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QUESTION NO 1804

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 1 JULY 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 19- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 08 August 2011

1804. Mrs D Robinson (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether the Resource Allocation Guide (RAG) is currently being reviewed or updated; if not, (a) why not, (b) when was the RAG last reviewed or updated and (c) how often is the RAG required to be reviewed or updated; if so, (i) when will the reviewed or updated RAG take effect and (ii) what are the (aa) current and (bb) reviewed or updated guidelines for all categories of personnel at police stations in Gauteng?

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REPLY:

Yes, the Resource Allocation Guide for police stations is currently being reviewed. Since 2004, the South African Police Service has adopted an in-house information technology-based solution for the determination of the number and levels of posts for police stations. This program was reviewed on an annual basis based on identified organizational needs. In January 2011 Organizational Development initiated a total review of the current Resource Allocation Guide (RAG) for police stations. The first phase of the project was to evaluate the current norms, standards and criteria used in the determining of posts, and to align the stations' functional structure with the current organizational needs and strategic direction.

Under normal circumstances information required for the RAG is gathered on an annual basis from January to March every year. The previous data gathering process and RAG review was concluded for the 2010/2011 financial year. The annual gathering of required information (crime, internal and external environmental information etc) to calculate the resource requirements of police stations for 2011/2012 was put on hold awaiting the approval of the reviewed RAG as discussed in paragraph 1. Continuing with the process would have lead to fruitless expenditure as the reviewed RAG requires updated and more detail information.

A consultation process was initiated in February 2011 and representatives from Organizational Development on national and provincial level were briefed and tasked to consult with stakeholders on station, cluster, provincial and divisional level. Inputs received from the respective stakeholders were perused to identify aspects to be addressed in this study. New promulgated acts, approved departmental policies, instructions and regulations were taken into consideration where applicable. Consultation with stakeholders is already in its final phase and a final draft "Resources Allocation Guide for Police Stations, Satellite Police Stations and Contact Points" was compiled. This guide will be presented to the SAPS National Management Forum in August 2011 for approval. This guide includes detail criteria applied to calculate human resource requirements at station level.

The data gathering process with associated templates have also been reviewed and now includes a computerized integrity check to optimize data integrity. The data gathering process for 2011/2012 RAG will be initiated as soon as aforementioned guide is approved.

The updated RAG for police stations includes detail criteria for all categories of personnel and is generic to all police stations in the country. We will be looking into a system to classify categories of police stations according to geographical locations in due cause as this may require intensive scientific adjustment and analysis. A copy of the guide (96 pages) can be made available as soon as it is approved.

Lastly, it is important to note that RAG's for police stations are monitored continuously reviewed as and when provincial Commissioners request upgrades and downgrades. However, the integrity of information continues to be a challenge as statistical information from Statistic South Africa is collected after a term period which may be outside SAPS constant needs. It is our plan in the review process to integrate our systems with the STATSSA, other Government departments i.e Department of Education, Health, DTI etc. Currently we use all population and demographic information as is available on database.

QUESTION NO 1790

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 1 JULY 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 19- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1790. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether there are specified criteria for a member of the SA Police Service (SAPS) to be qualified for placement in the Family Violence, Child Abuse and Sexual Offences Unit (FCS Unit); if not, (a) why not and (b) how are SAPS members (i) chosen and (ii) recruited to the unit; if so, what are the relevant details? NW2020E

REPLY:

There are specified criteria for a member of the South African Police Service (SAPS) to be qualified for placement in a Family Violence, Child Protection and Sexual Offences unit (FCS).

(a) Not applicable.

(b)(i) Operational members (investigators) in the FCS environment will be subject to the following criteria for selection:

Must be appointed in terms of the SAPS Act (Act 68 of 1995);

Must be at least 21 years old;

Must have successfully completed the general course for detectives (Detective Course/Detective Learning Programme/Resolving of Crime);

Must have at least one year's practical experience of detective work;

Must not have any previous criminal convictions or pending criminal investigations;

Must not have any departmental convictions or pending departmental investigations;

Must be willing to undergo a polygraph test, a psychometric test, security clearance vetting and/or a substance abuse test, whenever it is required to do so;

Must be screened in terms of the Children's Act (Act 38 of 2005) (screening Child Protection Register/Sexual Offences Register);

Must submit a Portfolio of Evidence (POE) within 30 days of assumption of duty; and

Must be registered on the SAPS Wellness and Physical Fitness Programme within 60 (sixty) days of assumption of duty.

In addition, unit commanders in the FCS environment must satisfy the following requirements:

Must have proven record of leadership;

Must have successfully completed the general course for detectives (Detective Course/Detective Learning Programme/Resolving of Crime) and the relevant FCS course (Child Protection/Family Violence, Child Protection and Sexual Offences Investigator's Course/Family Violence, Child Protection and Sexual Offences Detective Learning Programme;

Must have at least two (2) years practical experience regarding the policing of FCS related crimes; and

Must have an applicable academic qualification (NQF 6 or higher) or demonstrable managerial experience.

(b)(ii) The procedure for the recruitment of SAPS members to FCS units is as follows:

All employees referred to in paragraph 3 of Head Office letter 3/1/5/1/96 dated 19 May 2010 must complete and submit the Employee Skills Profile to Detective Service on provincial level. This includes employees currently placed in the FCS environment, previously placed in the FCS environment or interested in placement in the FCS environment;

Provincial Implementation Committees (PIC) consider the applications and forward their recommendations to the Provincial Commissioner to be ratified;

The Provincial Commissioner will evaluate and ratify the applications and forward the final placement list to the National Implementation Committee (NIC);

Notices are generated at national level by a technical team and forwarded to the PIC to be served on employees.

QUESTION NO 2117

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 12 AUGUST 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 23- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 06 September 2011

2117. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

With reference to his replies to questions 1208 and 1209 on 24 May 2011 and question 1579 on 25 July 2011, (a) what are the qualifications of each specified senior SA Police Service official in the rank of brigadier up to the rank of general in each province and (b) how many years did each person serve in each rank prior to being promoted to his or her current senior management position?

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REPLY:

(a) The qualifications of each specified senior SA Police Service official in the rank of Brigadier up to the rank of Lieutenant General in each province are attached. It needs to be mentioned that the attached list is system generated, the qualifications of members of the Service are in the process of being updated and verified with SAQA and that the list may be affected by the latest appointments that are in the process of being finalised.

(b) The information on how many years did each person serve in each rank prior to being promoted to his or her current senior management position is not readily available and can only be determined through a comprehensive administrative process.

QUESTION NO 2112

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 12 AUGUST 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 23- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 20 September 2011

2112. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the SA Police Service (SAPS) will be employing all of its cleaning staff on a full-time basis; if so, (a) when will these appointments commence, (b) how many staff members will be appointed in each province, (c) what are the respective categories of salary level according to which these staff will be appointed and (d) what is the breakdown of the total costs involved to appoint these staff, including the cost of the (i) uniforms and (ii) cleaning materials;

(2) what will be the cost if the SAPS were to outsource its cleaning?

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REPLY:

(1) Yes, the South African Police will be employing cleaning staff on a full-time basis.

(a) Salary Level 1

(d)(i)(ii) and (iii) Estimated direct costs are R218,5 million.

(2) A similar amount, as conversion of a baseline amount took place.

QUESTION NO 2084

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 12 AUGUST 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 23- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 06 September 2011

2084. Mrs D A Schäfer (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) With reference to the members of the SA Police Service (SAPS) who were suspended following the visit to the Public Protector's office in March 2011, (a) why were they initially suspended, (b) why was the suspension lifted and (c) what steps have been taken to investigate the matter;

(2) whether the Public Protector was interviewed in this regard; if not, (a) why not and (b) what information formed the basis for finalising the matter;

(3) what was the outcome of the investigation?

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REPLY:

(1) (a) The members were suspended as a precautionary measure to allow the investigation to be conducted.

(1)(b) Their suspension was uplifted following the investigation.

(1)(c) An investigation was conducted by a senior officer who interviewed and obtained statements from all witnesses who could shed light on the matter.

(2) Yes people from the office of the Public Protector were interviewed.

(a) Not applicable

(b) Not applicable

(3) It was concluded that the officials acted within the bounds of the law and the matter was thus finalised. I have also requested a meeting with the Public Protector to discuss this matter with her directly and I am awaiting her response.

QUESTION NO 2077

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 12 AUGUST 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 23- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 06 September 2011

2077. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) In the light of his reply to question 190 on 24 March 2010 and of the fact that

statistics of farm murders and farm attacks are indeed available, how many (a) farm murders were committed and (b) farm attacks took place (i) in (aa) 2007, (bb) 2008, (cc) 2009 and (dd) 2010 and (ii) during the period 1 January 2011 up to the latest specified date for which information is available;

(2) whether the statistics on farm murders and farm attacks are still being presented at the bimonthly meetings of the Rural Security Priority Committee; if not, why not;

(3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

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REPLY:

(1) The South African Police Service does not release operational information to the public.

(2) Yes, however, these meetings now occur on a quarterly basis.

(3) No.

QUESTION NO 2075

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 12 AUGUST 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 23- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 06 September 2011

2075. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the SA Police Service (SAPS) has received any complaints from a certain person (name furnished) or his representatives regarding bomb threats received at his property; if so, in each case, (a) when, (b) where was the complaint lodged, (c) who lodged the complaint and (d) in respect of which property were the bomb threats made;

(2) whether the SAPS has conducted any investigation in respect of each threat; if not, why not; if so,

(3) whether the SAPS has found any bombs, explosive devices or explosives; if so, what type of bomb, device or explosives were found in each case;

(4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

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REPLY:

(1) The Provincial Commissioner of SAPS in Gauteng and Limpopo provinces, where Julius Malema is known to have property verified their records. No complaints of bomb threats were received from Mr Julius Malema or his representative by the SAPS in these two (2) provinces.

(a) Not applicable

(b) No complaints were received/lodged

(d) Not applicable

(2) No investigations were conducted by SAPS as no complaints regarding bomb threats were received/lodged.

(3) Not applicable.

(4) No.

QUESTION NO 2036

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 5 AUGUST 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 21- 2011)

2036. Adv L H Max (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) How many promotions have taken place within (a) his department and (b) the SA Police Service (SAPS) during the period 1 April 2009 to 31 May 2011 (i) in each province and (ii) at the national head office;

(2) for each such promoted member, (a) to which (i) rank and (ii) position was the member promoted, (b) what is the (i) name, (ii) race and (iii) gender of the member, (c) what are the qualifications of the member, (d) which (i) rank and (ii) position did the member hold prior to being promoted, (e) how many years has the member held the specified position before being promoted and (f) what is the total number of years of service of the member;

(3) how many of these promotions were (a) subjected and (b) not subjected to advertisements and interviews?

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REPLY:

(1)(a), (b) (i) (ii) and (2) (a) (i), (b) (ii) (iii) Personnel attached to the Ministry of Police and Secretariat of Police are not promoted but appointed in terms of the prescripts provided for in the Public Service Regulations, 2001. The following number of SAPS members were promoted and appointed (SMS members) during the period 1 April 2009 to 31 May 2011 in each province and at National Head Office (all divisions) see attached.

(2) (a) (ii), (b) (i), (c), (d), (e) and (f) The name, qualifications, rank, position held prior to being promoted, years held in the position before being promoted and the total number of years service for each promoted member, is not readily available and can only be determined through a comprehensive administrative process.

(3) (a) and (b) Promotion to the rank of Sergeant occurs in terms of grade progression and members are promoted in their current posts to the rank of Sergeant. The promotions to Warrant Officer, Captain, Lieutenant Colonel and Colonel occurred mainly in terms of the National Instruction on Promotions which provide for advertisement of posts – interviews were held for posts at Lieutenant Colonel and Colonel level and at other levels as determined by the relevant Provincial / Divisional Commissioner. Promotions to Lieutenant and Major (and some promotions to Captain) occurred in terms of an agreement concluded in the Safety and Security Sectoral Bargaining Council, SSSBC Agreement 2/2011 dated 5 April 2011 – these promotions were not subjected to advertisements and interviews. In addition to the aforesaid, a total of 85 promotions occurred in terms of the provisions provided for in Regulation 45(9) of the SAPS Employment Regulations 2008, which were not subjected to advertisements and interviews.

QUESTION NO 2045

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 5 AUGUST 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 21- 2011)

2045. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether there is a standardised protocol that is being followed by all SA Police Service (SAPS) members in the event of apprehending drivers suspected of driving while under the influence of alcohol; if not, why not; if so, (a) what are the relevant details of such protocol and (b) in terms of which legislation was this protocol implemented;

(2) whether all SAPS members undergo special training regarding the (a) detection and (b) assessment of such drivers; if not, (i) why not and (ii) how does the SAPS ensure that all its members follow the correct protocol; if so, what are the relevant details of such training?

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REPLY:

(1 & 2) The Constitution of the Republic of South Africa, 1996, and the Criminal Procedure Act, 1977 (Act No 51 of 1977) prescribe the procedure to follow in arresting any person for any offence. Members of the South African Police Service have been trained in accordance with those legislative prescripts. Members are trained to interpret the facts which are available to them at the time of considering whether to arrest or not. These facts will differ from case to case and members are trained to establish the facts in every case and to let themselves be guided by the facts. Any deviation from the legislative prescripts will be unlawful and will constitute misconduct in respect of which disciplinary steps are taken against the member. Depending on the deviation, the member=s conduct may constitute a criminal offence in respect of which the member may be charged.

QUESTION NO 1990

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 5 AUGUST 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 21- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 06 September 2011

1990. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether he has been informed that an unofficial reply to question 1088 (details furnished) was circulated in the media; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, why was it (a) not tabled in Parliament and (b) different to the official reply (details furnished) tabled in Parliament?

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REPLY:

I became aware through statements appearing in the newspaper. I have subsequently written to the Speaker of Parliament on this matter

QUESTION NO 1947

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 29 JULY 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 20- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 06 September 2011

1947. Dr S M van Dyk (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(a) How many (i) international flights and (ii) domestic flights were undertaken by (aa) him and (bb) his deputy minister using (aaa) military aircraft, (bbb) chartered aircraft or (ccc) commercial aircraft during the period 1 April 2010 up to the latest specified date for which information is available, (b) what class did he and his deputy minister travel in each case and (c) what amount did his department spend with regard to each specified flight?

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REPLY:

Ministers and Deputy Ministers may use business class / first class travel for official purposes at the expense of their Departments. Official trips include, amongst others, those travelled from Pretoria to Cape Town for Parliamentary Sittings and appearances, as well as international trips, which require Ministers to execute official duties.

All flights are used for official duty and this is an enabling factor for Public Participation Programmes of Ministers who have to meet demanding schedules.

The Ministry (and its support staff) is responsible for determining the cost-effectiveness of all trips carried out by Ministers and Deputy Minister's and ensure that the intended journeys meet the requirements of relevant guidelines.

Please be advised that relevant information from 1 April 2010 to 31 March 2011 can be supplied as it has been audited and checked. Information from 1 April 2011 is not yet available as it has not been audited.

The following flights were undertaken from 1 April 2010 to 31 March 2011

57 local flights were undertaken by myself as Minister of Police. In 46 flights of these flights were in business class and 11 flights were in economy class. All trips were official trips either between Cape Town and Johannesburg or for meeting and/or public participation programmes in other provinces. There was one international flight to Quatar undertaken by myself, to attend the Interpol meeting which was a business class ticket .

The Deputy Minister took office on 1 November 2010 therefore the information is only from 1 November to 31 March 2011.

During this period the Deputy Minister took 29 Domestic flights of which 13 were economy class and 16 were business class. The Deputy Minister undertook two international flights both business class tickets to the USA and Equatorial Guinea..

There were no chartered flights undertaken.

QUESTION NO 1864

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 29 JULY 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 20- 2011)

1864. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether, with reference to his reply to question 1088 on 21 June 2011, an investigation is currently being conducted into the contracts awarded to suppliers for the National Police Day 2011; if not, why not; if so, (a) who is being investigated, (b) who is undertaking the investigation and (c) when will the investigation be completed?

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REPLY:

I stated in my reply to question 1088 that I have instituted an investigation into the awarding of suppliers for National Police Day 2011. The investigation is being conducted by the Auditor General and the date of completion will be determined by the Auditor General.

QUESTION NO 1863

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 29 JULY 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 20- 2011)

1863. Mrs D A Schäfer (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(a) What is the status of the police investigation into (i) a certain person (name furnished) and (ii) the Special Investigating Unit (SIU) as reported in the Cape Times on 11 July 2011, (b) when were the cases opened, (c) who was the complainant, (d) what is the case number, (e) at which police station was it registered, (f) what are the charges in each case and (g) when does he anticipate that the investigation will be finalised?

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REPLY:

(a)(i) A complaint implicating senior members of the Special Investigating Unit (SIU) was received for investigation by the South African Police Service (SAPS). Allegations made in the case relate to alleged irregularities in awarding a tender contract, the alleged failure by senior SIU managers to bring about transformation at the SIU, nepotism and racism. The case is still under investigation.

(a)(ii) See the above.

(b) The case was opened on 6 April 2011.

(c) The SAPS cannot divulge the name of the complainant. The complainant has a right to confidentiality and will be treated as such.

(d) Silverton CAS 83/04/2011

(e) Silverton.

(f) Fraud (tender irregularities).

(g) A definite time frame for finalising the investigation cannot be determined at this stage, as the parties involved cannot be prescribed when to submit their versions to the SAPS. It is not possible to foresee what additional investigation and follow-up might have to be done once the versions of all parties involved have been obtained.

QUESTION NO 1839

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 29 JULY 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 20- 2011)

1839. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) What progress has been made with the recommendations that are to be drafted consequential to the judge's court ruling on the court action involving the SA Hunters and Game Conservation Association (SAHGCA);

(2) when does he intend tabling amendments to the Firearms Control Act, Act 60 of 2000;

(3) whether the proposed amendments will deal with and resolve the grievances of the SAHGCA; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details;

(4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

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REPLY:

(1) There have been a series of meeting with the SAHGCA on this matter and no finality has been reached at this point

(2) The amendments to the FCA were drafted and distributed for comments. Comments have been received and we are now considering all comments and the amendment Bill will be tabled in parliament before the end of the year.

(3) SAHGCA are one of the groups that have been consulted in the drafting of the Amendment Bill

(4) No at this stage

QUESTION NO 1834

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 29 JULY 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 20- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 06 September 2011

1834. Mrs L S Chikunga (ANC) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether any members of the SA Police Service (SAPS) have been discharged from the SAPS in accordance with section 35 of the South African Police Service Act, Act 68 of 1995, in the (a) 2009-10 and (b) 2010-11 financial years; if so,

(2) (a) what are the relevant details with regard to each SAPS member discharged in terms of Act 68 of 1995, (b) how was the interest of the SAPS promoted by such retrenchment, (c) in terms of which provisions of the Act were they discharged and (d) at the time of their discharge, what was the (i) age, (ii) level or rank and (iii)(aa)(aaa) monthly and (bbb) yearly cost of each specified SAPS member so discharged and (bb) total cost of all the specified SAPS members?

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REPLY:

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(1) (a) Yes

(b) Yes

(aaa) and (bbb) No monthly or yearly costs were in incurred by the South African Police Service, only severance pay was incurred by the Service.

QUESTION NO 1833

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 29 JULY 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 20- 2011)

1833. Mrs L S Chikunga (ANC) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether, with reference to his replies to oral questions 28 and 32 on 23 March 2011, the investigation into the unauthorised visit by the two members of the SA Police Service (SAPS) to the office of the Public Protector has been finalised; if not, when will it be finalised; if so, (a) what are the findings of the investigation and (b) what is the status of the two members of the SAPS?

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REPLY:

The investigation into the visit to the office of the Public Protector by the two members of the South African Police Service (the Service) has been finalised.

(a) The findings are that the two police officials visited the office of the Public Protector in the performance of their duties. The officers were acting on an instruction and under the guidance of Senior Management of Crime Intelligence in order to establish whether the official documents that had found their way into the media were a part of the Public Protector's report. The affirmative answer would have concluded the enquiry. However, the opposite answer would have suggested that the documents had leaked from the Service, which would require further investigation by the Service. I have also sought legal opinions on the investigation and these opinions concurred with the findings.

(b) The members were suspended on 4 March 2011 to allow the investigations to be conducted and their suspension was lifted on 13 April 2011.

QUESTION NO 1828

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 29 JULY 2011

INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 20- 2011)

1828. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether (a) he and (b) the SA Police Service have submitted plans and progress reports to the Public Protector in respect of the implementation of remedial action warranted by her in her report No 33 of 2010/11, if not, in each case, what is the position in this regard; if so, when, in each case;

(2) whether his department has taken any disciplinary action against any official or employee following the said report; if not, why not; if so, (a) what action and (b) against whom?

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REPLY:

I have as Minister of Police submitted a full report to the President who in turn has submitted a report to the Speaker of Parliament on this issue. The report covers actions taken and action that is still to be taken.

QUESTION NO 1789

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 1 JULY 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 19- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 08 August 2011

1789. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

How many cases of (a) assault, (b) murder, (c) rape, (d) attempted rape and (e) sexual assault have been filed against members of the SA Police Service since 1 January 2009?

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REPLY:

Total number of cases filed against members of the SA Police Service are as follows:

The information provided is for the financial years 2009/2010 and 2010/2011.

(2)(a)	(b)	(c)	(d) (i)	(d)(ii)		Severance pay
DETAILS	REASON	PROVISION	AGE	LEVEL		SAPS COSTS
2009/2010
Member 1	Re-organization	Sect 35(a)	46	Major General		R 1 054 268.21
Member 2	Re-organization	Sect 35(a)	40	Major General		R 1 165 822.26
Member 3	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	58	Major General		R 1 804 775.28
Member 4	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	57	Lieut General		R 4 462 679.40
Member 5	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	55	Lieut General		R 2 008 538.48
Member 6	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	54	Major General		R 1 686 082.36
Member 7	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	50	Brigadier		R 1 042 003.71
2010/2011
Member 8	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	52	Major General	R 1 423 127.31
Member 9	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	57	Major General	R 1 213 169.85
Member 10	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	58	Major General	R 1 364 556.79
Member 11	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	52	Lieut General	R 1 077 881.65
Member 12	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	54	Major General	R 1 572 791.53
Member 13	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	59	Major General	R 1 706 716.69
Member 14	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	58	Colonel	R 1 114 572.90
Member 15	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	55	Major General	R 1 522 507.82
Member 16	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	57	Lieut General	R 2 194 100.02
Member 17	Re-organization	Sect 35(a)	47	Major General	R 1 488 136.93
Member 18	Re-organization	Sect 35(a)	58	Brigadier	R 1 439 484.09
Member 19	Interest of the Service, economy and efficiency	Sect 35(b)	55	Major General	R 1 866 226.90
				TOTAL	R31 207 442.18

Financial year	Cases filed against members of the SA Police Service
Financial year	(a) Assault	(b) Murder	(c) Rape	(d) Attempted Rape	(e) Sexual Assault	Total
2009/2010	199	35	48	4	30	316
2010/2011	317	45	46	3	41	452
Total	516	80	94	7	71	768

QUESTION NO 1788

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 1 JULY 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 19- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 08 August 2011

1788. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether any members of the SA Police Service (SAPS) (a) have been or (b) are to be sent to another African country on any relevant police matters; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, in each case, (i) what is the name of the country, (ii) which SAPS members have been or are to be sent there, (iii) what are the relevant details of their mission and (iv) what is the total amount spent on sending them there?

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REPLY:

(a) Yes.

(b) Since 2005 under African Union Mission in Sudan (AMIS) as well as under African Union /United Nation hybrid Operation in Darfur (UNAMID), since 2008, SAPS has been deploying police officers to peacekeeping missions.

(i) SAPS have members deployed in Darfur, Sudan.

(ii) 235 Individual Police Officers (IPOs)-Peacekeepers as approved by the Cabinet of 3 September 2008.

(iii) Currently one hundred and thirty three (133) members are already in the mission area, in Darfur and the remaining one hundred and two (102) will be deployed upon receipt of their travel authorization from United Nations Department of Peacekeeping Operations (UNDPKO) through Department of International Relations and Cooperation (DIRCO) to render peacekeeping missions.

(iv) For (133) SAPS members already in the Mission area SAPS has spent a total amount of R9, 209 673, 80.

QUESTION NO 1778

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 1 JULY 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 19- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1778. Mr D A Schafer (DA) to ask the minister of Police:

Whether the docket for a certain case (details furnished) is ready for trial; if not, (a) why not, (b) how long will it take before it is ready and (c) what information is still outstanding; if so, for how long has the docket been ready?

NW2008E

REPLY:

The Docket was fully investigated and placed before the Director of Public Prosecution for a decision whether to Prosecute or not.

(a) The decision on whether the docket is ready for trial has to be made by the Director of Public Prosecution (DPP).

(b) The Director of Public Prosecution (DPP) will have to decide when to place the docket on the court roll for trial.

(c) The decision by the Director of Public Prosecution (DPP) whether to prosecute or not, and when the case will be set down for trial is outstanding. The docket was forwarded to the Director of Public Prosecution (DPP) on 2011-02-14 for a decision to be made.

QUESTION NO 1710

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 24 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 18- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1710. Mr D J Stubbe (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(2) (a) what was the actual budget increase each year, expressed as a percentage, for funds allocated to this sub-programme and (b) how is the increase for each specified financial year justified?

NW1924E

REPLY:

(1)(a)(b)(c)(d)

With effect from 1 April 2011, the National Treasury introduced the Ministry sub-programme that comprises the previous sub-programmes Minister and Deputy Minister, and the element Administration of the Minister that previously resorted under the sub-programme Corporate Services. The structure and format of the sub-programmes of Programme 1: Administration are in accordance with the National Treasury's guidelines. In this regard and effective from the 2008/09 financial year, the current payments relating to the total remuneration package of political office bearers are shown. Before this, only the salaries and car allowances were included. Administrative and other sub-programme expenditure may in addition include payments for capital assets and transfers and subsidies.

A detailed expenditure breakdown is the following:

	2007/08 R'000	2008/09 R'000	2009/10 R'000	2010/11 R'000
Minister	951	1 604	1 729	1 811
Deputy Minister	773	1 328	1 432	1 493
Administration of Minister	22 794	31 289	22 164	15 601
TOTAL	24 518	34 221	25 325	18 905

(2)(a)(b)

The actual spending trends per annum were the following:

From 2007/08 to 2008/09 an increase of 39,6% mainly as a result of the implementation of a new salary dispensation for political office bearers where the total remuneration package is provided for and not only salaries and car allowances. Another aspect was the increase in payments for capital assets as to allow for the replacement of machinery and equipment.

From 2008/09 to 2009/10 a decrease of 26,0% realised in actual terms due to fewer personnel in the Ministry. This arrangement impacted upon all categories of expenditure.

From 2009/10 to 2010/11 a further decrease of 25,3% realised as a result of the continuation of the process that commenced in 2009.

QUESTION NO 1673

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 24 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 18- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1673. Ms E More (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) With reference to his reply to question 1140 on 26 April 2011, when will the placement of SA Police Service members to the Family Violence, Child Abuse and Sexual Offences (FCS) units be completed;

(2) whether any progress has been made since 26 April 2011 to ensure that all FCS police members undergo and pass (a) psychometric testing, (b) detective training and (c) any other specified specialised training; if not, (i) how many of the police officers at each FCS unit who did not undergo the initial testing and specialised training have still not passed each of the specified categories, (ii) which of these specified categories have they not passed, (iii) when will each of these police members at the FCS units be tested again and (iv) how are they able to work at the FCS units without the necessary training?

NW1886E

REPLY:

(1) The identification and placement of members at the Family Violence, Child Protection and Sexual Offences Units (FCS) is a continuous process due to a continuous in and outflow of members (applications for transfer due to changes in personal circumstance, promotions, service terminations, etc).

SEQ CHAPTER \h \r 1(2) Yes

(2)(a) A Provincial Implementation Committee was established in every province to deal with the interim placements. All the members are screened before they are placed at the FCS Units. Only the members who complied to the minimum requirements, were placed at the FCS Units. Sixty six (66) FCS members have undergone psychometric training since 26 April 2011.

(2)(b) Fifty (50) members attended the FCS Detective Learning Programme (FCSDLP) course during May 2011.

(2)(c)(i)(ii) The training of the FCS detectives is a continuous process. Members are nominated to attend the different courses when it is presented. Fifty (50) members attended the FCS Detective Learning Programme (FCSDLP) during May 2011 and another fifty (50) members will attend the course in July 2011. All the members have passed the training in May 2011. Another three (3) courses are scheduled for the rest of this financial year. A total of 250 FCS members will attend the FCSDLP during this financial year.

(2)(c)(iii) The testing and training of the FCS detectives is a continuous process

(2)(c)(iv) The FCS detectives who have not yet attended the FCSDLP, receive daily in-service (on-the-job) training. Guidance is provided by the Unit Commander of the Unit. A member is placed with an experienced FCS member who is responsible for the mentoring of the inexperienced member.

QUESTION NO 1667

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 24 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 18- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1667. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) How many SA Police Service (SAPS) members in each province (a) have been conditionally promoted since 1 January 2011 and (b) will be conditionally promoted;

(2) how many of these specified members (a) are deceased, (b) are due to retire in 2011 and (c) have (i) criminal convictions against them, (ii) criminal investigations pending against them and (iii)(aa) resigned and (bb) retired;

(3) (a) what was and is the rank of each of these specified members (i) before and (ii) after promotion and (b) how many years have each of these members spent in their rank before being promoted;

(4) (a) what criteria are used to determine whether a SAPS member should be conditionally promoted and (b) who decides who should be conditionally promoted;

(5) whether a process is in place to verify whether those identified for conditional promotion meet all the appropriate criteria to be promoted; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1878E

REPLY:

(1)(a) The following number of members in each province have been conditionally promoted with effect from 1 April 2011:

Gauteng 768

Mpumalanga 183

Limpopo 999

North West 542

Free State 407

Northern Cape 108

Western Cape 372

Eastern Cape 766

KwaZulu-Natal 887

(1)(b) None

(2)(a)(b)(c) The information is unfortunately not available at this stage. A verification process is still underway in the provinces to verify the qualification and suitability of members for promotion. The promotion of members who are deceased, have resigned, retired or who have been found not suitable will not be effected.

(3)(a)(i) and (ii) Members holding the rank of Warrant Officer were promoted to Lieutenant or Captain and members holding the rank of Captain were promoted to Major.

(3)(b) The most senior members per race group were promoted in terms of criteria agreed upon in the Safety and Security Sectoral Bargaining Council (SSSBC Agreement 2/2011), which inter alia provides for the following number of years service in the rank, limited to the number of posts available :

Captain to Major: Not less than 8 years service in the rank of

Captain.

Warrant Officer to Captain: Not less than 12 years service in the

rank of Warrant Officer.

Warrant Officer to Lieutenant: Not less than 8 years service in

the rank of Warrant Officer in the case of male members and not

less than 5 years service in the rank of Warrant Officer in the

case of female members.

(4)(a) and (b) The National Commissioner must be satisfied that members qualify and are suitable for promotion. Members who qualified were identified for promotion at National level in terms of available records. The members were, however, conditionally promoted by the National Commissioner to allow for Provincial Commissioners to verify and to determine and confirm the suitability of the members for promotion.

(5) Yes. A due process is currently underway to determine the suitability of members which might be influenced by pending cases/outstanding information/poor performance. The promotions will only become effective upon confirmation from the relevant Provincial Commissioner that the members qualify and are suitable for promotion.

QUESTION NO 1646

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 17 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1646. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether he has found that his department are adhering to the provisions of section 15 of the Judicial Matters Amendment Act, Act 62 of 2000, which empowers the police to release persons that have been arrested for theft and possession of dagga (details furnished) on bail; if not, why not; if so, (a) how widely is this section being applied and (b) what are the further relevant details;

(2) whether the application of this section has reduced the number of petty criminals detained in prisons or holding cells; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, what are the relevant details;

(3) whether police offices at various police stations have been informed about the provisions of this section; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

NW1853E

REPLY:

SEQ CHAPTER \h \r 1

(1) Yes, police officers adhere to and apply the provisions of section 15 of the Judicial Matters Amendment Act, Act 62 of 2000.

(1)(a) The section is applied daily at all police stations by members of the South African Police Service.

(1)(b) Where a person is arrested for a "minor offence" and there are no reasons to oppose bail, offenders are released on a written warning (SAPS 496) to appear in court.

(2) Yes, by applying the section correctly there are significant decreases in the detention of "petty criminals".

(3) Yes, all members of the South African Police Service are conversant with the provisions of the section, and commanders ensure that it is correctly applied.

QUESTION NO 1645

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 17 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1645. Mr L Ramatlakane (Cope) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether the SA Police Service consulted with the Department of Labour and all the relevant stakeholders regarding the implementation of the new shift system for officials working at the criminal record centres; if not, why not; if so, what has he found are the (a) advantages and (b) disadvantages of the new shift system?

NW1852E

REPLY:

Yes, Management within the South African Police Service's Criminal Record and Crime Scene Management at Provincial and the respective Local Criminal Record Centras complied with the provisions of the Safety and Security Sectoral Bargaining Council (SSSBC) Collective Agreement 5/2002 by consulting with employees and shopstewards in the workplace on the implementation of the forty hour flexi system (not the new shift system as referred to in the question). There is no need for the Department of Labour to be consulted on matters of this nature. Negotiations and consultations taking place at the SSSBC level between management and labour representatives consider all labour related policy directives and policy prescripts before / during the signing of the collective agreements.

(a) The advantages of implementing the flexi hour system are amongst others the following:

· Crime scene attendance especially with regard to trio crimes, serious and violent crimes, crimes against women and children will be increased.

· Response time of crime scene management experts in respect of crime scene attendance will be improved.

· Forensic evidence will be lifted within shorter time frames from the scene of crime for further processing within the laboratories.

· The objectives of the Criminal Justice System will be realized.

· Crime scene management experts will be readily available and accessible to attend to crime scenes.

· Service delivery to the community will improve.

(b) Interference from various quarters and uninformed positions against the forty hour flexi system aimed at improving service delivery is the biggest disadvantage.

QUESTION NO 1672

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 24 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 18- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1672. Mr M Waters (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

With reference to his reply to question 1138 on 26 April 2011, where are all the Family Violence, Child Abuse and Sexual Offences (FCS) units situated?

NW1885E

REPLY:

The list of the Family Violence, Child Protection and Sexual Offences Units is attached (Annexure A).

QUESTION NO 1633

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 17 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1633. Mr P J C Pretorius (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether a charge of (a) fraud and/or (b) theft has been brought against certain investment companies (names furnished) at the Hermanus Detective branch of the SA Police Service in September 2009; if so, (i) who brought the charge, (ii) when was the charge brought, (iii) against which of these specified companies was the charge brought and (iv) what is the case number;

(2) whether the charge has been investigated; if not, why not; if so, what was the outcome of the investigation?

NW1838E

REPLY:

SEQ CHAPTER \h \r 1(1)(a) & (b) Yes, a complaint of fraud was registered at SAPS Hermanus on 14 November 2009. Subsequent to this, further complaints were received that are investigated collectively.

(i) The matter is still under investigation and the names of complainants cannot be disclosed at this stage. The investigation focuses on a suspected pyramid scheme involving more than 3 000 investors.

(ii) The initial complaint was registered on 14 November 2009.

(iii) The complaints are levelled against Capital Investments and Avo Investments.

(iv) The police case number cannot be released for the same reason cited in paragraph (i) above. By divulging the case number, it would be possible to obtain the details of complainants.

(2) The matter is still under investigation and on completion it will be forwarded to the National Prosecuting Authority for decision.

QUESTION NO 1615

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 17 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1615. Mr M J Ellis (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether an investigation into the sale and misrepresentation of products which contain fully hydrogenated fats and are passed off as genuine dairy products was carried out by the Commercial Branch of the SA Police Service; if not, what is the position in this regard; if so, what were the (a) findings and (b) outcomes of this investigation?

NW1818E

REPLY:

The Commercial Crime Unit, Durban, has been involved in such an investigation since March 2010. The matter was reported by a member of the public, who complained that certain food chains, hotels, restaurants, shops and food outlets distribute and sell products marked as 'fresh cream', 'cream', and 'butter cream', purporting these to be of a bovine nature, when in fact they were not genuine dairy products. The complaint concerned the alleged misrepresentations of the nature of products i.e. alleged contraventions of section 11(1)(a) read with section 6 of the Agricultural Product Standards Act, 1990 (Act no 119 of 1990).

(a) It was agreed between the public prosecutor, representatives of the Department of Agriculture, and the Commercial Crime Unit, that outlets identified by the complainant and the Department, will be served with prohibition notices informing them to refrain from continuing with such practices, alternatively to correctly advertise the products in question. Furthermore, that the Department will do follow up investigations to ensure compliance by the relevant outlets and, if the alleged practices continue, to prepare an affidavit relating to the specific offences, for further investigation by the Commercial Crime Unit.

(b) To date, no report or affidavit outlining any offence have been submitted by the Department.

QUESTION NO 1610

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 17 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1610. Mr M H Steele (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(a) What are the names of the three suspects who have passed away according to a certain SA Police Service memorandum (details furnished), (b) when did each of these suspects pass away and (c) on what evidence or allegations were they considered to have been suspects in each case?

NW1813E

REPLY:

It is not the practice of the SAPS to reveal the names of, or information regarding suspects in criminal investigations, especially where such persons have not appeared in a court of law in respect of any charges leveled against them. Particulars of criminal investigations that have not been heard in court, cannot be disclosed.

QUESTION NO 1598

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 17 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1598. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority (PSIRA) performs a background check on persons before they register a private security company; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details;

(2) which criterion should a person meet in order to register a private security company;

(3) whether a certain private security company (name furnished) has been registered through the PSIRA; if so,

(4) whether a background check was run on the owner of the said company (name furnished); if not, why not; if so, (a) what is the position with regard to applications for registering the private security companies of persons against whom charges of conspiring to commit a cash-in-transit robbery have been laid and (b) what are the further relevant details?

NW1800E

REPLY:

(1) PSIRA conducts background checks on individual applicants prior to such a person being registered as an owner of a security company with PSIRA.

Section 23(2) (a) requires that every natural person performing executive or management function must be registered as a security service provider (security officer) in terms of section 20(2)(a). It is during this process of registration that the person who applies for security business registration has his fingerprints taken for criminal records verification.

(2)The applicant must meet the requirements for registration as prescribed in section 23 of the Private Security Industry Regulatory Act.

(3) The company Tactical Security Services is registered with PSIRA since 10 November 2008 registration number 1662783 and is also registered with CIPC (CIPRO) as a cc registration CK2008/203073/23.

(4)Yes background check was done on Gerhardus Adrian Snyman and he was individually registered by PSIRA on 20 October 2004 registration number 1108169.

He met the registration requirements as explained in an answer to question (1), supra.

a) At the time of the adjudication of the application for registration of Tactical Security Services on 20 October 2004, our criminal record verification on the part of Gerhardus Adrian Snyman returned negative results on both previous convictions and pending criminal investigation. Assuming that the criminal verification returned positive results, the position would have been, a rejection of application for registration

b) According to the recent media report it was alleged that Gerhardus Adrian Snyman conspired to commit a cash-in-transit robbery in 2007 after he had been registered and by then he was a suspect and not yet formally charged by SAPS to have a record of criminal investigation against him.

Based on the allegations in the media and routine procedure within the Authority, the finger prints of Gerhardus Adrian Snyman were uplifted from our record and sent to the criminal record centre for reclassification.

If the results indicate that there is pending investigation against him and such investigation is in respect of a scheduled offence as alleged, the Authority will invoke the provisions of section 26 of the Act and have his registration suspended after we have informed him of the contemplated steps. The process follows an administrative justice procedure of :

i) Formal notification of the security providers of the allegations and pending criminal investigation; and

ii) Adjudication of the merits followed by a decision and notification of the suspension of the registration as a security service provider.

QUESTION NO 1599

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 17 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17- 2011)

1599. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) Whether a certain person (name and details furnished) applied for a firearm license every year since 2007; if so,

(2) whether a firearm license was granted to the said person; if so, (a) why was this firearm license granted and (b) how can the decision to grant a firearm license to a person who is facing criminal charges be justified?

NW1801E

REPLY:

(1) No.

(2) No.

(a) A firearm licence was never granted, as no application for the issuing of a firearm licence was submitted.

(b) As an application for a firearm licence was not submitted, no such decision was taken.

QUESTION NO 1580

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 17 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17- 2011)

1580. Mr V B Ndlovu (IFP) to ask the Minister of Police:

How many officials of the SA Police Service (SAPS) have been (a)(i) criminally charged with and (ii) suspended from the SAPS for disciplinary offences and (b) dismissed from service as a result during the period 1 January 2010 and 31 December 2010?

NW1782E

REPLY:

The information provided in response to the question is for the period 1 April 2010 - 31 March 2011, since data is captured in terms of financial years.

(a) (i) 2154 officials of the SA Police Service have been criminally charged.

(ii) 869 officials were suspended from the SA Police Service for disciplinary offences.

(b) 520 members were dismissed from the Service during the reporting period. Please note that some disciplinary matters are still pending and therefore the results are not available yet available and this is why there is a difference between the figures in (a) and those in (b)

QUESTION NO 1579

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 17 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 17- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1579. Mr V B Ndlovu (IFP) to ask the Minister of Police:

(a) What are the requirements that a member of the SA Police Service (SAPS) must meet in order to be appointed to the rank of general, (b) how many SAPS members currently hold the rank of general, (c) how many SAPS members have met the specified requirements before being promoted to the rank of general and (d) why were the remaining members promoted to this rank without meeting the necessary requirements?

NW1781E

REPLY:

(a) The requirements for appointment to the ranks of Major General and Lieutenant General, with the exception of the appointment of the National Commissioner (General) who is appointed by the President, are stipulated in the advertisement and may differ from post to post. The appointments are further regulated by the SAPS National Instruction 4/2010 which inter alia provides for internal and or external advertising of posts. If a post is advertised internally, an applicant must inter alia have a minimum of three (3) years uninterrupted service in the Service and the Public Service, on the salary level which immediately precedes the salary level on which the post has been advertised and be in possession of an applicable NQF 6 or equivalent qualification stipulated in the advertisement. If a post is advertised externally, an applicant must inter alia have a minimum period of three (3) years appropriate managerial experience and be in possession of an applicable NQF 6 or equivalent qualification stipulated in the advertisement. It has to be mentioned that in the past the National Instruction was not specific in respect of requirements for appointment. The National Commissioner may, however, deviate from the advertisement and selection process and may promote an employee in terms of the SAPS Employment Regulations 2008, Regulation 45 (8) and (9), if he is satisfied that the employee qualifies in all respects for the post.

(b) The following number of SAPS members are holding the ranks indicated hereunder:

General = 1

Lieutenant General = 27

Major General = 124

Total = 152

(c) As mentioned above, the requirements for appointment to the ranks of Major General and Lieutenant General are stipulated in the advertisement and may differ from post to post. Some Generals were also promoted to their current ranks several years ago and at the time when the National Instruction was not specific in respect of requirements for appointment. Members promoted to the ranks of Major General and Lieutenant General met the specific requirements applicable at the time when they were promoted. Some members are for example not in possession of a NQF 6 qualification, however, the whole profile of a member and a combination of aspects like qualifications, prior learning, relevant experience or capacity to acquire within a reasonable time the ability to do the job were taken into account to determine the suitability of a member, which are also provided for in Section 20(3) of the Employment Equity Act, 1998 (Act No 55, 1998).

(d) Members were promoted to the ranks of Major General and Lieutenant General over a period of time and in terms of the requirements applicable at that stage. All members promoted were found suitable for the posts they were appointed to.

QUESTION NO 1562

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 10 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 15- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1562. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) How many (a) firearms have been destroyed by the SA Police Service (SAPS) in each year since the implementation of the Firearms Control Act, Act 60 of 2000, (b) of these firearms (i) were handed in to the SAPS for disposal by lawful owners and (ii) were illegal firearms;

(2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

NW1729E

REPLY:

(1)(a) From 1 April 2004 to 31 March 2011, 753 118 firearms have been destroyed by the South African Police Service since the implementation of the Firearms Control Act, Act 60 of 2000.

(b)(i) of these firearms, 182 574 were handed in to the SAPS for disposal by lawful owners; and

(b)(ii) 174 205 were illegal firearms.

(2) I have already made a number of statements on this issue

QUESTION NO 1561

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 10 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 15- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1561. Mr P J Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Police:

(1) How many members of the SA Police Service died (a) in (i) 2008, (ii) 2009 and (iii) 2010 and (b) during the period 1 January 2011 up to the latest specified date for which information is available (aa) in the line of duty, (bb) in family violence, (cc) on account of suicide and (dd) because of unnatural causes;

(2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

NW1728E

REPLY:

( SEQ CHAPTER \h \r 11) (a) The number of members of the SAPS who died during:

(i) 1 April 2008 until 31 March 2009 : 1 451 of which 105 were murdered

(ii) 1 April 2009 until 31 March 2010 : 1 422 of which 101 were murdered

(iii) 1 April 2010 until 31 March 2011 : 1 468 of which 93 were murdered

(b) The number of members of the SAPS who died during

1 January until 31 May 2011:

(aa) In the line of duty: 13

(bb) Please note that we do not have such a category in the SAPS

(cc) as a result of suicide: 15

(dd) as a result of unnatural causes: 57

(2) I have and will continue to make statements on this issue

QUESTION NO 1560

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 10 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 15- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1560. Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

Whether National Police Commissioner Bheki Cele uses the SA Police Service (SAPS) jet on (a) national and (b) international trips; if so, (i) how many trips has he undertaken in the SAPS jet, (ii) what was the destination in each case, (iii) on what date was each trip undertaken and (iv) what was the total cost of each trip?

NW1727E

REPLY:

(a) Yes

(b) Yes

(i)	SEQ CHAPTER \h \r 1(ii)	(iii)	(iv)
47	DURBAN	2009-08-02	R19 000-00
	CAPE TOWN/ DURBAN	2009-08-04 TO 07	R47 000-00
	POLOKWANE / NELSPRUIT	2009-08-12	R15 000-00
	BLOEMFONTEIN/ BISHO/ EAST LONDON	2009-08-13 TO 14	R 36 000-00
	POTCHEFSTROOM/ KIMBERLEY	2009-08-17	R 20 000-00
	ULUNDI	2009-09-18	R 26 000-00
	CAPE TOWN AND WALVIS BAY	2009-09-21 TO 23	R73 000-00
	CAPE TOWN	2009-10-07	R39 000-00
	CAPE TOWN	2009-10-19 TO 20	R37 000-00
	CAPE TOWN / DURBAN	2009-11-27	R45 000-00
	MALAWI	2009-12-06	R40 000-00
	ANGOLA / DURBAN	2009-12-15	R87 000-00
	GEORGE	2009-12-17	R31 000-00
	NELSPRUIT	2009-12-18	R11 000-00
	PORT ELIZABETH	2009-12-22	R33 000-00
	HARARE	2010-01-06 TO 11	R78 000-00
	BLOEMFONTEIN/ DURBAN	2010-01-29	R15 000-00
	CAPE TOWN	2010-03-09	R39 000-00
	MTHATHA	2010-05-20 TO 21	R37 800-00
	PORT ELIZABETH	2010-06-04	R39 150-00
	PORT ELIZABETH	2010-06-08	R40 500-00
	CAPE TOWN	2010-06-17	R52 650-00
	PORT ELIZABETH	2010-06-23	R39 150-00
	BLOEMFONTEIN	2010-06-27	R20 250-00
	CAPE TOWN	2010-07-03	R49 950-00
	DURBAN	2010-07-07	R25 650-00
	CAPE TOWN	2010-07-12	R49 950-00
	NELSPRUIT	2010-07-26	R16 200-00
	NELSPRUIT	2010-07-28	R16 200-00
	KIMBERLEY	2010-08-23	R20 250-00
	POLOKWANE	2010-09-15 TO 17	R12 150-00
	BLOEMFONTEIN	2010-09-21 TO 23	R22 950-00
	BISHO	2010-11-16 TO 17	R31 050-00
	BLOEMFONTEIN	2010-11-09	R20 250-00
	POLOKWANE	2010-11-15	R18 900-00
	PORT ELIZABETH / DURBAN	2010-11-22	R45 900-00
	POTCHEFSTROOM	2010-12-01	R13 500-00
	POLOKWANE	2010-12-08	R22 950-00
	THOHOYANDOU	2010-12-31	R18 900-00
	BLOEMFONTEIN	2011-01-29	R20 250-00
	BISHO	2011-02-03	R32 400-00
	ULUNDI	2011-02-04	R22 950-00
	KIMBERLEY	2011-02-17	R22 950-00
	MARGATE	2011-02-23 TO 25	R28 350-00
	PIETERMARITZBURG	2011-05-11	R21 600-00
	PILANSBERG / PIETERMARITZBURG	2011-05-27	R27 000-00
	NELSPRUIT	2011-05-30	R17 550-00
	GRAND TOTAL		R1 498 300 00

QUESTION NO 1548

DATE OF PUBLICATION IN INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER: 10 JUNE 2011

(INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 15- 2011)

Date reply submitted: 25 July 2011

1548. Mrs J F Terblanche (DA) to ask the Minister of Police:

(a) What is the status of the investigation into CAS 75/06/2011 reported at the Edenvale police station and (b) who is the investigating officer?

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REPLY:

(a) The suspect was arrested on 13 June 2011 and appeared before the court on 14 June 2011. The case has been postponed until 29 June 2011.

(b) The investigating officer is W/O De Beer.

2011-12-28

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