Police Committee Programme & Outstanding Reports

Meeting report

Opening Remarks
The Chairperson welcomed Members and stated that the Committee would be busy in 2013. She noted that the agenda for the day was the consideration of several outstanding minutes and reports from the previous year.

First Term Draft Programme
The Chairperson reminded Members that the Committee had a five year plan. The First Term Programme would be adjusted after the Budget and State of The Nation Addresses; this would in turn lead to changes in the five year plan.

The Chairperson highlighted that the South African Police Services would not be briefing the Committee on 26 March 2013.

The Committee adopted the programme with minor amendments, but noted that it was subject to further change.

Committee Minutes dated 30 October 2012
The Chairperson went through the minutes page by page and invited comments from the Members.

Ms M Molebatsi (ANC) pointed out a grammatical error in paragraph 2.2

Mr D Stubbe (ANC) moved for the adoption and Ms Molebatsi seconded the motion.

The minutes were adopted with minor amendments.

 Committee Minutes dated 31 October 2012
The Chairperson tabled the minutes for consideration and pointed out that the Freedom Front name had to be on bold on the 1^st page.

Ms Molebatsi referred to page 3 and corrected a minor technical error in the document.

Ms Molebatsi moved for adoption and Mr G Lekgeto (ANC) seconded the motion.

The minutes were accordingly adopted with minor technical amendments.

Committee Minutes dated 1 November 2012
The Chairperson went through the minutes page by page asked Members to give their input.

Members did not raise any objections.

Mr D Stubbe (DA) moved for adoption and Mr Lekgeto seconded the motion.

The minutes were adopted without amendments.

Committee Minutes dated 6 November 2012
The Chairperson went through the minutes page by page, she also pointed out some grammatical errors on page 3.

On page 5 Ms Molebatsi pointed out some grammatical error.

Mr Lekgeto moved for the adoption and Mr D Stubbe (DA) seconded the motion.

The minutes were adopted with minor technical amendments.

Committee Minutes dated 7 November 2012
The Chairperson tabled the document for consideration.

Ms Molebatsi suggested the deletion of the word “namely”.

Mr Stubbe suggested the rewriting of the heading and the use of bullet points for each line.

The Committee Researcher pointed out some grammatical errors on page 3 of the document.

Ms Molebatsi moved for the adoption and Mr Stubbe seconded the motion.

The minutes were adopted with minor technical amendments.

Committee Minutes dated 8 November 2012
On page 3 the Chairperson suggested that the summary should be rephrased.

Mr Lekgeto moved for adoption of minutes and Ms Molebatsi seconded the motion.

The minutes were adopted with minor technical amendments.

Committee Minutes dated 13 November 2012
The Chairperson tabled the document for consideration and invited input from Members of the Committee.

Ms Molebatsi pointed out a few grammatical errors on page 8.

The Chairperson suggested a few minor grammatical changes on page 6. She went on to suggest the rewording of the paragraph that dealt with the grading of salaries of Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority (PSIRA) officials.

Mr Stubbe suggested the deletion of the second bullet point on page 8.

The Chairperson said that paragraph 3.13 should be rephrased

Mr Stubbe suggested that the Committee should have a checklist of all the changes that need to be done for each set of minutes.

The Chairperson said that the suggestion had been made before, she then urged the Committee Secretary to “step on it”.

Mr Molebatsi pointed a grammatical error in paragraph 3.16.

Mr Stubbe moved for adoption and Ms Molebatsi seconded the motion.

The minutes were adopted with minor technical amendments.

Committee Minutes dated 14 November 2012
The Chairperson suggested that the minutes could be considered and adopted at a later date.

Nevertheless, she referred to page 3 of the document and made some minor corrections. On page 4, the Chairperson, suggested the deletion of the second paragraph.

Ms Molebatsi also made some grammatical amendments.
A brief discussion ensued around clause 14 of the Private Security Industry Regulation Amendment Bill. Members agreed that the whole clause should be reworded, and that the technical team should report back to the Committee on the issue.
It was agreed that the minutes could not be adopted because there were too many changes related to that clause..

Committee Minutes dated 20 November 2012
The Chairperson went through the minutes page by page and invited comments from the floor.

The Chairperson pointed out some grammatical errors on page 1.

Mr Stubbe referred to page 3 and said that the summary of the proceedings needed to be reworded to reflect the correct figures that were presented to the Committee by PSIRA.

Ms Molebatsi moved for adoption and Mr Stubbe seconded the motion.

 The minutes were adopted with amendments.

Committee Minutes dated 21 November 2012
The Chairperson tabled the minutes for consideration.

The Chairperson suggested the use of bullet points and the rephrasing of the summary of the proceedings on page 3. She further suggested the deletion of several sentences in the document.

The Committee agreed to put on record that the PSIRA leadership had acknowledged that there were problems within the organisation.

The Chairperson and Mr Stubbe pointed out some minor changes that should be made to paragraph 2.2- this related to the number of phone calls to the PSIRA hotline as reported by KPMG.

The Committee pointed out the error in numbering of the recommendations.

Ms Molebatsi enquired about the provision concerning “additional sick leave”. The Chairperson asked the Secretariat to ask PSIRA about the issue.

The Committee agreed to redraft the paragraph dealing with the number of people working in the Director’s office. That would clarify who earned what amount in that office.

Mr Stubbe referred to paragraph 2.1.5 and said that the events management section should also be reflected in the recommendations.

The minutes were not adopted because there was a lot of information that needed to be clarified with PSIRA.

Committee Minutes dated 27 November 2012
The Chairperson tabled the minutes for consideration. Thereafter, she pointed a few minor errors on page 1 of the document.

The Committee agreed to rewrite the minutes and approve it later.

North West Oversight Report
The Chairperson mentioned that the Committee had already considered and adopted the report but it had not been tabled. Members then felt that the report should be tabled.

PSIRA Annual Report Presentation 2011/12
The Chairperson asked Members for a way forward whether to go through the report or shelve it for a later date.
           
Mr Stubbe suggested that the Committee should wait for a full Committee meeting on 12 February 2012.

The Committee agreed to shelve it.

Northern Cape Oversight Visit Report
The Committee agreed not to consider this report at the meeting. Instead, the Chairperson asked the Committee Researcher and the Committee to work on all 3 reports and the minutes that had not been adopted and send it to Members when they were ready.

The meeting was adjourned.