to:
STANDARD
Apologies
Adoption of the Agenda
Adoption of the Minutes
Report Back by Work Groups
Programme 2006
ADOPTION
OF RESOLUTIONS
SALGA
Correctional Services
Mr E Trent requested that the DA “Issues for
Discussion” document be tabled as an Agenda item for discussion at a later
stage.
MINUTES No 22: 18 October 2006
The Committee adopted the minutes without amendments.
REPORT BY WORK GROUPS
Group 1
24 October 2006
Report back
The
following reports were categorised as follows:
The following reports were categorised as A:
Defence
Transport
The Africa Institute of South Africa (AISA)
South African Diamond Board
ICASA
NEMISA
Cross Border Road Transport Agency
Estate Agency Affairs Board
The Group categorised the Special Report of the
Auditor-General on the findings identified during an investigation into
procurement at the Companies and Intellectual Property Registration Office
(CIPRO) – September 2006 as a Category A and recommends a hearing for
Wednesday, 08 November 2006
The following reports were categorised as B:
Airports Company South Africa Limited
Alexkor
ARMSCOR
Arriva.Com
Castle of Good Hope
Communications
Council for the Build Environment (CBE)
Department of Trade and Industry
Independent Development Trust
Minerals and Energy
National Agricultural Marketing Council
National Electricity Regulator
National Gambling Board
National Lotteries Board
National Productivity Institute
National Research Foundation (NRF)
National Treasury
Nuclear Energy Corporation Limited (NECSA)
Public Works
Road Accident Fund
SA Civil Aviation Authority (CAA)
South African National Road Agency
South African Rail Commuter Corporation
SABC
SABS
SARS
SENTECH
Rail Safety Regulator
Universal Services Agency
The following reports were categorised as C:
Competition Commission
Competition Tribunal
CSIR
DBSA
Electricity Distribution Industry
Export Credit Insurance Corporation
Fasset
Human Sciences Research Council
Industrial Development Corporation
International Trade Administration Commission
Khula Enterprises
National Empowerment Fund
National Nuclear Regulator
Post Office
SASRIA
South African National Accreditation System
South African Quality Institute
South African Reserve Bank
The Council for Geo Science
Oversight of SARCC operated properties
The Group reported that the preparations for the trip was finalised. Two
additional members from the Portfolio Committee on Housing will be attending
the trip to investigate the disrepair of houses owned by Metrorail and the
SARCC. One member from the Portfolio Committee on Transport will also attend.
South African Diamond Board, Auditor General Reply to SCOPA 62nd
Report 2005
The reply by the Auditor-General, tabled on Wednesday, 30 August 2006,
indicates progress with regard to the recommendations stipulated in the SCOPA
Sixty-Second Report 2005. The reply indicates that the representative from the
Department of Minerals and Energy was tasked with sending a confidential letter
recommending the way forward, to resolve the issue in the Sixty-Second Report,
to the relevant Ministers concerned. The Auditor-General was still waiting on a
reply from the Ministers.
The Group requested the Chairperson to follow up whether the Auditor-General has
received any further information.
MATTERS ARISING OUT OF GROUP REPORT
CIPRO Hearing
Dr Nkem-Abonta raised a matter of procedure:
Plenary agreed that Groups would categorise all reports tabled by 31 October
2006. The Category A’s will then be prioritised and scheduled accordingly.
Scheduling a hearing on CIPRO for 08 November 2006 violates this agreement and
does not take into account other Category A reports that may be more
important.
Mr Trent indicated that a list of Special Reports not yet dealt with by SCOPA, tabled
on 20 September 2006, must also be categorised by the Groups.
After discussions, the Committee restated the principle of dealing with reports
tabled to SCOPA. Plenary refers reports tabled to it to the Group, the Group refers
it to a Member to assess and report to the Group on a way forward. The Group,
after agreement, reports to Plenary on the decision taken.
Committee decision:
The Committee agreed to the CIPRO hearing on 08 November 2006. The Special
Reports, as tabled on 20 September 2006, is before the Group and they will
assess it and report in due course.
Group 2
24 October 2006
Report back
The following reports were categorised as follows:
The following reports were categorised as A:
Afrikaanse Taal Museum
Correctional
Services
DWAF
Education
Health
Home Affairs
Justice and Constitutional Development
Nat House of Traditional Leaders
Playhouse Company
SA
national Aids Trust
Sport and Recreation SA
The following reports were categorised as B:
Housing
MDB
National Forest Access Trust
NYC
Prov and Local Government
SACE
SAQA
The following reports were categorised as C:
Artscape
Council
for Medical Schemes + Question
Council on higher Education
ELRC
IMC
Iziko Museums of Cape Town +
Question
Municipal
infrastructure investment Unit + Question
National Film and Video Foundation +
Question
National
housing Finance Corporation
NHBRC +
Question
NSFAS
NURCHA
PACOFS +
Question
PHPTrust
+
Question
Presidency
Public Service and Administration +
EOM
SA Institute for Drug Free Sports +
Question
SA Medical Research Council +
Question
SA Sports Commission
SAMDI +
EOM
SERVCON Housing Solutions
Social Housing Foundation +
Question
STATSSA +
Question
Thubelisha Homes
uMalusi Council for Quality Assurance
Water Research Commission
Departments that continuously appear before SCOPA
The
Group discussed the possibility of writing to the minister of a department that
continuously appears before SCOPA to highlight the issues that need special
intervention.
Debates of SCOPA Reports in National Assembly
The
Group discussed and proposed reinstituting SCOPA debates in the National
Assembly. It views the debates as a vehicle to highlight the state of
departments that have been called for hearings and spotlight those that have
not been called to a SCOPA hearing but whose financial management still requires
attention.
Annual Report of Parliament
The Group decided that the report should be categorized like any other report,
and if it is a Category A, then schedule it for a hearing.
Categorisation of Reports
The Groups must check that all entities the Auditor-General listed in his
briefing to SCOPA are categorised as a Category A. The Reports that are not yet
tabled and still do not have S65 explanations must be forwarded to the Speaker
as soon as possible.
Reports that do not have Financial Statements attached
The Group has a list of reports that do not contain financial statements
such as the National House of Traditional Leaders. The Group requests the
Auditor-General to clarify the status of these reports.
MATTERS ARISING OUT OF GROUP REPORT:
The Chairperson congratulated the Groups for their hard work and the Committee
applauded finalising the categorisation of Annual Reports.
Category B Reports
The Committee agreed that the Category B questions must be finalised as soon as
possible. The Reports must stay on the Groups’ agenda until the department replies.
Departments
that continuously appear before SCOPA
The
Committee discussed the issue and agreed that it must raise the bar to deal
with departments that have not shown any improvement. The Committee tasked the
Management Committee to work out a plan to implement the following issues.
Regular debates in the National Assembly to highlight issues
Resolutions to take a more robust tone
A multi-front committee approach
Incisive questioning techniques
Formulating a partnership with the Public Service Commission
Reports that the National Assembly must still adopt
The Committee tasked the Secretariat with establishing the amount of
reports that the National Assembly must still adopt. The House must adopt the
outstanding reports before it adjourns.
Adoption of Category A Resolutions
The Committee adopted the following resolutions with amendments:
South African Local Government Association
The Department of Correctional Services
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 13:00
Chairperson: Mr N T Godi Date:
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