Housing Amendment Bill: Voting and Committee Programme 2001
NCOP Public Services
26 March 2001
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PUBLIC SERVICE SELECT COMMITTEE
26 March 2001
HOUSING AMENDMENT BILL: VOTING; COMMITTEE PROGRAMME 2001
Chairperson: Ms P Madojina (ANC)
Documents handed out:
Committee Programme 2001 (See Appendix)
Housing Amendment Bill as amended by the Select Committee [B7B-01]
SUMMARY
Committee members were reluctant to adopt New Clause, Clause 7 as proposed by the Department. However members voted for the Bill and the new version of Clause 7 was adopted.
The three main issues on the Committee Programme for 2001 were:
-To monitor the building and repairs of rural roads,
-To have training on the budget
-The overseas tour should focus on roads and transport
MINUTES
Mr M Narsoo, Deputy Director-General of the Department of Housing, introduced Mr R Thatcher, Director: Legal Affairs in the Department of Housing, and Mr S Netshitomboni, State Law Adviser in the Department of Justice.
Mr Thatcher read out the proposed amendments made by the Department for the Committee's consideration (see B7A-2001 for these amendments as they were adopted by the Committee.).
Mr E Surty (ANC, North-West) felt that the deleted clause (replaced with new clause 7) had protected people trying to improve their houses and municipalities embarking on the building of houses. He suggested the Department should be thinking around this when dealing with this clause because by deleting it they were eroding the rights of mortgagees and local governments.
Mr Thatcher responded that by deleting this clause they were leveling the playing field for all creditors.
Mr Surty asked if the Department was acting constitutionally when taking these rights. He suggested that if they delete the clause they should insert something to protect financial institutions.
Mr Dango observed that the intention of deleting this clause is good but asked how does one balance that?
Mr Surty's answer was "by not diminishing the rights of mortgagees and local governments".
Mr Narsoo conceded that the issues raised by the Committee are issues the Department takes seriously. The intention of the Bill is an attempt to protect the investments of the State from being abused.
The Chair called for members to vote on the Bill and new clause 7:
The Eastern Cape supported the Bill as well as the new amendment.
The Free State supported the Bill
KwaZulu-Natal supported the Bill
Mpumalanga supported the Bill
North-West, though not having a final mandate from the province, in principle they support the Bill
Northern Province supported the Bill
Gauteng supported the Bill
Western Cape also supported the Bill
The Bill was passed unanimously with amendments.
Committee Programme 2001
The committee went over the draft programme developed from the Stellenbosch workshop.
Mr Mokoena asked how they are going to monitor the building and repairs of rural roads.
Ms B Thompson (ANC, KwaZulu-Natal) replied that the Committee would have to take up the issue with whoever was responsible for that project.
Ms J Kgoali (ANC, Gauteng) suggested that the Committee Clerk should look around for appropriate trainers including NGOs who could train members on budget issues.
It was agreed that this training should take place a week before the budget vote in May.
The Chair asked what form the Committee's tour should take.
Ms J Kgoali said that based on the information gathered from their tour of the Eastern Cape last year, the overseas tour should focus on transport and roads.
The Chair reminded members that there was still outstanding business to finish with Ms S Drits (Department of Transport) on Aviation and Maritime, and Mr E Jacobs of the Department of Public Works on the Department's Poverty Alleviation programme and other programmes.
The meeting was adjourned.
Appendix 1:
Select Committee on Public Services : National Council of Provinces
Provisional Programme for 2001
KEY THEMES
Our programme for the year will revolve around:
Overseeing implementation of sustainable poverty alleviation projects;
Restructuring of Public Transport Management;
Inter-governmental relations of our cluster departments;
Road Safety Awareness;
Overseeing Integrated Sustainable Rural Development Strategy;
Monitoring building/repairs of rural roads;
Ministers to table legislation one month after receipt in order to allow smooth consultation.
BUDGET
We need to link vision, aims, programmes and plans of Ministries and Departments more concertedly with the budget. We need to play our oversight role effectively.
Related to the above, we need to drastically improve our skills and technical abilities to evaluate the budget. We should organize a day training workshop that will focus on the above.
STUDY TOURS
It would be very useful for the Public Service Select Committee to visit a range of provinces on our line function.
Pending on resources, consideration should be given to organizing study tours abroad.
LEGISLATION
In terms of the three (3) cluster Departments' programmes we expect the following legislation this year:
Housing
Housing Amendment Bill [B7-2001] - scheduled for plenary on March 27 2001;
Prevention of Illegal Eviction from and Unlawful Occupation of Land Amendment Bill - being drafted;
Community Reinvestment Bill - introduction to Parliament in September;
Disestablishment of South African Housing Trust Bill - being drafted and will be submitted to Cabinet next month, i.e., February;
Social Housing Bill - still in drafting process;
Regulation under the Home Loan and Mortgage Disclosure Act - being drafted.
Transport
The following legislation will be introduced in the second quarter of the year:
Rail Safety Regulator Bill;
Airports Company of South Africa Bill;
National Ports Bill;
The following Bills are envisaged to be tabled during the second semester of the Parliamentary programme:
National maritime and Aeronautical Search and Rescue Bill;
Cross - Boarder Road Transport Agency Amendment Bill;
Amendment to the National Road Traffic Act, 1996 (Act No. 93 of 1966)
Amendment to the South African National roads Agency Limited and national Roads Act, 1998 (Act No. 7 of 1998)
Tow Truck Bill;
International Air Services Act (1949) Amendment Bill;
Civil Aviation Authority Act (19998) Amendment Bill;
Search and Rescue Bill;
Civil Aviation Offences Bill;
Railways Bill;
Designation of Airports Amendments Bill;
Aircraft Noise and Engine Emission Bill;
International Carriage by Air Amendment Bill;
Safe Containers Convention Bill;
Carriage of Passengers and Luggage by Sea Bill;
Bill to revise chapter IV of the Merchant Shipping Act and to implement ILO instruments;
Bill to implement 1992 CLC and Fund Protocols;
Bill to implement 1988 SOLAS and Load - Line Protocols;
General Amendment Bill (intended to tidy up a range of small and separate issues in all transport areas)
Public Works
There is no legislation envisaged for this year. The bulk of the legislation was passed last year.
IMPLEMENTATION OF PUBLIC FINANCE MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK
According to Public Finance Management Act, we are expected to receive reports form the Departments on monthly basis in order to exercise our oversight function effectively.
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NOT A FINAL PROGRAMME
As the year progresses, we will, of course, fine-tune our programme. You are welcomed to make suggestions in this regard.
There is a lot for us to do! Let us do much of it as possible!
26 March 2001
PROVISIONAL PROGRAMME
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DATE |
ACTIVITY |
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Monday, 26 March |
Eastern Cape Provincial Visit Report |
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Tuesday, 27 March |
Plenary: Housing Amendment Bill [B7-2001] |
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Wednesday, 4 April |
Training Workshop on Budget |
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Monday, 9 April - |
LEAVE PERIOD |
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Monday, 16 April - |
CONSTITUENCY PERIOD |
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Wednesday, 9 May |
Briefing on Budget Vote No.32: [Transport] |
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Friday, 11 May |
Legislation: [Briefing by the Department Concerned] |
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Tuesday, 15 May |
Policy Debate on Budget Vote No. 32: [Transport] - Provisional |
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Wednesday, 16 May |
Public Works Department: [Briefing] |
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Thursday, 17 May - |
Legislation: [Negotiating Mandates, if need be] - Provinces |
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Monday, 21 May |
Legislation [Consideration of Negotiating Mandates] |
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Wednesday, 23 May |
Briefing on Budget Vote No. 16: [Housing] |
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Thursday, 24 May - |
Legislation: [Final Mandates, if need be] - Provinces |
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Wednesday, 30 May |
Legislation: [Finalization and Voting] |
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Thursday, 31 May |
Policy Debate on Budget Vote No 16: [Housing] |
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Friday, 1 June |
Public Works Department: [Briefing] |
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Wednesday, 6 June |
Legislation [Briefing by Department Concerned] |
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Friday, 8 June |
Public Works Department: [Briefing] |
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Thursday, 14 June - |
Legislation: [Negotiating Mandates, if need be] - Provinces |
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Wednesday, 20 June |
Legislation: [Consideration of Negotiating Mandates] |
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Thursday, 21 June - |
Legislation: [Final Mandates, if need be] - Provinces |
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Monday, 25 June |
Legislation: [Finalization and Voting] |
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Wednesday, 27 June |
Public Works Department: [Briefing] |
NB: The exact details of the Programme thereafter depend on when exactly legislation is introduced to Parliament and the nature of the legislation. Besides legislation we will also be addressing the issues referred to in the overall Programme and any urgent issues that may arise.
Select Committee on Public Services
National Council of Provinces
Provisional Programme for 2001
KEY THEMES
Our programme for the year will revolve around:
Overseeing implementation of sustainable poverty alleviation projects;
Restructuring of Public Transport Management;
Inter-governmental relations of our cluster departments;
Road Safety Awareness;
Overseeing Integrated Sustainable Rural Development Strategy;
Monitoring building/repairs of rural roads;
Ministers to table legislation one month after receipt in order to allow smooth consultation.
BUDGET
We need to link vision, aims, programmes and plans of Ministries and Departments more concertedly with the budget. We need to play our oversight role effectively.
Related to the above, we need to drastically improve our skills and technical abilities to evaluate the budget. We should organize a day training workshop that will focus on the above.
STUDY TOURS
It would be very useful for the Public Service Select Committee to visit a range of provinces on our line function.
Pending on resources, consideration should be given to organizing study tours abroad.
LEGISLATION
In terms of the three (3) cluster Departments' programmes we expect the following legislation this year:
Housing
Housing Amendment Bill [B7-2001] - scheduled for plenary on March 27 2001;
Prevention of Illegal Eviction from and Unlawful Occupation of Land Amendment Bill - being drafted;
Community Reinvestment Bill - introduction to Parliament in September;
Disestablishment of South African Housing Trust Bill - being drafted and will be submitted to Cabinet next month, i.e., February;
Social Housing Bill - still in drafting process;
Regulation under the Home Loan and Mortgage Disclosure Act - being drafted.
Transport
The following legislation will be introduced in the second quarter of the year:
Rail Safety Regulator Bill;
Airports Company of South Africa Bill;
National Ports Bill;
The following Bills are envisaged to be tabled during the second semester of the Parliamentary programme:
National maritime and Aeronautical Search and Rescue Bill;
Cross - Boarder Road Transport Agency Amendment Bill;
Amendment to the National Road Traffic Act, 1996 (Act No. 93 of 1966)
Amendment to the South African National roads Agency Limited and national Roads Act, 1998 (Act No. 7 of 1998)
Tow Truck Bill;
International Air Services Act (1949) Amendment Bill;
Civil Aviation Authority Act (19998) Amendment Bill;
Search and Rescue Bill;
Civil Aviation Offences Bill;
Railways Bill;
Designation of Airports Amendments Bill;
Aircraft Noise and Engine Emission Bill;
International Carriage by Air Amendment Bill;
Safe Containers Convention Bill;
Carriage of Passengers and Luggage by Sea Bill;
Bill to revise chapter IV of the Merchant Shipping Act and to implement ILO instruments;
Bill to implement 1992 CLC and Fund Protocols;
Bill to implement 1988 SOLAS and Load - Line Protocols;
General Amendment Bill (intended to tidy up a range of small and separate issues in all transport areas)
Public Works
There is no legislation envisaged for this year. The bulk of the legislation was passed last year.
IMPLEMENTATION OF PUBLIC FINANCE MANAGEMENT FARMEWORK
According to Public Finance Management Act, we are expected to receive reports form the Departments on monthly basis in order to exercise our oversight function effectively.
Housing
|
PROGRAMME |
ACTIVITY |
PERFORMANCE |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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Transport
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PROGRAMME |
ACTIVITY |
PERFORMANCE |
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Public Works
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PROGRAMME |
ACTIVITY |
PERFORMANCE |
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|
|
|
|
NOT A FINAL PROGRAMME
As the year progresses, we will, of course, fine-tune our programme. You are welcomed to make suggestions in this regard.
There is a lot for us to do! Let us do much of it as possible!
26 March 2001
PROVISIONAL PROGRAMME
|
DATE |
ACTIVITY |
|
Monday, 26 March |
Eastern Cape Provincial Visit Report |
|
Tuesday, 27 March |
Plenary: Housing Amendment Bill [B7-2001] |
|
Wednesday, 4 April |
Training Workshop on Budget |
|
Monday, 9 April - |
LEAVE PERIOD |
|
Monday, 16 April - |
CONSTITUENCY PERIOD |
|
Wednesday, 9 May |
Briefing on Budget Vote No.32: [Transport] |
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Friday, 11 May |
Legislation: [Briefing by the Department Concerned] |
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Tuesday, 15 May |
Policy Debate on Budget Vote No. 32: [Transport] - Provisional |
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Wednesday, 16 May |
Public Works Department: [Briefing] |
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Thursday, 17 May - |
Legislation: [Negotiating Mandates, if need be] - Provinces |
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Monday, 21 May |
Legislation [Consideration of Negotiating Mandates] |
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Wednesday, 23 May |
Briefing on Budget Vote No. 16: [Housing] |
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Thursday, 24 May - |
Legislation: [Final Mandates, if need be] - Provinces |
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Wednesday, 30 May |
Legislation: [Finalization and Voting] |
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Thursday, 31 May |
Policy Debate on Budget Vote No 16: [Housing] |
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Friday, 1 June |
Public Works Department: [Briefing] |
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Wednesday, 6 June |
Legislation [Briefing by Department Concerned] |
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Friday, 8 June |
Public Works Department: [Briefing] |
|
Thursday, 14 June - |
Legislation: [Negotiating Mandates, if need be] - Provinces |
|
Wednesday, 20 June |
Legislation: [Consideration of Negotiating Mandates] |
|
Thursday, 21 June - |
Legislation: [Final Mandates, if need be] - Provinces |
|
Monday, 25 June |
Legislation: [Finalization and Voting] |
|
Wednesday, 27 June |
Public Works Department: [Briefing] |
NB: The exact details of the Programme thereafter depend on when exactly legislation is introduced to Parliament and the nature of the legislation. Besides legislation we will also be addressing the issues referred to in the overall Programme and any urgent issues that may arise.
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