Adoption of Resolutions on President's and Guardian's Fund;SARS Site Visit; SCOPA Annual Programme

Public Accounts (SCOPA)

18 September 2002
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PUBLIC ACCOUNTS PORTFOLIO COMMITTEE
18 September 2002
ADOPTION OF RESOLUTIONS ON PRESIDENT'S FUND AND GUARDIAN FUND; SARS SITE VISIT; SCOPA ANNUAL PROGRAMME

Chairperson: Mr F Beukman

Documents handed out
Draft Resolution on President's Fund (document awaited)
Draft Resolution on Guardian's Fund (Appendix 1)
Categories for reports (Appendix 2)
SARS Provisional Programme
SCOPA Programme (Appendix 3)

SUMMARY
The Committee agreed on the SARS site visit. The SCOPA annual programme for 2002/2003 was adopted except for the ICASA item. The President's Fund draft resolution was unanimously adopted. The draft resolution on the guardian fund was adopted with amendments.

MINUTES
South African Revenue Service Visits
The committee agreed that the visit to SARS site should resume at 15H30 and not at 09H30 as initially proposed. The committee unanimously agreed on the sites visit.

Groups' Report-back
Ms N Hlangwana (ANC) a member of Group 1 presented Group 1 report. She stated that from the meeting between the group and the Office of the Public Protector and ICASA, were of the opinion that the problems of ICASA were unnecessarily exaggerated. She said the group recommended that the committee monitor the processes. She also reported that there would be a meeting between the Department Justice and the group to discuss the case against TRC.

The committee accepted Ms Hlangwana's report.

Mr D Gumede (ANC) held that Group 2 was still in a process of finalising its plan and this would be presented on the next meeting. He noted that the group was concerned about the way in which the minutes were drawn. There should be better follow-up. When tasks were given, those tasks should remain part of the agenda until completed. He said only in this way could the committee make proper follow-ups on all its tasks.

Adoption of Programme for 2002/3
The committee adopted both the proposed programmes, but however deleted the item referring to ICASA.

Adoption of Resolutions
The President's Fund draft resolution was unanimously adopted.

Mr M Lowe (DP) noted that the Guardian Fund draft resolution only focussed on the year
ending 2002 and did not take account of the time frame given to the Auditor General.

Based on the above the committee effected the following amendments:
The report requested that item 2 on 'ineffective accounting systems' would now be submitted on the 15 January 2003
While the one requested that item three 'trained and skilled staff' would be submitted on the 14 February 2003.
The schedule requested item five on 'disciplinary action' would now be submitted on the 15 January 2003.

The draft resolution on the guardian fund was thereafter adopted with its amendments.

Meeting was adjourned.

Appendix 1
DRAFT RESOLUTION ON THE GUARDIAN FUND

Introduction:

The Standing Committee on Public Accounts, having considered the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of the Guardians' Fund for the year ended 31 March 2001[RP 165/2001], referred to it; as well as having considered the responses to SCOPA's queries by the Director General: the Department of Justice and Constitutional Development, and by the Managing Director:

Masters Business Unit, reports as follows:

1. Audit Opinion

The Committee notes with concern the Auditor-General's disclaimer of opinion on the financial audit, and the qualified opinion on the compliance audit.

The Committee recommends that serious attention be paid to all aspects to the disclaimer and the qualified opinion with the view to avoiding such negative audit opinions being expressed by the Auditor-General in future.

2. Ineffective Accounting Systems

The Committee notes with concern that the Auditor-General has again reported on the ineffective manual accounting system of the Guardians' Fund.

The Committee welcomes the urgent steps, which are being taken to ensure that the ineffective manual accounting system is phased out, and that the target date for the completion of the full computerization of the Guardians' Fund is December 2002.

The Committee recommends that the Department submits a report to SCOPA by 31 December 2002, confirming the full and successful computerization of the Guardians' Fund.

3. Trained and skilled staff

The Committee is concerned the Guardians Funds are experiencing a critical shortage of skilled and experienced staff.

The Committee notes that despite the increased workload, the staff complement could not be increased due to a lack of funds.

The Committee notes that the Department is giving priority to the appointment of trained and experienced accountants to head the

various funds, as well as to filling the post of Financial Director for the Masters National Office.

The Committee recommends that the above appointments be made urgently, and that a progress report on the matter be submitted to SCOPA by 30 November 2002.

4. Bank Reconciliations

The Committee is concerned that either no bank reconciliations or only limited reconciliations had been performed on the current accounts of the various Funds.

The Committee notes the reasons for the failure to do so; welcomes the steps taken to update the reconciliation statements of various Guardians' Funds; and notes that reconciliations have been brought up date at several offices.

The Committee recommends that a progress report be submitted to SCOPA by 30 November 2002, regarding those offices where bank reconciliations have not yet been brought up to date.

5. Disciplinary Action

The Committee notes that the Internal Audit section of the Department was requested to determine the functionality of the various offices; and that a request to conduct a Forensic Audit was made.

The Committee further notes that charges were laid with SAPS; that various criminal charges are being investigated; and that disciplinary action is being taken against those who are suspected of misconduct and of negligence in the execution of their duties.

The Committee recommends that the Department submits to SCOPA by 30 November 2002 a schedule of the various criminal charges which are being investigated, and the nature of disciplinary action taken, if any, against those who are suspected of misconduct and/or negligence.

6. Compliance

The Committee notes that due to the manual accounting system, it is difficult to comply with certain provisions of the Administration of Estates Act and the Income Tax Act

The Committee notes that the computerization of the Funds will in future ensure compliance with the above two Acts.

The Committee recommends that the Department include these compliance aspects in its formal report to SCOPA regarding the full and successful computerization of the Guardians' Act

7. Hearing

Having considered the various inputs, the Committee recommends that no Hearing be held on the Guardians' Fund this year.

Report to be considered.


Appendix 2
Report Categories
The three categories of priority for sifting of reports as taken from the SCAG report are as follows:

Category A: These are matters that always entail a hearing.

- This would be where the audit opinion on votes and public entities is adverse, disclaimed or qualified.

- Special reports of the Auditor-General.

- Highly inadequate tabled responses to SCOPA recommendations.

- Matters of serious public concern not reported on by the Auditor-General.

- Success stories - departments or public entities with dramatic improvements or progress.

Category B: These are matters that don't require a hearing but a standard resolution and letter.

- Unqualified audit opinions - votes only.

- Unsatisfactory responses to SCOPA recommendations.

Success stories - departments or public entities with dramatic improvements or progress.

Category C: These are matters that require no overt action by SCOPA.

Unqualified audit opinions - public entities. Satisfactory responses to SCOPA recommendations.

The above sifting of reports is considered a guideline from the Auditor-General's office that will be supported by the Researcher's notes detailing the departments past performance, related audit opinions and level of compliance with SCOPA recommendations for the previous two financial years.

The above guidelines will serve to inform SCOPA's programme for the year. However decisions on categories may not only be informed by the above guidelines but the membership of SCOPA may deem a hearing necessary due to public opinion, serious or recurring issues, material amounts in question, subsequent events or the political context at the time which all play an important role in determining effective oversight and accountability not only in terms of financial management but oversight in terms of accounting to constituencies and stakeholders affected by Departmental mismanagement. Regular feedback by SCOPA to the Auditor-General on focus areas from a SCOPA perspective for the next audit cycle must be provided for in time for incorporation in the next audit cycle.

Appendix 3
STANDING COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS
PROGRAMME: 2002

MARCH 2002

20

Wednesday

Hearing

  • Defence

21

Thursday

Constituency period begins

APRIL 2002

19

Friday

Constituency period ends

21 - 23

Sunday - Tuesday

APAC: Council of Delegates (Sunday: 16:00 - 18:00) Training Monday & Tuesday) Cape Town

24

Wednesday

  • Election of Chairperson
  • Presentation of AG's 2nd General Report (2000 - 2001)

MAY 2002

1

Wednesday

Public Holiday - Worker's Day

8

Wednesday

Hearing

  • Parliament
  • Water Affairs and Forestry

 

 

15

 

 

Wednesday

Hearing

  • Legal Aid Board

Pending resolutions

  • Correctional Services

22

Wednesday

Hearing

  • Transport, Road Accident Fund, SA Rail Commuter Corporation & Transport agencies

24

Friday afternoon

Meeting with the DG and CFO of Justice

26 - 28

Sunday - Tuesday

APAC Annual Conference & AGM - Kimberley

 

JUNE 2002

4

Tuesday

Groups + Preparation for Labour hearing

5

Wednesday

Hearing

  • Labour, Compensation Fund, SETAs & UIF

10

Monday

SCOPA workshop

11

Tuesday

Preparation for RAF hearing in the afternoon (House is sitting in the morning as well)

12

Wednesday

Hearing

  • RAF

18

Tuesday

Preparation for hearing on AG's General Report

19

Wednesday

Hearing

  • Items from AG's 2nd General Report

21

Friday

(14:00-16:30)

Meeting with DG of Arts, Culture, Science and Technology on State Theatre

25

Tuesday

Groups (Resolutions)

26

Wednesday

Pending resolutions, e.g.

  • Unauthorised expenditure
  • Statistics SA
  • Social Development
  • Education
  • GCIS
  • Foreign Affairs
  • ICD

28

Friday

Constituency period begins

JULY 2002

26

Friday

Constituency period ends

 

29 Jul

until 2 Aug

 

Committee week

AUGUST 2002

5-7

 

Members' Training

13

Tuesday

Groups

Plenary

NB. NA debate on arms deal reports

 

14

Wednesday

 

09:00 - 10:30 Task team report

10:30 - 13:00 Interaction with Justice officials

 

20

Tuesday

09:00 - 10:30 Groups

10:30 - 13:00 Preparation for hearing

  • Public Works

13:30 Meeting with DG of Arts, Culture, Science and

Technology

 

21

 

 

 

 

 

Wednesday

Presentation by OAG on the audit process

  • Legal Aid Board

27

Tuesday

Preparation for hearing

  • Public Works

28

Wednesday

Hearing

  • Public works

SEPTEMBER 2002

 

 

All hearings after September will be reevaluated after an assessment of the new reports has been done.

3

Tuesday

  • Groups
  • Pending draft resolutions

Labour

Environmental Affairs and Tourism

Transport

Parliament

Water Affairs and Forestry

Commission for Gender Equality

Guardian Fund

AG's General Report II (2000-2001)

Annual reports: 2001-2002

    • 14:00 Site visit in Parliament

4

Wednesday

Hearing

    • RAF Board Chairperson

5

Thursday

    • Visit to the Harbour and CT international airport

10

Tuesday

Groups

Plenary

Preparation for hearing

  • Living Marine Resources?

11

Wednesday

  • Plenary

17

Tuesday

09:00 - 13:00 Groups

18

Wednesday

09:00 - 13:00 Plenary

  • Presidents Fund
  • Guardians Fund
  • Consideration of programme for 2002 - 2003
  • Terms of reference for SARS visit
  • JSCI preparation
  • General

24

Tuesday

Heritage Day

25

Wednesday

09:00 - 13:00 SARS Border Post Visit

15:00 JSCI Meeting

27

Friday

Constituency period begins

OCTOBER 2002

07

Monday

A-G and Staff Workshop (venue to be confirmed)

11

Friday

Constituency period ends

14

Monday

14:00 Press Conference Meeting

15:00 International Study Tour Meeting

15

Tuesday

09:00 - 10:45 Groups

10:45 - 13:00 Plenary

  • Preparation for Hearing: Group 2:

16

Wednesday

09:00 - 13:00 Plenary

Hearing: Group 2

  • Outstanding Resolutions
  •  

21-22

Monday & Tuesday

APAC skills training

23

Wednesday

10:00 - 12:00 Groups

29

Tuesday

09:00 - 10:45 Groups

10:45 - 13:00 Plenary

  • Preparation for Hearing: Group 1: SAPS

15:00 Meeting with PC Justice: Adv. De Lange

30

Wednesday

09:00 - 13:00 Plenary

Hearing: Group 1

  • SAPS

NOVEMBER 2002

1

Friday

Visit to courts: 2 Delegations

  • East London - Mdantsane
  • KZN - Durban

5

Tuesday

09:00 - 10:45 Groups

10:45 - 13:00 Plenary

  • Preparation for Hearing: Group 2: SITA / Health

6

Wednesday

09:00 - 13:00 Plenary

  • Hearing Group 2
  • SITA
  • Health

12

Tuesday

09:00 - 13:00 Plenary

  • Finalisation of outstanding matters

13

Wednesday

09:00 - 13:00 Plenary

18:00 - end Evening Function

16

 

International Study tour

18

Monday

Constituency period begins

DECEMBER 2002

13

Friday

Constituency period ends

16

Monday

Leave period begins

 

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