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Reply received: June 2012

QUESTION NO 1376

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 25 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 14-2012)

Date reply submitted: 12 June 2012

1376. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(a) What is the (i) status and (ii) relevant details of the police investigation in the, (aa) Silverton CAS 155/07/2011, (bb) Lyttleton CAS 432/11/2011 and (cc) Vosloorus CAS 340/02/1999 cases and (b) when does he anticipate that each case will be finalised?

NW1625E

REPLY:

(a) (aa) Silverton CAS 155/07/2011

(i) The matter has been provisionally withdrawn in the Serious Economic Offences Court (SCCU), Pretoria on 14 December 2011.

(ii) Charges relates to alleged fraud and/or corruption in respect of the trade-in of a vehicle.

(bb) Lyttleton CAS 432/11/2011

(i) Matter is currently under investigation

(ii) Charges relates to alleged fraud and/or corruption

(cc) Vosloorus CAS 340/02/1999

(i) The matter had been withdrawn on 14 February 2012 in the High Court South Gauteng, Johannesburg.

(ii) Charges relate to murder, attempted murder, kidnapping, assault and defeating the ends of justice.

(b) (aa) Silverton CAS 155/07/2011

A request for the review of the decision to withdrawn the matter was submitted by the prosecutors to the Office of the Acting National Director of Public Prosecutions and any further action is dependent on the outcome of the review.

(bb) Lyttleton CAS 432/11/2011

The investigation into this matter is ongoing. It is not possible at this time to indicate time-lines.

(cc) Vosloorus CAS 340/02/1999

An inquest was instituted which commenced on 10 April 2012 in the Boksburg Magistrates court. The inquest will resume on 3 September 2012 and continue to 21 September 2012.

Reply received: June 2012

QUESTION NO 1373

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 25 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 14-2012)

Date reply submitted: June 2012

1373. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) (a) How many police officers are currently employed in the SA Police Service (SAPS) and (b) what is the current breakdown with regard to (i) province and (ii) division of the SAPS;

(2) whether he intends to cut more than 9 000 personnel from the SAPS; if so, (a) from which divisions and (b) at which levels are the intended staff cuts aimed?

NW1621E

REPLY:

(1)(a) A total number of 157 380 police officers are currently employed in the South African Police Service as on 31 May 2012. There are also 40 000 public service employees

(1)(b) The breakdown is as follows:

(i) Provinces:

Limpopo: 11 071

Gauteng: 32 093

Western Cape: 17 889

Eastern Cape: 18 181

Northern Cape: 6 091

Free State: 11 076

KwaZulu-Natal: 22 882

North West: 8 798

Mpumalanga: 8 826

(ii) Divisions: 20 473

(2) With reference to the Department's Budget Vote Hearing before the Portfolio Committee on 17 April 2012 to 19 April 2012, the Committee was informed of the fact that a reduction in personnel numbers over the medium term (2012/13 to 2014/15) might occur due to the fact that not all personnel losses will be replaced, especially during 2012/2013.

As Minister of Police, I have consequently met with SAPS management on this issue and have informed SAPS that the necessary budget cuts that will occur should not compromise our personnel and our ability to fight crime. There have been subsequent meetings between National Treasury and SAPS. Agreements are being put in place to ensure that SAPS does not have to cut down on its personnel numbers but that it reduces on other areas of spending that does not compromise the fight against crime such as goods and services.

Reply received: June 2012

QUESTION NO 1368

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 25 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 14-2012)

Date reply submitted: 12 June 2012

1368. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the process of precautionary suspension has been (a) considered or (b) initiated in light of the allegations against a certain person (name and details furnished); if not, why not; if so, at what stage is this process;

(2) what are the said person's current (a) position, (b) duties and (c) responsibilities (details furnished)?

NW1616E

REPLY:

Lieutenant General Mdluli has been suspended as a result of internal processes.

Reply received: June 2012

QUESTION NO 1359

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 25 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 14-2012)

Date reply submitted: 12 June 2012

1359. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the relevant (a) procedures, (b) regulations and (c) policies in accordance with the requirements of the (i) Treasury and (ii) Public Service Commission (PSC) were followed in the appointment of generals, majors general and other high-ranking commissioners, including six deputy provincial commissioners since 2009; if not, why not; if so,

(2) whether the SA Police Service (SAPS) will allow the PSC to investigate any matters of violation of the rules and regulations governing such recruitment and appointments; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1602E

REPLY:

(1) All the appointments as referred to were made in terms of the South African Police Service Regulations, 2008, which govern the appointment of Generals, Major Generals and other high ranking officers in the South African Police Service.

(2) The South African Police Service would support an investigation by the Public Service Commission.

Reply received: June 2012

QUESTION NO 1304

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 18 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 13-2012)

Date reply submitted: 12 June 2012

1304. Dr P J Rabie (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) What is the monetary value of the illegal abalone that was confiscated by the South African Police Service (SAPS) in the 2010-11 financial year;

(2) (a) how many members of the SAPS in the Overberg are currently under investigation for alleged (i) abalone smuggling, (ii) abalone poaching and (iii) illegal transportation of abalone and (b) what is the status of each specified case?

NW1514E

REPLY:

(1) The monetary value of illegal abalone confiscated is R40 456 220-00

(2)(a)(i)(ii)(iii) One(1) SAPS member is under investigation.

(2)(b) Status of investigation: Case remanded to 28 May 2012.

Reply received: June 2012

QUESTION NO 1284

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 18 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 13-2012)

Date reply submitted: 12 June 2012

1284. Mrs S V Kalyan (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether the SA Police Service has any policy regulating its members' wearing or displaying of cultural or religious symbols; if not, why not; if so, what is the policy?

NW1490E

REPLY:

No, the SA Police Service does not have a policy regulating its members' to wear or display cultural or religious symbols.

The SA Police Service has a Dress Order regulating the wearing of uniform and civilian dress by its employees, but this Order does not allow for the wearing of cultural or religious symbols.

The SA Police Service is in a process to review the Dress Order.

Reply received: June 2012

QUESTION NO 1277

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 18 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 13-2012)

Date reply submitted: 12 June 2012

1277. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether a certain police station (name furnished) (a) rotates or (b) has rotated the responsibility of a certain station commander (details furnished) to more than one person since 1 January 2011; if so, what are the relevant details;

(2) whether the said position is permanently filled; if not, why not; if so, (a) what is the name of the person who has been appointed and (b) when was this person appointed?

NW1481E

REPLY:

(1) Yes. The post of Station Commander: Bergville police station was rotated from 1 January 2011 until the post was filled. The rotation was as follows:

Captain NIA Ndlovu - 4 July 2011 to 15 August 2011

17 October 2011 to 14 November 2011

20 February 2012 to 23 March 2012

Captain ME Hlalele- 19 September 2011 to 17 October 2011

28 November 2011 to 8 January 2012

26 March 2012 to 6 May 2012

Captain PB van den Berg- 15 August 2011 to 19 September 2011

10 January 2012 to 20 February 2012

(2) Yes. Major GC Mtshali was appointed as Station Commander: Bergville on 1 May 2012.

Reply received: June 2012

QUESTION NO 1275

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 18 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 13-2012)

Date reply submitted: 12 June 2012

1275. Ms E More (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(a) How many crimes perpetrated against a child in each specified category of crime have been reported since 1 January 2006 and (b) how many of these crimes in each category (i) were investigated and (ii) how many such investigations led to a successful conviction?

NW1476E

REPLY:

Due to the high volume of information that is required we are not able to provide the details within the given time frame as the information is obtained from the Provinces. The information is now being collated.

Reply received: July 2012

QUESTION NO 1269

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 18 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 13-2012)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2012

1269. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) has established a deadline to conclude a memorandum of understanding with the State Security Agency regarding the security screening of its members; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details;

(2) whether the SA Police Service has made any provision for the replacement of professional personnel in the case where they are found to be ineligible or unsuitable; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1468

REPLY:

(1) No, there is currently no fixed or agreed deadline between the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) and the State Security Agency to conclude a memorandum of understanding for the security screening of IPID's members. However, there are discussions between the two Departments on this matter. The IPID intends to finalise the matter during the current financial year.

(2) Yes, the South African Police Service Employment Regulations, 2008, provides for a system for the management of performance and development of employees and for the managing of unsatisfactory performance, in which case a process to have the employee discharged may be initiated. The South African Police Service Employment Regulations, 2008, further provides for the filling of posts which become vacant in the Service, which posts may inter alia be filled through an advertisement and selection process.

Reply received: June 2012

QUESTION NO 1267

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 18 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 13-2012)

Date reply submitted: 12 June 2012

1267. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) With reference to his reply to question 534 on 2 May 2012, what statistics did the SA Police Service (SAPS) record during the period 1 January 2009 up to the latest specified date for which information is available, indicating (a) the number of personnel in the SAPS whose integrity was found wanting, (b)(i) results of random entrapment and (ii) areas where high levels of such occurrences were recorded, (c) results of tests conducted for the abuse of drugs or alcohol and (d) the number of SAPS members not adhering to Regulation 11 of the regulations for the operation of the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID);

(2) what are the details of specific procedures applied to test the integrity of members of the Directorate;

(3) whether he has noted any trend in this regard; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1466E

REPLY:

(1) It should be noted that Regulation 11 of the Regulations for the Operation of the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) Act, 1 of 2011 only applies to the integrity testing of members of the IPID, and not to members of the SAPS.

(2) The procedures applied for the integrity testing of members of the IPID are set out in sub-regulations 11(2) to 11(14) of the Regulations for the Operation of the IPID Act.

(3) No trends have been noticed yet.

Reply received: June 2012

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 1244

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 11 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 12-2012)

Date Reply submitted: 29 May 2012

1244. The Leader of the Opposition (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the South African Police Service (SAPS) is collaborating with the Department of Health to establish centres to ensure that victims of rape are provided with the necessary counselling and are reasonably informed of the options available to them; if not, why not; if so, (a) when can we expect to see a roll-out of these centres, (b) what will his department do to train officials to be deployed to those centres and (c) how will these centres work with his department in retaining evidence;

(2) whether the SAPS is working with schools to create awareness about (a) rape and (b) sexual abuse; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1443E

REPLY:

(1) Yes, the SAPS collaborates with the Department of Health and other Departments that are part of the interdepartmental structures that deal with rape and sexual offences and victim services to provide centres, like the Thutuzela Care Centres (TCC), for victims of rape and Sexual Offices. SAPS is, however not the lead department for the establishment of multi-disciplinary victim centres. The establishment of TCCs that provide specialised services for victims of sexual offences is led by the NPA, supported by other Departments including Health, Social Development and SAPS. Social Development is the lead department for the Victim Empowerment programme and has also initiated the establishment of multi-disciplinary victim centres.

The SAPS has the following specific responsibilities in respect of the victim empowerment programme:

· Training of SAPS members to provide a victim friendly service and to deal with specific statutory responsibilities for victims of domestic violence, sexual offences and child victims.

· Ensuring that police stations are friendly to victims which includes the provision of dedicated victim support rooms at police stations and other police service points.

· Issuing and implementing instructions to ensure that all police stations and units provide a victim friendly service in terms of the SAPS requirements included in the Service Charter for Victims of Crime.

· Participating in interdepartmental initiatives to establish multi-disciplinary service centres for victims of crime, in particular victim of gender-based violence.

(a) As SAPS is not the lead department for establishment of multi-disciplinary victim centres like the Thuthuzela Care Centres, hence the Service cannot respond to this question.

(b) The SAPS has a Victim Empowerment learning programme included in its annual funded in-service training programme. Specific victim support content is also included in the in-service training learning programme for Domestic Violence and Sexual Offences. It is also a focus in the specialised training for investigators of Sexual Offences. These learning programmes are all accredited and training statistics are captured on the training administration system. The Domestic Violence Learning programme is also included as a module in the SAPS Basic training programme.

(c) SAPS works with the partner departments to develop operating procedures for multi sectoral victim centres. These operating procedures provide for process to be followed to obtain and process evidence and spells out the roles and responsibilities of police officials deployed at the centre or assigned to provide a service at the centre on a standby basis. There may be slight differences in procedures in different centres, depending on local circumstances but the main responsibilities of the SAPS would include the following:

· Explaining the rights of the victim and the process to be following and assisting her/him to access other services or support needed when the case is reported (for example emergency medical assistance, or contacting a family member to support her).

· Providing a trained police official to take the first statement from the victim to open the case.

· Taking the victim, with the relevant forms and evidence collection kit ("crime kit") to a medical practitioner to collect physical evidence.

· Following the processes needed to access PEPs.

· Investigating the case and keeping the victim informed of progress and the processes involved.

(2) (a) and (b) Yes, the SAPS in collaboration with the Department of Basic Education implements various preventative programmes in support of safer schools. The aim of School Based Crime Prevention Programmes is geared at making schools a safe and secure environment free from violence and crime, conducive for learning. The relationship has been formalised through the Implementation Protocol on Crime and Violence in Schools which was signed between both Departments in April 2011, reinforces the partnership through the linking of police stations to schools; establishing Safe School Committees; and implementing joint Crime Prevention Programmes.

In regard to sexual offences, prevention programmes in schools are also a focus of the interdepartmental team dealing with rape and sexual offences in terms of which the Education departments, developed specific prevention initiatives, supported by Social Development, Health, NPA, Justice and Constitutional Development and SAPS. These programmes deal with gender education and are also referred to as the Boys and Girls Education movement.

SAPS support to these programmes take place through the Safe Schools programme. Learners are encouraged to report any form of abuse to the SAPS. The primary focus however is to build resistance and resilience amongst learners to crime and violence and also from victimisation and offending behaviour.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 1215

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 11 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 12-2012)

Date Reply submitted: 29 May 2012

1215. Mr N J van den Berg (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

What amount has the SA Police Service spent on (a) catering and (b) entertainment (i) in the (aa) 2007-08, (bb) 2008-09, (cc) 2009-10, (dd) 2010-11 and (ee) 2011-12 financial years and (ii) since 1 April 2012?

NW1412E

REPLY:

(a)(i) The amounts spent on catering are the following in:

(aa) 2007/08 R36 609

(bb) 2008/09 R3 749 639

(cc) 2009/10 R23 621 634

(dd) 2010/11 R22 810 787

(ee) 2011/12 R22 179 573

(ii) Since 1 April 2012 R1 049 269

(b)(i) The amounts spent on entertainment are the following in:

(aa) 2007/08 R14 779 476

(bb) 2008/09 R16 785 855

(cc) 2009/10 R3 839 929

(dd) 2010/11 R1 758 529

(ee) 2011/12 R2 579 856

(ii) Since 1 April 2012 R86 698

In respect of the tendencies in spending over the stated period, it will be noted that between 2008/09 and 2009/10, either a decrease or increase in the two line items occurred. The reason for these trends is the changes introduced by the National Treasury on the Standard Chart of Account structure (SCOA). The aforementioned arrangement allowed for a reclassification of the specific expenditure (products or services). Both these categories of expenses include, but is not limited to: (a) Catering for lekgotla's, conferences, bosberade, workshops, indabas, courses, forums, hearings and meetings held with the intention to discuss the governments' or departments' initiatives; (b) Catering for a function for the launching/roll-out of a product of the department or division within a department; (c) Catering for interviews or training sessions; (d) Eatery provided for members of standing boards, other government bodies and official commissions or committees of enquiry.

In respect of entertainment, it relates mostly to expenditure incurred by members of the Senior Management Service (SMS) in performance of their duties. Such expenditure includes, but is not limited to luncheon meetings held with colleagues, foreign delegations and/or other individuals in and outside the public sector.

I am not happy with the amounts spent particularly on entertainment and will be looking into this matter. I believe that Police Management must be held accountable for spending of the department's budget and intend to do this over the next two months.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 1199

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 11 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 12-2012)

Date Reply submitted: 29 May 2012

1199. Mr M Waters (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the Resource Allocation Guide (RAG) is currently being reviewed or updated; if not, (a) why not, (b) when last was the RAG reviewed or updated and (c) how often should it be done; if so, when will the reviewed or updated RAG come into effect;

(2) what are the (a) current RAGs and (b) reviewed or updated RAGs for all categories of personnel at all Gauteng police stations?

NW1396E

REPLY:

(1) The Resource Allocation Guide (RAG) has been reviewed (formulae and Guide). The year 2011 was dedicated for RAG consultations and review within the SAPS Organizational Development Component. This coincided with the police stations structural review. It took a considerable time for consultation with station management, provincial management, national management and SSSBC. Yes, the RAG is being updated regularly. The last time it was done was in 2009/2010. The current practice is that RAG is reviewed annually, but since 2010/11 challenges relating to data integrity were observed. The SAPS management then initiated the RAG Review processes which commenced in 2011.

Organizational Development has received all input data, (statistical information used to determine the workload of each police station and assist police management to determine the classification or category of a police station) and is finalizing the allocation for each province. Once that is completed, all provincial commissioners will be given their allocations for provincial and draft police stations. The Provincial Commissioners will determine their final allocations based on the granted posts. This RAG allocation will be for the 2012/13 financial year and is scheduled to be finalized by the end of July 2012.

It must be appreciated that the task had to take some time in order to ensure data integrity and quality control. Given the fact that it was for the first time in many years the SAPS had to restructure at all levels in one financial year, due diligence in change management had to be followed to the latter.

(2)(a) The current RAG 2011/2012 for Gauteng police stations is:

Post Levels

15

14

13

12

10

8

7

1-6

Total

Police Stations:

0

0

46

192

860

3262

4733

18644

27737

Province

1

7

21

125

356

1092

1810

6414

9826

TOTAL

1

7

67

317

1216

4354

6543

25058

37563

(2)(b) The RAG for 2012/13 is in the process of Management Decision and it will be unfair to give such information before management takes a decision.

Noting that there will continue to be questions on the RAG, it is requested that the SAPS be afforded the opportunity sometime in the year to explain the whole process undertook in the determination of the structures and how the RAG fit it to the structure as well as the allocation criteria the saps is currently utilizing.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 1198

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 11 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 12-2012)

Date Reply submitted: 29 May 2012

1198. Mr M Waters (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether any police officers in Gauteng underwent firearm shooting practice in (a) 2008, (b) 2009, (c) 2010 and (d) 2011; if not, why not; if so, (i) how many (aa) police officers underwent shooting practice at each police station, (bb) hours were spent practicing in (aaa) total and (bbb) on average for each police officer, (cc) round of ammunition was used and (dd) of these police officers are (aaa) low risk and (bbb) medium risk in each case and (ii) what are the minimum requirements that a police officer must meet in order to undergo shooting practice;

(2) what is the (a) optimal and (b) actual allocation for each police station within Gauteng, with regard to (i) reactive police officers, (ii) detectives, (iii) administrative police officers, (iv) civilian staff, (v) bullet proof vests, (vi) two-way radios in working condition, (vii) cellular phones for senior personnel and (viii) vehicles for (aa) reactive police officers, (bb) senior personnel and (cc) detectives?

NW1395E

REPLY:

(1) Total number of members in Gauteng Province attended shooting practice during the calendar years,2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011:

(a)

CALENDAR YEAR

2008

Total number of SAPS Act Members Attending Shooting Practice

16647

(b)

CALENDAR YEAR

2009

Total number of SAPS Act Members Attending Shooting Practice

21447

(c)

CALENDAR YEAR

2010

Total number of SAPS Act Members Attending Shooting Practice

16154

(d)

CALENDAR YEAR

2011

Total number of SAPS Act Members Attending Shooting Practice

13332

(i)(aa) Total number of members at each police station attending shooting practice in Gauteng Province per calendar year 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011:

POLICE STATIONS

2008

TOTAL

16647

POLICE STATIONS

2009

TOTAL

21447

POLICE STATIONS

2010

TOTAL

16154

POLICE STATIONS

2011

TOTAL

13332

(bb), (aaa) The number of hours spent in practicing:

Calendar Years

2008

2009

2010

2011

Total number of hours spent on Shooting Practice

133176

171576

129232

106656

(bbb)

Members spend an average of 8 hours at the shooting range during shooting practice. This time includes not only shooting but also activities which relate to the safe handling of a firearm. Depending on the level of skill demonstrated during practice, members may spend more or less time than the average of 8 hours.

(cc)Total number of rounds of ammunition used:

Calendar Years

2008

2009

2010

2011

Total number of rounds of ammunition used on Shooting Practice

832350

1072350

807700

666600

Members spend an average of 50 rounds at the shooting range during shooting practice. Depending on the level of skill demonstrated during practice, members may utilize more or less rounds during a shooting exercise than the average of 50 rounds.

(dd), (aaa)Total number of members at low-risk and medium-risk category:

TOTAL NUMBER OF MEMBERS ATTENDING LOW RISK SHOOTING PRACTICE

PROVINCE

2008

2009

2010

2011

PROVINCIAL COMMISSIONER GAUTENG : POLICE STATIONS

1661

2150

1643

324

(bbb)

TOTAL NUMBER OF MEMBERS ATTENDING MEDIUM RISK SHOOTING PRACTICE

PROVINCE

2008

2009

2010

2011

PROVINCIAL COMMISSIONER GAUTENG : POLICE STATIONS

14986

19297

14511

6109

(ii)

A member must be undergoing training in basic police development or must have complete basic training.

(1) The position in question is not a new post created, it is the redesign of structures and alignment with global phenomenon both in the public and the private sector. The DNC Management Services was renamed DNC Chief Operations Officer.

(b) There are no additional costs to the SAPS as the post was vacant and funded.

(c)(i) The post was advertised both internally and externally.

(c)(ii) It was filled through an appointment in terms of section 27 and 28(2) of the South African Police Act, 68 of 1995.

(2) The roles of the COO in relation to other Deputies is that her office is responsible for the following enabling environments, which cut across the responsibilities of other Deputy National Commissioners, Divisions and Provincial support and operational functions:

· Organizational Development

· Strategic Management

· Corporate Communication

· Corporate Support Services

· Internal Audit

· Presidential Protection Services

· Institutional Reform

(3) The position of Operations Officer has been established in every province.

(4)(a) Yes all provinces had their posts advertised internally and externally in the National Media.

(4)(b) The relationship of Deputy Provincial Commissioners and Operations Officers is based on the same principle as that of COO and DNC's.

(5) Yes. All provinces had their posts filled.


I have taken note of the issue raised by the Portfolio Committee and the Chairperson of this committee (during the Police budget vote) as a result I will be looking closely at both the appointment process and role being played by these new appointments.

Reply received: June 2012

QUESTION NO 1197

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 11 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 12-2012)

Date reply submitted: 12 June 2012

1197. Mr M Waters (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) With reference to his reply to question 1140 on 26 April 2011, when will the placement of police members at the Family Violence, Child Abuse and Sexual Offences (FCS) units be completed;

(2) whether any progress has been made since 26 April 2011 with regard to ensuring that all FSC police members have undergone and passed (a) psychometric testing, (b) detective training and (c) any other specified specialised training; if not, why not; if so, (i) which of these specified categories have they not passed, (ii) when will each of these police members undergo the testing again and (iii) how are they able to work at the FCS units without the necessary training;

(3) with reference to his reply to question 1672 on 25 July 2011, what are the names of the other police precincts that each of the FCS units are responsible for within their respective clusters?

NW1394E

REPLY:

(1) Placement of members is already in process and will be completed by 30 June 2012.

(2) (a) Yes, at the end of 31 March 2012, 1527 members had already undergone and passed psychometric testing.

(b) Yes, 1727 members are trained on Family Violence, Child Protection and Sexual Offences; Detective Learning Programme (FCSDLP) Course.

(c) 31 Members trained on the KINSA (Kids Internet Safety Alliance) Course.

(i) None.

(ii) None.

(iii) Not applicable.

(3) The names of Police Stations that each of the FCS units are responsible for within the respective clusters is attached (Annexure).

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 1100

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 4 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 11-2012)

Date Reply submitted: 29 May 2012

1100. Dr H C van Schalkwyk (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) (a) What are the (i) yearly rental and (ii) floor space of the (aa) current and (bb) previous premises occupied by his department's head office and (b) when (i) was the current building occupied and (ii) does the current lease expire;

(2) whether his department publicly invited tenders prior to the leasing of the current premises; if not, why not; if so, (a) when, (b) where was it published and (c) which (i) companies and (ii) properties were shortlisted;

(3) what (a) floor space was offered and (b) annual rental was tendered (i) by each shortlisted company and (ii) with regard to each shortlisted property?

NW1288E

REPLY:

(1)(a)(i) An amount of R54 019 504 is paid on a yearly basis for the rental of the premises.

(1)(a)(ii)(aa) The floor space is 41 928.56 m².

(1)(a)(ii)(bb) There were no previous premises leased for the South African Police Service's Head Office.

(1)(b)(i) The premises have been occupied since the 1980s (the Department of Public Works cannot provide the exact date the premises were occupied).

(1)(b)(ii) The current lease will expire on 28 February 2019.

(2) No, the South African Police Service does not procure any leased accommodation as the Department of Public Works is responsible for the procuring of all leased accommodation on behalf of State Departments including the SAPS.

(2)(a) Not applicable.

(2)(b) Not applicable.

(2)(c)(i) Not applicable.

(2)(c)(ii) Not applicable.

(3) Not applicable.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 1069

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 4 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 11-2012)

Date Reply submitted: 29 May 2012

1069. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether a certain person (name furnished) has been formally discharged from the SA Police Service (SAPS); if not, (a) why not, (b) who is responsible for actioning his discharge and (c) when will he formally be discharged; if so,

(2) whether he is still receiving any benefits from (a) the SAPS, (b) his Ministry or (c) any other government entity; if not, how was this conclusion reached; if so, (i) from which entity is he still receiving benefits, (ii) what is the full extent of the benefits that he is receiving and (iii) what is the monetary value of the specified benefits?

NW1256E

REPLY:

(1) He has not been discharged.

(a) His contract of employment expired on 2009-08-01.

(b) The President.

(c) His contract already expired.

(2) (a) No.

(b) No.

(c) He is receiving normal retirement benefits from the Government Pension

Administration Agency (GPAA) as he contributed to the fund and is therefore entitled to the subsequent benefits. He is also receiving the normal Polmed benefits applicable to a pensioner.

(ii) and (iii) The extent of the benefits that he is receiving from the GPAA is not known to this department as it is a confidential matter between the GPAA and the relating pensioner.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 1021

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 4 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 11-2012)

Date reply submitted: 29 May 2012

1021. Mrs M A A Njobe (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether he has a system in place to monitor the way in which the Secret Service manages its funds; if not, why not; if so, what are the (a) details of the (i) alleged unfettered expenditures of a certain person (name furnished), (ii)(aa) recruiting and (bb) funding of secret agents and (iii) breakdown of expenses and payments from its funds since the 2009-10 financial year and (b)(i) Police and (ii) Public Finance Management Act, Act 1 of 1999 (PFMA), rules, regulations and provisions that they rely on when accessing these funds;

(2) whether these rules, regulations and provisions are adhered to; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1127E

REPLY:

(1) and (2) Secret Services as defined in the Secret Services Act, Act 56 of 1978 means that part of the functions of a Department of State which, in the opinion of the President or the responsible Executive Deputy President or Minister, is of such a nature that it is in the national interest that the performance thereof is not directly or indirectly made known, and which is funded from the account known as the Secret Services Account.

Thus the purpose of the Secret Services Account is to fund such activities as carried out by the intelligence function of the South African Police Service (SAPS).

The intelligence function of the SAPS is accountable to a Parliamentary Committee, known as the Joint Standing Committee on Intelligence (JSCI), pertaining to its intelligence and counter-intelligence functions, which include its administration, financial management and expenditure. This is in compliance with the Intelligence Services Oversight Act, Act 40 of 1994.

The above questions by the honourable member, Mrs MAA Njobe, can unfortunately not be answered without exposing certain covert procedures and methodology utilized by the said intelligence function.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 1020

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 4 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 11-2012)

Date Reply submitted: 29 May 2012

1020. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) (a) How many necklace murders were committed (i) in (aa) 2009, (bb) 2010 and (cc) 2011 and (ii) during the period 1 January 2012 until the latest specified date for which information is available and (b) in which (i) town or city and (ii) province these murders were committed in each case;

(2) whether he has identified reasons why communities (a) take the law into their own hands and (b) commit necklace murders; if not, in each case, what is the position in this regard; if so, what reasons, in each case?

NW986E

REPLY:

It is not possible to provide the details within the given time frame as the information will have to be obtained from the Provinces.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 1019

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 4 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 11-2012)

Date reply submitted: 29 May 2012

1019. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) What did the costs for security services for the SA Police Service in each specified province in the (a) 2009-10, (b) 2010-11 and (c) 2011-12 financial years amount to;

(2) (a) why have these services been suspended and (b) who will now provide these services;

(3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

NW985E

REPLY:

(1)(a),(b) and (c) The actual expenditures in relation to security services in each province (excluding national competencies) for the financial year 2009/10, 2010/11 and 2011/12, were the following:

Provinces

2009/10

Financial Year

2010/11

Financial Year

2011/12

Financial Year

Western Cape

R10,799,906

R12,993,972

R16,638,708

Northern Cape

R1,840,778

R2,598,940

R3,029,736

Free State

R7,159,983

R8,806,091

R15,160,009

Eastern Cape

R8,633,449

R12,554,348

R14,817,008

KwaZulu-Natal

R16,524,389

R21,467,412

R14,560,500

Mpumalanga

R2,472,485

R3,659,629

R4,336,891

Limpopo

R5,834,521

R6,325,894

R11,032,434

Gauteng

R40,123,548

R43,209,402

R41,551,311

North West

R6,834,022

R7,959,344

R9,363,021

Total

R100,223,081

R119,575,032

R130,489,618

(2)(a) The respective Ministers in the Justice, Crime Prevention and Security (JCPS) Cluster decided that the cluster should look at ways of providing their own security instead of making use of private security services. Furthermore as part of the aforementioned initiative and due to the sensitivity and nature of their jobs, the Criminal Justice System (CJS) agreed to look at different approaches regarding security within their respective departments.

(2)(b) The provision of security is part of the generic functions that needs to be performed by a police officer. A phased in approach will be followed by the SAPS whereby the functions which were previously performed by security officers will be done by police officers.

(3) No.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 1010

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 26 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 10-2012)

Date reply submitted: 29 May 2012

1010. Mr D J Stubbe (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether information is available on the number of persons who died in police custody; if not, why not; if so, (a) how many people died in holding cells at police stations across the country in the (i) 2009-10, (ii) 2010-11 and (iii) 2011-12 financial years and (b) what is the breakdown of the causes of death of persons held in custody for each of these years?

NW1192E

REPLY:

a)

(i) In 2009-10 the ICD received 294 notifications of deaths in police custody,

(ii) In 2010-11 the ICD received 257 notifications of deaths in police custody and

(iii) Statistics for 2011-12 has not been released yet, as it is still undergoing a verification process and approval by the Minister.

b)

(i) In 2009-10 a total of 97 cases were related to injuries sustain in custody, 104 cases were related to injuries sustain prior to custody and 93 cases were due to natural causes.

(ii) In 2010-11 at total of 64 cases were related to injuries sustain in custody, 80 cases were related to injuries sustain prior to custody and 113 were due to natural causes.

(iii) Statistics for 2011-12 has not been released yet, as it is still undergoing a verification process and approval by the Minister.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 992

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 26 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 10-2012)

Date reply submitted: 15 May 2012

992. Ms E More (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the detectives working at the Tembisa police station are expected to work (a) overtime and (b) over weekends without being compensated; if so, (i) why and (ii) who took this decision;

(2) whether unpaid overtime and weekend work is common practice; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, what are the relevant details;

(3) how many (a) detectives are currently working at the Tembisa police station, (b) dockets does each detective currently carry and (c) vehicles are available to the detective unit;

(4) whether any detectives are allowed to take the vehicles home with them after work; if so, (a) which detectives, (b)(i) how and (ii) by whom is this determined and (c) what compensation is offered to the other detectives who are not allowed to take police vehicles home with them?

NW1171E

REPLY:

(1)(a) Yes, the detectives at Tembisa Police Station are expected to work overtime.

(1)(b) Yes, the detectives at Tembisa Police Station are expected to work overtime over weekends.

(1)(b)(i) When there are no funds available for overtime remuneration and the services of detectives are needed, the detective commander and the detectives concerned agree that overtime duties will be performed voluntarily and that rest days shall be taken in lieu of remuneration.

(1)(b)(ii) The decision to voluntary perform overtime duties in lieu of rest days, if the services of members of the SAPS are needed, was a collective agreement by the Bargaining Council between the employer (SAPS) and the labour organizations.

(2) No, unpaid overtime and work over weekends is not a common practice. Members are remunerated for overtime duties performed if funds are available, and if no funds are available, overtime duties are voluntarily performed after an agreement between members and their commanders in lieu of rest days was reached.

(3)(a) Eighty-seven (87) Detectives are currently working at Tembisa Police Station.

(3)(b) The average number of case dockets on hand per detective at the Tembisa Police Station is between 60 and 80 case dockets.

(3)(c) Thirty-three (33) vehicles.

(4) Yes, detectives are allowed to take vehicles home after work.

(4)(a) Detectives who are performing standby duties, overtime duties and those who have to conduct investigations after the normal working hours are authorised to take vehicles home.

(4)(b)(i) These detectives apply for authorisation to use vehicles after hours by completing form SAPS 132(G) in terms of Special Force Orders (G). 3A,1987. These applications are recommended by the detective commander and approved by the station commander.

(4)(b)(ii) The detective commander evaluates the merits of the application, and if satisfied, recommends the application and the station commander approves the application.

(4)(c) There is no other compensation except their monthly salary, for detectives who are not allowed or authorised to take police vehicles home with them.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 958

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 26 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 10-2012)

Date reply submitted: 15 May 2012

958. Mr D J Stubbe (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether any (a) mechanisms and (b) protocols are in place at police stations to ensure that suspects of serious crimes and minor offences are kept in the separate holding cells; if so, what are the relevant details in each case; if not, why not, in each case;

(2) whether he intends to implement such mechanisms; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1134E

REPLY:

(1) Yes. National directives are in place at police stations to ensure that suspects of serious crimes and minor offences are detained separately in police detention facilities. Standing Order (General) 361 makes specifically provision for the separate detention of various categories of persons in custody. Furthermore, a National Plan to prevent escapes from custody was compiled and circulated via letter 37/1/8 dated 20 October 2011 to all Provincial Commissioners for implementation at police stations. The aforesaid National Plan provides clear guidelines on how to deal specifically with suspected persons arrested for serious offences and minor offences and read as follows: "Suspected persons arrested for minor offences must under no circumstance be detained with suspected persons arrested for serious offences and must only be detained as a last resort".

(2) Not applicable.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 938

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 26 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 10-2012)

Date Reply submitted

938. Ms A van Wyk (ANC) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) (a) How is the 28% expenditure of the allocated budget for the SA Police Service, building environment, by the end of the third quarter, projected to impact on service delivery and (b) what are the reasons for this under expenditure;

(2) whether his department will forego the allocation that was not spent; if so, how will it impact on the medium term strategic plan of his department?

NW1113E

REPLY:

(1)(a) There will be a delay in the delivery of projects which will also have an impact in future financial years.

(1)(b) Reasons for under spending include:

- Non-performance of contractors, appointed by DPW including liquidations e.g. Amalia, Diepsloot etc. (Projects in mora.)

- Lengthy legal processes to be followed when terminating contracts.

- The re-measurement of remaining work on a project in order to appoint a second contractor.(a) The SAPS has one security service contract.

(b)(i) There are forty eight (48) service providers that are on contract 19/1/9/1/143TP (07). These service providers are utilized on an as and when required basis, the companies are:

Khuphukani Security Services

Binang Security cc

Chippa Protection Services

Mamputla Security Services

Afri Guard Security

M & M Professionals

Sechaba Protection Service

Protea Coin

Khuselani Security and Risk Management

Vimtsire Protection Services

Tsogile Foundation Security Train & Serv

Nomaduka Security

Good Sherpard Security

Eastern Guard Security

Tshedza Protection Services

Naphakade Security Services

Umkhombe Security Services

Mijayeli Security (Pty)Ltd

Bekezela Cleaning & Security Services

Bosasa Operations (Pty)Ltd

Sukuma Security Services

Most Khoza Enterprise

Hlanganani Protection Services

Royal Security cc

Lamabera Security Services

Fidelity Security Services

Milisa Security (Pty) Ltd

Tradefirst 2035 cc

Juslo Security Services

Triotic Protection Services

Armed Security Services

Sehlopa Guards (Pty)Ltd

Masithulela Protection Services

Freedom Fighters

Metro Security Services

Executive Armed Security

Ukhuphanta Protection Services

Trust Loss Control Services

Afguard Security

Telesafe

Mabotwane Security

Xhobani Security Services

Zack-Jack Security Services

Born to Protect

Sibongile Security Services

Manetrade 168(Pty)Ltd

Specialized Security Services

Mafoko Security Patrols

(b)(ii) Companies are providing security services and perform guard duties at SA Police Service premises as and when required.

(b)(iii) The financial value of each individual contract per service provider cannot be determined as it is utilized on an as and when required basis by all the provinces and divisions within SAPS. However, the total estimated expenditure on the contract for security services over the three (3) year period is as follows:

2009/2010 Financial year R 160 932 092.00

2010/2011 Financial year R 199 939 102.00

2011/2012 Financial year R 209 675 092.00

(b)(iv)The contract period is for three (3) years up until the end of June 2012.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 936

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 26 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 10-2012)

Date reply submitted: 15 May 2012

936. Ms A van Wyk (ANC) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) (a) What is the total number of overseas trips that were undertaken by officials of the SA Police Service in the 2011-12 financial year and (b) for each trip undertaken, what (i) were the names of the officials who undertook the trip and (ii) was the (aa) purpose and (bb) outcome of each trip;

(2) what (a) amount was spent on each trip in total and (b) is the breakdown of the amounts spent on (i) accommodation, (ii) daily allowance, (iii) transport and (iv) any other specified costs?

NW1111E

REPLY:

(1)(a) The total number of overseas trips undertaken by the officials of the SAPS in 2011/12 financial year is 218. The total number of officials is 919.

(1)(b)(i)(ii)(aa) Trips undertaken by SAPS officials cover a large range of issues, amongst others the trips would be for attendance of Interpol related matters, Regional Police Chiefs meetings including attendance of sub-committees within the SADC region. Trips further include attending conferences and or training relating to peace keeping, trans-national crimes, investigative matters. Other trips are of an operational nature where follow-ups are carried out within the context of organized crime and other criminal matters.

Given the fact that trips are inclusive of matters relating to investigations and some of the investigations are still continuing, giving names of members and outcome of each trip might have a negative impact towards resolving crimes that are being investigated.

(1)(bb) The South African Police Service overseas trips are undertaken within the context of Government's Priority eight (8) which reads "Pursuing African advancement and enhanced International cooperation. Furthermore these trips are in furtherance of outcome 11 (eleven) which reads "Create a better South Africa and contribute to a better and safer Africa and the World.

In the context of above, trips would differ in purpose and could be for attendance of training, providing training, investigation regionally or internationally, attendance to Interpol meetings, SARPCCO meetings, contribution to SADC election observer missions, study tours, attendance of UN peace keeping meetings, attendance to EU peace and security consultation meetings etc. Outcome or impact of SAPS involvement within the international sphere which require members to travel cannot be realized immediately. Investigations take long, impact of for example offering training or receiving training will be realized long after such activities has taken place.

(2)(a)(i)

Accommodation

R22 959 409

(2)(a)(ii)

Daily allowance

R24 371 968

(2)(a)(iii)

Transport

R30 670 433

(2)(a)(iv)

Food and beverages

R206 558

Incidental cost

R3 233 430

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 929

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 26 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 10-2012)

Date reply submitted: 15 May 2012

929. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) How many members of the SA Police Service (SAPS) (a) have not passed the examinations for a competency certificate to possess a firearm in terms of the Firearms Control Act, Act 60 of 2000, and (b) must still sit for the said examinations;

(2) what steps are being taken in case a member of the SAPS has not passed the examinations in terms of Act 60 of 2000 for a competency certificate to possess a firearm;

(3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

NW982E

REPLY:

(1)(a) As on 3 May 2012, 6 334 members are not yet competent in terms of the Firearms Control Act, Act 60 of 2000 (Did not pass). This figure will constantly change as members receive remedial training and become competent and some of those that are assessed for the first time will be found not yet competent. Remedial training and re-assessment are done in accordance with Departmental development policy.

(1)(b) As on 3 May 2012, 60 021 members that are currently in the Service, must be assessed. This figure includes the ones that were found not yet competent, those that are currently in the process of training/assessment and those that yet have to be scheduled for training.

(2) Members of SAPS that have not passed the examinations in terms of Act 60 of 2000 for a competency certificate to possess a firearm; are given opportunity to do remedial training and be re-assessed as a form of intervention. The National Commissioner has tasked a committee to consolidate all instructions regarding firearm competency in the SAPS.

One of the desired outcomes will address the issue of members that either cannot obtain or maintain their competency. The committee has not finalized this matter.

(3) No.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 928

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 26 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 10-2012)

Date reply submitted: 15 May 2012

928. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

With reference to his reply to question 416 on 19 March 2012, what is the detailed analysis of the number of (a) black, (b) white, (c) brown and (d) Indian members of the SA Police Service who were promoted in the (i) 2010-11 and (ii) 2011-12 financial years (aa) in each province and (bb) in each separate rank?

NW981E

REPLY:

(1) (a)(b)(c)(d)(i):The following number of members were promoted in each province in each rank during the 2010/2011 financial year see attached.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 922

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 20 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 9-2012)

Date reply submitted: 15 May 2012

922. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) What is the current status of the SA Police Service's Metro Police policy;

(2) whether he intends to table the policy in the National Assembly; if not, why not; if so, (a) when and (b) what are the relevant timeframes for (i) deliberation and (ii) implementation;

(3) whether his Deputy Minister's statement that it is not about abolishing offices but about creating better security clusters (details furnished) represents his department's position on the Metro Police; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1104E

REPLY:

The document is still being discussed in the department and at the Executive level. Once this process is finalized other processes will follow.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 920

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 20 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 9-2012)

Date reply submitted: 2 May 2012

920. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the final authority to request an interception order on behalf of the Directorate for Priority Crime Investigations (Hawks) remains the prerogative of the Head of the Directorate for Priority Crime Investigations; if not, (a) why not and (b) which person has higher authority to request an interception order on behalf of the Hawks;

(2) whether, since the inception of the Hawks, any other person within the SA Police Service requested an interception order on behalf of the Hawks; if not, why not; if so, (a) which person and (b) on what grounds can the said person make requests on behalf of the Hawks?

NW1102E

REPLY:

(1) In terms of section 16 the Regulation of Interception of Communications and the Provision of Communication-related Information Act, 2002 (Act No. 70 of 2002), any "applicant" may apply to the designated judge for an interception direction. An applicant includes any officer of the South African Police Service, if the officer concerned obtained in writing the approval in advance of another officer in the Police Service with at least the rank of assistant-commissioner (Major General) and who has been authorised in writing by the National Commissioner to grant such approval.

Any officer of the Directorate for Priority Crime Investigation (DPCI) may therefore apply to the designated Judge for an interception direction. Neither the head, nor any other officer on the rank of Major General in the DPCI, is however, authorized in writing by the Acting National Commissioner to approve any application for an interception direction to the designated Judge. Should an officer of the DPCI want to make an application for interception, it must be made through the Crime Intelligence Division.

(2) Investigators of other units are not authorised to make applications "on behalf of the DPCI". In practice, however, all applications to the designated Judge must be approved by an officer of the South African Police Service, which at present does not include any officer in the DPCI. It cannot therefore be stated that the final authority for applications for interception directions is with the Head of the DPCI.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 910

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 20 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 9-2012)

Date reply submitted: 15 May 2012

910. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) What is the current status of the draft White Paper on Peace and Security;

(2) whether he will table the White Paper on Peace and Security in Parliament for deliberations; if not, why not; if so, (a) when and (b) what are the (i) time frames and (ii) further relevant details?

NW1090E

REPLY:

The final draft of the White Paper is currently being discussed at the JCPS cluster before being presented to Cabinet.

The White paper will be tabled in Parliament for discussion by July 2012

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 856

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 20 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 9-2012)

Date reply submitted: 15 May 2012

856. Ms E More (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether any other persons (details furnished); have been arrested in the 2011-12 financial year for withholding personal documents; if not, why not; if so, (a) how many persons have been arrested, (b) in which provinces and (c) how many personal documents did they have in their possession?

NW1033E

REPLY:

The requested information is not available at National Head Office and a request thereof was forwarded to the Provincial Commissioners. As soon as feedback is received from the Provincial Commissioners, the question will be answered correctly.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 853

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 20 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 9-2012)

Date reply submitted: 2 May 2012

853. Mr M Waters (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

With reference to the 2010 antenatal HIV prevalence survey report that girls as young as 10 are falling pregnant and are being infected with HIV/Aids, how many charges of statutory rape or rape have been laid against persons for impregnating minors in each year since the report has been published?

NW1030E

REPLY:

The information required is not readily available and must be obtained from all the Provinces within the country. Once the information is received it will be forwarded.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 844

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 20 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 9-2012)

Date reply submitted: 15 May 2012

844. Mr D J Stubbe (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(a) What is the (i) name and (ii) designation of each person who currently receives protection from the VIP protection unit, (b) why do the specified persons receive VIP protection and (c) since what date have they received such protection?

NW1021E

REPLY:

(a)(i)(ii) and (b)

The protection of a VIP is informed by REMAS in terms of which protection is provided when an individual or group of individuals, who act in the interest of the country or whose safety is of significant importance to the country, and whose safety and security is either manifestly threatened or likelihood of their safety and security being threatened is high.

(c) Executives entitled to VIP protection would be protected immediately after a threat assessment report has been considered.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 843

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 20 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 9-2012)

Date reply submitted: 15 May 2012

843. Mr D J Stubbe (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) How many VIP protection unit personnel are at any given time permanently deployed to guard (a) the President, (b) the Deputy President, (c) the Speaker of the National Assembly and (d)(i) each specified Minister and (ii) Deputy Minister;

(2) what is the rank of each official in each specified category?

NW1020E

REPLY:

(1)(a)(b)(c)(d)(i)(ii)

Given the national security implications of the questions related to the security of the Executive of South Africa, disclosure of the number of members deployed will compromise the security of the Executive of South Africa. This question cannot be responded to.

(2) The rank of close protectors is from Constable to Major General.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 828

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 20 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 9-2012)

Date Reply submitted: 29 May 2012

828. Mrs J D Kilian (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) How many persons serving in the management structure of his department (a) on a (i) permanent and (ii) contract basis (b) in the (i) 2009-10 and (ii) 2010-11 financial years have been suspended on full salary pending investigations or disciplinary action for periods exceeding three months before the relevant investigations or disciplinary processes were concluded;

(2) (a) what total accumulated amount has been paid as (i) salaries and (ii) benefits to specified persons during the period of their suspension and (b) how many persons in the above categories (i) resigned before disciplinary action was concluded and (ii) were dismissed following due process and disciplinary hearings;

(3) whether he laid criminal charges against any persons following investigations or disciplinary hearings where fraud or corruption was found to have taken place; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details;

(4) whether any amounts have been recovered in terms of the Public Finance Management Act, Act 1 of 1999, following findings of fraud and corruption; if not, how does he intend to comply with national legislation compelling authorities to report corrupt practices to the law enforcement agencies; if so, what amounts have been recovered;

(5) how many persons in positions from deputy director to director-general have been (a) found guilty of gross financial misconduct or negligence and (b) dismissed?

NW1002E

REPLY:

(1) None.

Financial

Year

(a)

Total number of persons served in the management structure in South African Police Service suspended on full salary pending investigations or disciplinary action for periods exceeding 3 months -

Total

(i)

Permanent

(ii)

Contract basis

(b) (i) 2009 - 2010

0

-

0

(b) (ii) 2010 -2011

1

-

1

Total

1

0

1

(2)

(a)

Total accumulated amount paid to specified person during the period of their suspension

(b)

The total number of persons in the categories that -

(i)

(ii)

(i)

(ii)

Salaries inclusive of Benefits

Resigned before disciplinary action was concluded

Dismissed

R 520 945 ,25

0

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(3) No. No member of the management structure (SMS) was charged criminally for fraud and corruption.

(4) No. No records in respect of a fraud debt could be found on the debtors system.

(5) (a) and (b): None

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 812

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 20 APRIL 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 9-2012)

Date reply submitted: 15 May 2012

812. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the bank account of the Crime Intelligence Division (CID) has been frozen as a result of the suspension of a certain person (name furnished); if not, (a) for what period was this bank account frozen, (b) why and (c) what steps did he take to ensure CID could pay informants; if so, (i) for what period has the bank account been frozen, (ii) why and (iii) what measures has he put in place to ensure that Crime Intelligence can pay informants;

(2) whether he will make a statement in this regard?

NW980E

REPLY:

(1) This is a matter that is being investigated by the Inspector General and we will await the outcome of this investigation.

(2) No.

Reply received: June 2012

QUESTION NO 786

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 16 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 8- 2012)

786. Mr S C Motau (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether any officials from (a) his department and (b) any entities reporting to him were on an official visit to Bloemfontein in (i) December 2011 and (ii) January 2012; if so, in each case, what (aa) is the (aaa) name and (bbb) position of the specified official, (bb) was the (aaa) purpose and (bbb) date of such visit and (cc) was the cost of (aaa) transport, (bbb) accommodation and (ccc) other expenses?

NW957E

REPLY:

Every year SAPS launches Operation Duty Call when SAPS officials (including Head Office officials and Provincial officials) are deployed to different part of the Country to ensure a Safer Festive Season. During December 2011 and January 2012 such deployments would have occurred in the Bloemfontein area. In additional persons would have been deployed to Bloemfontein on special projects and to follow up investigations as is the normal practice of SAPS.

To compile a full list of all officials who visited Bloemfontein during this period would require a cross referencing of all divisions and sections within the organization (including checking all investigation logs etc). Such information would require an extensive compilation of all information that is not readily available on the system.

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 722

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 16 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 8- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

722. Mrs A Steyn (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether any progress has been made with regard to the investigation into the cases of the disappearance of two persons (names furnished); if not, (a) why not, (b) how many police officers are investigating each case, (c) what is the rank of each investigating officer and (d) how many cases is each officer investigating concurrently; if so, what are the relevant details in each case?

NW887E

REPLY:

The investigation into the disappearance of the two persons is conducted in case docket Orlando CAS 751/07/2011 (kidnapping) and in Moroka CAS 117/08/2011 (kidnapping). The missing persons have been circulated as missing at the Bureau for Missing Persons, as well as with Interpol, and their photographs are also circulated on the National Photographic Image System. Their disappearance was widely reported on in the printed media. Several leads were followed up in Hillbrow, Mamelodi, Sebokeng and Welkom, and their cellular phone records were obtained, but with negative results.

(a) Up to date, both missing persons could not be traced and there were no leads as to their whereabouts.

(b) Both case dockets are investigated by only one investigating officer each, but they are assisted by other members of the SAPS, if and when the need arises.

(c) The investigating officer in Orlando CAS 751/07/2011 is a captain at the Family Violence, Child Protection and Sexual Offences Unit (FCS) in Orlando Cluster, and in Moroka CAS 117/08/2011 the investigating officer is a sergeant at the FCS Unit of Moroka Cluster.

(d) The investigating officer in Orlando CAS 751/07/2011 has three other case dockets on hand, which are about charges of rape, sexual assault and kidnapping.

The investigating officer in Moroka CAS 117/08/2011 has ten other case dockets on hand, which are about charges such as rape, child abuse, sexual assault and kidnapping.

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 665

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 4 MAY 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 11-2012)

Date Reply submitted: 29 May 2012

665. Ms L H Adams (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police: (Interdepartmental transfer on 4 May 2012)

(1) How many (a) police officers on active duty have failed the firearms proficiency test during the 2010-11 financial year and (b) of the specified police officers have access to official service weapons;

(2) what action does he intend to take with regard to police officers who continually fail the firearms proficiency test?

NW824E

REPLY:

(1)(a) According to the Training Administration System (TAS) of the SAPS, 5 138 members were found not yet competent in terms of the competency test during the 2010/11 financial year. This does not mean that the same members are still not competent, as members receive remedial training and are re-assessed.

(1)(b) All members of the South African Police Service have access to official firearms when they are on duty unless they have been declared unfit to possess a firearm in terms of firearms legislation.

(2) Members of the SAPS that have not passed the examinations in terms of Act 60 of 2000 for a competency certificate to possess a firearm are given opportunity to do remedial training and be re-assessed as a form of intervention. The National Commissioner has tasked a committee to consolidate all instructions regarding firearm competency in the SAPS. One of the desired outcomes will address the issue of members that either cannot obtain or maintain their competency. The committee has not yet finalized this matter.

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 659

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 16 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 8- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

659. Ms N P Gcume (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether the SA Police Service intends establishing (a) police forums and (b) street committees in (i) rural areas and (ii) townships headed by headsmen in these respective areas; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW818E

REPLY:

Yes.

(a) The South African Police Service Act, 1995 (Act No.(b) (i) and (ii) The Rural Safety Strategy that was recently implemented by the South African Police Service, encourages participation by the community in community crime prevention initiatives and specifically provides for the active participation and involvement of traditional and tribal structures.

CPF structures and substructures, are used to enhance community participation and involvement in Sector Policing in urban and rural police station areas, and are further complemented by the establishment of specific rural safety committees at rural police stations to support the implementation of the Rural Safety Strategy.

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 658

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 16 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 8- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

658. Ms N P Gcume (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether, with reference to the discovery of (a) human trafficking and (b) a child sex syndicate in Durban, any arrests of the culprits have been made; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW817E

REPLY:

(a) & (b) Yes.

4 Suspects have been arrested. The National Prosecuting Authority has issued Warrant of Arrests for 2 outstanding suspects.

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 647

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 16 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 8- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

647. Mr R N Cebekhulu (IFP) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) How many police stations have been built in rural areas in the past five financial years;

(2) whether these specified police stations are fully operational; if not, (a) why not and (b) how many are not fully operational; if so, (i) how many are fully operational and (ii) what are the further relevant details;

(3) what are the (a) number and (b) types of cases that have been opened at these police stations?

NW806E

REPLY:

(1) Eight (8) police stations, namely Jane Furse, Matoks (Sekgosese), Gamasemola, Mooifontein (Ditsobotla), Hebron, Bhisho, Lady Frere and Pienaar have been built in rural areas in the past five financial years (1 April 2007 until 29 February 2012).

(2) Yes.

(2)(a) Not applicable.

(2)(b) Not applicable.

(2)(b)(i) and (ii) All of the eight (8) above-mentioned police stations are fully operational.

(3)(a) and (b) The number and types of cases that have been opened at the above mentioned police stations for the past five financial years are attached. The crime statistics for the 2011/2012 financial year have not been released yet.

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 646

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 16 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 8- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

646. Mr R N Cebekhulu (IFP) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether the police station that was built in Ntombanana, Mambuka traditional area, with the assistance of a certain company (name furnished) is fully operational; if not, why not; if so, (a) when did the police station commence its operations fully and (b) what are the further relevant details?

NW805E

REPLY:

The satellite police station that was built in Ntombanana, Mambuka traditional area was donated by Transnet and not built by BHP Billiton.

No. There is currently no electricity at the police station.

(a) Not applicable.

(b) The electricity connection to the police station is still being attended to by the Department of Public Works.

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 635

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 16 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 8- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

635. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) What (a) crimes, up to the latest specified date for which information is available, have been declared as priority crimes and (ii) criteria are used to determine whether a crime should be declared a priority crime and (b) who declares the crime as such;

(2) what additional action is the SA Police Service taking in regard to priority crimes?

NW793E

REPLY:

(1)(a) (i) No crimes were declared as priority crimes.

(ii) There are no criteria to declare a specific category of crime as a priority crime.

(1)(b) There is no specific person or body who declares a crime as a priority.

Crime categories or different types of crime are not declared priority crimes. Different crimes come to the fore as priorities through regular operational and strategic analysis, which informs strategic and operational decision-making at the various levels of policing. If a crime is at a relatively high level and persists at that level, increases significantly and/or has a major negative impact on the feelings of security in any area of jurisdiction (whether station, provincial or national level), it will be identified through analysis as a problem that needs additional attention.

There are also certain forms of crimes that are prioritised, based on inter-governmental processes and that the Police must pay particular attention This is largely based on the impact of these crimes.

(2) Not applicable.

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 634

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 16 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 8- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

634. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the SA Police Service (SAPS) is paying any legal costs in respect of the disciplinary enquiry of a certain person (name furnished); if so, (a) why, (b) in terms of what criteria and (c) how much have the legal costs amounted to at the latest specified date for which information is available;

(2) whether he has taken any steps to ensure that these legal costs can be recovered from the said person; if not, why not; if so, what steps;

(3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

W791E

REPLY:

(1) Yes

(a) The official applied due to the nature of the matter that arose as a result of his official position;

(b) No specific criteria was applied, except that consideration was given to the fact that the enquiry was prompted by decisions he allegedly took in his official capacity; also as advised by the State Attorney. Further, this is assistance covering the entire enquiry starting with the chairperson, persons assisting him and the prosecution team, all of them being legal practitioners.

(c) It is not possible to provide an amount at this stage due to the fact that the enquiry is not finalised;

(2) Yes, an undertaking was signed by the official should there be a need to recover.

(3) This is to be decided upon the completion of the enquiry

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 620

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 9 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 7- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

620. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) What are the specific conditions under which a certain person (name furnished) was allowed to be armed with an R5 rifle;

(2) whether he underwent any psychometric testing; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details;

(3) what (a) is the status of the investigation into the death of a certain person (name furnished), (b) steps will be taken against anyone found guilty of misconduct and (c) steps will be taken to prevent such incidents?

NW786E

REPLY:

(1) The condition under which the certain person was allowed to be armed with a R5 rifle is the subject of an investigation which is being conducted by the Independent Complaints Directorate (ICD).

(2) Yes Psychological Services assessed the certain person when he first became a reservist is 2005.

(3)(a) The investigation is currently underway and is being conducted by the ICD.

(3)(b) If the ICD finds that there are any substantial allegations of misconduct a recommendation will be made to the South African Police Service regarding the institution of disciplinary steps.

(3)(c) This matter is still being investigated.

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 617

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 9 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 7- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

617. Mr D J Stubbe (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Why were the gun licences of certain persons (names furnished) reinstated after they confessed to the murder of a certain person (name furnished);

(2) whether the reinstatement of the gun licences was granted in adherence to his department's position on suspects who have confessed to murder and who have become state witnesses owning firearms after having been given indemnity; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW783E

REPLY:

(1) The Minister has not commissioned an investigation as to why the gun licences of the certain persons were reinstated after confessing to the murder of the certain person. An investigation was not commissioned by the Minister because the Divisional Commissioner responsible for Visible Policing, Lieutenant General Mothiba, had already commissioned an investigation.

The preliminary finding of the investigation was that the gun licences were not reinstated. They were never revoked in the first place, nor were the firearms seized by the Scorpions who were responsible for the criminal investigation. An investigation has however been initiated to establish whether the said persons are still fit to possess firearms in the light of their confessions of being involved in the murder of the certain person.

(2) The position of the Department is that when a suspect confesses to murder and is provided with indemnity, an enquiry should still be held in terms of Section 102 of the Firearms Control Act to establish whether that person is fit to possess a firearm/s.

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 597

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 9 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 7- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

597. Dr P J Rabie (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether he intends to upgrade the offices of the SA Police Service in Struisbaai; if not, (a) why not and (b) what is the position in this regard; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW763E

REPLY:

No.

(a) This service was not prioritized and is therefore not included in the SAPS Strategic Plan for the 2011/2012 to 2015/2016 financial years. Only work or upgrades that are planned and budgeted for are included in the SAPS Strategic Plan.

(b) The Capital Works priorities for the 2012/2013 financial year and the budget allocations have already been finalized and furthermore the budget for 2012/2013 financial year is fully committed.

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 578

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 9 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 7- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

578. Mr J H Steenhuisen (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the SA Police Service has an internal audit unit; if not, why not; if so, (a) how many staff members are employed in the unit and (b) what (i) is the structure and (ii) are the functions of the unit;

(2) whether the audit committee considers the internal audit reports; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details;

(3) whether he holds meetings to discuss (a) the internal reports and (b) their findings with the audit unit; if not, why not, in each case; if so, (i) on what dates since 1 April 2010 has each specified meeting taken place and (ii) what are the further relevant details?

NW743E

REPLY:

(1) The SA Police Service has an internal audit unit established in terms of Section 38 of the PFMA.

(1)(a) The Unit has a staff complement of 219 members (161 auditors, 44 support members and 14 interns)

(1)(b)(i) The Unit is placed at the level of Major General who reports administratively to the Accounting Officer and functionally to the Audit Committee. There are nine Brigadiers responsible for the Unit in the province and in the Head Office there are four Brigadiers responsible for namely: Risk Based Audit, Forensic Audit, Information Technology Audits and Performance Audit.

(1)(b)(ii) The functions of the unit are as follows;

- Render an effective internal audit service in order to improve governance, risk management and control process, evaluate internal controls in order to provide a reasonable assurance that the department will achieve its objectives.

- Evaluate the effectiveness of information technology processes within the department against the relevant control framework (Cobit)

- To investigate any allegation of fraud and corruption referred to the unit.

- To evaluate whether the departmental resources are utilized economically, effectively and efficiently.

(2) Internal Audit reports are tabled in the Audit Committee meetings on a quarterly basis. The Committee reviews the reports and such reports form the basis of the annual Audit Committee Report on the effectiveness of the internal control. If, where necessary there are any clarity seeking issues contained in the report, the Committee consults directly with management to resolve such issues and/or request relevant management to attend the audit committee to answer to those issues.

(3) The internal audit committee reports directly to the office of the National Commissioner

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 534

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTIONS PAPER: 8 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTIONS PAPER NO.7 - 2012)

Date reply submitted: 2 May 2012

534. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the SA Police Service intends to screen (a) existing and (b) new members of the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID); if not, why not; if so, what (i) progress has been made in conducting the integrity tests for the newly established IPID to ensure that officers are fit for the job and (ii)(aa) disciplinary measures and (bb) specified penalties have been put in place for members who do not comply or pass the tests;

(2) Whether his department has improved case management systems to include regularly informing (a) victims and (b) complaints on the progress of their cases; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details.

NW668E

REPLY:

(1)(a) and (b) In terms of sub-sections 8(4) and 22(4) of the Independent Police Investigative Directorate Act 1 of 2011, the security screening of members of the IPID must be done in conjunction with the National Intelligence Agency (now State Security Agency), as referred to in section 3 of the Intelligence Services Act 2002 ( Act No. 65 of 2002). The IPID is in the process to conclude a Memorandum of Understanding with the State Security Agency regarding the security screening of its members.

(i) Section 26 of the Independent Police Investigative Directorate Act 1 of 2011 makes provision for the integrity testing of its members, including random entrapment, testing for the abuse of alcohol or drugs, and ascertainment of the truthfulness of a statement made by a person. Regulation 11 of the Regulations for the operation of the IPID furthermore specifies the procedures to be followed to test the integrity of any particular member of the Directorate.

(ii)(aa) and (bb) Sub-sections 8(7), 8(8) and 22(7) deal with the withdrawal of a security clearance certificate and the discharge of a member in respect of whom a security clearance certificate has been withdrawn.

Sub-regulations 11(9), 11(10) and 11(11) of the Regulations for the operation of the IPID make provision for disciplinary measures and penalties in respect of refusal to submit to a polygraph examination or other relevant test and results and findings that impacts adversely on the integrity of a member .

(2)(a) and (b) The Independent Police Investigative Directorate has established an improved case management system that makes provision for the generation of correspondence, including progress and feedback reports to complainants and victims. All correspondence generated on the system is recorded. Provision has also been made for the recording of any incoming correspondence.

Sub-regulations 3(3) and 3(4) of the Regulations for the operation of the IPID specify the timelines applicable to the registration and confirmation of complaints and referrals within 7 (seven) days of receipt of complaints or referrals.

Sub-regulations 4(7) and 5(5) of the Regulations for the operation of the IPID specify the timelines applicable for the provision of monthly written progress reports to complainants and victims.

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 533

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 9 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 7- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

533. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether he intends to eliminate the (a) structural and (b) systematic defects led to the Constitutional Court judgement last year that found that the Directorate for Priority Crime Investigation (Hawks) was not sufficiently independent from political influence to operate as a graft-busting unit; if not, why not, in each case; if so, what are the relevant details in each case?

NW685E

REPLY:

The South African Police Service Amendment Bill has been tabled in Parliament. This bill addresses the issues raised by the Constitutional Court and the honourable member. The matter will now be debated in Parliament. As a member of Parliament the honourable member will be entitled to make his input if he feels there are deficiencies

Reply received: May 2012

QUESTION NO 518

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 9 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 7- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 2 May 2012

518. Mrs L S Chikunga (ANC) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) (a) What is the current status of the investigation into a certain murder (details furnished), (b) why has the witness not been contacted and (c) what is the role of the Independent Complaints Directorate in this case;

(2) whether any suspect has been arrested; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW668E

REPLY:

(1)(a) The investigation into this matter is complete. The docket has been forwarded to KwaMaphumulo Magistrate's Court for decision with regards to inquest.

(1)(b) The witness was interviewed and he submitted a 5 page statement on 2008-10-01.

(1)(c) The ICD was not involved in the investigation of Lt Col Chonco's murder. However, during the arrest of suspects linked to this matter, the suspects resisted arrest by shooting at police and police had to return fire which resulted in all 5 suspects being killed in separate incidents. The ICD is investigating the death of these suspects.

(2) Yes, there were 5 suspects arrested and all 5 suspects are now deceased.

See attached

Reply received: April 2012

QUESTION NO 517

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 9 MARCH 2012

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 7- 2012)

Date reply submitted: 17 April 2012

517. Mrs L S Chikunga (ANC) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the procurement of certain items (details furnished) were approved on 22 April 2010; if not, what is the correct information regarding the procurement, including the cost; if so, (a) when were these items procured, (b) how did his department ensure that the process was fair, equitable, transparent, competitive and cost-effective and (c) why were these items procured from outside South Africa;

(2) whether these items were procured on (a) tender or (b) quotation basis; if so, what are the relevant details in each case;

(3) whether these items were budgeted for; if not, why not; if so, under which programme;

(4) whether his department reported on the procurement of these items in the 2010-11 annual report; if not, why not; if so, where;

(5) whether these items were planned for in the Annual Performance Plan or the Strategic Plan for the department; if not, why not; if so, where?

NW667E

REPLY:

(1) No.

(a) The procurement of the following items was approved on 23 April 2010:

Ø Gloves Protection - R 1 524 704.00

Ø Jacket, Leg and Arm Guards - R 39 145 592.00

with shoulder padding

Ø Overalls: Thermal Body - R 15 736 560.00

Protection

Ø 40mm Grenade Launcher - R 13 050 000.00

and Ammunition

Ø Ballistic CS Cartridge - R 9 400 000.00

Ammunition

Ø Ammunition Carry Case - R 2 211 250.00

The procurement of the following item was approved on 3 May 2010:

Ø Helmet, Gas Mask and - R 15 319 656.00

Canisters

(b) The Division Supply Chain Management received the quotations that had been sourced by the Division Human Resource Development and these quotations were then dealt with by Supply Chain Management in terms of the applicable prescripts.

(c) A formal evaluation committee meeting was held at Division Supply Chain Management and all samples received were evaluated. The quotations were recommended by the Bid Adjudication Committee and approved by the National Commissioner, for local and international providers, based on compliance to specifications and the highest points received.

(2) All of these mentioned items were procured on a quotation basis.

(3) The items procured were budgeted for under Programme 2: Crime Prevention and the sub-programme Visible Policing. The 2010 Estimates of National Expenditure, page 492, refers to the funding levels that allowed for the procurement of general equipment and security requirements for the 2010 FIFA World Cup.

(4) Page 67 of the 2010/11 Annual Report for the SA Police Service reported on the security provided during the hosting of the 201 FIFA World Cup in as far as the operational requirements are concerned. No specific reference was made to the procurement of these specific items in the Annual Report of the department. However, the actual expenditures incurred were included, in amongst others, the Standard Chart of Accounts classification category of Payments for Capital Assets, Machinery and Equipment. The details are reflected on page 179 of the 2010/11 Annual Report of the SA Police Service.

(5) The Annual Performance Plan for the SA Police Service for the 2010/11 financial year makes reference of the strategic priorities for the 2010/11 financial year. The Strategic Priority: Budget and Resource Management (Page 4 of the 2010/11 Annual Performance Plan) included amongst others, specific focus on budget planning for critical items, including vehicles and light bullet-resistant vests.