Hansard: NCOP: Unrevised Hansard

House: National Council of Provinces

Date of Meeting: 11 Oct 2016

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UNREVISED HANSARD


TUESDAY, 11 OCTOBER 2016
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PROCEEDINGS OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES

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The Council met at 14:02.

The House Chairperson: Committees, Oversight, Co-operative
Governance and Intergovernmental took the Chair and requested
members to observe a moment of silence for prayers or meditation.

ANNOUNCEMENTS, TABLINGS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS – see col 000.

NOTICES OF MOTION

Ms B A ENGELBRECHT: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that on
the next sitting day of the House I shall move on behalf of the DA:

That the House –

(1)

notes the latest losses in employment figures as released by
Statistics SA, employment in the formal sector fell by 0,7%
which equates to 67 000 jobs in the second quarter compared
with previous quarter of 2016;

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further debates, the implementation of economic policies
proposed by the DA that will stimulate the local economy to
provide jobs for the thousands of unemployed people that are
slowly losing hope. I so move.

Mr M KHAWULA: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that on the
next sitting day of the House I shall move on behalf of the IFP:

That the House -

(1)

notes that Hon Pravin Gordhan left the SA Revenue Service in
2009 when he became the Minister of Finance, and that it has
been seven years since the Minister Gordhan‘s departure in
that position;

(2)

recognises the announcement today 11th October 2016 by the
head of the NPA, voicing an intention to charge Minister
Gordhan, and the statements by the state President in the
past denying that state institutions in the country are at
war with each other

(3)

detects a sharp contrast to statements by the Deputy
President who was warning about the danger of state
institutions that are at war with each other;

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regrets that this is very odd that when Minister Gordhan
speaks out against wrong doings in the SAA, against financing
nuclear power, he suddenly becomes a target of State Security
forces and this happens just in 15 days before the Minister
Gordhan delivers his Medium Term Budget 2016-17. I so move.

Mr E MAKUE: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that on the next
sitting day of the House I shall move on behalf of the ANC:

That the House –

(1)

debates the DA in Gauteng has threatened to withdraw from
Salga after having lost election in provincial conference.

(2)

notes that the DA delegates walked out of the conference
after they were outvoted by the ANC majority that elected Mr
Parks Tau as the Provincial Chairperson.

(3)

realises that the move is aimed at creating instability as
this will automatically be taking workers out of the
bargaining council which would have dire consequences to the
workers. I so move.

Mr J J LONDT: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that on the
next sitting day of the House I shall move on behalf of the DA:

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That the House debates the conduct of army recruits at the
various basis across the country and the readiness to serve our
country and the continent when needed. I so move.

Mr O S TERBLANCHE: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that on
the next sitting day of the House I shall move on behalf of the DA:

That this council debates the current level of business
confidence in the economy, the impact on investments and job
creation, the removal of red tape and the facilitation of
accelerated investments. I so move.

Mr C HATTINGH: House Chairperson, I hereby give notice that on the
next sitting day of the House I shall move on behalf of the DA:

That the House notes the repatriation of 23 boys between the ages
of 6 and 16 to Ghana, the recent discovery of a truckload of more
than 50 Malawian children in Rustenburg, the arrest of Thai women
at brothels, the arrest of 167 Malawians in North West, Free
State and Limpopo in July and in first week of August; that this
house debates human trafficking in South Africa and its resultant
slavery. Thank you.

PASSING AWAY OF FEZEKA KHUZWAYO KNOWN AS KHWEZI

(Draft Resolution)

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Ms T J MOKWELE: House Chair, I move without notice:

That the Council -

(1)

notes the sad passing away of Fezeka Khuzwayo known in South
Africa as Khwezi;

(2)

also notes that Khwezi passed away after a long illness,
according to the statement from her family;

(3)

acknowledges that Khwezi passed away without ever seeing
justice, she was demonised, hurt, her mother‘s house burnt
down and forced into exile by the supporters of Mr Zuma,
after Khwezi had accused Mr Zuma of raping her;

(4)

also acknowledges that Khwezi‘s father, Judson Khuzwayo,
sacrificed his life fighting for freedom in his country and
was jailed in Robben Island where he shared a cell with Mr
Zuma;

(5)

notes that it was this relationship between Mr Zuma and Mr
Khuzwayo that led Khwezi to see in Zuma a father figure.

(6)

also notes that many women in this country get subjected to
what Khwezi was subjected to; they are molested often with
impunity by men who have access to power; and

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sends our condolences to the family of Khwezi wishing them
strength in this difficult time and praying that khwezi‘s
soul rest in peace.

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Is there any objection to the
motion?

Hon MEMBERS: Yes!

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): In light of the objection,
the motion without notice may not be proceeded with. The motion
without notice will now become a notice of a motion.

INDEPENDENT POWER PRODUCERS UNVEILED

(Draft resolution)

Mr S G MTHIMUNYE: Hon House Chair, I move without notice:

That the Council –

(1)

notes that the Department of Energy yesterday unveiled coal
independent power producers Khanyisa and Thabametsi as
preferred bidders to build two coal-fired power stations;

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also notes that the plants will add 863,3 megawatts of
electricity to the country‘s power grid in the next five
years;

(3)

further notes that the two projects will create 6613 jobs
during the construction phase and 13 524 jobs during the
operational phase; and

(4)

congratulates the department in their endeavour to make sure
that we no longer have problems with availability of
electricity and assisting in the economic development of our
country.

Motion is agreed to in terms of section 65 of the Constitution.

VIOLENT PROTESTS ESCALATE IN HIGHER INSTITUTIONS OF LEARNING
THREATENING HUMAN LIFE

(Draft Resolution)

Ms L C DLAMINI: Hon House Chair, I move without notice:

That the Council -

(1)

notes with concern the escalation of violent protests in most
higher institutions of education in South Africa;

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also notes that property has been destroyed and human life
continues to be threatened;

(3)

appreciates the leadership of the Ministry of Higher
Education and the university management in pursuing dialogue
to bring amicable solutions to this impasse;

(4)

believes that education and higher education in particular is
a public investment and not a monopoly of any stratum of the
society; and

(5)

calls on all sectors of society, organised business and
labour, religious fraternity and different formations of
civil society to intervene in this higher education crisis by
mapping out a common, immediate, medium and long-term
intervention to this crisis.

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Is there any objection to the
motion?

Hon MEMBERS: Yes!

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): In light of the objection,
the motion without notice may not be proceeded with. The motion
without notice will now become a notice of a motion.

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HLAUDI MOTSOENENG’S APPOINTMENT UNLAWFUL AND IRRATIONAL

(Draft Resolution)

Mr J W W JULIUS: House Chair, I move without notice:

That the Council -

(1)

notes and welcomes the Supreme Court of Appeal judgement
which held that the appointment of the former South African
Broadcasting Corporation, SABC, Chief Operating Officer,
Hlaudi Motsoeneng, is unlawful and irrational;

(2)

also notes that this case was taken to court by the DA based
on the Public Protector, Thuli Madonsela‘s findings against
him in 2014;

(3)

calls on the Minister of Communications, Faith Muthambi, to
act against the defiant SABC board and stop the vexatious
litigation attempts to protect Hlaudi Motsoeneng; and

(4)

also calls on the remaining SABC board members resign with
immediate effect to pave the way to stabilising the SABC.

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Is there any objection to the
motion?

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Hon MEMBERS: Yes!

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): In light of the objection,
the motion without notice may not be proceeded with. The motion
without notice will now become a notice of a motion.

UNEXPECTED DEATH OF COUNCILLORS IN GEORGE MUNICIPALITY

(Draft Resolution)

Mr O S TERBLANCHE: House Chair, I move without notice:

That the Council -

(1)

notes the tragic and unexpected death of councillors Gladwin
Xesi and Martin Johannes du Preez, from wards 11 and 25 in
the George Municipality respectively; and

(2)

conveys its condolences to the respective families.

Motion agreed to in accordance with section 65 of the Constitution.

KWAZULU-NATAL LEARNER S’NENHLANHLA DLAMINI WINS TOP PRIZE AT ESKOM
EXPO

(Draft Resolution)

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Mr J M MTHETHWA: House Chairperson, I move without notice:

That the Council -

(1)

notes and welcome with delight that KwaZulu-Natal school
pupil S‘nenhlanhla Dlamini has won the 2016 Eskom Expo for
Young Scientists International Science Fair and bagged a
scholarship to study in Germany with an innovative energy
saving device;

(2)

also notes that this Ongoye Secondary School pupil was
awarded her prize at an awards ceremony in Boksburg on Friday
night after she won the three day science fair, where girls
outnumbered boys at 5 393 versus 3 564;

(3)

further notes that the fields of science, maths and
technology are key to our development as a country;

(4)

applauds such initiatives by Eskom in collaboration with
other stake holders; and

(5)

congratulates S‘nenhlanhla, wishing her well in her future.

Motion agreed to in accordance with section 65 of the Constitution.

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KARABO NKOLI JOINS THE COUNTRY’S YOUNGEST AUTHORS WITH HIS BOOK WHISPERS OF LIFE

(Draft Resolution)

Ms L L ZWANE: House Chairperson, I move without notice:

That the Council -

(1)

notes in appreciation that 14 years old Grade 8, Karabo
Nkoli, from Sasolburg has already surpassed his peers by
becoming one of the country‘s youngest authors;

(2)

also notes that his nonfiction book titled Whispers of Life
is aimed at teenagers and seeks to motivate and inspire the
youth of the country to become leaders and succeed at their
life goals;

(3)

further notes that born in Sasolburg in the Free State, Nkoli
holds former President Nelson Mandela in high regard as the
late ANC stalwart has had an immensely positive influence on
him and his life; and

(4)

applauds Karabo on the courage that he has for writing and
further encourage him to do more.

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Motion agreed to in terms of section 65 of the Constitution.

ADVOCATE MADONSELA’S PURSUIT AND ACHIEVEMENT OF JUSTICE - A BEACON
OF HOPE TO THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH AFRICA

(Draft Resolution)

Ms R TSEKE: House Chairperson, I move without notice:

That the Council -

(1)

acknowledges the immense role that Adv Thuli Madonsela has
played in the office of the Public Protector and that this
has been a powerful instrument for executive accountability;

(2)

also acknowledges that Adv Madonsela had no fear of pursuing
and exposing the rot of the ANC administration and the extent
of the state capture that has taken place; and

(3)

finally acknowledge that Adv Madonsela‘s pursuit and
achievement of justice is a beacon of hope to the people of
our country.

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Is there any objection to the
motion?

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Hon MEMBERS: Yes!

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): In light of the objection,
the motion without notice may not be proceeded with. The motion
without notice will now become a notice of motion.

EMERITUS DESMOND TUTU CELEBRATED HIS 85TH BIRTHDAY ON 07 OCTOBER
2016
(Draft Resolution)

Mr G MICHALAKIS: House chairperson, I move without notice:

That the Council -

(1)

notes that Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu celebrated his
85th birthday on 07 October this year;

(2)

thanks the Archbishop for his continued contribution to our
democracy, nation building and his role as the conscience of
our nation; and

(3)

wishes the Archbishop peace, health and joy in his 85th
birthday.

Motion agreed to in accordance with section 65 of the Constitution.

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WATER SUPPLY CHALLENGES AT MALUTI-A-PHOFUNG

(Draft Resolution)

Mr M M CHABANGU: Chairperson, on behalf of the EFF, I move without
notice:

That the Council -

(1)

notes that the people of Maluti-A-Phofung have not had water
for the past 11 months;

(2)

further notes that water that was brought to them by jojos
which benefit the ANC people only;

(3)

also notes that the toilets in Maluti-A-Phofung are stinking
despite the fact the area has the biggest dam in SA, the
Sterkfontein Dam, which persistently supplies Gauteng
province with water whenever it has;

(4)

further also notes that the area has two flowing rivers, the
Namahali and Kgoptjane, that can serve as a solution to the
problem if the municipality thinks wisely; and lastly,

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calls upon the municipality to deal with the problem that has
affected the poor people directly because Maluti-A-Phofung
was earmarked as a node by the former President.

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Is there any objection to the
motion? [Interjections.] In light of the objection, the motion may
not be proceeded with. The motion without notice will now become
notice of a motion.

HURRICANE MATTHEW’S DESTRUCTIVE EFFECT ON THE HAITIAN PEOPLE

(Draft Resolution)

Mr J P PARKIES: Chair, I hereby move without notice:

That the Council -

(1)

notes with profound sadness that a powerful and destructive
hurricane slammed into Haiti last week, leaving around 1 000
dead and 1,4 million people in need of humanitarian
assistance;

(2)

further notes that the Haitian authorities had to start
burying the dead in mass graves in different parts of the
country because the bodies were starting to decompose;

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also notes that there was great concern about cholera
spreading, and that authorities were focused on getting
water, food and medication to the thousands of people living
in shelters; and

(4)

conveys its heartfelt condolences and sympathy to the
government and people of the Republic of Haiti on the
occasion of this tragedy.

Motion agreed to in accordance with section 65 of the Constitution.

MANGAUNG CULTURAL FESTIVAL

(Draft Resolution)

Ms M L MOSHODI: Hon Chair, I rise to move without notice:

That this House -

(1)

notes the success of the annual Mangaung Cultural Festival,
popularly called Macufe, which is hosted by the provincial
government of the Free State in partnership with the private
sector;

(2)

further notes that this festival runs for the whole week,
providing a diverse range of cultural products and

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entertainment and attracts people from across South Africa
and Lesotho;

(3)

believes that the development of our culture is critical for
nation-building and social cohesion and acts as a catalyst
for cultural tourism; and

(4)

applauds the provincial government of the Free State and the
private sponsors of the festival for coming up with this
innovative programme.

Motion agreed to in accordance with section 65 of the Constitution.

Ms Z V NCITHA: Chair, on behalf of the ANC I hereby move without
notice:

That this Council -

(1)

notes that the President has appointed Adv Busisiwe Joyce
Mkhwebane as the new Public Protector for a period of seven
years with effect from 15 October 2016;

(2)

also notes that Adv Mkhwebane was selected from over 60
candidates nominated by South Africans;

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further notes that her candidacy was endorsed by an
overwhelming majority with only the DA opposing her and
accusing her of being a spy;

(4)

takes this opportunity to congratulate Adv Mkhwebane on her
new responsibility and hope that she will serve the country
with distinction; and

(5)

thanks the outgoing Public Protector, Adv Thuli Madonsela for
serving the people of South Africa with pride and dignity
over the past seven years and wishes her well in her future
endeavours.

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Is there any objection to the
motion? [Interjections.] In light of the objection, the motion may
not be proceeded with. The motion without notice will now become
notice of a motion.

MOTION OF CONDOLENCE

(The late Bonisile Nesi)

Ms T WANA: Chairperson, on behalf of the ANC, I move without notice:

That the Council –

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notes with a deep and profound sense of sadness the passing
on of hon Bonisile Nesi, also affectionately known as
Nobhowu, after a short period of illness;

(2)

further notes that hon Nesi joined the Council in 2009 and
served in it until 2014, representing the people and
government of the Eastern Cape, after presiding over the
Eastern Cape legislature in which he also served as an MPL;

(3)

acknowledges his contribution to the NCOP as a member of the
Select Committees of Co-operative Governance and Trditional
Affairs, Security, Constitutional Development, and Petitions;

(4)

also acknowledges his membership from a young age in Umkontho
Wesizwe, through the Congress of South African Students,
Cosas, the South African Students Congress, Sasco, the ANC
Youth League and the ANC;

(5)

further acknowledges his participation in the struggle for
the liberation of this country from apartheid to advance a
better life for his people which saw him jailed for a period
of two-and-a-half years;

(6)

further notes that, at the time of his passing, hon Nesi was
an ANC regional executive committee member of the Sarah

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Baartman Region and a member of Parliament in the NA serving
on the Portfolio Committees of Home Affairs and Defence;

(7)

conveys its heartfelt condolences to his family, his wife,
Thobeka, and children for the irreplaceable loss of their
loved one, and prays that God may bless them and give them
strength to take on the things that Nobhowu represented and
stood for, which are South Africa and its people.

Motion agreed to in accordance with section 65 of the Constitution.

“TOUGHEST FIREFIGHTER ALIVE” COMPETITION SUCCESSFULLY HELD IN GEORGE

(Draft Resolution)

Mr J J LONDT: Chair, on behalf of the DA, I move without notice:

That this House -

(1)

notes that the fifth annual ―Toughest Firefighter Alive‖
competition was recently successfully held in George;

(2)

also notes that this House should thank the thousands of men
and women who put their lives at risk on a daily basis to
protect our citizens‘ lives, property and the environment;

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congratulates the overall winner of the men‘s category, Emile
Conrad from the Eden District municipality; and

(4)

further congratulates the winner of the female category,
Precious Mpungose from Ethekwini and the winners of the relay
competition — the Eden District Municipality team consisting
of Emile Conrad, Lusiano James, Bronwill Abrahams and Hein
Leslie.

Motion agreed to in accordance with section 65 of the Constitution.

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Hon members let me take this
opportunity to welcome the special delegates, MECs from different
provinces, and Deputy Ministers in our midst.

THE DETERIORATING STATE OF BASIC EDUCATION AND VIOLATION OF THE
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BASIC EDUCATION OF LEARNERS IN THE EASTERN
CAPE, KWAZULU-NATAL AND LIMPOPO PROVINCES, IN THE LIGHT OF THE
DECLINE IN THE 2015 MATRIC END YEAR RESULTS

Ms T G MPAMBO-SIBHUKWANA: Hon House Chairperson, the late South
African icon, Nelson Mandela, famously said, ―Education is the most
powerful weapon which you can use to change the world. It can free
you from bondage and the bondage of the mind.‖ For years, political
figures and the likes of Mandela fought for democracy and equality
in our country. It has now been nearly 21 years that we have

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experienced a new and democratic South Africa. House Chair, may I
have your protection?

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON: (Mr A J Nyambi): Hon members, let‘s avoid
anything that will compromise the decorum of the House. Hon MpamboSibhukwana, you are protected. You can continue.

Ms T G MPAMBO-SIBHUKWANA: It is a well-known fact that education
plays a vital role in shaping tomorrow‘s leaders. Not only can we
utilize the educational skills to become an improved nation by
acquiring the skills necessary to be productive members of a
civilized society, but we can also use education to increase the
knowledge to actively achieve and meet challenges that we face daily
that can produce changes which are productive for attaining business
innovations, political innovations and economic objectives.

Our country has a long and complicated history of education where
during apartheid; South Africa‘s educational system was
significantly unjust. Racist educational policies were implemented
to limit the educational potential of black South Africans as well
as keeping them within the boundaries of the working class whilst
white South Africans had the benefit of learning under an education
system that promoted critical thinking and assisted them in
advancing their careers. Now, during the postapartheid era, we have
the Constitution that protects us — the founding document of our

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democracy that dictates and protects our rights as per the bill of
rights to education.

According to the Bill of Rights in our Constitution, all South
Africans have the right to basic education, including adult basic
education and training, Abet, and access to further education. This,
therefore, means that the state has an obligation, through
reasonable measures, to progressively make this education available
and accessible to all.

South Africa has one of the highest rates of public investment in
education in the world - about 70% of the gross domestic product,
GDP, and 20% of the total state expenditure. The government spends
more on education than on any other sector. So, why do we then find
that there are gross inequalities that are still prevalent in our
society today?

Earlier this year, it was reported that at Dalibhunga Junior
Secondary School in the Eastern Cape had broken ceilings as well as
no access to piped water. Another high school within the same
province also had poor infrastructure of broken windows and no
ceilings in classrooms. This is not a good conducive environment for
learners. The conditions in these schools were so bad that a
significant portion of the academic year was spent with learners
attending classes under trees. This shouldn‘t be seen after years of
democracy and still call it equality.

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Just last month, a video of a teacher beating a high school leaner
in KwaZulu-Natal went viral. Poor governance and poor financial
management are not new issues and are definitely not exclusive to
these provinces. However, we have to admit that there is a trend in
the quality of education in provinces that are mostly black, rural
and poor.

These are the vulnerable members of our society. These children also
have the potential to become positive contributors to our society
and economy. We have to ensure that their rights are protected and
not marginalized and overshadowed by the rights of students in more
urban areas.

When delving deeper into this problem, it was found that the main
cause of the issue was the infrastructure budget cut of 12% after
the department underspent. We, as the DA, hold the belief that a
conducive learning environment is essential for students; and
qualified teachers as well as other material resources are needed
especially in order for students to truly flourish in their academic
years.

Very often, people talk about South Africa's education system ―in
crisis". As mentioned before, I wish to state that we know that the
issue is not the money. We, as the DA, believe that once the key
issues pertaining to education are properly highlighted, plans for

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improving conditions in schools and in the lives of students would
be easier to construct.

We have to admit that there are discrepancies that exist between the
learning and living conditions of the ―average‖ white student and
the ―average‖ black student, which includes black, coloured and
indian students.

Black, Coloured and Indian students are not only vulnerable to
dropping out of school but are vulnerable to taking the decision not
to further their education by going to tertiary institutions. The
reason that this is the case is that students from these race groups
usually come from disadvantaged backgrounds where they have limited
economic resources and have parents with lower levels of education.

The school location and the distance between the school and the
home, act as a barrier to children attaining their desired
education. The learner to educator ratio is a further indicator that
it is important to consider as educators play a fundamental role in
determining educational outcomes and it helps us access the quality
of schooling that is offered to students.

Students who learn in overcrowded classes are susceptible to not
attending school regularly or completely dropping out as they are
not given the personal attention which could help them succeed in
class.

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We believe that more schools are needed in order to accommodate the
educational needs of our children. We also believe that better
quality teaching is necessary in all learning environments.

Finally, I wish to say that, when we visited Limpopo, Vhudzani
Secondary School, the first school we visited, we were welcome by
monkeys because there is no fence around the school. That also
compromises the safety of the learners in that school. Ironically,
when we were in one of the schools in KwaZulu-Natal, led by
principal Mchunu, the infrastructure of that school built in the
last 20 years has gone down and dilapidated, and that is a cause of
concern for conducive learning. I thank you.

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON: (Mr A J Nyambi): Let me remind those that
will be coming to the podium for the first time. We do have a watch
in the screen. So, make it simple for me.

Ms L L ZWANE: Chairperson, hon MEC‘s from provinces, including
KwaZulu-Natal, KZN, hon Members of the House and guests, broken
toilets, shoddy infrastructure, widespread use of corporal
punishment and lack of student safety were some of the issues
highlighted in the social audit of Western Cape schools released by
Equal Education, EE. The report was drawn from 244 schools and
Nishal Robb goes on to say, ―They have a certain strategy for
dealing with people who ask questions. They have got a way of
dealing with protesters and actually shutting people out when they

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bring problems pertaining to education. And he goes on to say, ―I
think we have got a big fight ahead of us. Our last meeting with the
MEC actually ended in us walking out, because her office was
absolutely condescending and arrogant.‖

Therefore hon Mpambo-Sibhukwana, I want to say to you, we reject
your motion as being very disingenuous. You cannot use outliers to
formulate generalisations. The cases that you are quoting are
isolated - they are outliers - and therefore I would recommend that
you go to school ... [Applause.] and study quantitative research
methodology. That is going to teach you that you cannot use
outliers, you must use all the variables before you come to a
conclusion. [Applause.]

We were with you at eMqamathi and Ndabesuthe were we found that
there was education taking place, not withstanding the challenges
that are there. We agreed that there are challenges. There were
faction fights in some of the schools in KwaZulu-Natal in uMzinyathi
District that caused education not to go as smoothly. There is a
shortage of science teachers and maths educators but the department
has actually given bursaries through Fundza Lushaka to ensure that
we increase the number of maths and science teachers.

There was a problem of shortage of textbooks, but the schools have
been made to submit textbooks recovery plans. The same applied to
Eastern Cape. There were challenges there. There were schools that

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were in a state of disrepair but this very government, led by the
ANC ... [Time expired.] ... Okay, thank you. [Applause.]

Dr Y C VAWDA: Allow me to first and foremost acknowledge the
presence of our supreme forces, irrespective of whatever our
perceptions might be. I greet all of you with As-Salaam-Alaikum.
[Peace be unto you]

AN HON MEMBER: Four minutes is gone.

Dr Y C VAWDA: The EFF has always been clear about the problems
facing basic education in South Africa. We have for a very long time
criticized the fixation with the just Senior Certificate pass rates,
and focus more broadly on the education system in its entirety.
Matric results do not account for the large number of pupils that
drop out of school between Grade 1 and matric. Of 100 pupils that
start school, only 50 will make it to Grade 12, 40 will pass and
only 12 will qualify for university. This is clear evidence of the
nongovernance on the part of the ANC after 22 years into the new
South Africa.

Teaching and learning in the Eastern Cape have all but collapsed.
Nearly 2 000 schools will lie dormant on the department‘s school
infrastructure priority list. Hundreds of thousands of learners
continue to learn in mud structures, overcrowded classrooms, schools
without safe toilets, electricity or water, to name a few of the

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department‘s egregious violations of the norms and standards for
school infrastructure, 22 years after ANC‘s nongovernance.

Some of the key factors identified were long identified by the EFF,
and these are issues such as the inability to fill funded critical
vacant posts in schools, the phenomenon of small schools that are
difficult to resource, the continued neglect of Grades 7, 8 and 9
with huge implications for the FET phase and matriculation results.
These are issues we have been raising forever here, and the ANC is
content with hearing the same problems over and over again, without
solving them.

Despite these challenges, we are alarmed that the Eastern Cape
Provincial Education Department had underspent R530 million of its
education infrastructure grant, EIG, in the 2015-16 financial year,
which resulted in the National Treasury reallocating the money to
other provinces. This has been ongoing in the Eastern Cape for far
too long. If these engagements do not result in tangible outcomes to
improve failures such as the Eastern Cape, then we are spiralling
downwards. This is the reason the Eastern Cape has been the worst
performing province for many years. But no action has ever been
taken against anyone, no one has ever been held accountable for the
sorry state of affairs in that province.

Mr C HATTINGH: Hon Chair, I think most of us were actually shocked
once again by hon Zwane‘s Western Cape obsession, which in fact

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today reminded me once again of the decadent emperor of Rome, Nero,
who allegedly played fiddle while Rome was burning. The country‘s
education system is burning, hon Zwane, and you come here and focus
on the Western Cape and Gauteng, the best performing provinces in
the country.

Recently, and I think hon Zwane may have slept late on the few days
of the oversight visit. The Select Committee on Social Services
witnessed shocking and appalling conditions to which learners are
being exposed on a daily basis namely, lack of water, lack of
sanitation facilities, open pit toilets without doors, shortage of
educators, vacant posts and educators acting in vacant positions for
some years in some cases. Similar situations were experienced during
an oversight visit to the Eastern Cape where it was found that in
some schools, the learners had to stand or sit on the floor in the
classrooms due to the absence of desks and chairs while in an
adjacent school furniture was stacked to the ceiling in locked
classrooms and not being used. This is the state of education where
there is a lack of management, lack of involvement.

In Vuwani, Limpopo, where more than 30 schools suffered from arson
due to demarcation protests and unrests, the culture of learning
appears to be unscathed with learners, through the hard work of
committed educators, still performing well even after lengthy
periods of school closures. But this, unfortunately, is not the
general trend in three of our provinces which are predominantly

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rural namely, Limpopo, KwaZulu-Natal and Eastern Cape. While
provinces like Gauteng, Western Cape and North West, also
predominantly rural, are making progress year after year. A strong
downward trend has now been firmly established in those three
provinces.

In this decline, as emphasised by the matric results, thousands of
learners are being deprived of proper education and because of that,
deprived of the opportunity to access tertiary education and
training with the subsequent devastating effects on their future.
The deterioration of the quality of education is most visible when
the matric results of these provinces are looked at.

Limpopo achieved 65,9% in 2015, down from 72,9% in 2014, down 7%;
Eastern Cape achieved 56,8% in 2015, down from 65,4% in 2014, a
decline of 8,6%; and KwaZulu-Natal achieved 60,7% in 2015, a decline
from 77,4% in 2013, a decline of 16,7% over the period. Now
obviously this is also affected by ... [Time expired.] ... before I
was interrupted, also jobs for cash are playing a role here. Thank
you, hon Chair.

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Hon Members, when I advise
all of you about time I am mindful that some of you have got three
minutes some have 10 minutes. So to those that has three, be extra
careful with the time there.

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Mr M MAKHUPULA: EASTERN CAPE MEC - EDUCATION: Hon Chairperson of the
session, hon members, it is indeed a great opportunity for me to
stand in front of you and share some of the developments, and
efforts that we are making in the province. The first thing to
acknowledge is that I take into account the context of the academic
year, 2015, that was punctuated by an 8,6% decline in the matric
results, from 65,4% to 56,8%. [Interjections.] Representing a
significant departure from the average historical learner
performance profile in the province, Umalusi, the national
certification authority in South Africa, equally observed that the
national adjustments to learner marks were quite unprecedented in
2015, not only for the Eastern Cape, but also for the country as a
whole.

Notwithstanding the drop, our learners and teachers made commendable
strides in the National Top Leaner Achiever Award and the National
Teaching Award. For the Quintile 1 category, nationally, the top
learner in the country came from the Eastern Cape, Dobe Mmangaliso
from Toli Senior Secondary School. Position 1 in special schools,
nationally, came from the Eastern Cape, Efata in Mthatha.
[Applause.] Position 2 in Physics, nationally, was Tsengwa
Kukhokuhle from St Johns College. [Applause.] I must also indicate
that Position 2 in combined Maths and Physics, nationally, came from
St Johns College, the same child Tsengwa Kukhokuhle. [Applause.]

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Whilst we acknowledge the challenges, you cannot wish away the fact
that there are also pockets of excellence in the province. On top of
that, with regard to the teaching awards, the excellence in
secondary schools, the excellence in special needs and inclusive
education and teaching, the excellence in Grade R teaching and the
Kader Asmal Position 2 Excellence Awards, throughout the country,
were all taken by the Eastern Cape. [Applause.]

Despite the challenges, let us also highlight that in terms of
access, it is important that hon members take note that of the
1,762 million children in the Eastern Cape from Grade R to Grade 12
that have access to public education, 1,599 children are attending
no-fee schools. They are paying nothing. [Interjections.] That is
the point that I think many of the members should take note of. At
times, you do not only measure the height of a person without
looking at the ground on which the person is standing. You must also
measure the depth of the position from which the person is standing.
[Interjections.] It is very important. You might say somebody is
short, but in actual fact, the person is standing in a hole.

On post-provisioning, ... [Interjections.]... we must say that for
2017, the staff establishment, based on a national post-provisioning
norm, was concluded ...

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HOUSE CHAIRPERSON: (Mr A J Nyambi): Order, members! Hon members, you
can do whatever, but you cannot drown the speaker at the podium.
[Interjections.]

Mr M MAKHUPULA: EASTERN CAPE MEC -EDUCATION: On 22 September, I
declared a post-basket for 2017, based on national post-provisioning
norms, ppn. I am happy to announce that this basket has taken into
account pressing demands of professionalising Grade R practitioners,
providing a good pool of therapists. For the first time in the
Eastern Cape, we will be measuring our children in terms of
screening, identification, advocacy and support.

Inefficiencies are one area that we are still dealing with. The
reality of the situation is that a province such as the Eastern
Cape, and I dare say Limpopo and KwaZulu-Natal, are provinces that
were largely deliberately not developed for centuries. The reality
of the matter is that economic challenges are actually a harsh
reality in the country. It is a reality that people are migrating
from the rural areas and the remote areas to urban metro areas. When
our people are moving from the Eastern Cape to Cape Town or to
Johannesburg, it has nothing to do with education or politics.
[Interjections.] It has to do with the economic conditions.

I must indicate that this thing of the Eastern Cape and the Western
Cape is new; it is just 26 years old. We used to have a Cape
Province with a capital town called Cape Town. This Cape Town was

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developed by our forefathers and foremothers. Their energy was spent
here. Today, it is what it is not because of the people of the
Western Cape, but because of the people of South Africa.

Therefore, when people talk about refugees and that children who
move from the Eastern Cape to the Western Cape are refugees, they
must not be short-sighted. People must take into account that the
Western Cape is what it is because of the contribution of South
Africa.

As I move towards our strategies for the matric countdown, in the
first place, we have registered 94 000 learners in the Eastern Cape,
...

Mr W F FABER: Chairperson, I would like to know if the MEC would
take a question on our oversight a few years ago in the Eastern
Cape.

HOUSE CHAIRPERSON: (Mr A J Nyambi): No, you can‘t do that. I must
first ascertain. You can‘t just ask the question. Hon MEC, are you
willing to take a question?

Mr M MAKHUPULA: EASTERN CAPE MEC -EDUCATION: Hon Chair, because of
time, I will not. [Interjections.] I must indicate that this year,
we have registered 94 000 full-time learners and 20 000 plus parttime candidates. Of the 924 schools that have matriculants in the

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Eastern Cape, we have targeted 560 of these schools where the
majority of the learners are from poor backgrounds. We are paying
attention to these schools. You can‘t make a difference, if you
don‘t spend time with the majority.

Let me speak on cleaning the system while dealing with
inefficiencies. The ghost issues are probably going to emerge. From
this year, in April in the Eastern Cape, there were more than
560 000 learners that had a challenge around IDs. Some did not have
IDs and others had invalid IDs. However, after, the vigorous
campaign that we had, I am glad to indicate that by September, only
72 000 of them do not have IDs. We have reduced the numbers
radically and drastically.

The interesting part is that, as the numbers of those who do not
have IDs are reduced, invalid IDs are emerging. We have a child who
is doing Grade 4 with an ID that starts with 1964. These are some of
the challenges that we are dealing with. So, we are beginning to
deal ...

Mr J W W JULIUS: Hon Chair, I wonder, at this time, is the MEC
prepared to take a question.

Mr M MAKHUPULA: EASTERN CAPE MEC -EDUCATION: Eastern Cape: MEC –
Education: If I have a minute at the end, I might listen to the
question, but let me cover the main points first. The reality of the

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matter is that Grade 12 is the exit class. If you want to pay
attention to correcting education, you have to attend to the primary
level as well. That is where we must spend our time. As the Eastern
Cape, we have dedicated our time to the Mathematical and language
competencies level, so that we are able to make a difference.

The last thing I want to speak about is expanding our services
platforms. From next year, we will be focussing. We have started to
prepare grounds for technical and vocational education services. We
do believe that at the moment, while we still have these challenges
at an academic level, especially at tertiary institutions, the
reality of the matter is that we have to capacitate our learners at
artisanship level so that they make a difference in the lives of our
children.

We have also expanded to maritime schools. We have started maritime
education with two schools at George Randall High School and
Ngwenyathi High School, which is a rural area. We have also
increased our telematics centres in the province.

I wish to tell hon member Mpambo-Sibhukwana that when you speak
about Dalagubha Junior Secondary School, please also ask Dalagubha
what they have done with the money that was allocated to them for
norms and standards, for school funding that deals with fencing and
broken windows. So, while I accept that the school might have broken
windows, we also have a right as public representatives to ask what

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the school has done with the money allocated to them, rather than
grandstanding here in Parliament. The right question must be asked
to the principal of the school.

Lastly, let me say that the uneven development in South Africa is a
historical challenge that we cannot run away from. South Africa,
with its historical development, has unfortunately identified some
areas as production zones, like the mineral areas, Gauteng, ...
[Time expired.]

Mr M DLUNGWANE: Chairperson, hon members, I am very humbled to be
standing in front of you being mandated by the ANC, representing the
people of KwaZulu-Natal province.

I must from the onset be clear and say that the Department of
Education in KwaZulu-Natal province has got more than 6 052 schools.
We are made out of more than 2,7 million learners with more than
90000 teachers and 107 000 employes. You can understand when we talk
about such a department that it is a massive one. So, you must
understand what you are talking about when you are talking about
KwaZulu-Natal province.

We have made significant strides in achieving Millennium Development
Goals, MDGs, while acknowledging the persistent challenges in
respect of achieving equity and redress. That is primarily because
we inherited a legacy of a collapsed system.

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Today, we talk of the investment of more than 2,4 billion in
infrastructure. It is because of this government that is focused and
aware that it needs to ensure that it invests on rural areas in
particular. We are not talking about the government that never cared
about our people but we are talking about the government that cares
about the people, even from the very deep rural areas.

When it comes to the National Schools Nutrition Programme, there are
more than 2,2 million learners in our province that are benefiting
from the programme, which constitutes about 88,9% of our learners in
the public schools. This is a very serious achievement by the ANCled government and we must stand up and acknowledge such an
achievement. You must listen to us so that you can learn.

The success of this intervention is noted in the improved attendance
record of learners coming largely from impoverish areas. We have
seen an improved performance and we are making progress. All of our
learners from quintile one to three do not pay school fees. Orphans,
foster children and children of parents receiving poverty linked
social grants are exempted from paying school fees. So this ANC-led
government is already implementing free education. We are very clear
on what we are doing.

Considerable progress has been made towards enriching universal
coverage by enrolling almost 98% of learners between the ages of 515, when we talk about the compulsory school age. The department

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boasts of the implementation of Literacy, Numeracy in the
improvement plan for the 2015-16 financial year, and we have
specially designed chats, flash cards and sentence trips were
provided to targeted schools in the effort to nurture reading.
Because we have realised that comprehension has been identified as
one of the element that impacts on our learner attainment on the
performance. That is why we are focusing on it. We have also
supplied learning and teaching support material, LTSMs, packs and
textbooks to a number of schools. As we speak right now, we are
almost complete in terms of the distribution.

Hon Chair, we must indicate that there is empirical evidence that
suggest that dropout rate at Grades 10-12 are much higher than the
lower grades in the education system. That the boy learners are more
likely to dropout than girl learners. [Interjections.]

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Hon MEC, hold on, please! Hon
Mokwele, why are you standing?

Ms T J MOKWELE: Hon Chair, on a point of order, I just want to know
whether we have a new Chairperson, because I am seeing the hon
Deputy Minister is sitting where the Chairperson of the Council is
sitting. Maybe you forgot to introduce to us the new Chairperson.

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The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Hon MOKWELE, there is nothing
wrong with that sitting arrangement. You are welcome hon Deputy
Minister. You may continue hon MEC.

Mr M DLUNGWANE: Chairperson, I must report that this month as we are
speaking we are introducing sanitary towel programme in our rural
schools to assist our girl learners. These are programmes that we
are going to continue implementing. We are very clear about it. We
have also intensified ... [Interjections.]

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Hon MEC, hold on!

Ms B A ENGELBRECHT: Hon Chairperson, I am standing on point 33 if
you can ask the MEC to elaborate on the free education.

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Hon Engelbrecht, you are
quite aware about the rules, can you take your seat?

Mr C HATTINGH: In terms of our rules which you have applied in the
past, the hon MEC must sit down if you take a point of order.

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): The point of order is
sustained. You are correct hon Hattingh. I will do that. [Laughter.]

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): You may continue hon MEC.

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Mr M DLUNGWANE: It means we are moving forward! We have also
intensified our efforts in increasing a number of girl learners
pursuing Mathematics, Science and Technology at FET level and
beyond. More female learners in our province have enrolled ...
[Interjections.]

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Hon MEC, hold on!

Mr J W W JULIUS: Firstly, I just wanted to check whether the MEC
knows the rules? Secondly, is he willing to take a question?

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Mr A J Nyambi): Hon MEC, are you ready to
take a question?

Mr M DLUNGWANE: Not now. I am moving forward. You see Chair, it can
be seen when people realise that you are talking facts. Our efforts
are bearing fruits because KwaZulu-Natal is now the country‘s
capital of Mathematics. We command the biggest percentage of
learners offering pure Mathematics in the country compared to those
who take Maths Literacy in the province. We have 59% pure Maths as
opposed to 41% Maths Literacy.

Hon Chair, we want to ensure that our education system creates a
supply of quality science and technology human resources for the
South African economy. It is public knowledge that our province did
not do very well in the past two years. We have introduced a number

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of initiatives aimed at improving our results for this year.
Noticeable, beyond the focus we have in Grade 12, we have made sure
that we create a solid foundation through the provision of material
equipment and apparatus other grades need for the better learning
and teaching experience.

Our focus is on improving the whole system, not only Grade 12.
However, in this year‘s intervention, we have ensured that we focus
on the school functionality monitoring. We have ensured that we
strengthen partnership with NonGovernmental Organisations, NGOs to
improve learner attainment, we have provided extra support to
progress learners. We have also been running workshop programme just
in Time for teachers in six subjects that were failed most in the
previous year.

We are monitoring curriculum coverage to ensure that all of our
learners when they go to write they have covered their curriculum.
We have quarterly common assessments as we had in March, June and
also in September. We have capacitated and we continue to capacitate
our school management teams. We are also ensuring the supply of
effective revision material so that our learners can be in a
position to succeed.

We are conducting supplementary tuition in winter and we also have
spring classes which are meant for revision. We are running Saturday
classes and also embarking on learner camps. We have invited our

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potential learners of 1 200 to our flyer bootcamp. We are indeed
trying our best. We have launched our final push programme remember we launched 100-days, 50-days, 30-days and on Thursday we
are going to be launching our 10-days programme.

We have partnered with newspapers in a supplementary programme and
we are also running slots on radio for revision purposes for all
eleven subjects that are done by the majority of our learners. We
have now introduced the Friday meetings where the MEC meets with the
majority of the senior managers to deal directly and primarily with
the exam related issues from September until the end of the writing
of examinations.

We have intensified our campaign aimed at restoring the moral fiber
of teachers to see learners as their children and desist from
unsavoury relationship with them. We want to assure you that we are
working so hard to ensure that the system works and produce the best
learners. Thank you so much.

Mr M I KGETJEPE: LIMPOPO MEC - EDUCATION: Chairperson, Members of
the National Council of Provinces, my colleagues from the provinces,
Ministers here present, the Deputy Minister, we are honoured to take
part in this debate.

I must indicate that we are doing all to ensure that we provide
basic education to the schools in our province. The components that

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we are fighting on to ensure that we maintain quality basic
education in Limpopo province involve, amongst others, provision of
Learner Teacher Support Materials, LTSM, habitable schooling
infrastructures, scholar transport, teacher provisioning and
development, school safety and governance.

A couple of years ago Limpopo was synonymous with the no delivery of
LTSM. Standing here today, we are very much encourage to the state
of affair that we are in that we are working very hard to protect
that we are doing everything in our power to ensure that every
learner has a textbook for every subject.

We have for instance, ensured that at the beginning of 2016 academic
year, all the LTSM were available so that teaching and learning
happens in the first day of school. Shortages do happen because of
learner migration; inaccurate information received such as the
submission lists from schools which do not comply with the directive
from the department. These are the things that we are progressively
addressing to ensure that we get 100%.

Our relationship with SA Post Office with regard to the management
of our warehouse and the delivery of LTSM ensures that we are able
to deliver these books on time. We are working very hard in this so
that come the beginning of the year 2017, we are also able to have
LTSM at schools during the first day of school.

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Of course, when you come to LTSM, supply the retrieval of LTSM is
very important and we are working very hard with the school managers
to ensure that we are able to achieve and have it.

We are not only concentrating on the mainstreams schools. We also
concentrate in supplying LTSM to special schools in our province. We
are committed to ensure that the curriculum delivery in these
schools also take place. In this regard, we have procured and
delivered appropriates specialised assistive devises and related
LTSM in 32 public special schools in our province to the tune of
R12,8 million, which entails laptops, data projectors, BrailleNote
Apex, Eye-Pal Solo, clicker interactive classroom bundle, Matrix
Maker, eBeam, tablets, simulation devices, printers, talking album,
interactive whiteboards and other related materials.

We have all these tools and learner support material, but it‘s
always important that we are focussing on because we can almost
supply this material, critical do it is to ensure that our educators
are able to use this equipment.

For that matter, we are working with the Education, Training and
Development Practices Sector Education and Training Authority, ETDPSeta, to train 134 educators on Braille, 218 on Sign Language, 100
educators trained on Augmentative and Alternative Communication.
[Applause.] We are continuing to improve teacher development to

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ensure that we are delivering education, especially for learners
with special education needs.

But for this category of schools, we also need personnel to be able
to ensure that we deliver better quality education. We have filled
179 support staff posts in special schools and 131 professional in
support staff posts will be filled in this academic year by February
2017. These posts include house mothers and fathers to look after
our learners, accounting clerks to manage the finances of the
schools, drivers and cleaners and this kind of professionals such as
social workers, professional nurses who are very critical for the
functioning of special schools. [Applause.]

Another important component of Basic Education is the provision of
safe infrastructure, habitable and conducive to the teaching and
learning. We are one of the provinces in this country that has in
the past two years, spend its entire infrastructure budget in its
quest to eradicate all inappropriate school infrastructure. In this
previous financial year, we completed 141 school projects from
classrooms to nutrition centres. [Applause.] The first two quarters
of this year, we have completed 154 projects and we aim to
accelerate our delivery in the remaining months of the financial
year.

We must point out that there are still serious infrastructure
backlogs in the province and that is why hon members when they do

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oversight, they will talk about this and that school. Limpopo has
more than 3 900 schools. So, one school is one too much. The
rebuilding of Vuwani schools alone need an amount of more than
R400 million, while we still have a backlog as per our assessment
with the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research, CSIR, with
regard to norms and standards on school building on new
infrastructure.

We also have 120 storm damaged schools across the province that
happened during the end of 2015 November and the beginning of 2016
which our estimated cost is R1,2 billion. We are almost in the
season for rain and storms and we might incur further damages.

The Department of Education has made great strides in ensuring that
needy learners who walk long distances to schools are provided with
scholar transport. Our province is largely rural and marked by
scattered and dispersed rural settlements.

The learner transport programme has tremendously expanded since
2006-07 where we were transporting 10 000 learners to the tune of
R21 million. Currently, hon Chair, we are transporting 31 703
learners in 372 schools to the tune of R145 million. [Applause.]

One of the issues that have been raised in this august House, which
hon members have been asking us has been the continued improvement
in the management of finances in the province in the department.

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Members of this House are familiar with the fact that Limpopo was
put under section 100 of the Constitution and that we have now
progressively improved to ensue that we comply with the Public
Finance Management Act, PFMA. Of course, we are working with the
Provincial Treasury in terms of section 18 of the PFMA to ensure
that we continue to improve the financial management and we are
working with the Auditor-General‘s office to ensure that come 2017,
we are be able to get proper audit outcome.

Besides the solid partnership with SA Police Service, SAPS, our
intervention has focus in addressing element of physical
infrastructure related to proper fencing, burglar proofing and
strengthening of partnership with the relevant stakeholders,
especially because schools safety issues are also a challenge in the
province.

The successes of these efforts, of course, rely largely on parents
and communities to work with the schools to ensure that our children
are safe and realise their full potential. It is therefore important
for parents and communities to participate actively in addressing
and promoting schools safety as they are well positioned to see to
it that children are safe where they are.

Of course, one of the programmes that we are engaging is the
National School Nutrition Programme, NSNP. We are fitting
1,6 million children per each school day in the province. We are

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addressing the challenges relating to our efficiencies and
effectiveness, especially when disruption of education takes place.
This programme is affected as if it happened in the area of one.

Then, the total numbers of schools in our province benefitting from
the no fees school are 95%. We are working very hard with limited
resources to ensure that we are able to deliver education to the
poorest of the poor in our province. Thank you, Chairperson.

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION: Hon Chairperson, I think my
homegirl was complaining about the seat because she wanted me to sit
next to her and not so far away from her. However, thank you very
much for the invitation that has been extended to me and certainly
it‘s always a pleasure to be in this esteemed House. I recognise my
Deputy Minister ... my colleague over here, members of executive
councils, MECs, for Education of KwaZulu-Natal, Limpopo and the
Eastern Cape. Thank you so much for making the effort to be here and
for participating in this very, very important debate.

The issue of quality education in terms of the debate really applies
to these three provinces but I think it‘s good to recognise that
education is a concurrent competency, and that as a national
department we have a responsibility to support our provincial
counterparts and that we work collaboratively, and that the
department is given an opportunity to articulate its position.

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My colleagues have quite correctly raised the issue of nutrition so
it would be very useful to inform this House that countrywide we
feed 9,7 million children on each school day, and that‘s quite
remarkable on its own. [Applause.] We take note of the fact that the
Eastern Cape for example has some 5 400 schools unlike Limpopo which
has 3 900 schools. However, the reality in the system of education
within the Eastern Cape is that from that 5 400 schools there are
more than 1 000 schools that have fewer than 135 learners, which
meant that immediate steps had to be taken and indeed have been
taken with regard to the mergers, rationalisation and closures of
these schools. Arising from the processes that were put in place
after the challenge in the High Court in the Western Cape, what the
national department has done is to provide all provinces with a
guideline, particularly with regard to consultative procedure when
schools are merged or closed so that we are not found wanting in
terms of the processes that have to be followed.

The Department of Basic Education can celebrate the fact that it
works very closely with all nine provinces; that it works with all
district directors across the country. For the past 10 years we have
been meeting with district directors every quarter — that is the
Minister, Deputy Minister, director-general, senior management of
the Department of Basic Education and district directors from all
across the country. The value of that is really to create a system
of education that would benefit every child within the system. It‘s
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professional practice where district directors are able to share and
exchange best practice and ideas, to begin to better understand the
teaching and learning environment and learn from each other. This
has proved to be invaluable.

Beyond that, what we do as a national department is to ensure that
when we meet 50% of the agenda is developed by the district
directors and the other 50% by the Department of Basic Education so
that they have an opportunity to raise matters that affect them. So,
if for example I would stand here and I would learn from the
district directors that in the Eastern Cape they had serious
problems with regard to capacity, they can now say to you that they
have sufficient quantity surveyors, architects and engineers to
assist them with the infrastructure development programme, and the
Department of Basic Education is supporting them.

What we can share with you is that in the Eastern Cape alone ... and
you know we tend to ... 22 years ... Dr Vawda was saying that in
22 years we haven‘t done much. I think we have done significantly
much. We have created a single and a uniform system of education, we
have dealt with the issue of equity, we have ensured that eight out
of 10 children in our country attend no-fee schools and we have
ensured that those who are in fee paying schools are exempted by law
from paying fees if they are poor and indigent. [Applause.] That is
remarkable. Free education is a reality.

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For example, we have ensured that we distribute more than 55 million
workbooks to our children, black and white, quintile 1 and quintile
5 schools, because at the heart of what we do is the best interest
of a child. It does not matter whether a poor child is in the
Western Cape or in Gauteng. That is our child and that is our
responsibility.

To give you an example, a good illustration would be the phenomenon
of mud schools. Mud schools for example were a phenomenon that was
not peculiar to the Eastern Cape. Previously it resided in KwaZuluNatal, Limpopo, Mpumalanga, the Free State, the Eastern Cape and
parts of the Western Cape. We have eliminated that phenomenon in all
provinces except for the Eastern Cape given its huge ... it‘s a huge
... the largest learner population came from the Eastern Cape. It‘s
now been overtaken by Gauteng. [Interjections.] However,
interestingly, and I want you to listen to this, we have built more
than 103 schools, replacing these mud schools. These are state of
the art schools with laboratories and libraries, where kitchen
utensils are provided, with kitchen preparation areas and Grade R
classes. That‘s quite remarkable.

However, which is the second biggest beneficiary of your Accelerated
Schools Infrastructure Delivery Initiative, Asidi, programme? It‘s
the Western Cape. It has already received 22 state of the art
schools. They are in Atlantis, in Heideveld and in the poorest area
which this particular government was unable to provide to them in

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time. We could not neglect or marginalise those children. They are
our children and indeed we have provided that infrastructure. Yet,
that is a responsibility we have to all provinces, irrespective of
party political affiliations and we will continue to act in that
particular way.

When we hear — and it‘s important that we have debates of this
nature — the MEC speak about the access to education that he
provided in the Eastern Cape, what we could take pride in given the
reality ... and this is what Dr Vawda had correctly pointed out ...
is that education is a continuum. It‘s not about your Grade 12
examination results but it starts off from your preschool to your
school and beyond. In so far as that is concerned, I think the
Eastern Cape has done remarkably well. Ninety-eight per cent of
Grade R learners are in school. That is quite remarkable. More than
95% of the learners in the Eastern Cape attend no-fee schools and
more than 96% of learners in Limpopo attend no-fee schools. So that
is quite remarkable. Strides are being made, changes are taking
place and challenges are there.

However, the question then is ... and I don‘t think any of the
speakers, including the hon member who started the debate, had
reflected on what do we do about the outcomes for Grade 12. Perhaps
we should reflect on that, not in a negative way but in a positive
way, by saying what we heard is that there were interventions that
have been made and continue to be made. For example in KwaZulu-Natal

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alone the national Department of Basic Education has had more than
10 strategic meetings. It sends its senior officials to assist the
department. The department ... the MEC has correctly pointed out
what steps he has taken to ensure that they enhance the opportunity
and intensify the campaign to improve learner outcomes.

As a national department we receive a quarterly report from each of
these three provinces regarding identified schools. So for example
in the Eastern Cape we have identified 580 schools, in Limpopo we
have identified two districts in particular, including the Waterberg
area and in KwaZulu-Natal we have identified 360 schools. They would
tell us quarterly that these are the outcomes for the first term;
this is the outcome for the second term for Grade 9, Grade 10, Grade
11 and Grade 12. It‘s not only Grade 12. So that we are able to
intervene, support and monitor what is happening out there because
we recognise that it‘s something that we cannot celebrate. The
decline in performance is something that we have to correct and
remediate. It is that honesty that results in us collaborating with
each other and saying, well, we have to do more.

Limpopo itself — and it‘s a good example to use Limpopo — can boast
about two schools, Mbilwi and Dendron, in the very area of Vuwani
where we have had the problems. For the past 10 years in every
single year those schools have produced more than 50 distinctions in
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10 learners in each year ... [Applause.] ... that have achieved 100%
in Mathematics and 100% in Science. That is from Limpopo.

We have these pockets of excellence not only in Limpopo but we have
them in KwaZulu-Natal. If you take your Pinetown district in
KwaZulu-Natal for example, it compares favourably to any other
district in the country. The question is what do you do to identify
areas of weakness? This is what has been happening. In KwaZulu-Natal
and Limpopo we have worked with the National Education Collaboration
Trust to ensure that we, the Department of Basic Education together
with the private sector, provide support to those areas.

I would like to thank the hon MECs for their commitment and passion
to do work. In Limpopo for example, with regard to the Vuwani
matter, we sent a dedicated team there but we didn‘t do it alone. We
had the MEC for Education and the acting head of department to
assist there.

One of the phenomena that we have to address ... KwaZulu-Natal has
done very well in filling acting position posts. Not so in Limpopo
or the Eastern Cape. Those vacant posts must be filled sooner rather
than later because the lack of a permanent appointment results in
inefficiency in the system for which you pay a price in the long
run. I am not at all suggesting that our system of education is
where it should be but I can say, as I have said before, that we are
moving away from mediocrity and achieving excellence.

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Just think for a moment that at the end of this year there will be
more than 700 000 learners that will be sitting for their matric
results. This is something that we couldn‘t even think about
20 years ago. It means that slowly but surely we are turning the
wheel around. Ninety-two per cent of all children in this country
have received at least one year of preschool learning. It‘s
critical. We speak about workbooks, 55 million of which have been
distributed. What about those that are disabled? Blind children are
now able to receive books from Grade 1 to Grade 4 — and we are busy
with Grades 5 and 6 — which are interactive in Braille. It means
that we are sensitive. If indeed we as the ruling party the ANC wish
to create a caring and humane society, then we have to pay
particular attention to inclusive education to the needs of the poor
... of the poor.

At the heart of the matter ... and I don‘t say this with any
contempt ... is to say that I don‘t like the term black, coloured
and Indian, BCI. I don‘t like the term BCI because it goes against
the tenets of the national democratic revolution. The national
democratic revolution was basically about changing and creating
transformation in the lives of blacks in general and Africans in
particular. So when you talk about black you talk about African,
Indian and coloured. When you talk about African it‘s African. So
when we talk about BCI we seem to say that blacks are only African.
The national democratic revolution is not only about the Africans;
it‘s also about coloureds, Indians and in time as a result of our

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commitment to creating an equal society, surely we cannot neglect
those whites who are on the periphery of society.

It means that our commitment to quality education has to be a
collective one and in order to achieve that we have to elevate it to
a societal issue. There is hope and there is belief. Are we doing
things right? Let‘s see what is happening. We‘ve got this freedom
for fees must fall. We have some university students, not all of
them — it will be overhasty to generalise — who are misbehaving.
What did the Congress of SA Students, Cosas, do? It marched to the
Johannesburg Stock Exchange. It didn‘t disrupt a single school. Not
one stone was thrown and they demanded that the private sector
contribute R1 billion towards university fees. That comes from
school children ... leadership in schools and I do believe that they
are indeed leading the way for a better future. It is not about
rampant, disorganised, unco-ordinated demands but really an
understanding of the landscape of our country and to say that
socioeconomic transformation cannot be carried out by government
alone. It requires an entire society. It requires the private sector
to do it.

I do believe that in this House you have this opportunity as
political parties to work together towards a common goal, and the
goal that we should basically subscribe to in the context of this
debate is to say, let us recognise, accept and affirm that there had
been a decline in the quality of education in the performance of our

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learners in Grade 12 last year. Let us work together towards
enhancing the opportunities of those learners because inherent in
each of those learners ... and I can assure you that I can swear in
the name of God because I do visit these schools. I go to our rural
schools as does the Minister ... that year after year you can see
the improvement in literacy and numeracy, and they have the ...
[Inaudible.] ... ability to perform as well as anybody else. Given
all the resources, given better opportunity I do believe we will not
only run; we will fly. [Applause.]

Ms T G MPAMBO-SIBHUKWANA: One minute 54 seconds. Can I be
compensated please?

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON — COMMITTEES (Mr A J Nyambi): Can you
continue? I will take care of the rest.

Ms T G MPAMBO-SIBHUKWANA: Thank you. Chairperson, I‘m very glad that
the previous speaker who was the Deputy Minister acknowledged that
there is a decline in education in the Eastern Cape. He said it out
of his mouth. I allude to the invitation that I must give strategies
on how to rectify the wrong. To address systemic issues a number of
interventions are necessary, which include:

Firstly, ensuring that teachers are accountable for their
performance, are appropriately selected and not cadre deployed, and
are trained and supported;

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Secondly, where subject expertise is more difficult to cultivate and
retain, using roving teachers who are not employed by the specific
school but who move between schools in a certain district during the
academic year will alleviate the employment opportunities;

Thirdly, also ensure the highest possibility of quality of learning
at schools by performance-related incentives for school managements
based on excellence in education outcomes as measured through
national assessments or improvement in education outcomes over time;

Let me put it straight to the hon Kgetjepe of Limpopo. Schools must
receive textbooks timeously. It must be delivered timeously. One of
the things we heard was that there is still late delivery of
textbooks.

Fourthly, that we also recognise the importance of technology as a
powerful enabler of opportunities in education and that e-learning
has the potential to close the gap between the well-resourced and
poorly resourced schools. Take this as a model from the Western
Cape; and

Finally, that there is access to utilities, sanitation — especially
in Vhudzani where the ablution services are in an appalling state
and which compromises the dignity of our learners — libraries,
laboratories, workshops and basic information technology and
communication equipment.

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We all believe in quality education and for all individuals
regardless of race, class and gender. If we can implement positive
change and increase access and quality of education at grassroots
level, the general dissatisfaction with education could be
significantly reduced. Let me put it straight to you hon Makhupula.
The teachers ...

The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON — COMMITTEES (Mr A J Nyambi): Hon Mpambo–
Sibhukwana, I have added a minute more to your time. Conclude.

Ms T G MPAMBO-SIBHUKWANA: Can I thank everybody? Yes. Hon Makhupula,
you need to retrieve the money that was paid to ghost teachers by
Portia Sizani and give it to the right people who are the learners.
Let me take this opportunity to thank every effort that was shaping
and restructuring education and also say to hon Surty that nutrition
is given but the kitchens are not provided. I thank you.

THE ROAD TO 2030: RURAL WOMEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF AGENDA 2030

(Subject for Discussion)

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND LAND REFORM: Hon
Chairperson, thanks to the just departed Deputy Minister for giving
us political education about South Africa. Hon Chair, hon members of
this House, esteemed delegates, invited guest, it is always a
pleasure to interact with members of this House and therefore I am

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delighted to represent the department in this important debate – the
importance of women.

Although we are discussing a very important subject about women, it
is quite disgusting that a woman is disturbing a debate about women.
On every occasion when I step in this hon House, memories of the
late former Chief Whip, a comrade and friend ...

... uMaMncotshe, uMsunu ... [...MaMncotshe, Msunu...]

... hon Nosipho Ntwanambi, force themselves to the fore. When I
entered here it seemed I would see her sitting somewhere.

Our theme today is, The Road to 2030: Rural Women at the Forefront
of Agenda 2030 – not Fransman! [Laughter.] I hope that more
delegates present here today will agree with me when I say-there are
just not enough days set aside to recognise the contribution of
women in general as we advance towards a national democratic
society, NDS. This hold particularly through for our rural women
because rural women, more than any sector of women, face daunting
challenges.

Thank you, leadership of the NCOP, for forcing us to remember our
rural women – the most downtrodden even amongst women.

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Abona bantu benza kutyiwe emakhaya ngokuba balande amanzi baphinde
bathwale iinkuni. [The main people who prepare food at home by
fetching water from the rivers and collect wood.]

The first International Day of Rural Women was observed on 15
October 2008. This new international day, established by the UN
General Assembly in its resolution 62/136 of 18 December 2007,
recognises, ―The critical role and contribution of rural women,
including indigenous women, in enhancing agricultural and rural
development, improving food security and eradicating rural poverty.‖
This is in line with the government‘s Nine-Point Plan on
revitalising agriculture and agroprocessing value chain.

As our country celebrates the 60th anniversary of the 1956 Women‘s
March to the Union Buildings, rural women also need to be considered
for their efforts and contribution in fighting for the emancipation
and wellbeing of their communities. In its mission to support the
government‘s overall transformation agenda, our department, the
Department of Rural Development and Land Reform, is committed to
national, regional and international initiatives aimed at developing
and empowering women.

This is done in order to ensure the empowerment of women in rural
areas, not only in their individual capacity but also as agents of
change irrespective of where they come from. Capacitating women in
rural areas would enable them to participate in the overall economic

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productivity, given their large presence in the agricultural
workforce worldwide.

Our department has since initiated and supported activities that put
rural women to the front, through consultation and involvement in
its developmental programmes and projects. The mainstreaming of
women issues into departmental programmes and projects that are
aimed at improving their socioeconomic development, especially in
those remote areas of the country has since been the core business
of the department.

The National Development Plan, NDP, which is the long term plan of
the Republic, states that, ―Rural communities require greater
social, economic and political opportunities to overcome poverty.‖
To achieve this, the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform
has introduced the Rural Economy Transformation model as the system
under which rural development and land reform must be undertaken.
The model focuses on 4 key areas: Land, cropping, livestock and
community.

Under the key focus areas that have been stated, there are various
programmes and projects that are being undertaken by the department
to advance the developmental agenda of women. They include Narysec
programme for young women, recapitalisation and development
programme, proactive acquisition of strategic land, etc. For
instance, the strategic land acquisition.

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From 1994, the previous Department of Land Affairs, implemented a
Land Distribution Programme that enabled eligible individuals and
groups to obtain a settlement land acquisition to a maximum of
R16 000 per household for the purchase of land directly from a
willing seller, including the state, in terms of Provision of Land
and Assistance Act 126 of 1993 – that is quite disappointing. This
grant enabled beneficiaries to practice mixed land use in that it
could be used for both agriculture and housing.

In 2009, the department conducted a series of consultations with
land reform beneficiaries. This resulted in the department bringing
the use of the grants to a close, and shifting the focus towards the
acquisition of strategically located agricultural land.

This land would then be made available to beneficiaries that
included, amongst others, farm workers, National Rural Youth
Services Corps participants, Narysec participants, women, and
unemployed agricultural graduates. Under this programme government
has acquired land for redistribution under lease hold.

Since 1994 to date, government has acquired 5 281 farms, and 66 721
women have been beneficiaries to this land delivery programme.

Bendicinga ukuba siza kuqhwaba. [Kwaqhwatywa.] [I thought we will
applaud. [Applause.]]

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Nine hundred and two farms were acquired in KwaZulu-Natal alone,
benefiting 21 760 women; 878 farms in Free State, benefiting 2 293;
and 868 farms in the Eastern Cape benefiting 3 851 women – just on
that project.

On Recapitalisation and Development Programme, RADP, in 2009, the
department undertook an evaluation of the implementation of our
programs since their inception. It identified that many land reform
projects were not successful and thus in distress or lying fallow.
The Recapitalization and Development Programme was therefore
introduced in order to address these challenges by targeting
properties acquired since 1994 through Restitution and
Redistribution programmes including privately owned.

There are approximately 1 496 farms under the programme since 2009.
This constitutes more than a million hectares, amounting to a total
amount spent of R4 billion, which secured approximately 651
strategic partnerships to provide technical, financial and
Infrastructure support to farmers. The support varies from
production inputs, infrastructure, machinery and implements.

In line with the National Development Plan‘s, ―Potential of creating
one million jobs in the agricultural sector‖, this spending
translated in the creation of approximately 7 731 jobs - of which
more than 3 000 are for women, as well as training of 2 937 farmers
- of which more than 1 000 of those are women.

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On the Narysec programme, the challenges faced in South Africa by
youth a consideration of this programme. Unemployment especially
requires urgent intervention in our country. The lack of skills is
often the underlying cause of this challenge. Due to the challenges
of unemployment and the shortage of skills, the National Rural Youth
Service Corps, commonly known as the Narysec, has become an
important instrument in developing rural youth.

Since March 2015, the Narysec youth were recruited from the
different provinces where the Department of Rural Development is
establishing agriparks.

Each year three intakes takes place, namely

in March, August and September.

After recruitment the youth reports to the Narysec Thaba ‗Nchu
College. They firstly go through an orientation programme, various
life skills and career guidance programmes. Thereafter, the youth
undergo a very stringent youth leadership development programme,
preparing them to be better people as they leave that programme
ready to face and build a South African nation.

Once they have completed the leadership training, they need to
perform community service and also undergo a learnership programme.
The skills these youth are trained in will enable them to face the
challenges as indicated.

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Since its inception in 2010 the Narysec programme had a significant
focus on empowering female youth in particular. At present, the
Programme has 3 930 female youth, compared to 2 776 male youth. The
number of female youth who have graduated with a completed
qualification from Narysec is 2 469, while 1 312 female youth are
awaiting graduation.

The following two Narysec youth are examples of what young women
have achieved. Dorcas Makwe was enrolled into the Narysec Programme
in 2010. She completed her training programme and exited Narysec
during March 2015. She has registered a cooperative namely the
Reaiketsetsa Agricultural and Trading Cooperative, and she is
currently growing vegetables utilising hydroponic tunnels. She was
also nominated as one of the successful participants and was
provided an opportunity to visit China as part of a two-week study
tour.

Beauty Hlongwane was enrolled into the Narysec programme during 2012
and she exited the programme during 2016. She formed a cooperative
named Itsoseng Setjhaba, specialising in livestock farming and
vegetable gardening. Currently, she is being mentored by Karan Beef
and has participated in a pilot project where vegetables from her
project are being provided to hotels.

Hayi siyaqhuba! [[No we are moving forward!]Applause.]

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The Enterprise and Industrial Development Policy that has been
drafted within the mandate of the department aims to support the
growth of sustainable enterprises within the departmental
programmes, and ensuring alignment also with other governmental
support. The department is working closely with Department of Trade
and Industry and the Department of Social Development in this
regard.

The policy places particular emphasis on addressing the needs of
survivalist, micro, small, medium and large enterprises. The
department focuses on development of enterprises - from small
businesses to registered cooperatives - in the rural spaces, and
most of the enterprises supported are managed and owned by women.

In 2015-16 the department has supported 216 enterprises in the
agricultural value chains, mainly poultry, red meat, wool industry,
horticulture value chains, as well as nonagricultural arts and
craft, and textile value chains. In quarter 1 of 2016-17, 25
enterprises have been supported. Ongoing skills development is
facilitated.

Inn the last financial year, impact in terms of skills development
was made in the cotton, grains, wool, livestock and arts and craft
programmes. The department has also assisted enterprises with market
linkages. Eight agreements in this regard were signed in the last
financial year.

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At the end of the last financial year and in the first quarter of
this one: 27 rural people, representing mostly women on arts and
craft, and sewing cooperatives, were assisted to exhibit at the Rand
Easter Show; and 10 rural people represented nine co-operatives at
Decorex, where they have been selling products as well as getting
orders. For example, the ceramic co-operative has managed to receive
orders to an amount of R80 000 during the Decorex exhibition.

One of the cooperatives was given 5 000 ostrich eggs to bead. This
also contributes to job creation and skills development in rural
areas. A further 16 people representing 26 cooperatives will be
assisted to exhibit in August. One of the flagship programmes of the
department, the Rural Enterprise and Industry Development programme,
is the support is gives to rural women in the arts and craft, and
design sector.

In 2010, the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform
supported the training of rural women in craft production in the
Eastern Cape, KwaZulu-Natal, Limpopo and Mpumalanga, initially on
six sites and later seven sites when Utrecht was added in 2012. The
activities included training, mentoring, and supply of craft
materials, travel and accommodation costs, sponsoring of stalls at
shows and so forth.

In conclusion, in order to ensure that Vision 2030 is realised for
the developmental agenda of rural women, government will strive to

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ensure that rural communities have better opportunities to
participate fully in the economic, social and political life of the
country. We therefore would like to ensure that there is better
integration of the country‘s rural areas, achieved through
successful land reform, infrastructure development, job creation and
poverty alleviation. I thank you, sir! [Applause.]

Ms T MOTARA: House Chairperson, hon Deputy Minster, special
delegates, hon members of the NCOP.

The subject matter for today‘s debate gives us an opportunity to
remember the construction of Bantustans and the consequence of rural
poverty in South Africa today. As we reflect on the plight of rural
women in relation to the National Development Plan, NDP, we must
remember that apartheid laws most impacted women more severely,
especially the Black Areas Land Regulations of 1969. These
regulations provided that land may be allocated only to the male of
the family.

In addition, the Black Administration Act (1927) and customary law,
regarded women as minors who could not own property or conclude
contracts in their own right. In addition, customary law denied
women the capacity to be allocated land in their personal capacity.
Their tenure was linked to their status in relation to other male
members of the family as wives, mothers, daughters and sisters.
Therefore, the challenges faced by rural women today, are

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manifesting themselves precisely because of this inherited legacy of
oppression.

As a precursor, the plight of rural women must therefore be located
within the broader context of our developmental state. A state
which still contends with the challenges of inherited poverty. A
state that recognises its citizens as the apex priority of its
developmental agenda.

Hon members, it is precisely due to the remaining effects of this
painful past that the NDP has placed rural women at the forefront
of its development agenda.

The NDP is not only South Africa‘s blue-print for growth and
development. The plan radically challenges the status quo of
economic stagnation. It radically challenges social apathy and
generational poverty, including all factors that inhibit growth and
development in South Africa.

If we look at the NDP within this broader context, it is clear
that this plan is a radical social contract for transformation,
capturing the hopes and dreams of ordinary South Africans across
the board. The plan makes bold socio-economic commitments to uproot
abject poverty, unemployment and economic exclusion.

If effectively galvanised, the NDP can become the most viable

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mechanism for transforming South Africa into a cohesive and
economically inclusive society.

After being approved by Cabinet in 2012, the plan was also
endorsed across all the key sectors and spheres of influence in the
country. This new growth path has therefore been affirmed as the
most feasible and the most appropriate development tool for this
phase of our transition.

It therefore follows, that the NDP must be recognised as South
Africa's comprehensive strategic plan for broad based development,
having convincingly mobilised the country around a clear vision for
radical transformation.

Hon members, the NDP regards a successful land reform programme as
a precursor to the development of an inclusive rural economy. It
seeks to achieve this through increased direct and indirect jobs in
the agriculture, agro- processing and related sectors.

It also calls for the activation of rural economies through
improved infrastructure, services to small and micro farmers and
investments in tourism.

It also further calls for the review of

land tenure and the creation of land tenure security for communal
farmers, especially women, in order to create jobs in agriculture
and related sectors by 2030.

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Furthermore, the NDP dictates that gender should not be an
obstacle to accessing land. This is also in line with the
regional protocol on gender and development. The NDP also proposes
a land reform model which, in summary, seeks to speed up the
process of access to and ownership of land by black people.

Parliament recognises these policy priorities as critical
imperatives and has begun to align itself at a macro level to the
overarching vision of the NDP.

After conferring extensively at the beginning of the fifth
Parliament, a unanimous decision was taken to oversee the
implementation of the NDP as the central theme for the fifth
Parliament.

As government‘s operational strategy that is more medium term, the
plan prioritises rural development, land reform and food security
as part and parcel of its key focus areas. These are some of the
key medium term priorities that the NCOP must continue to
prioritise, as committed in its strategic plan.
In order to catalyse implementation, a radical shift is now
necessary to meaningfully align the NDP to the role of the NCOP in
advancing its implementation.

As conferred by the Constitution, the NCOP represents provinces, so
as to ensure that provincial interests are taken into account in

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the national sphere of government. It does this mainly by
participating in the national legislative process and by providing
a forum for public consideration of the issues affecting
provinces

In order for the NCOP to be more effective, it must locate its
role within the broader context of its capability to effect farreaching and resilient policy changes.

Furthermore, the impact of such resilient policy changes must be
continually monitored and their impact regularly evaluated, in
order to ensure that we stay on course to achieve the goals set
out in the plan.

In further crystallising the role of the NCOP to advance the NDP
agenda, it is necessary that we deepen our focus into the role of
committees and how they are positioned to accelerate
implementation.

In line with the Constitution, Parliamentary committees are
central to exercising oversight by means of amongst others,
actively involving the public and public representatives with a
clear focus on transparent government and accelerated
transformation.

Through the strategic utilisation of the oversight and

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accountability functions conferred on them, committees must begin
to effect radical social transformation. This is the kind of
transformation that communities must be able to recognise and
experience at local level. This is the kind of transformation that
must eradicate abject poverty and create opportunities.

Furthermore, as the engine rooms of Parliament‘s institutional
drive, the NCOP committees must position themselves to give
radical, political and administrative impetus to the NDP.

In addition, Parliament‘s strategic plan has already committed
itself to effecting changes to the programme of Parliament so as
to allow for greater effectiveness of processes, especially the
requirements of oversight and public involvement.

Within this broader context, we must begin to see committees being
more innovative in exercising their oversight functions. They must
be equally decisive and radical in their approach, while taking
precautions to centre their approach on the precepts of cooperative
governance and intergovernmental relations.

Hon Chairperson, there is also an increasing recognition that the
legislature, through a sound understanding of South Africa‘s fiscal
policy and economic development, has an important role to play in
overseeing the implementation of the NDP.

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In recognising that the objectives of the NDP can only be realised
through adequate budgetary and resource allocation, it must hence
follow that the NCOP‘s NDP oversight drive be anchored within
government‘s fiscal framework.

This oversight drive must be target based with clear measures and
markers, so as to allow for seamless monitoring by committees.
This target based process will enable both the executive and the
legislative sector to work on a commonly accepted roadmap for the
country‘s development.

There are however, some remaining challenges.

The implementation of legislation has been weak due to a lack of
enforcement mechanisms, especially in land tenure. For example,
despite the Extension of Security Tenure Act‘s, ESTA, protective
provisions, in practice, women‘s security of tenure is subject to
the presence of a male partner. As a result, in some cases women get
evicted when their partners are evicted following retrenchment or
dismissal or when they die.

Although the Department has encouraged participation of women in land
reform projects, there has been no concerted effort to mainstream
women's issues in land reform projects.

The existence of patriarchal tendencies and the continued

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recognition of customary law and traditional authority in land
administration that tends to disadvantage women undermine women‘s
access to land and property. Women in rural areas can still lose
rights and access to land after divorce or the death of her husband.

It is now incumbent on us as this leadership collective, to continue
to engage in a battle of ideas, so as to unlock an effective
oversight process to activate rural economies and deal with the
remaining challenges.

For as long as the material conditions of rural women have not been
significantly changed, the course to advance the National
Democratic Revolution, NDR, in this respect remains valid. For as
long as women in rural areas are unable to transition into a better
quality of life, the course of the NDR must remain undeterred. I
thank you.

Ms B A ENGELBRECHT: Hon Chair, according to the World Bank in 2014
our rural population stood at almost 20 million people, this is 40%
of our South African population, 38% of them are woman equating to
15,2 million rural woman. These are the women living in rural
communities who have multiple roles in their communities as farmers,
mothers, homemakers and caregivers, and are often exposed to extreme
poverty and have traditionally been regarded as people who belong at
home.

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They are lagging behind the rest of the country in terms of economic
growth and potential. These are the women that have been left
behind. Society and culture define women‘s social role primarily as
the caregivers and caretakers and in relation to their reproductive
function.

In contrast, men are regarded as the breadwinners and are defined by
their productive role. These women are left behind to raise families
when many of their husbands go to look for work in urban areas.
These women are isolated and left behind when it comes to economic
opportunities and social services such as health, sanitation and
education.

A women‘s position in society is determined both by her access to
paid employment, and the status accorded to her reproductive and
domestic role. Large proportions of rural households are female
headed and are dependent on the women‘s ability to access
opportunities and provide for the household.

They face immense challenges such as poor quality and limited access
to education; lack of access to water for both household use and
agricultural development; low literacy and low skills levels and the
lack of technical know-how as compared to women in urban areas; poor
access to infrastructure and services where roads are inaccessible,
hampering their economic opportunities; municipal services such as
electricity and adequate sanitation are mostly absent; increasing

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exposure to risks related to natural disasters, environmental
changes and increasing occupational and health risks.

These things all impact on rural women‘s ability to participate and
contribute economically. In largely rural provinces such as the
Eastern Cape, KwaZulu-Natal and Mpumalanga, hunger and food
insecurity are very real threat and severely constrains human and
economic potential. The provinces with the highest percentages of
rural areas are Limpopo 78%, KwaZulu-Natal 66% and the Eastern Cape
63% of rural areas.

In the Eastern Cape, 845 000 households do not have access to
toilets. One point one million households in KwaZulu-Natal and 1,2
million households in Limpopo are without toilets. This affects
women‘s privacy and their dignity. In the Eastern Cape 442 000
households do not have access to piped water. Four hundred and
eighteen thousand households in KwaZulu-Natal and 321 000 households
in Limpopo are without piped water.

In the Eastern Cape 206 000 households are without any access to
electricity; 324 000 households in KwaZulu-Natal, and 101 000 in
Limpopo, this makes life hard, exceptionally hard for these women.
With the many roles and responsibilities within social structures
goes the prevailing belief that women‘s contributions to the
sustainability of the family are much less valuable than men‘s.

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This is why rural women are not only poorer in society as a whole
but also in their own families, and this explains why their level
and kind of poverty is experienced differently and more intensely
than that of men.

Woman invariably has unequal rights in family structures, as well as
unequal access to family resources, such as land and livestock. In
the words of Geisler and Hansen:

As long as men control productive resources, e g land, labour,
tools, credit, housing, etc, women‘s prospects are likely to
differ from men‘s, the more so, under conditions of economic
pressure.

Rural areas account for 80% of land yet are home to around 40% of
the population. Therefore, rural development is critical to reduce
poverty and to improve the general wellbeing of our rural people.

For the rural woman, left behind, existing socioeconomic rights, as
guaranteed in the Constitution, remain inaccessible resulting in the
perpetuation and increase of poverty. For them the constitutional
guarantees of equality and non-discrimination remain theoretical
rights that make no difference to their struggle for survival.

The Constitution of South Africa guarantees the delivery of
socioeconomic rights. These include access to adequate housing, the

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right of access to health care, sufficient food and water, and
social security. This places a constitutional obligation on
government to take action to ensure such access for our rural woman.

Our rural women have been condemned to a world without freedom.
They have been sentenced to a world without fairness and they have
been sentenced to a world without opportunity; and it is our
responsibility to change that. We, as the guardians of this
Constitution must realise that their future is in our hands. I thank
you.

Ms M MOKOTLA (Free State): Hon Chairperson of the NCOP, hon Deputy
Ministers present here today, MECs from different provinces, hon
members and the House at large, I greet you. Hon Chairperson, I
believe that it is proper today to first pay tribute to the greatest
man that ever lived and was born in October. A man who surrendered
his very being to the people, whose ideals of freedom, human dignity
and a nonracial respect for all people can never perish. I salute
Comrade Oliver Tambo. [Applause.]

In 2015, during the celebration of International Day of Rural Women,
the Secretary General of the United Nations Ban Ki-moon had this to
say, and I quote:

To do better for the rural women over the next 15 years, we must
build on the lessons learned during the Millennium Development

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Goal implementation. Extreme poverty is largely a rural
phenomenon. We must build resilient social protection systems,
labour and product markets, governance institutions and civil
society organisations so that rural women can both contribute to
and benefit from sustainable development.

Hon Chairperson, the Africa Gender Equality Index measures gender
equality across three separate dimensions namely: Equality in
economic opportunities, equality in human development and equality
in law and institutions. In all these three dimensions, women bare
the brand of being marginalised; even though they spend more time
than men caring for the wellbeing of their families and communities
in terms of education, health and nutrition.

All African countries recognise the principle of nondescrimination
in their Constitutions and all except the two; have signed the
international convention prohibiting discrimination against women.
The Maputo Protocol on the Rights of Women in Africa is a guarantee
of the rights of women to social and political equality. Despite all
these, women are still being treated as second class citizens not
just in Africa, but all over the world.

The second sustainable development goal says, ―End hunger, achieve
food security and improve institution and promote sustainable
agriculture.‖ This goal to be successfully implemented, the
following must first be realised: Gender equality and the

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empowerment of women and girls must be realised. Rural women‘s
ownership to land must be accelerated as it is crucial to build
resilience to climate change and economic constraints, since it
facilitates their access to credit and microfinance services. They
must enjoy equal access to quality education, economic resources and
political participation.

More resources must be made available for poor, rural infrastructure
development enhancement and access to services. Discrimination from
institutions against rural women, intellectual and property rights
must be dealt with effectively to level the playing field.

However in South Africa, since the dawn of democracy; we have made
strengths in as far as the rights of women are protected and the
following laws bare witness to that. The Domestic Violence Act of
1998, which protects rural women and women who live under customary
law even people who are cohabiting. This is a crucial piece of
legislation, since studies indicate that female victims of domestic
violence incur a greater risk of sexually transmitted diseases
including HIV and Aids.

The recognition of Customary Marriages Act of 2000 recognises all
customary marriages that were valid under customary law, but in this
instance, both parties are equal and the wife has equal share in the
assets and even the dads.

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The Choice on Termination of Pregnancy Act of 1996 recognises
women‘s reproductive health rights and prevents the sometimes fatal
consequences of illegal abortions.

The Maintenance Act of 1998 gives the courts the power to
automatically deduct maintenance from a person‘s salary or to cease
property belonging to nonpaying persons.

In conclusion, allow me to say what the International Labour
Organisation, ILO, Director-General Guy Ryder, said and I quote,
―Let us work together to achieve genuine gender-equality and women‘s
empowerment in the world of work. Decent work for women brings
decent lives for all.‖

Finally, the 2030 agenda for sustainable development reaffirms the
universal consensus on the crucial importance of gender-equality and
its contribution to the achievement of the 17 sustainable
development goals. More jobs and quality jobs for women, universal
social protection and measures to recognise, reduce and redistribute
unpaid care and household work which are indispensable to delivering
on the new transformative sustainable development agenda which aims
to reduce poverty which is Goal 1 and inequality, which is Goal 10
to achieve gender-equality and to promote inclusive and sustainable
economic growth, full and productive employment and decent work for
all, which is Goal 8. I thank you. [Applause.]

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Mr M KHAWULA: Hon Chairperson, hon Deputy Minister, of the total
population of 51,7 million according to the latest census report,
South Africa comprises the majority of her citizens being females at
51,3% and males at 48,7%. In this report, Statistics SA stipulate
that discriminatory practices by gender in South Africa are high.
These discriminatory practices are by social norms, by persistent
stereotypes, inequitable access to opportunities, to resources and
to power. These also include high-levels of gender–based violence.
Whilst women in general are affected by these practices, rural women
are affected the most and suffer the most.

Where the rate of unemployment is high in communities, the rate of
unemployed women is higher than that of men. In the same vein, the
rate of unemployed rural women is much higher than that of their
urban counterparts. The report further states that women with
tertiary education earn around 82% of what their male counterparts
earn.

Women who reside in rural areas, who are between the active ages of
15 and 64, comprise 59,3% of that bracket. For women in rural areas,
access to clean water still remains a problem. Access to quality
education for their children still remains a challenge. Some end up
having to transport their children, using unsafe, unreliable modes
of transport, to nearby towns and cities for quality education.
Access to electricity remains a challenge. Good roads and
infrastructure still remains a far-fetched, pipedream in many rural

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areas. Access to good health facilities still remains a challenge in
some areas.

Usually government offices that provide the much needed services to
communities are located in urban areas. Rural people have to board
buses and taxis in order to get to these offices. These and other
challenges, is the plight of rural women.

When infrastructure development projects are brought to the rural
communities, the service providers are urban citizens. The skilled
personnel are urban people. The well-paying, permanent jobs are
occupied by urban people. The left-overs, paying peanuts, temporal
unskilled labour is then allocated to rural people and rural women.

Goal 5 of agenda 2030 on sustainable development, talks about and I
quote, ―Achieving gender equality and empowerment all women and
girls.‖

At this rate, South Africa will be nowhere near achieving this goal
by 2030 under the current regime. Instead, there will be shifting of
goalposts and finger-pointing. What will rescue this goal is if
South Africans vote properly in 2019 and put in place a focused
government that cares for the people like they have done in the
local government elections of 2016. Put the IFP in power and you
will see proper delivery.

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Another elephant in the room regarding progress in South Africa is
corruption that goes unpunished, nepotism and favouritism - Hlaudi
at the SA Broadcasting Corporation, SABC, is the case in point cadre deployment that totally kills progress, for example SA
Airways, SAA, and performance failure that goes unpunished. Instead,
those who fail get moved from one executive position to another.

Aspiration 6 of Agenda 2063 of the African Union is much related to
the ideals of Agenda 2063. It says that by 2063, Africa will be and
I quote, ―... People-centred and caring; has full gender equality in
all spheres of life.‖ It goes on to declare that rural women will
have access to productive assets, including land, credit, inputs and
financial services.

Access to some of these opportunities was achieved even before 1994
in KwaZulu-Natal under the leadership of Prince Mangosuthu
Buthelezi. However post 1994; we are now talking about adequate
distribution of resources in order to benefit rural women and rural
communities. Moving to the cities and towns in order for them to
access service is not empowerment for rural communities. I thank
you, Chairperson. [Time expired.]

Ms M C DIKGALE: Hon Chairperson, hon members, special delegates,
ladies and gentlemen, the month of October is a very special month
for rural women.

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Ke kgwedi ya mathomo ya selemo ya go lema. Ke kgwedi yeo dipula di
thomago go na. Ke kgwedi ya lethabo go batho le go diphoofolo,
gagolo diphala. Ke nako ya go tswala ga diphala, ebile di kgaramiša
diphalana. Ke ka lebaka leo kgwedi ye e bitšwago Diphalane ka leleme
la gešo. Ge e šetše e retwa go thwe: (Translation of Sepedi
paragraphs follows.)

[This is the first summer month, it the beginning of a ploughing
season. It starts to rain in October. It‘s a happy month to the
people and the animals, especially the impalas since it is a
breeding season for the impalas. That is the reason why this month
is called Diphalane in my language. We praise it like this (praise
song)]:

Ke Diphalane tša madikaphalana ...
Ke Diphalane tša matšema
Matšema a rerwa sentsokela

The notion of Letsema is an African community-centred concept where
community members assist one another in time of need, voluntarily
and for no fee. For example, whenever one member needed a shelter,
the community would form Letsema to build that member a house. The
same would happen during harvesting time where some members were
unable to go to the farms to harvest. Letsema would harvest for the
whole community and share the products among themselves. And at the
forefront of the matšema [plural for Letsema] are rural women.

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It is therefore not a mere coincidence, but rather symbolic as well,
that this week the United Nations marks three observances that
reflect women‘s key role in development - beginning with
International Day of Rural Women on 15 October, World Food Day on 16
October and International Day for the Eradication of Poverty on 17
October.

These interconnected issues are more relevant than ever before, as
the new Agenda 2030 for Sustainable Development has just been
adopted by world leaders as the new global roadmap. Gender equality
and women‘s rights and empowerment are cross-cutting throughout the
2030 Agenda, with its 17 Sustainable Development Goals.

The goals are intrinsically linked to the lives of women and girls
globally, including that of rural women who are vital to its
success. These particular goals are the goals to end poverty in all
its forms everywhere; the goal to end hunger, achieve food security
and improve nutrition and promote sustainable agriculture as well as
the goal to achieve gender equality and women‘s empowerment.

These goals are necessary to have because rural women still face
difficulties when trying to access productive and economic
resources, such as land. They often have limited or no decisionmaking and protection from violence. They also play an increasingly
important role as farm workers, but are the most exploited. As
primary caregivers, some still walk long distances to hew and fetch

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wood for energy purposes as they cannot afford electricity. There
are many more examples, but to continue listing them will be — as we
say it in my language — go kwa mpa mokhora [time-consuming.]

This is why in her message for the 2015 International Day of Rural
Women the United Nations Women Executive Director Phumzile MlamboNgcuka had this to say and I quote:

Agenda 2030 envisages a world in which every woman and girl
enjoys full gender equality and all legal, social and economic
barriers to their empowerment have been removed. We must take
every opportunity to ensure that rural women do not lag behind,
but rather lead the way.

It is therefore important and imperative for us to ask ourselves,
―What is it that we are doing to realise this vision of the Agenda
2030?‖ Luckily, in South Africa our government has put in place
measures to deal with these challenges. One of them is our own
Vision 2030 - the National Development Plan, which proposes a range
of measures to advance women‘s empowerment. It proposes, among
others, that the transformation of the economy should involve active
participation and empowerment of women and that the role of women as
leaders in all sectors of society should be actively supported.

Our government - the ANC-led government, has moved swiftly to
implement this vision. For example, the government has formally

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adopted Letsema or Ilima as one of its socioeconomic growth strategy
to assist our people towards their own development. Participants in
Letsema therefore become members - ―the extended family,‖ as the
Letsema or Ilima is made up of family, friends and neighbours as
well as volunteers.

There is no better time than now to encourage programmes such as
Letsema. This is because the world is currently faced with serious
food security challenge and the climate change is exacerbating the
situation every year. And the rural people are the most affected by
these. It does not need rocket science to know that to alleviate
this food crisis we need to increase food production. Therefore our
people should be encouraged to develop a culture of producing food
for themselves, including producing vegetables in their backyards.
And this is where matšema [plural for Letsema] will be helpful.

In the South African context the Letsema programme therefore
consists of two dimensions. The first dimension seeks to maintain
and increase the ability of South Africa to meet its household and
national food requirements. This involves meeting these needs from
domestic agricultural resources, importing food items that cannot be
produced efficiently and exporting commodities with comparative
advantage.

The second dimension aims to eradicate the widespread inequalities
and grinding poverty among the majority of households that is

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manifested by inadequate and unstable food supplies, lack of
purchasing power, weak institutional support networks, poor
nutrition and inadequate safety nets, weak food emergency management
systems and unemployment.

In addition to this Letsema programme the government also has the
Comprehensive Rural Development Programme, which is focused on
enabling rural people to take control of their lives, with support
from government. The programme aims to effectively deal with rural
poverty through the optimal use and management of natural resources
through an integrated broad-based agrarian transformation and the
strategic investment in economic and social infrastructure that will
benefit rural communities.

As part of this Comprehensive Rural Development Programme, the
government announced in 2014 through the Ministry of Rural
Development and Land Reform, the introduction of the 50/50 policy
framework as part of efforts to ensure that farm workers benefit
from owning shares in the farms on which they work as well as
providing them with security of tenure.

This was followed by the announcement early last year by President
Zuma during the state of the nation address that 50 pilot projects
testing the 50/50 policy would be rolled out around the country. And
one of the first pilot projects that will see workers and farm
owners become co-owners of a farming enterprise as part of

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government‘s 50/50 land policy was officially launched in KwaZuluNatal in August this year.

This land model is a ―win-win‖ for the farmers and the government.
It aims to secure tenure for farm workers while seeking to transform
land ownership patterns in the country and empowering workers to
acquire shares in farming enterprises. However, despite positive
steps like this, much more needs to be done. Parliament must, in
particular - through its oversight role, ensure that polices like
this one are implemented. I am saying this because there have been
many progressive policies and programmes by government that are
deliberately being made to fail by people who are opposed to
transformation. And in most instances, this is based on pure greed
and selfishness.

There are also other programmes such as Landcare Programme,
Comprehensive Agricultural Support Programme and so on, that are
geared towards achievement of food security and improved nutrition,
and promoting sustainable agriculture as well as the goal to achieve
gender equality and women‘s empowerment. It is therefore imperative
for us to support these programmes because statistics and empirical
evidence such as those contained in the United Nations Women Annual
Report of 2015, show that when more women work, economies grow. An
increase in female labour force participation, or a reduction in the
gap between women‘s and men‘s labour force participation, results in
faster economic growth.

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Evidence from a range of countries shows that increasing the share
of household income controlled by women, either through their own
earnings or cash transfers, changes spending in ways that benefit
children; increasing women and girls‘ education contributes to
higher economic growth. Increased educational attainment accounts
for about 50% of the economic growth in Organisation for Economic
Co-operation and Development countries over the past 50 years, of
which over half is due to girls having had access to higher levels
of education and achieving greater equality in the number of years
spent in education between men and women. But, for the majority of
women, significant gains in education have not translated into
better labour market outcomes. A study using data from 219 countries
from 1970 to 2009 found that for every one additional year of
education for women of reproductive age, child mortality decreased
by 9,5% .It is therefore incumbent upon us ... [Time expired.]

Ms R MOGOTLANE - LIMPOPO - MPL: Hon Chairperson of the NCOP, Deputy
Ministers and members of the executive council, MECs, present,
special delegates and compatriots receive heartfelt greetings. Rural
women are the key agents of achieving the transformational economic,
environmental and social changes required for sustainable
development. However, limited access to credit, health care and
education are among the many challenges they face, which are further
aggravated by the global food and economic crises and climate
change.

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Empowering them is the key not only to the wellbeing of individuals,
families and rural communities, but also to overall economic
productivity, given women‘s largest presence in the agricultural
workforce countrywide. I wish to open this address by calling on our
people to accept the maxim that says: There is dignity in gender
equality. All forms of work give dignity to the worker. Therefore,
unemployment, poverty and inequality rob people of human dignity.

In the light of the foregoing and pursuant of the South African
Constitution which underlying spirit, and purport it gives dignity
to South Africans, it‘s our responsibility as the representatives of
people to implore the Department of Agriculture, Forestry and
Fisheries to continue in its effort to actualise this constitutional
mandate. It is within this prism that I would like to speech on
three topics of woman empowerment in key areas of service delivery:
Firstly, access to land; secondly, the status of women in the labour
market; and lastly, poverty and inequality.

Land ownership for women in Limpopo; land has been recognised as a
primary source of wealth, social status and power throughout
history. It builds the foundation to create shelter, grow food, and
harbour economic activities. It also provides the most significant
opportunities in rural areas and is a gradually depleting scarce
resource in urban areas. Access to right in land is often the
condition for other rights such as access to water, other natural
resources, and basic services such as sanitation and electricity.

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The right that society allows the landholders directly affects the
willingness and ability to individuals and businesses to make long
term investments in arable land and housing. In emerging economies,
sustainable developments in contingent on the establishment of
inclusive access to property rights in land and the security of such
rights. Thus, making access to land and the benefits that come with
it more inclusive for women, and maybe the one way to overcome
economic and social disadvantages. Margaret Thatcher in one of her
writings once said:

The land is the only thing in the world worth working for, worth
fighting for, worth dying for, because is the only thing that
lasts.

Land programme in South Africa. In 1992, the ANC initiated its land
policy document which was the first of its kind in South Africa to
call for special process to ensure women‘s equal access to land and
participation in policy formulation and decision making. Moreover,
the Reconstruction and Development Programme, RDP, inclusively
acknowledged women‘s land rights; women face specific disabilities
in obtaining land. The land redistribution programme must therefore
target women. Institutions, practices and laws that discriminate
against women‘s access to land must be reviewed and brought in line
with national policy. In particular tenure and matrimonial laws must
be revised appropriately.

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With regard to labour market; labour market information for gender
analysis is exactly what the term implies - any information about
the intangible arena where the supply and demand of labour
interacts. This includes information about how people work or search
for work, on the system of education and training, on the school-towork transition, how enterprises engage workers, return to labour
the list is endless. Inevitably, there are blockages that prevent a
perfect union of labour supply and demand; discrimination, for
example, prevent a perfect match, as does imperfect infrastructure
that prevent a person from getting to where the jobs are or
imperfect information such that the person does not know where to
look for work.

In looking at the gender dimensions of labour force utilisation, the
values and movements of the indicators will be analysed to address
the following questions: What is the capacity of the economy to
utilise female labour in comparison to male labour? What is the
historical picture of female labour force participation and where do
we see the biggest changes over time? What are the main factors that
drive change in female? What is the correlation between female
labour force and the level of development in the country? What are
the patterns of labour forces over the lifespan of a woman and what
is the influence of childbearing? What is the overall effect when
youth and adult employment trends move in opposite directions?

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Now, recent evidence of poverty amongst rural women; the past 25
years has seen significant progress in reducing poverty. While in
1990 nearly half of the world‘s people lived on less than R1,25 a
day, this figure dropped to 14% in 2015. However, poverty reduction
remains an immense challenge to government around the country, with
approximately 25 million still living in poverty. Therefore,
although gender differences in worldwide poverty rates appear small
when ignoring resources allocation within the household, this may
not reflect the reality of the extent of gender inequality when it
comes to poverty. There are people in the world so hungry that God
cannot appear to them except in the form of bread. These words were
said by Gandhi.

Margaret Thatcher once again wrote ―If you want something said, ask
a man; if you want something done, ask a woman‖. In this days and
time most women‘s shows punctuality on what they‘re doing, taking in
to consideration the role played by woman‘s deployed in different
sectors of government.

As I conclude, the gender gap is growing. It is less one based on
numbers alone. The gap between the number of economically active men
and women has slowly decreasing and on one based more on inequality
in the quality of employment. The women who choose to enter the
labour market are generally highly educated but still face a
difficult time in finding work. For those who do attain work, they
are generally segregated in poorly paid, insecure, home based

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informal employment, partly as a result of lingering discrimination
among employers and partly in response to the female need to combine
family responsibilities with paid employment. As a result, the
earning potential of women continues to be well below than of men.
It is worth reiterating that the goals of equity and inclusive
economic growth cannot be achieved without ensuring women‘s full
participation in the economy. Thank you. [Applause.]

Ms L HLONGWA-MADLALA (KwaZulu-Natal): Hon Chairperson, hon members
and distinguished guests, we are privileged to participate in this
Debate on International Day of Rural Women: the road to 2030: Rural
Women at the forefront of Agenda 2030 when we have just celebrated
the 80th birthday of Mama Winnie Nomzamo Madikizela-Mandela, a
leader, comrade, mother, struggle icon and a beacon of hope for our
society. We want to take this opportunity and declare God‘s
blessings over her life.

Hon Chairperson, we stand on the shoulders of the giants who have
laid a strong foundation for our struggle and we dare not forget
them. As we look into the aspirations of agenda 2030, we remember
Lillian Ngoyi, a struggle icon, Wangari Muta Maathai, a Kenyan
environmentalist, Mirriam Makeba, affectionately known as Mama
Africa, a musician and a political activist, Yaa Asanteewa, queen
mother of Edweso tribe in Ghana, Mkabayi kaJama, regent princess of
the Zulus as well as Queen Mantantise, to mention just a few. All
these women fought struggles in their different corners at different

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epochs but their struggles were about the liberation of Africa in
total, and women in particular.

History indicates that the liberation of women in South Africa is a
long journey in which African women have been leaders and not just
beneficiaries. It is against this historical background that gender
equality occupies a central status in the province of KwaZulu-Natal,
particularly in Operation Sukuma Sakhe which is our service delivery
model. It is a model that encourages participation of all sectors of
the community thus providing a renewed determination in creating a
future of equal rights, opportunity and progress for all.

Rural women, the majority of whom depend on natural resources and
agriculture for their livelihoods, make up over a quarter of the
total world population. In developing countries, rural women
represent approximately 43% of the agricultural labour force. They
produce, process and prepare much of the food available thereby
giving them primary responsibility for food security - bearing in
mind that 76% of the extremely poor live in rural areas. Therefore,
ensuring rural women‘s access to productive agricultural resources
contributes to decreasing world hunger and poverty, and makes rural
women critical for the success of the new sustainable development
agenda for 2030.

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The first International Day of Rural Women was observed on 15
October 2008. This new international day, established by the UN
General Assembly in its resolution 62/136 of 18 December 2007:

Recognises the critical role and contribution of rural women
including indigenous women, in enhancing agricultural and rural
development, improving food security and eradicating rural
poverty.

This is the 8th year we are observing the International Rural
Women‘s Day. A study commissioned by the government of KwaZulu-Natal
revealed that the province has the highest gender-based poverty
incidence and the second highest level of rural poverty in South
Africa. In other words, the face of poverty in our province is that
of rural women.

As part of the provincial strategy for agrarian transformation, the
KwaZulu-Natal Department of Agriculture and Rural Development has
taken a number of bold steps to invest in our women farmers,
including restructuring and devolving the functions of the
department to local districts. The department has also sent
specialists to support small-scale farmers to produce for the market
better.

Earlier this year, the MEC of Agriculture and Rural Development
reported on a successful programme of goat expo and goat meat

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cooking competition. The majority of our poverty-stricken women in
rural areas are goat farmers and the expo formed part of the launch
of the KwaZulu-Natal Goat Master Plan, with the aim of helping more
than 7 000 women goat farmers to move from subsistence to commercial
goat production, aiming ultimately at exporting goat meat to the
Middle East where it is considered a delicacy.

South Africa‘s National Development Plan, NDP, Vision 2030, seeks to
create a united, prosperous, nonracial, nonsexist and democratic
society. This will be achieved by focusing on creating equal
opportunities, and specifically, nullifying factors such as gender
and ethnicity, and by so doing, righting the wrongs of the past and
ensuring true equality before the law.

The NDP envisages an economy and developmental society that serves
the needs of all South Africans, rich and poor, black and white,
skilled and unskilled, those with capital and those without, urban
and rural, women and men. The agreed-upon key actions include
broadening opportunities through economic inclusion and specific
redress measures.

However, it should be noted that because the NDP is the vehicle that
will address poverty, unemployment and inequality in South Africa,
it therefore becomes imperative that the strategies of
implementation become explicit about the approaches that will be

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used. That will ensure the inclusion of the previously marginalised,
such as women, and thereby achieving gender equality.

It is widely accepted that mainstreaming is essential for securing
human rights and social justice for women as well as men. It is also
increasingly recognised that incorporating gender perspectives in
different areas of development ensures the effective achievement of
other social and economic goals.

In order to fully appreciate the need for mainstreaming gender in
policies of development, one first needs to understand why this is
an issue to begin with. Gender, is an issue because of the
fundamental differences and inequalities between women and men. In
South Africa, as in other SADC countries, women and men are
distributed differently across manufacturing sectors, between formal
and informal sectors, within agriculture, and among occupations.

Women are also more likely than men to be in low-paid jobs and
nonstandard work and likely to have less access than men to
productive assets such as education, skills, property and credit.
These patterns mean that economic trends and economic policies are
likely to have different implications for women and men. For
example, trade liberalisation has had uneven impact by sector, with
consequences for both gender equality and economic growth that have
only recently become the subject of investigation.

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During the International Women‘s Day, 8 March 2012, a strong
emphasis was placed on empowering rural women with the aim of
bringing an end to poverty worldwide. The then Minister of Women,
Children and People with Disabilities had this to say:

Rural women, who constitute one fourth of the world‘s population,
continue to face more difficulty than men in accessing public
services, social protection, employment and markets, due to
cultural norms, security issues and lack of identification
documents. Women are disproportionately impacted by negative
effects of climate change due to their social roles.

Ours today is to educate our rural women that roles are changing
because of increasing need for them to participate in the mainstream
economy, climate change and environmental sector discussions,
agriculture, tourism, blue economy, aviation, etc. Both the agenda
2030 and agenda 2063, are highly dependent on women emancipation,
and as such even our budgets must express our commitments in this
regard. Our agenda 2030 will remain in the pipeline if we do not
mobilise resources for the redress.

Political parties must enforce 50% gender parity for us to be a
stronger voice that calls for transformation. We have a huge role to
educate our women to know about what government has made available
for them. Though our struggle is far from being over, but we have
made strides in this area, as the province, and we just need to

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consolidate and further co-ordinate interventions to allow our rural
women to finally see the discussions from Beijing to the NDP 2030.

Education arguably underpins much of women‘s full engagement in the
economy, as is the case for men, and is therefore central to the
achievement of gender equality. It provides access to more
remunerative areas of the labour market through improved skill and
productivity levels, and may have similar impacts for the selfemployed, but it also enables women to engage more meaningfully in
society and make better-informed decisions.

At a broader level, education is seen as key to promoting economic
growth and reducing poverty. Data on enrolment indicates that
females account for an increasing proportion at higher levels of
education. We must keep our girls in schools, help them to be an
AIDS-free generation and reduce the pregnancy rate at age cohort 15
to 24.

Hon Chairperson, I close by quoting UN Secretary-General Ban-Ki-moon
who said:

The new Sustainable Development Goals, SDGs, have gender equality
and women‘s empowerment at their core, and include a target to
double the agricultural productivity and incomes of small scale
food producers, in particular women.

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In deed, rural women are critical to the success of almost all of
the 17 SDGs. I thank you. [Applause.]

Ms M MASEKO (WESTERN CAPE): Chairperson, Hon Thandi Modise, Deputy
Minister, delegates and members, I salute you.

Today, we debate on International Day of Rural Women under the
theme, ―the Road to 2030‖. Every year, we celebrate United Nations
International Day of Rural Women on 15 October. On this day, we
recognise rural women‘s important role in enhancing agricultural and
rural development worldwide.

With that in mind, it is fitting that we celebrate the women that
continue to make a vital contribution to our food security, while
also playing a pivotal role in creating the type of society that we
all want to see. As women, we need to define ourselves. We have to
really find a way of celebrating women.

Women are an integral part of society that is in a struggle trying
to define what kind of society it is truly going to be, as opposed
to what is committed on paper. The question is: what causes this
disjuncture between our commitments versus the reality of what is
actually happening?

The modern society has begun to recognise the individual identity of
women. She has her aspirations, abilities and qualities, and we

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agree that she must have the opportunities to develop her faculties
and to express them according to her own choice.

It is imperative to recognise that this can only be achieved if men
in our society accept women as equals and create a space where women
can grow and stand on an equal footing as their male counterparts.
This needs to happen on all sectors of society.

We need to have a deliberate programme of action that empowers the
girl child without taking away from the boy child. We need to
implement strategies that will focus on the development of women
from an early age with an understanding that being pro-girl child is
not being antiboy child.

While South Africa has made great strides towards gender equality
and the empowerment of women, women and children continue to suffer
discrimination in our communities, workplace, and in our homes.
Gender equality is not only a fundamental human right, but a
necessary foundation for a peaceful, prosperous and sustainable
society.

We have the best legal framework in South Africa. The rights of
women and children are embedded in our wonderful Constitution. Great
strides have been made in providing women and girls with equal
access to education, health care, decent work and representation in

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political decision-making processes much to the benefit of society
and humanity at large.

We envisage a world where all women and girls have equal
opportunities and rights by 2030 - That is why we are here today. I
am glad that today we are focusing on the rural women in our
society; because too often we focus on urban communities with all
the infrastructure and opportunities. Often, we build proper schools
in the urban areas and short-change the girl child in the rural
areas.

Realising the importance of rural women in agriculture is an
important aspect of gender relations. In many instances, some
consider the role of women in agriculture as a merely a help and not
an important economic contribution to agricultural production and
food security.

Rural women are a significant and sizable proportion of humankind.
They are farmers and agri-workers, horticulturalist and market
sellers, business women and community leaders. Rural women are the
backbone of sustainable livelihood and provide food security for
their families, country, and the world.

The work done by women in rural areas is crucial not only for the
progress of the rural households and local economists, but also for
national economy through rural women‘s participation in agricultural

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value chains. Yet, rural women suffer disproportionally from poverty
and face multiple forms of discrimination, violence, and insecurity.

Of great concern is that efforts under the millenium developments
goals have produced very little improvements in this situation of
rural women, and again it goes back to the implementation of the
policies that we have. Again, the National Development Plan, NDP,
also addresses the issues of the women and it goes back to the issue
of implementation of the policies that we have. This indicates just
how much work needs to be done to improve the lives of women in
rural areas and in the greater society.

Clearly, the empowerment of women will have a positive impact on
economic growth while also reducing hunger and poverty. Through
women‘s increased earning potential and labour force participation,
productivity and earnings, we might achieve the development and the
goal of eradicating extreme hunger and poverty.

The Western Cape government has initiatives to empower youth and
rural women in agriculture. The Western Cape Department of
Agriculture is committed in developing women in agricultural sector.
Its goal is to move more women from subsistence farming through
smallholder farming to the point where they are able to export their
goods and grow the economy even further.

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The Western Cape Minister of Agriculture, Alan Winde, has on many
occasions encouraged young people and he usually likes to say that,
we have to make agriculture sexier to attract younger women to bring
food generation. Young people interested in working in our dynamic
agrisector, need to apply to study at the Elsenburg Agricultural
Training Institute and can also get involved in the agricultural
markets.

Awareness campaigns in community newspapers across the province have
been run to boost the number of young applicants and women
applicants in particular. This indicates the commitment to
empowering rural women as well as growing the sector.

Through Project Khulisa, we have set ourselves the goal of adding up
to a further 100 000 jobs to the agri-processing sector and we hope
to see that a large portion of that will be women from the rural
communities. The agricultural sector is the backbone of provinces‘
rural economy and 45% of the country‘s exports come from the Western
Cape.

We are confident that growing the size of the agri-processing sector
stand to deliver a significant boost to rural employment. Some
commitments made by Minister Winde, include R9 billion to youth
related projects. We are growing an economy that delivers
opportunities for all.

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The Department of Economic Development and Tourism and Agriculture
will invest R63,2 million and R58,7 million into skills programmes
for our young people. As part of our plan to boost a number of
graduates available to the agriculture sector, we have set the
target of ensuring that 1 500 young people will benefit from our
higher education and training programmes over the next three years.

The Department of Agriculture, Forestry, and Fisheries, female
entrepreneur award programme is a joint effort between the national
Department of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries and the provincial
Departments of Agriculture and the private sector.

Recently, as part of its women‘s month campaign, the Western Cape
government hosted the female entrepreneur award in Paarl on Thursday
11. In it, they showcased the reward and rewarded the efforts and
contribution of women in job creation, economic growth and poverty
alleviation.

Lindelwa Mabuya and Caroline de Villiers are two Western Cape women
who went on to win top honours at the National Female Entrepreneur
Awards. Initiatives of this nature are essential to ensuring that
more rural women are encouraged to participate in agricultural
activities.

In conclusion, globally we have a landscape that has shifted in
which women equality has shifted from being a matter of debate to

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one of the implementation. I love our country and what I love more
about South African women is that they are proud of who they are.
They are nation-builders and they nurture the nation from their
blossom. They are grandmothers, mothers, aunts, sisters and above
all they are women.

Taking a lead from the DA-led Western Cape government, rural women
should be respected, applauded, and supported to gain entry into
agri-business and be empowered to grow that business to a next level
and not to compete with men, but to show that women can produce,
sustain, and alleviate poverty in the rural areas. With the
opportunities created by the government and support from other
stakeholders, women in rural areas are destined for greater things.
I thank you.

Ms L L ZWANE: Chairperson of the NCOP, hon members, Deputy Minister
Skwatsha, Deputy Minister of Basic Education, hon members, ...

... ngiyalibonga leli thuba engilitholayo lokuthi nami ngenze
umnikelo kule nkulumo-mpikiswano. Uma ngiqala ngiyivula le nkulumo
ngiyafisa ukuba ngidlule ekutheni kufuneka sikhumbule njengabantu
besifazane ukuthi sila esikhona nje kungenxa yegalelo lomama
abalwela lo mzabalazo, abahamba phambi kwethu. Ngabe asenzi
ubulungiswa uma singabakhumbuli omama oLilian Ngoyi, Charlotte
Maxeke, Albertina Sisulu, Adelaide Tambo, Helen Joseph, Dorothy
Ntwanambi owayesebenzela kule Ndlu ehloniphekile, Bertha Mkhize,

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Madikizela-Mandela, umama uMxenge kanye nabanye abaningi
ababanegalelo lokuthi sibe la esikhona namhlanje. Namhlanje thina
esikule ndawo sibizwa ngamaLungu ePhalamende ngoba yibona abahlahle
indlela yokuthi sibe la. Ngakho-ke kufanele ukuba sibabonge
ngegalelo labo. [Ihlombe.]

Kuleli thuba ngeke ngiyeke ukubonga umama wami, uNdlunkulu kaMayeni,
Mavundla, naye wazalwa ngo-Okthoba nguye owaba negalelo lokuthi
ngibe la, lala ngoxolo mama. Emhlanganweni omkhulu wamazwe
ahlanganyele njengo njengokusho kukaSekela Ngqongqoshe Skwatsha
ngenkathi elana, uthe umhlangano uthathe isinqumo esibizwa ngokuthi
isiNqumo 62/136 ngomhlaka-18 Disemba 2007 ukuthi umhlaba wonke
uhlanganyele ekutheni umhlaka-15 Okthoba ukhunjulwe njengosuku
oluthakasela imisebenzi emihle eyenziwa omama bethu ...
[Ubuwelewele.] (Translation of isiZulu paragraphs follows.)

[... thank you for this opportunity that I‘m afforded so that I can
also contribute to this debate. In opening this debate I wish to
start by saying that we must remember as women that we are where we
are, it is because of contribution of the women who fought for this
liberation, and who walked before us. We wouldn‘t be doing justice
if we don‘t remember Lilian Ngoyi, Charlotte Maxeke, Albertina
Sisulu, Adelaide Tambo, Helen Joseph, Dorothy Ntwanambi, who worked
in this august House, Bertha Mkhize, Ms Madikizela-Mandela, Ms
Mxenge and many more who made a contribution in order that we are
where we are today. Today, we, who are in this place, are now called

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Members of Parliament because they are the ones who paved the way
for us to get here. Therefore, it is befitting that we thank them
for their contribution. [Applause.]

At this given opportunity, I would like to thank my own mother,
Queen Mayeni, Mavundla who was also born in October who is the one
who made it possible for me to be here, rest in peace; mother. In
the General Assembly, as was stated by Deputy Minister Skwatsha when
he was here, he said that the General Assembly made a resolution
called Resolution 62/136 on 18 December 2007 that the whole world
must unite that 15 October should be declared as the day to
appreciate the good works done by our mothers ... [Interjections.]]

Mr F ESSACK: Chairperson, I apologise, I am struggling with the
translation, so I just wanted to bring that to your notice.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: Please attend
to it. Can I get an indication of whether it has been attended to?
Hon Zwane.

Ms L L ZWANE: Chairperson ...

... bengisathi umhlangano wathatha isinqumo sokuthi sibakhumbule
abantu besifazane, siliphakamise igalelo labo lokuthi benze lo
mhlaba esihlala kuwo ube umhlaba ongcono. Kuyenziwa-ke lokhu unyaka
nonyaka. Siyabonga ukuthi le Ndlu yakho ehloniphekile mama uModise,

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yenza okufanele ukuthi sikwenze namhlanje. Siyabonga futhi ukuthi
engqungqutheleni kaKhongolose yama-53 kwathathwa isinqumo sokuthi
nakuba kubonakala ukuthi kuningi okwenziwe ukuthuthukisa abantu
besifazane kwaze kwavulwa ngisho nomnyango obhekelene
nokuthuthukiswa kwabesifazane laphaya eHhovisi likaMongameli kodwa
ngaphezu kwalokho kwathiwa akwenziwe izinhlelo umnyango nomnyango
kahulumeni ubenezinhlelo okuyizona eziqikelela ukuthi abesifazane
bayathuthukiswa. Siyambonga futhi uhulumeni oholwa nguKhongolose
ngokuthi ama-90% ezindawo la eNingizimu Afrika sezinogesi. Abantu
besifazane abasayi ehlathini ezindaweni eziningi ukuyotheza
izinkuni. (Translation of isiZulu paragraph follows.)

[... I was saying that the General Assembly took a resolution that
we must remember women, and that we must recognise their
contribution that they made this place we live in to be a better
place. This takes place every year. We are grateful that your august
House, hon Modise, is doing what we are supposed to do. We are
grateful again that in the ANC‘s 53rd conference, a resolution was
taken that, although it is evident that there is a lot that was done
to empower women, to an extent that a department for women in the
presidency was established, but over and above that it was resolved
that each and every government department should have programmes
that ensure that the women are empowered. We also thank the ANC-led
government that 90% of places in South Africa have electricity.
Women in most places no longer go to forests to fetch firewood.]

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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: Hon Zwane, may
I ask you and I know that it is very unfair. I ask you to continue
in English because we have a problem with interpreting.

Ms L L ZWANE: Okay. Thank you Chairperson.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: I am very
sorry to do this. Please continue.

Ms L L ZWANE: The ANC-led government has made it sure that
electricity is provided in a number of places to the extent that as
we speak, 90% coverage has been achieved. Ugu District Municipality
in particular has almost achieved 100% coverage in areas like
KwaFodo, eMathuleni, KwaHlongo, KwaMthimude, KwaNzimakwe, kwaXolo,
KwaMachi, KwaNdalane, KwaMavunda ensimbini ... [Interjections.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: Hon Khawula,
why are you standing up?

Mr M KHAWULA: Chairperson, it is just a point of order.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: If it is not a
point of order then why are you standing up?

Mr M KHAWULA: I am standing because it is a point of order.

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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: Okay, let us
hear the point of order, sir.

Mr M KHAWULA: My sister, the hon mkhaya wami [home girl] is
misleading the House. I stay in KwaHlongwa and there is no 100%
coverage of electricity in KwaHlongwa. I am a resident there and she
knows it that is why she is saying it. She is provoking me, I stay
in KwaHlongwa and people do not have electricity there.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: Hon Zwane, you
are in debate and you are taking it to consideration that you have
been challenged on that particular issue. Please continue.
Ms L L ZWANE: Chairperson, uGabhisa is a teacher and he must
understand the difference between almost and 100%. I did not say
100%, I said almost 100%. In areas of Kwandalane, kwaMavundla,
eNsimbini, oshabeni ... [Interjections.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: Hon Zwane you
have made umkhaya wakho [your home boy] to be very excited.
[Laughter.] Hon Khawula on another point of order, please take your
seat.

Mr M KHAWULA: Hon Chairperson, another point of order, maybe this is
very deliberate but I am not a teacher, I am a Member of Parliament.
[Laughter.]

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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: Hon Zwane,
maybe he was a teacher in his previous life but now he is an hon
member of the House. Please continue.

Ms L L ZWANE: I do not understand that Gabhisa would be ashamed of
his certificates.

Uhulumeni kaKhongolose uphinde futhi wenza ukuthi kube khona
imitholampilo. [The ANC-led government has also ensured that there
are clinics.]

We have clinics. In KZN alone I remember that when the MEC was
debating here he did say that they were going to roll-out 111
clinics in this financial year. That means that women now do not
travel long distances in order to give birth at a clinic or that one
hospital in an area that they have to go to. Now they can easily
reach clinics and get medication and assistance and be able to
deliver their babies timeously.

On the issue of roads, roads have been improved which makes it easy
for women to reach workplaces, economic hubs and be able to reach
areas that they need to reach timeously without delays and
comfortably so. The Department of Trade and Industry also has made
sure that they make arrangements whereby they promote women
entrepreneurs. They provided funds, grants, incentives, loans and
mentorship programmes and they are inviting women. This is the

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information that we need to cascade because the reason why in many
instance women are not developing is that they do not have
information.

The Department of Trade and Industry is inviting women that are keen
on starting small businesses to come forward and put their
applications but they need them to have experience and knowledge in
those fields and also have markets that are secured so that they can
have places where they can deliver their produce. They are also
inviting applications for women that want to embark on agricultural
projects because we know that women are very industrious and they
want to ensure that there is food security for their families and to
also sell.

There is a fund that is called Isivande Women‘s Fund which is
assisting in terms of ensuring that women are able to access what
they need to access. The new Sustainable Development Goals have
gender equality and women‘s empowerment at their core and include
the target to double agricultural productivity and incomes of smallscale food producers, in particular women. Rural women are critical
to the success of almost all of these 17 Sustainable Development
Goals. Rural women make up a quarter of the total world population
and they constitute 43% of the agricultural labour force. They
produce, process and prepare much of the food available. Therefore,
they deserve to be supported financially and supported through the
mentorship programmes.

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When it comes to the issue of co-operatives, we really do encourage
women to embark on co-operatives. To cite just a couple examples,
when you drive to the North Coast in KZN you would find that along
the way there are big co-operatives of women that are involved in
crafts and co-operatives of women involved in selling vegetables and
fruits. Those co-operatives are very effective because if they work
together as co-operatives it becomes easy for them to access funding
from the banks if they have a market.

We have recently been to Limpopo in Thohoyandou. There is a big
market there of women and you could actually see that they are
trained in how they put their produce and how they market it. We
bought few things in order to support them and we got lots of fruits
at a very minimal amount. We appreciate the fact that the ruling
party has made space also for women not only in business but in
decision-making bodies. For instance, in the councils we are just
from a period where councils were elected and I want to extend our
happiness and gratitude as women that a number of those, even though
we have not yet really reach 50% representation but we are pleased
to note that even at the level of office bearers in municipalities
there is an increasing number of women that are taking positions of
leadership because we have the brains to lead the country.

We as Members of this Parliament have passed a number of pieces of
legislation that are seeking to protect women against all forms of
discrimination or abuse. That abuse is largely found in rural areas

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because in those areas women do not as yet know much about their
rights and it is our duty as Members of Parliament to ensure that we
cascade this information to them and explain what these pieces of
legislation are. We explain how they seek to protect them against
abuse as well as the abuse of their own children.

There is a section of the preamble of the National Development Plan
where it says that we are traders, women are traders as well; we are
initiators, women are initiators; we are workers; we are creating
companies, we are indeed creating companies and setting up stalls to
develop as small businesses; we are studious; we are cerebral; we
are capable and intelligent as women and we know exactly what we
want whether we are educated or not. We have an element of being
intelligent that is God-given. We can guide processes
notwithstanding depravation of information and drawing from our own
experience. Therefore, I am inviting women in this House to
celebrate with rural women out there. Viva rural women viva!
[Applause.]

Hon MEMBERS: Viva!

Dr Y C VAWDA: Hon Chairperson, allow me once more to acknowledge the
presence of our supreme forces irrespective of whatever our
perceptions might be. And once again I greet all of you with AsSalaam-Alaikum. In September of 2015 the United Nations recommitted

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itself and all nations of the world to a new future based on
principles, on the development of humanity in her entirety.

The new sustainable development goals constituting Agenda 2030
commits all signatories to end poverty and hunger everywhere; to
combat inequalities within and amongst countries; to build peaceful,
just and inclusive societies; to protect human rights and promote
gender equality; the empowerment of women and girls; and to ensure
the lasting protection of the planet and its natural resources.

The new vision is guided by the purposes and principles of the
Charter of the United Nations, including full respect for
international law. It is grounded in the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights, international human rights treaties, the Millennium
Declaration and the 2005 World Summit Outcome Document. It is
informed by other instruments such as the Declaration on the Right
to Development.

These are laudable commitments and require commitment from our own
country to improve the lot of our citizens, particularly rural
citizens and rural women more specifically. At this stage South
Africa is poorly placed to effectively realise the new Sustainable
Development Goals. South African women are still as marginalised
today as they have ever been, thus 22 years into the new South
Africa, 22 years of nongovernance from the ANC.

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Women who are often the primary care givers in the family face
challenges which include inadequate access to the most basic of
rights such as shelter, protection, water, food and health care.
This forces many rural women in poverty to: Firstly, remain in
abusive relationships so as to ensure that they, and often their
children, have a home. [Interjections.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: Hon Vawda,
please take your seat. Hon Wana, is that a point of order?

Ms T WANA: Chairperson, I would like to ask whether the speaker man
can take a question? [Laughter.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: The hon member
is a member and I don‘t think we must qualify his gender. Hon Vawda,
are you prepared to take a question?

Dr Y C VAWDA: We might be boring the listeners, so let us leave it
for another time, Ma‘m.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: No, Ma‘m, he
is not.

Dr Y C VAWDA: Secondly, women are forced into relationships which
contract HIV and Aids, not only because they do not have access to
condoms but some of them do not even know about this deadly virus,

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and others do not have the right to ask their partners to use
protection; thirdly, often expose themselves to the risks that go
with cooking from a hazardous power source, be it an illegal
electricity connection or the substances which are caused by more
primitive sources of energy;

Fourthly, often expose themselves to the dangers of collecting wood
and fetching water from places far from their homes; fifthly, die
whilst in the throes of child birth due to a lack of adequate health
care; sixthly, lose their hearts, as they watch their children die
of preventable diseases and also due to a lack of adequate health
care; and lastly, remain unable to access services available to them
such as social grants, protection orders and even policing services,
simply because they do not know that such services are available to
them.

Twenty-two years into the new South Africa; twenty-two years of
nongovernance from the ANC.

This is a lived reality of rural women in this country, who remain
landless, jobless and very often homeless. They are more limited by
outdate cultural practices requiring of them not to own property
unless married to a man, preventing them from doing certain jobs,
preventing girl children from progressing beyond certain levels of
education.

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We as a country must tackle these problems. We must stop paying lip
service to the development of rural areas and we must be resolute in
stopping abuse of women by the state, by traditional leaders and by
society in general.

The EFF believes that the liberation of women in general, not just
rural women, lies at the centre of our quest for true, long lasting
freedom.

I have heard earlier, acolytes being poured upon women in the recent
history of the last 100 or 200 years. The truth is, women have
contributed in the history of mankind from time immemorial. After
all, when God placed Adam on the face of the earth it was Eve who
accompanied him. Let us not forget that it was Hagar and Sarah who
backed up, who were the support to Abraham, and we all know what
contribution he made to the conscientious history of mankind.

What about us here? The wife of Pharaoh who nurtured Moses when he
came floating in the basket down the River Nile. And who can forget
mother Mary who gave us the blessed birth of Jesus, revered by over
half of this planet‘s population. This debate surely requires no
further argument. I salute the women. Thank you, Ma‘m.

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): Chairperson of the NCOP, I would like to
acknowledge the Deputy Minister, Members of the NCOP, the permanent
delegates, and colleagues from the provinces. The Deputy Minister

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has set the scene and raised a lot of important and relevant issues
in the debate, followed by other members, especially from the ANC.
The message has been consistent, clear and concise about our
successes and the good work we have done since 1994.

There is a member, the hon Engelbrecht, I think, who gave us what I
will call ―useful‖ statistics. Statistics are very important, hon
Engelbrecht, but I think sometimes it‘s important that these
statistics must be used with content and in context. The hon member
states the problems in the different parts of our country and the
areas she has mentioned. However, the hon member, I think,
deliberately omitted to mention that it‘s not by accident that those
same areas, the Eastern Cape and KwaZulu-Natal – the rural areas of
our country – still find themselves in the situation that they are
in. It‘s not by sheer accident of history. It was deliberate,
because the racist, white, apartheid regime deliberately made sure
that our people are condemned to poverty. [Interjections.]

The hon member deliberately omits this important fact because she
doesn‘t want to accept that these problems span over more than three
decades. These are problems that started in 1652. These are problems
that did not start in 1994. These are problems that were not created
by the ANC, but the opposition is always desperate to tell lies
about the ANC and create an impression of something that we are not.
That‘s one of the issues I want to deal with here.

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We, as the ANC, are working very hard, hon Engelbrecht. Firstly, I
hope you will acknowledge that we don‘t live in conditions of our
own making. That is why change is constant. We must always work very
hard to ensure that we change the conditions of our people. Like I
have said, we don‘t operate in conditions of our own making.

When we face whatever challenges that we face, we must be able not
to just highlight the problem. That, I think, is the distinction
between the DA and the ANC, the distinction between the IFP ... in
fact, you are all in coalition, so you are one thing. [Laughter.]
The difference between you and us is that we are not demagogues. We
are revolutionaries. We want to ensure that we change the lives of
our people for the better.

Mr J W W JULIUS: Chairperson, I would like to know if the hon MEC
would take a question if he feels so strongly about these matters.

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): You don‘t have to give me conditions. I will
take your question. Let me finish with my points and finish my time.
Then I will take your question. Let me finish with my points. I
don‘t have a problem with taking your question.

Mr C HATTINGH: Chairperson, I don‘t know whether the member is
acquainted with the Rules here, but he should not address a member
directly. He should address you. [Interjections.]

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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Thank you, sir. Hon MEC, address him
through me. Please continue.

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): Alright, I will, Chair. Member Khawula, I
can‘t be told by you to listen. You must behave. [Interjections.] I
am not your child. [Interjections.] You must behave.

Mr C HATTINGH: Hon Chair ...

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon members, please take your seats.
Hon Maile, address the House through the Chair.

Mr C HATTINGH: Chairperson, on a point of order ...

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: What is the point of order, hon
Hattingh?

Mr C HATTINGH: Hon ... hon ... hon Chair ... [Interjections.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order! Order! I need to hear the member
on the floor. Hon Hattingh?

Mr C HATTINGH: Chair, I think visiting members should actually get a
Rule Book. He should not be pointing fingers at me. [Interjections.]

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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Maile, please don‘t point your
finger at the hon Hattingh.

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): No, I won‘t, because I can see he is a
crybaby.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Please take your seat. Please take your
seat. Hon Smit? [Interjections.] Hon Smit? Order, members!
[Interjections.] Order!

Mr L MAILE: I don‘t listen to racists!

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order! Hon Smit?

Mr C F B SMIT: Hon Chairperson, could you please remind the hon
member, for the second time in a row, that he is not supposed to
address the members directly? [Interjections.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Thank you very much, hon Smit.
[Laughter.] The hon member has heard because I have said it. Please
take your seat, sir. Please take your seat, ma‘am. Please take your
seat. Hon Khawula?

Mr M KHAWULA: Hon Chairperson, on a point of privilege ...

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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: No. I do not allow points of privilege.
The hon member knows that very well.

Mr M KHAWULA: On a point of order, Chairperson: When the hon MEC is
instructing whoever it is on the left to behave, he says ―Khawula‖.
Now, to the person who is listening, it sounds as if there is a
Khawula who is misbehaving, but then, he cuts short what he was
going to say and now that person on the left is Khawula. Can you
correct this? [Laughter.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Maile, we only have one hon member
in this House who is called Khawula, and it is that member.
[Laughter.] Hon Mpambo-Sibhukwana?

Ms T G MPAMBO-SIBHUKWANA: Chairperson, may I, through you, please
ask the hon member at the podium to withdraw his comment to the hon
Hattingh, ―Stop being racist. He‘s a racist‖? [Interjections.] He
said so. He said so. Can you ask him to withdraw, please, hon Chair?
[Interjections.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order, members! Order! Hon Maile, did
you say to the hon Hattingh that he is a racist?

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): I don‘t remember because I think he was busy
pointing at me. [Interjections.]

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HON MEMBERS: You did say it! Answer the question!

An HON MEMBER: You‘re a liar!

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order! Hon Maile, did you say the hon
Hattingh was a racist?

Mr L MAILE: I said he behaves like a racist, not that he is a racist
... [Interjections] ... and those are two different things.
[Interjections.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon members, I will look at the Hansard
and I will rule. Please continue, MEC. Hon Julius, you are repeating
yourself. What is the new point of order? [Interjections.]

Mr L MAILE: This one ... [Interjections.] ... Nx!

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Maile, please take your seat.
[Interjections.] Hon ... wena. You have the floor, sir.

Mr J W W JULIUS: Chairperson, I think you also need to include in
that the hon Makue just made a comment that the hon member at the
podium is speaking the truth. He is a racist. He has just made that
comment. I heard it and that is why I am standing up.

An HON MEMBER: I am sitting here and I didn‘t hear it.

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Mr J W W JULIUS: Well, you can ask him.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon members ...

Mr J W W JULIUS: Whether he is honest or not, I don‘t know.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon members ... Alright. Hon Makue, did
you say that he is, in fact, a racist?

Mr E MAKUE: I said he behaves like one, Chairperson – and he does
behave like one.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon members, I have undertaken to go
into the Hansard to deal with the matter which the hon MpamboSibhukwana referred to, regarding the hon Hattingh.

Hon Julius, you raised a point and now you are making a noise. I am
addressing you. You don‘t have to look at that hon member. On the
point that you are raising, I want to see the two of you in my
office to clear it up. Hon Maile, please continue.

Mr C HATTINGH: Hon Chairperson, the hon member said that I am
behaving like a racist. Now, is that acceptable in this House?

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: The hon member did not say you are a
racist. He says you are behaving like a racist.

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Mr C HATTINGH: Hon ...

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: No, no, no, hon Hattingh. Take your
seat. I am addressing you. Hon members ... Order, Deputy Minister!
You see, hon Hattingh, hon members, please desist from throwing
stones if you can‘t take them. In debates, you will say things that
are permissible which border on maliciousness, on insults, on
denting the integrity of one another. We are always cautioning you
to watch your language.

The reason, hon Hattingh, I said I would see the two members in my
office is precisely because as they put the matter, the matter, in
terms of our Rules, does not make it unparliamentary. Therefore, I
cannot rule. I have cautioned this House over and over, and that is,
in fact, what I intend to do about those two members. Can we now
please continue? Hon Maile?

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): Thank you very much, Chairperson. Member
Khawula, I was actually coming to you when I got distracted. Today,
I think you have confirmed the view that I have always held.

The IFP is just a politically bankrupt organisation, old-fashioned,
moribund, without ideas. Unlike the DA, which is neoliberal, clearly
representing the interests of white monopoly capital, you represent
nothing. [Interjections.] That is why you want to claim today that,
if the people of KwaZulu-Natal were to give you power, you would do

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something better – and you know it‘s not possible, because you were
given an opportunity to run that province ...

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Don‘t drown out the speaker!

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): ... and the province was run dismally during
the IFP days until we, the ANC, took over. I think you have heard
the facts from the MEC for education and the hon member there, who
was speaking on behalf of the ANC.

You also go further to raise the issue of cadre deployment. This
same issue of cadre deployment ... I can tell you now, your
coalition partners who are now governing Johannesburg and Tshwane
have lined up their cadres to take over as municipal managers. I
wonder if you are going to vote with them because you seem to be
anti cadre deployment. In fact, let me tell you, if, as the ANC, we
were implementing cadre deployment, we wouldn‘t have some of these
problems we are having because a cadre ...

Ms B ENGELBRECHT: Madam Chair, I am standing on a point of
relevance: We are debating rural women and it‘s becoming a political
dialogue which absolutely stinks! [Interjections.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Thank you, ma‘am. It is a debate and
I‘m allowing it to continue. Please take your seat. [Interjections.]
Yes. Hon members, order! [Interjections.] Order, members! Can you

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please sit down, hon Khawula? [Interjections.] Hon members, order!
Order! Order! It is a point during a debate.

Moenie klippe gooi as jy nie kan duik nie! [Applous.]
[Tussenwerpsels.] [Do not throw stones if you cannot duck!
[Applause.] [Interjections.]]

Please, hon members. You do not want us to police every debate
because in every debate, we will allow - and we have allowed –
people to zigzag out of the main thrust of the debate. I am not
going to start today to put you into straitjackets and tell you only
to speak about women in the rural areas, because in the history of
this House since 2014, we have not done so. Please continue, hon
Maile.

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): Thank you, Chairperson. Hon Khawula, a cadre
is somebody who is armed with political theory, who has integrity
and skills, and who is educated and qualified. That is why the ANC
must do it, because is it not systematically dealing with this issue
of cadre deployment - and we must do it unapologetically, because we
are governing. We have been given a responsibility. [Applause.]

By the way, Hlaudi is not our cadre. You must stop saying he is our
cadre, because he is not a member of the ANC. [Interjections.]

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Mr C F B SMIT: Hon Chairperson, on a point of order: The hon MEC
keeps on doing the same thing over and over ...

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: What is it?

Mr C F B SMIT: ... pointing a finger directly at members. That is a
threat, alright? That‘s a threat. That is the first point.
[Interjections.] The second point is that he is also addressing the
point ... [Interjections.] ... Yes, the ... I am showing what he is
doing!

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order, members! Address me.
[Interjections.] You said the second point ... Order, members! I
cannot hear that member.

Mr C F B SMIT: The second point of order is: He is addressing the
member directly, once again.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Alright. May I make my ruling?
[Interjections.] Hon members, order! Hon Mohapi, stop.

Hon members, I did watch the MEC. Perhaps his gesticulation is all
over the place. However, hon Maile, please control the fact that
when you gesticulate with your fingers, you point at hon members.
Secondly, I do take the point, which I have made with the hon MEC,

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to address the House through the Chairperson. Hon Engelbrecht, what
is your point of order?

Ms B ENGELBRECHT: Madam Chair, I rise on this point of order: The
MEC is misleading this House. [Interjections.] He says that they are
governing, and they are not governing in Johannesburg.
[Interjections.] So, he is misleading the House.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Thank you, ma‘am. That is not a point
of order, at all, hon member. [Interjections.] Take your seat,
ma‘am. That is not a point of order, at all. Please continue.

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): Chair, I am not crazy. I said ...
[Interjections.] ... because you are ...

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Maile, just continue with the
debate.

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): I am sorry, Chair. [Laughter.] I said, in
Johannesburg, where the DA is in a coalition with the rest of all
the other parties, they have lined up people to take over as
municipal managers and I wonder if the coalition partners will vote
with them because they are anti cadre deployment. So, people must
listen.

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Another issue I want to raise is this notion that the ANC is
corrupt. It‘s false and misleading because it‘s not true. As the ANC
– and I‘m sure some of you who have the privilege of reading our
documents will know – we have deliberately acted against corruption
in many instances without any fear or favour. [Interjections.] So,
to try and ...

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order!

Mr L MAILE: I also want to deal with the issue of the EFF because
the EFF – where is the hon member?

THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order, hon Maile. There is another
member on the floor. Please take your seat. Hon Smit?

Mr C F B SMIT: Hon Chairperson, I would like to know if the hon MEC,
who behaves like an EFF member, would take a question.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Smit, is the question you are
putting whether or not the hon MEC will take a question? Do I read
you correctly?

Mr C F B SMIT: Yes.

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): I don‘t take crazy questions, so ...

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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Maile, don‘t go where you are being
led. Hon Smit, the hon MEC will not take a question. Please
continue.

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): The EFF is a confused, rude, chaotic
organisation of demagogues who lie to our people for votes.
[Interjections.]

Mr M M CHABALALA: Chairperson, on a point of order: Perhaps the hon
Maile is ill today. [Interjections.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order, members! I can‘t hear the
member.

Mr M M CHABALALA: Perhaps the MEC is confused about the EFF.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Is that a point of order?

Mr M M CHABALALA: Ntlha ya tokiso ke hore a itshware hantle, a se ke
a etsa dintho tseo a ntseng a di etsa. [The point of order is that
he should behave appropriately, and he must stop doing what he is
doing.]

THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Thank you, sir. That‘s not a point of
order. [Interjections.] That is not a point of order. Hon Maile?

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Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): Le ka se ntire selo. Ga go na selo se le ka se
dirang. [There is nothing you can do to me. Nothing whatsoever.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Maile, address this House through
me!

Mr L MAILE (Gauteng): Alright, Chairperson. That is why the hon
member who was speaking on behalf of the EFF earlier on has
demonstrated these ideological inconsistencies I am talking about in
the EFF. He also demonstrated the dishonesty of the EFF because he
has created the impression that nothing has happened since 1994 and
the lives of our women have not changed, at all. We, as the ANC, are
the first to admit where the problems are. We, as the ANC, are the
first to say there is still more that needs to be done.

I am sure the hon member knows very well that we have introduced a
lot of laws and policies to empower our women. We are the only party
in South Africa that has a 50/50 policy, and we are implementing it
through our list process. [Applause.] In our government departments,
we are implementing that policy. [Time expired.] [Applause.]

Ms T G MPAMBO-SIBHUKWANA: Hon Chairperson, it is no secret that the
injustice of the past has left the rural areas in South Africa in a
dire state. It is no secret that the rural economy of South Africa‘s
history of racial dispossession has left the country with skewed
patterns of ownership, which exclude the majority of South Africans

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from the land assets and inclusion in rural economies. The DA aims
to address these by achieving and redressing issues in rural
communities that promote economic inclusion to alleviate poverty and
support growth and prosperity in the agricultural sector - The
agricultural sector in South Africa‘s second largest industry that
contributes positively to the GDP.

Historically, black women have been the most oppressed individuals.
The aim of rectifying the injustices of the past include women from
rural areas. Although this may not be easy to do, it is possible.
One of the DA‘s objectives is to achieve open society for all. The
DA‘s economic policies and social policies are primarily aimed at
creating the circumstances for growth and job creation. It is
imperative to understand that women in rural South Africa have faced
many hardships throughout their lives. Women have had to be the
breadwinners of many households. This is a huge responsibility and
is often a burden as they have had limited access.

We aim to deal specifically with unemployability issues by looking
at the land reform policy which implicitly aims to move away from
meeting targets, specifically meeting individual needs. The DA needs
land reform policy to focus on a number of core principles. Land
reform is a moral and political imperative which aims to represent
an opportunity to invigorate rural communities by giving rural
dwellers greater access to productive assets.

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The land reform strategy must be informed, not by the need to
achieve quantity land targets, but by the objectives to: Firstly,
support a thriving commercial agricultural sector that aims to
protect South Africa‘s food security; Secondly, to promote smallscale farmers which can be economically viable; and finally, to
promote and alleviate poverty and support household food security
through appropriate assistance for subsistence agriculture.

The success of this land reform policy would be determined in terms
of the livelihoods created to the supported and economic value
created through the business initiative that may result through this
policy framework. This, however, cannot be simply done by the
various government department stakeholders. It may be wise to get
into collaboration with private sector to assist rural women in
developing the business skills that can ensure not only
sustainability but a form of profitability for our economy.

There is a popular saying that says, you strike a women, you strike
a rock. Every woman in South Africa, including rural women need to
be well equipped, not only to make a make a positive effect in their
households, but to make a positive effect in their communities and
in turn to the greater economy.

Hon Maile comes here to tell lies and claim victories. I just want
to put it straight on record that it is this ... [Interjections.]

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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Mpambo-Sibhukwana, please take your
seat! Please take your seat, mom! [Interjections.] Yes, sir.

Mr L MAILE: For the member to say that I am telling lies when I am
not a liar.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Mpambo-Sibhukwana, the hon member,
may be a member of the Gauteng legislature, but she is covered by
every Rule of this House. Please withdraw, calling a member a liar

Ms T G MPAMBO-SIBHUKWANA: I withdraw, Chairperson.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Thank you, mom. Please continue.

Ms T G MPAMBO-SIBHUKWANA: It is this ignorance that needs to be
eroded from his utterances. This is the ignorance that made the ANC
to lose - They would rather beware of 2019. We are coming with all
our values of freedom, fairness and opportunities to South Africans.
Thank you Chairperson.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order! The hon Dlamini! Hon MpamboSibhukwana, are you threatening my members with violence? Hon
Labuschagne!

Ms C LABUSCHAGNE: On a point of order!

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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: On a point of order, mom! Hon Dlamini,
sit down please!

Ms C LABUSCHAGNE: Just want to check, Chair, are we all your members
or only certain people are your members?

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: All of you are my members. All members
of this House, I suppose I am also your member. [Interjections.]
Yes, I was speaking to my member threatening my other members.

Ms C LABUSCHAGNE: Chairperson, I just want to check whether we are
all your members or whether only certain people are your members?
[Laughter.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: All of you are my members. All members
of this House ... I suppose I am also your member. I was speaking to
one of my members who threatened my other members. Hon Dlamini?

Ms L C DLAMINI: Hon Chairperson, let me take this opportunity to
engage with issues affecting rural woman — an integral part of our
society. Biased development and empowerment of rural women is very
important considering our history. I really appreciate this
opportunity.

I heard members talking about the changes in rural women, misleading
the public as if they do not know where we come from.

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Bakhuluma shangatsi asati kutsi sibuya kuphi. Uma ngingabakhumbuta
nje kancane kutsi nasikhuluma ngalabasikati basemaphandleni sisho
labanye betfu. Tsine singulabanye babo laba labaphuma emaphandleni.
Ngitsi kanye lesikwati kukhuluma indzaba yasemaphandleni.

Umhlonishwa Engelbrecght usitjela ngetibalo letikhomba kutsi bantfu
basemaphandleni bahlupheka kangakanani. Intfo lokhohlwa kuyisho
mhlonishwa, kusitjela kutsi labantfu basemaphandleni labahluphekako
babuya kuphi. (Translation of Siswati paragraph follows.)

[They speak as if we do not know where we come from.

If I may

remind them a little bit that when we speak of rural women we are
referring to some of our own. We are some of them those who come
from the rural. We are the ones who are able to speak about rural
issues. Hon Engelbrecght is telling us about statics that show how
rural people suffer. You have forgotten to tell us Hon Minister
where do those rural suffering people come from.]

Because where I come from ... in rural areas, before 1994 ...

... lesimo lesesikuso manje lesentiwa yinhlangano yeNational Party
ne-DA,

ngiyacolisa;

babuya

khona.

lulwimi.]

ngifuna

Lesimo

Lapho

kutsi

lesesikuso

sibuya

khona

iDemocratic
manje

tsine,

Party;

sentiwa

kodvwa

ngibo.

kungakatsatsi

–ke

[Kuhlaba
inhlangano

yaKhongolose, bomake bebatitfuma esigangeni. Nangabe bewute indlu
yangasese

bewutitfuma

esigangeni.

Bebahamba

bayewutfota

tinkhuni,

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bakha

nemanti

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emifuleni,

bahlala

etindlini

teludzaka

futsi

bangakavumeleki kutsi babe netindlu tabo letitsi bona. Ngetulu kwako
konkhe loko, bebasebenta emapulazini mahhala, bangakhokhelwa lutfo.
Manje–ke, nakatsi yena kute luntjintjo usho kuwaphi emaphandle? Usho
baphi bomake? Ngobe njengalapho ngibuya khona siyati kutsi nyalo
sekunemanti
sahulumende;

laphuma

etimpompini;

sebatfola

sekunemitfolampilo.

imali

Bomake

kunagezi;

kunetidlu

yesibonelelo
labatetfwele

tesibonelelo

setenhlalakahle;
nebantfwana

baya

emitfolampilo mahhala, ababhadali. Usho waphi emaphandle? Angikakuva
kahle. Ukhuluma ngabaphi bomake? [Tandla.] (Translation of Siswati
paragraph follows.)

[... this situation we find ourselves in was created by the National
party and the DA; excuse me, I wanted to say the Democratic Party;
but they are from them anyway. They are the ones who created this
situation we find ourselves in. [Interjections.]From where we come
from, before the ANC took over, women were releaving themselves in
the open field. If you did not have a toilet, you would relieve
yourself in the open field. They used to go and collect fire wood,
drawing water from rivers, staying in mud houses and were not
allowed to own properties. On top of that, they were working on
farms without being paid. So, if she says there is no change, in
which rural areas is she referring to? Which women is she speaking
about? As we speak in areas where we come from there are water taps;
electricity; RDP houses; they now receive social grants and there
are also clinics. Expectant mothers and children now go to clinic

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and they do not pay. Which rural areas are you referring to? I do
not understand you. Which women are you talking about?] [Applause.]

Hon Engelbrecght, I thought you would go further and say how many of
those women to whom you refer are from farms of which the farm
owners are members of the DA. You should start there, in your
membership, and preach to them, because those areas are privately
owned land. Do you expect the government to go and implement there
...

...

lapha

basivalela

khona

emahheke

bangasivumeli

kutsi

singene

ngekhatsi? [... in those areas where they lock up gates for us and
they do not allow us to get in?]

Just recently, when we went for the government elections they were
not allowing them to go and vote. You say they are stuck there and
do not have freedom. Talk to your DA members. Grand standing becomes
a problem sometimes. Through you Chair, I apologise for speaking
directly to the member.

Mhlonishwa

Khawula,

asikantjintji
lanikhona

emaphandleni.

khona

kusemaphandleni.
lawo

nangabe

bengicabanga

nine
Bangakhi

utsi

wena

kutsi

utawusho

Ngiyacabanga

kutsi

niyiNkatha,

kunabomasipala;

bomake

labahluphekako

nitakwenta

ncono

le

kutsi

kwaZulu-Natal

kulawo
nine

simo

futsi

maphandle
niyiNkatha

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naKhongolose?

(Translation

of

Siswati

paragraph

follows.)

[Hon Khawula, I thought you would say the situation has not yet
changed in rural areas. I think in kwaZulu Natal where you are as
the Inkatha, there are municipalities; and it is in rural areas. How
many poor women are there in those rural areas if you say you as the
Inkatha you will do better when you compare with the ANC?]

Can you give us figures of rural women who have been upgraded or
improved by the IFP?

During the apartheid regime which was led by the National Party and
their strategic partner, the Democratic Party now combined and
called the DA, 100% of women had no services in rural areas. But
now, you come here and say the ANC has not done anything. Obviously,
a lot has been done by the ANC, but it will not be the same because
in urban areas, there was little bit ... [Interjections.]

Ms C LABUSCHAGNE: Chairperson, I rise on a point of order. I don‘t
see any member of the National Party in this House. So, the hon
member is talking about the National Party and she then refers to
they. Through you Chair, can she give us clarity on what she means,
thank you.

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Ms L C DLAMINI: I did say that I mean the Nationalist Party and
their strategic partner which pretended as if they were the
opposition yet they were working together who then combined to form
the DA alliance. That is what I have said.

Ms C LABUSCHAGNE: Hon Chair, I am rising on a point of order. The
information hon Dlamini has is a little bit selective because there
are members of the National Party who are now members of the ANC.
So, are they also partners of the ANC? Thank you.

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Dlamini, for progress sake what the
hon Labuschagne is saying is true. The National Party members have
joined all of the different parties. For progress sake can we please
step off that matter? It is a matter of historical fact. Let us
please move on. [Interjections.] Order, hon members.

Ms L C DLAMINI: Asiyibonge–ke kakhulu inhlangano yabomake
bakaKhongolose ... [Let us greatly give thanks to the ANC‘s Women‘s
League ...]

... the ANC Women‘s League, for the strides it has made to fight for
rural women. That is the only party that I know of that fought for
rural women together with the mother body; the ANC. What does that
mean? It means that in 1994, the society that was inherited by the
democratic government the ANC was deeply divided, with profound
disparities in socioeconomic wellbeing across racial groups. Within

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this context, certain groups of society, especially rural women and
girls, were further excluded and marginalised beyond race.
Discrimination, based on gender led to women becoming vulnerable to
chronic stressors such as unemployment, poor health and educational
status with generally poor standards of living. The ANC‘s focus on
women‘s empowerment, and on rural women through the realisation of
civil, political, economic and social rights was justified within
the context of high levels of inequalities impacting on women, which
was inherited by the new democratic government. We did not find the
playing field level.

Sitfole bangalingani. Bentiwe ngemabomu, ngulabo lengikhulume ngabo
ekucaleni. [We found them not equal. They were purposefully done by
those I spoke to initially.]

The drivers of change were thus policy reforms and building the
institutional machinery. These reforms removed all forms of
institutional discriminatory laws, in the quest for a free
nonracial, nonsexist, peaceful and democratic South Africa, in
accordance with the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa. We
acknowledge as the ANC that there is still a lot to be done, but it
is also important to note that there is a lot of progress that has
been made.

In terms of education, the ANC-led government has introduced the nofee schools in basic education which contributes to the development

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of women. Nutrition schemes in schools, free learner support
materials, compulsory education and pre-schooling relieves a lot of
stress for women. In terms of higher education the National Student
Financial Aid Scheme, Nsfas, has allowed a number of rural women to
go to school and empower themselves by attaining qualifications,
something which was not possible before.

If I can make one example, before 1994 ...

...

bomake

batibonele,
kubelekisa.
kwakubangela

basemaphandleni
babelekiswe
Bantfwana
kutsi

labatetfwele

ngulabanye

labatelwe

kufe

bomake

bekudzingeka

bomake

bebangahlolwa
labanyentana

kutsi

labangakakufundzeli
ngumuntfu.
kanye

Loko

netinswane

kungatiwa nekutsi babulawe yini. (Translation of Siswati paragraph
follows.)

[... Expectant women from the rural areas were expected to take care
of themselves, they were being helped to give birth by other women
who were not qualified for midwifery. Newly born babies were not
medically examined. That led to an increased mothers and infants
mortality rate and the cause was never known.]

Of the 4,3 million houses that have been built so far, more or less
56% have been given to women in rural areas.

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Esikhundleni sekutsi bomake babhuce ludzaka lwekwakha, bahlala
etindlini letingasito teludzaka. Emaphandleni sekunetindlu
tangasese, kunemanti, kunagezi ... [Instead of women making mud for
building, they stay in brick houses. In rural areas there are now
pit toilets, water and electricity ...]

... and it is important to indicate that, in 2007 already, 94% of
the people of the Western Cape had access to electricity. So, the DA
just came in and scored a goal, but the build-up to the improvement
of the Western Cape was started by the ANC.

I wish to say that it is not only the responsibility of government
to ensure empowerment of women; we are all responsible as women, as
fathers and as church organisations. Everyone is responsible to
ensure that there is development of rural women. I thank you.

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND LAND REFORM: Hon
Chairperson, as a matter of historical fact I was very close to this
situation, hence I would like to make the following corrections: The
current DA was formed through a coalition between the then
Democratic Party and the New National Party. We were the largest
party in this province during that year until when the two parties
under the leadership of Martinus van Schalkwyk and Tony Leon decided
to form an alliance. That is a fact.

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Let me proceed. I really want to thank all the contributions that
have been made here. The truth is that the matter under discussion
here today is serious. It is matter about the rebuilding of a
country that was ravaged by the colonialisms and apartheid. The ANCled government is busy cleaning up the mess that was formed in more
than three centauries ago by the colonial government – a government
that unfortunately thought of itself as superior because it was
constituted by people with a white complexion. That is the mess we
are busy cleaning up today. I thought the hon members would
appreciate it.

I would like to invited people - because I think there is an hon
member here who delivered a comprehensive speech with statistics
illustrating the improvements that were made by this government – to
relook at that speech again. Secondly, I am appealing that hon
members should learn what is nice from what it is good. We never got
an opportunity to witness the IFP promoting women during the time
when it was in charge. In fact even before the IFP or during the
time of inkatha yenkululeko yesizwe we never saw the promotion of
women. In fact we consciously saw women being blocked from taking up
leadership positions. The blockage of women resulted in the
formation of the NFP.

An HONOURABLE MEMBER: Blocked by you. [Laughter.]

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The DEPUTY MINISTER OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND LAND REFORM: The last
thing I want to say is that we lead by example and through
experience. During the time when the National Party was in
government I don‘t remember the SA Parliament having a female
speaker. In fact in the whole National Party-led Cabinet there was
only one woman, called Rena Venter who served as Minister. It was
only in 1994 that we had a female speaker.

Through contribution made here we challenge you to go and establish
a rule that will enable your respective parties to have a 50% women
representation in this Parliament, both in the DA and the EFF who
are now working together. You have cemented your alliance through
the two Juliases, the one sitting here and the one who is absent
from this House today. [Laughter.] I want to conclude by saying we
really need to celebrate.

I was touched by hon Mokotla when quoting from our former esteemed
president, Oliver Tambo who said that South Africa will never be
free until its women are free. The last words I would like to quote
are those of the late Mozambiqan president when he said,

The emancipation of women is not an act of charity, the result of
a humanitarian or compassionate attitude. The liberation of women
is a fundamental necessity for the Revolution, the guarantee of
its continuity and the precondition for its victory.

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When we name women who need to be celebrated we have a tendency of
forgetting. I just want to say to my Sister ...

... baza kubetha ekhaya Sisi Thandi ... [...they will take an issue
with you, Sisi Thandi...]

... if you say where we come from, e-Herschel, women have not been
empowered. You and I know that there was no electricity there before
1994. I want to say ... [Interjections.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: Hon Deputy
Minister, you have hon Mpambo-Sibhukwana, not, Sis Thandi.

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND LAND REFORM: Okay,
Mpambo-Sibhukwana. I want to say, even the coining of the slogan
‗Wathint‘abafazi wanth‘imbokodo‘ it was a strike against apartheid
in all its manifestations. As we mention all these women who fought
so gallantly to bring us freedom in South Africa, let us not forget
that there is a woman amongst us who was a member of uMkhonto
weSizwe, a woman who was arrested, tortured - sent to prison but was
later on released - and woman who fought for our freedom. This woman
that I want us to salute as well is none other than the Chairperson
of the NCOP, Comrade Thandi Modise. [Applause.]

The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES: Order,
members. Thank you very much. Order! Order, honourable one! Members,

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order! I appreciate the excitement. I would like to appreciate all
the MEC‘s who participated in this debate and even the previous
debate, all the special delegates from the various provinces for
making up time to come and not just spend the day but to also make
these important inputs. I also want to thank you very much for these
very incisive debates. For anybody listening to you, hon members,
you were not far apart. It is just that in the nature of politics we
sometime think that it is wrong to be together up to the end. But
the points you were making were all in the interest of women. As
women of this country we would like to thank you for that.

Debate concluded.

The Council adjourned at 18:15.
__________

ANNOUNCEMENTS, TABLINGS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS

MONDAY, 26 SEPTEMBER 2016

TABLINGS

National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.

The Speaker and the Chairperson

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Integrated Report and Financial Statements of the Office of the Auditor-General of South
Africa for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 335-2016].

2.

The Minister of Energy

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Nuclear Energy Corporation (SOC)
Limited (NECSA) for 2014-15, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the
Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2014-15 [RP 274-2015].

3.

The Minister of Small Business Development

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the Small Enterprise Development Agency (SEDA) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 259-2016].

(b)

Small Enterprise Development Agency Technology Programme Annual Review for 201516.

4.

The Minister of Defence and Military Veterans

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 19 – Department of Military Veterans for 201516, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 19 for 2015-16 [RP 126-2016].

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Report and Financial Statements of Vote 19 – Department of Defence for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information of Vote 19 for 2015-16 [RP 195-2016].

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the Armaments Corporation of South Africa SOC
Limited (ARMSCOR) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the
Group Financial Statements and Performance Information For 2015-16 [RP 310-2016].

(d)

Report and Financial Statements of the Castle Control Board for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information
for 2015-16 [RP 58-2016].

5.

The Minister of Economic Development

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 25 – Department of Economic Development for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 25 for 2015-16 [RP 294-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the International Trade Administration Commission of
South Africa (ITAC) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the
Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16[RP 309-2016].

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the Competition Commission for 2015-16, including
the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 219-2016].

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Integrated Report and Financial Statements of the Competition Tribunal for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
information for 2015-16 [RP 245-2016].

(e)

Report and Financial Statements of the Industrial Development Corporation of South
Africa Limited (IDC) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the
Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

6.

The Minister of Human Settlements

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 38 – National Department of Human Settlements
for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 38 for 2015-16 [RP 324-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the National Home Builders Registration Council
(NHBRC) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements for 2015-16.

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the Estate Agency Affairs Board for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(d)

Report and Financial Statements of the Housing Development Agency for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 261-2016].

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Report and Financial Statements of the National Urban Reconstruction and Housing
Agency (NURCHA) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the
Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

(f)

Report and Financial Statements of the Social Housing Regulatory Authority (SHRA) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(g)

Report and Financial Statements of the Rural Housing Loan Fund (RHLF) for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(h)

Report and Financial Statements of the National Housing Finance Corporation SOC Ltd
(NHFC) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial
Statements for 2015-16.

(i)

Report and Financial Statements of the Community Scheme Ombud Services (CSOS) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 145-2016].

(j)

Report and Financial Statements of the Thubelisha Homes NPC (in Liquidation) for 201516, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

TUESDAY, 27 SEPTEMBER 2016

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TABLINGS

National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.

The Minister of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the Marine Living Resources Fund (MLRF) for 201516, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

2.

The Minister of Finance

(a)

Report of the Office of the Tax Ombud for 2015-16 [RP 318-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the Government Pensions Administration Agency for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the Financial Intelligence Centre for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 183-2016].

(d)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Revenue Service (SARS) for 201516, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 232-2016].

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Report and Financial Statements of the Office of the Ombud for Financial Services
Providers for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

3.

The Minister of Justice and Correctional Services

(a)

Progress report dated 18 September 2016 on the provisional suspension from office of Mrs
R M Malahlela, aspirant additional magistrate at Delmas, in terms of section 13(3)(f) of the
Magistrates Act, 1993 (No 90 of 1993).

(b)

Progress report dated 18 September 2016 on the provisional suspension from office of Mr I
W O M Morake, a magistrate at Lichtenburg, in terms of section 13(3)(f) of the
Magistrates Act, 1993 (No 90 of 1993).

(c)

Progress report dated 18 September 2016 on the provisional suspension from office of Mr
M J Kgomo, an additional magistrate at Randburg, in terms of section 13(3)(f) of the
Magistrates Act, 1993 (No 90 of 1993).

(d)

Progress report dated 18 September 2016 on the provisional suspension from office of Mr
L Zantsi, an aspirant magistrate at Laingsburg, Western Cape Province, in terms of section
13(3)(f) of the Magistrates Act, 1993 (No 90 of 1993).

(e)

Progress report dated 18 September 2016 on the provisional suspension from office of Ms
J F van Schalkwyk, chief magistrate at Kempton Park, in terms of section 13(3)(f) of the
Magistrates Act, 1993 (No 90 of 1993).

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4th Report by the Magistrates Commission dated 26 September 2016 on the upliftment of
the provisional suspension of Mr P S Hole, Magistrate at Kimberley, in terms of a
resolution of the Assembly on 20 June 2013.

(g)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 22 – Office of the Chief Justice for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information of Vote 22 for 2015-16 [RP 147-2016].

4.

The Minister of Science and Technology

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 30 – Department of Science and Technology for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 30 for 2015-16 [RP 227-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Council for Natural Scientific
Professions (SACNASP) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on
the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 286-2016].

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the Academy of Science of South Africa (ASSAF) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(d)

Report and Financial Statements of the National Research Foundation (NRF) for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16.

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Integrated Report and Financial Statements of the Human Sciences Research Council
(HSRC) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 241-2016].

(f)

Report and Financial Statements of the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research
(CSIR) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 140-2016].

(g)

Report and Financial Statements of the Technology Innovation Agency (TIA) for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 304-2015].

(h)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African National Space Agency (SANSA)
for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements
and Performance Information for 2015-16.

5.

The Minister of Sport and Recreation

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Boxing South Africa for 2015-16, including the Report
of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 201516 [RP 304-2016].

6.

The Minister of Small Business Development

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Report and Financial Statements of the Small Enterprise Finance Agency SOC Limited
(SEFA) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

7. The Minister of Women in The Presidency

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 13 – Department of Women for 2015 – 16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information of Vote 13 for 2015-16 [RP 115-2016].

WEDNESDAY, 28 SEPTEMBER 2016

ANNOUNCEMENTS

National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

The Speaker and the Chairperson

1.

Assent by President in respect of Bills

(1)

Immigration Amendment Bill [B 5 – 2016] – Act No 8 of 2016 (assented to and signed
by President on 26 September 2016).

TABLINGS

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National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.

The Minister of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 24 - Department of Agriculture, Forestry and
Fisheries for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information of Vote 24 for 2015-16.

2.

The Minister of Arts and Culture

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 37 – Department of Arts and Culture for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information of Vote 37 for 2015-16.

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the Afrikaans Language Museum and Language
Monument for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 46-2016].

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the Iziko Museums of South Africa for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 109-2016].

(d)

Report and Financial Statements of the National English Literary Museum for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 244-2016].

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Report and Financial Statements of the KwaZulu-Natal Museum for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information
for 2015-16 [RP 243-2016].

(f)

Report and Financial Statements of the Msunduzi (Incorporating the Voortrekker
Complex) Museum for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the
Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 187-2016].

(g)

Report and Financial Statements of the National Museum - Bloemfontein for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 236-2016].

(h)

Report and Financial Statements of the Ditsong Museums of South Africa for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 132-2016].

(i)

Report and Financial Statements of the Robben Island Museum for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information
for 2015-16 [RP 201-2016].

(j)

Report and Financial Statements of the War Museum of the Boer Republics for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 269-2016].

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Report and Financial Statements of the William Humphreys Art Gallery for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16.

(l)

Report and Financial Statements of the Freedom Park for 2015-16, including the Report of
the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16
[RP 03-2016].

(m) Report and Financial Statements of the National Heritage Council for 2015-16, including
the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 198-2016].

(n)

Report and Financial Statements of the National Film and Video Foundation for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 233-2016].

(o)

Report and Financial Statements of the National Arts Council of South Africa for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 254-2015].

(p)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Heritage Resources Agency
(SAHRA) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 08-2016].

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Report and Financial Statements of the South African Library for the Blind for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 200-2016].

(r)

Report and Financial Statements of the National Library of South Africa for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 184-2016].

(s)

Report and Financial Statements of the Artscape for 2015-16, including the Report of the
Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16
[RP 293-2016].

(t)

Report and Financial Statements of the Market Theatre Foundation for 2015-16, including
the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 129-2016].

(u)

Report and Financial Statements of the Performing Arts Centre of the Free State for 201516, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 279-2016].

(v)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African State Theatre for 2015-16, including
the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 45-2016].

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(w) Report and Financial Statements of The Playhouse Company for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information
for 2015-16 [RP 180-2016].

(x)

Report and Financial Statements of the Windybrow Theatre for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information
for 2015-16 [RP 130-2016].

(y)

Report and Financial Statements of the Luthuli Museum for 2015-16, including the Report
of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 201516.

(z)

Report and Financial Statements of the Nelson Mandela Museum for 2015-16, including
the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 278-2016].

(aa) Report and Financial Statements of the Pan South African Language Board (PanSALB) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 298-2016].

(bb) Report and Financial Statements of the Blind SA for 2015-16, including the Report of the
Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 201516 [RP 210-2016].

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(cc) Report and Financial Statements of Business and Arts South Africa for 2015-16, including
the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 182-2016].

2. The Minister of Finance

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 7 – National Treasury for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information
of Vote 7 for 2015-16 [RP 118-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Special Risk Insurance Association
SOC Ltd (SASRIA) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the
Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

4.

The Minister of International Relations and Cooperation

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 6 – Department of International Relations and
Cooperation for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information of Vote 6 for 2015-16.

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the African Renaissance and International Cooperation
Fund for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements
and Performance Information for 2015-16.

5.

The Minister of Justice and Correctional Services

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Inter-Departmental and Institutional Annual Reports for 2015-16 on the Implementation of
the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences and Related Matters) Amendment Act, 2007 (Act No
32 of 2007).

(b)

Inter-Departmental and Institutional Annual Reports for 2015-16 on the Implementation of
the Child Justice Act, 2008 (Act No 75 of 2008).

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Board for Sheriffs for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

6.

The Minister of Police

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 23 – Department of Police for 2015-16, including
the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information of Vote 23 for 2015-16 [RP 188-2016].

(b)

An Analysis of the National Crime Statistics for 2015/2016: Addendum to the South
African Police Service (SAPS) Annual Report [RP 218-2016].

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 20 – Independent Police Investigative Directorate
(IPID) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information of Vote 20 for 2015-16 [RP 292-2016].

7.

The Minister of Rural Development and Land Reform

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Report and Financial Statements of Vote 39 – Department of Rural Development and Land
Reform for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information of Vote 39 for 2015-16 [RP 333-2016].

8.

The Minister of Telecommunications and Postal Services

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the Universal Service and Access Agency (USAASA)
for 2015-16, including the Reports of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements for
2015-16 [RP 208-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the State Information Technology Agency (SOC)
Limited (SITA) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 307-2016].

(c)

Integrated Report and Financial Statements of Sentech SOC Limited for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 318-2015].

(d)

Report and Financial Statements of the National Electronic Media Institute of South Africa
(NEMISA) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

(e)

Report and Financial Statements of the ZA Domain Name Authority (ZADNA) for 201516, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

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Integrated Report and Financial Statements of Broadband Infraco SOC Limited for 20152016, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements for
2015-16 [RP 222-2016].

9.

The Minister in The Presidency

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 8 – Department of Planning, Monitoring and
Evaluation for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information of Vote 8 for 2015-16 [RP 193-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 12 –Statistics South Africa (Book 1) for 2015 –
16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 12 for 2015-16 [RP 150-2016].

THURSDAY, 29 SEPTEMBER 2016

ANNOUNCEMENTS

National Council of Provinces

The Chairperson

1.

Referral to Committees of papers tabled

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The following papers are referred to the Select Committee on Security and Justice for
consideration:

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 23 – Department of Police for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 23 for 2015-16 [RP 188-2016].

(b)

An Analysis of the National Crime Statistics for 2015/2016: Addendum to the South
African Police Service (SAPS) Annual Report [RP 218-2016].

TABLINGS

National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.

The Minister in The Presidency

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 1 – The Presidency for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information
of Vote 1 for 2015-16 [RP 306-2016].

2.

The Minister of Basic Education

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Council for Educators (SACE) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 189-2016].

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Report and Financial Statements of the Council for Quality Assurance in General and
Further Education and Training - UMALUSI for 2015-16, including the Report of the
Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 201516 [RP 315-2016].

3.

The Minister of Communications

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Broadcasting Corporation (SOC)
Limited (SABC) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

(b)

Constitution and Convention of the African Telecommunications Union (ATU), tabled in
terms of section 231(2) of the Constitution, 1996.

(c)

Explanatory Memorandum on the Constitution and Convention of the African
Telecommunications Union (ATU).

4.

The Minister of Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Local Government

Association

(SALGA) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 127-2016].

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Report and Financial Statements of the Municipal Demarcation Board (MDB) for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 240-2016].

5.

The Minister of Energy

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Nuclear Energy Corporation (SOC)
Limited (NECSA) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the
Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 279-2016].

6.

The Minister of Finance

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the Public Investment Corporation (SOC) Limited for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 207-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the Co-operative Banks Development Agency for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 120-2016].

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Airways SOC Limited (SAA) for
2014-2015, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements
and Performance Information for 2014-2015.

7.

The Minister of Health

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Report and Financial Statements of Vote 16 – Department of Health

for 2015-16,

including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information of Vote 16 for 2015-16 [RP 246-2016].

(b) Report and Financial Statements of the South African Medical Research Council (SAMRC)
for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the Council for Medical Schemes for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 117-2016].

(d)

Report and Financial Statements of the Office of Health Standards Compliance (OHSC)
for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 265-2016].

(e)

Report and Financial Statements of the National Health Laboratory Service (NHLS) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 252-2016].

8.

The Minister of Home Affairs

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the Government Printing Works for 2015-16, including
the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements for 2015-16 [RP 341-2016].

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The Minister of Justice and Correctional Services

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 21 – Department of Justice and Constitutional
Development for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information of Vote 21 for 2015-16 [RP 299-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the Guardian’s Fund for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 300-2016].

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the President’s Fund for 2015-16, including the Report
of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 201516 [RP 302-2016].

(d)

Report and Financial Statements of the Third Party Funds for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information
for 2015-16 [RP 344-2015].

(e)

Report and Financial Statements of the Council for Debt Collectors for 2015-16, including
the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16.

10.

The Minister of Police

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Report and Financial Statements of the Civilian Secretariat for Police for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 230-2016].

(b)

Annual Report for the period 1 April 2015 to 31 March 2016 of the Office of the
Directorate for Priority Crime Investigation (DPCI) Judge.

11.

The Minister of Public Enterprises

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 11 – Department of Public Enterprises for 201516, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 11 for 2015-16 [RP 224-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of Alexkor SOC Limited for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16.

12.

The Minister of Science and Technology

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the National Advisory Council on Innovation for 201516.

13.

The Minister of Small Business Development

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Report and Financial Statements of Vote 31 – Department of Small Business Development
for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 31 for 2015-16 [RP 332-2016].

14.

The Minister of Sport and Recreation

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 40 – Department of Sport and Recreation South
Africa for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information of Vote 40 for 2015-16 [RP 143-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of Drug-Free Sport for 2015-16, including the Report of
the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 201516.

15.

The Minister of Water and Sanitation

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 36 – Department of Water and Sanitation for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 36 for 2015-16 [RP 291-2015].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the Trans-Caledon Tunnel Authority (TCTA) for 201516, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

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Report and Financial Statements of the Water Research Commission for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16 [RP 131-2016].

(d)

Report and Financial Statements of Inkomati-Usuthu Catchment Management Agency for
2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 196-2016].

(e)

Report and Financial Statements of Breede-Gouritz Catchment Management Agency for
2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 188-2016].

FRIDAY, 30 SEPTEMBER 2016

TABLINGS

National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.

The Speaker and the Chairperson

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Human Rights Commission
(SAHRC) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

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Report and Financial Statements of the Commission on Gender Equality (CGE) for 201516, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

2.

The Minister of Basic Education

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 14 – Department of Basic Education for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information of Vote 14 for 2015-16.

3.

The Minister of Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs

(a)

Reports and Financial Statements of Vote 4 – Department of Cooperative Governance and
Department of Traditional Affairs for 2015-16, including the Reports of the AuditorGeneral on the Financial Statements and Performance Information of Vote 4 for 2015-16.

(b)

Reports and Financial Statements of Vote 4 – Department of Traditional Affairs for 201516, including the Reports of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 4 for 2015-16.

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the Commission for the Promotion and Protection of
the Rights of Cultural, Religious and Linguistic Communities (CRL Rights Commission)
for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 192-2016].

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Report of the National Disaster Management Centre for 2015-2016.

The Minister of Finance

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Airways SOC Limited (SAA) for
2015-2016, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements
and Performance Information for 2015-2016.

5.

The Minister of Justice and Correctional Services

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the Judicial Inspectorate for Correctional Services for
2015-16.

6.

The Minister of Mineral Resources

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 29 – Department of Mineral Resources for 201516, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 29 for 2015-16 [RP 262-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the Council for Geoscience for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information
for 2015-16 [RP 142-2016].

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Report and Financial Statements of the Council for Mineral Technology (Mintek) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(d)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Diamond and Precious Metals
Regulator for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 284-2016].

(e)

Report and Financial Statements of the State Diamond Trader for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information
for 2015-16.

(f)

Report and Financial Statements of the Mine Health and Safety Council

(MHSC) for

2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 15-2016].

(g)

7.

Report of the Mine Health and Safety Inspectorate for 2015-16 [RP 330-2016].

The Minister of Police

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority
(PSIRA) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

8.

The Minister of Public Service and Administration

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Report and Financial Statements of Vote 10 – Department of Public Service and
Administration for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information of Vote 10 for 2015-16 [RP 149-2016].

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the National School of Government (NSG) for 201516, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 and the Report of the Auditor-General on the
Financial Statements and Performance Information on the National School of Government
(NSG) Training Trading Account for 2015-16.

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the Government Employees Medical Scheme (GEMS)
for the year ended 31 December 2015.

9.

The Minister of Public Works

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Council for the Architectural
Profession (SACAP) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the
Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

(b) Report and Financial Statements of the Council for the Built Environment (CBE) for 201516, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 337-2016].

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Report and Financial Statements of the Construction Industry Development Board (CIDB)
for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 287-2016].

(d) Report and Financial Statements of the Independent Development Trust (IDT) for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16.

(e)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Council for the Property Valuers
Profession (SACPVP) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on
the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

(f)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Council for the Landscape
Architectural Profession (SACLAP) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent
Auditors on the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

(g) Report and Financial Statements of the South African Council for the Quantity Surveying
Profession (SACQSP) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on
the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

(h) Report and Financial Statements of the South African Council for the Project and
Construction Management Professions (SACPCMP) for 2015-16, including the Report of
the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and Performance Information for
2015-16.

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Report and Financial Statements of the Engineering Council of South Africa (ECSA) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(j)

10.

Report and Financial Statements of Agrément South Africa (ASA) for 2015-16.

The Minister in The Presidency

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the National Youth Development Agency (NYDA) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

11.

The Minister of Transport

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the Driving Licence Card Account for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements for 2015-16.

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the Road Traffic Infringement Agency (RTIA) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African National Roads Agency Limited
(SANRAL) SOC Limited for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the
Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

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Reports and Financial Statements of the Cross-Border Road Transport Agency (C-BRTA)
for 2015-16, including the Reports of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(e)

Report and Financial Statements of the Road Accident Fund for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information
for 2015-16.

(f)

Report and Financial Statements of the Road Traffic Management Corporation (RTMC)
for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(g)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Search and Rescue Organisation for
2015-16.

(h)

Reports and Financial Statements of the Ports Regulator of South Africa for 2015-16,
including the Reports of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16.

(i)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Maritime Safety Authority
(including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Maritime Fund) for 2015-16, including
the Reports of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16.

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Report and Financial Statements of the Railway Safety Regulator for 2015-16, including
the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16.

(k)

Report of the Railway Safety Regulator for 2015-16 with the State of Safety Report.

(l)

Report and Financial Statements of the Passenger Rail Agency of South Africa (PRASA)
for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(m) Annual Financial Statements of Autopax Passenger Services (SOC) Limited for 2015-16.

(n)

Report and Financial Statements of Intersite Asset Investments (SOC) Limited for 201516, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(o)

Integrated Report and Financial Statements of the Air Traffic and Navigation Services
Company Limited (ATNS) SOC Limited for 2015-16.

(p)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Civil Aviation Authority (SACAA)
for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(q)

Integrated Report and Financial Statements of the Airports Company of South Africa SOC
Limited and its subsidiaries for 2015-16.

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Consolidated Annual Financial Statements of the Airports Company of South Africa SOC
Limited and its subsidiaries for 2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors
on the Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

12.

The Minister of Rural Development and Land Reform

(a)

Report of the Communal Property Associations for 2015-16, tabled in terms of section 17
of the Communal Property Associations Act, 1996 (Act No 28 of 1996).

13.

The Minister of Social Development

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 17 – Department of Social Development for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 17 for 2015-16.

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Social Security Agency (SASSA) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the National Development Agency (NDA) for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance
Information for 2015-16.

14.

The Minister of Telecommunications and Postal Services

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Report and Financial Statements of the South African Post Office SOC Limited (SAPO)
for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

National Council of Provinces

1.

The Chairperson

(a)

Letter from the Minister of Environmental Affairs dated 24 September 2016, to the
Chairperson of the National Council of Provinces explaining the reasons for the delay in
the tabling of the Annual Report of the Department of Environmental Affairs for 2015-16.
TABLING OF ANNUAL REPORT, AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND
REPORT OF THE AUDITOR-GENERAL FOR 2015/16 FINANCIAL YEAR IN
TERMS

OF

SECTION

40(1)

OF

THE

PFMA



DEPARTMENT

OF

ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS

The above matter has reference.

In terms of section 65 of the Public and Finance Management Act (Act No. 29 of 1999
(PFMA), I am required, as Minister and Executive Authority of the National Department
of Environmental Affairs, to comply with the following tabling requirements:

“to table in Parliament within six months of the end of each financial year (i.e. 30
September 2016 for the 2015/16 financial) an annual report on the activities of the

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Department along with the audited financial statements for that financial year, and a
report of the Auditor-General on those statements.”

The provisions of the abovementioned legislation further requires that in the event that I
am unable to comply with the above tabling responsibility in section 65, I must table a
written explanation in the legislature setting out the reasons for failing to table the required
reports on time. I therefore, hereby wish to report to the Speaker of the National Assembly
that I will not be able to table on time (30 September 2016) an annual report on the
activities of the Department of Environmental Affairs, audited financial statements and a
report of the Auditor-General for the financial year which ended 31 March 2016 as
required of me in terms of section 65 of the PFMA due to the reasons outlined below.

The process of finalising the Auditor-General (AG)’s audit of the 2015/16 financial
statements of the Department of Environmental Affairs (DEA) has taken an unusually
extended amount of time to complete as the Department and the AG are having a different
interpretation with regard to the application of Modified Cash Standard (published by
Office of the Accountant General in 2013) as they relate to transfer payment for the
Expanded Public Works Programme (EPWP) projects.

During the last year’s engagements with the Office of the Accountant General (OAG),
Budget Office, Auditor-General and later the Chief Procurement Officer (CPO) it was
evident that there are material accounting conflicts/inconsistencies with regard to the
application of MCS to funds appropriated as transfers under Programme 6 (Environmental
Programmes) of the Department for the implementation of the Expanded Public Works
Programme (EPWP). The OAG has, since the 2013/14 financial year, been granting DEA

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letters of departure from the application of Modified Cash Standards, and the identified
inconsistencies have not been corrected.

Notwithstanding the highlighted inconsistencies/challenges and the Department having
been granted approval for departure from MCS and having explained its position to the
Auditor-General (AG), the AG has since issued the Department with a qualified audit
opinion as expressed in a report signed on 04 August 2016. The Department is therefore
challenging this report/audit opinion on the basis of the challenges/inconsistencies
highlighted. The matter is therefore currently under discussion between the AG, myself
and an Executive Authority of the Department and National Treasury for mediation and
resolution.

It is on the basis of these delays that I will, as an Executive Authority of the Department,
not be able to comply with the tabling requirements as outlined in section 65(1)(a) of the
PFMA.

I am dealing with this issue (with the AG) as a matter of priority, and it is expected that the
outlined delayed reporting requirements (submission of annual report, audited financial
statement and AG report) will be complied with (not later than 31 December 2016).

Yours sincerely

(Signed)
MRS B E E MOLEWA, MP
MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS

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TUESDAY, 4 OCTOBER 2016

TABLINGS

National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.

The Minister of Justice and Correctional Services

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 18 – Department of Correctional Services for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 18 for 2015-16 [RP 84-2016].

2.

The Minister of Rural Development and Land Reform

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the Ingonyama Trust Board for 2015-16, including the
Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and Performance Information
for 2015-16 [RP 146-2016].

3.

The Minister of Telecommunications and Postal Services

Please Note: The following entries are a correction of items (b) and (c) incorrectly tabled in
the name of the Minister of Communications in the ATC (Announcements,
Tablings and Committee Reports) of 29 September 2016, on page 3.

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Constitution and Convention of the African Telecommunications Union (ATU), tabled in
terms of section 231(2) of the Constitution, 1996.

(c)

Explanatory Memorandum on the Constitution and Convention of the African
Telecommunications Union (ATU).

4.

The Minister of Trade and Industry

(a)

General Notice No 1054, published in Government Gazette No 40279, dated 16 September
2016: Notice to Amendment to the East London Industrial Development Zone for the
purpose of the tax incentives, in terms of the Special Economic Zones Regulations Act,
2014 (Act No 16 of 2014).

National Council of Provinces

1.

The Chairperson

(a)

Notice of Termination of Intervention issued in terms of section 139(1)(b) of the
Constitution, 1996 to Oudtshoorn Local Municipality, Western Cape.

Referred to the Select Committee on Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs.

WEDNESDAY, 5 OCTOBER 2016

ANNOUNCEMENTS

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National Council of Provinces

The Chairperson

1.

Referral to Committees of papers tabled

(1)

The following papers are referred to the Select Committee on Finance for consideration:

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of the Land Bank for 2015-16, including the Report
of the Auditor-General on the Consolidated Financial Statements of the Land and
Agricultural Development Bank of South Africa (Land Bank) and Performance
Information for 2015-2016.

(b)

Report and Financial Statements of the South African Reserve Bank for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-2016.

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of the Financial and Fiscal Commission (FFC) for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements
and Performance Information for 2015-16.

(d)

Report and Financial Statements of the Corporation for Public Deposits for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

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Report and Financial Statements of the Independent Regulatory Board for Auditors
for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements
and Performance Information for 2015-16.

(f)

Report and Financial Statements of the Accounting Standards Board for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(g)

Report and Financial Statements of the Bank Supervision Department for 2015-16.

(h)

Report and Financial Statements of the Development Bank of Southern Africa for
2015-16, including the Report of the Independent Auditors on the Financial
Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

(i)

Report and Financial Statements of the Office of the Pension Funds Adjudicator for
2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements
and Performance Information for 2015-16.

(j)

Report and Financial Statements of the Financial Services Board for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16.

(2)

The following papers are referred to the Select Committee on Security and Justice for
information:

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Report and Financial Statements of the Private Security Industry Regulatory
Authority (PSIRA) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the
Financial Statements and Performance Information for 2015-16.

(b)

Annual Report for the period 1 April 2015 to 31 March 2016 of the Office of the
Directorate for Priority Crime Investigation (DPCI) Judge.

(c)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 20 – Independent Police Investigative
Directorate (IPID) for 2015-16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the
Financial Statements and Performance Information of Vote 20 for 2015-16 [RP 2922016].

(d)

Report and Financial Statements of the Civilian Secretariat for Police for 2015-16,
including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information for 2015-16 [RP 230-2016].

TABLINGS

National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.

The Minister in The Presidency

(a)

Report and Financial Statements of Vote 12 –Statistics South Africa (Book 2) for 2015 –
16, including the Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements and
Performance Information of Vote 12 for 2015-16 [RP 150-2016].

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FRIDAY, 7 OCTOBER 2016

TABLINGS

National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

1.

The Minister of Trade and Industry

(a)

General Notice No 581 published in Government Gazette No 40262 dated 9 September
2016: Invitation for the public to comment on the Intellectual Property Consultative
Framework, 2016.
MONDAY, 10 OCTOBER 2016

ANNOUNCEMENTS

National Council of Provinces

The Chairperson

(1)

The following papers are referred to the Select Committee on Security and Justice for
consideration:

(a)

Progress report dated 18 September 2016 on the provisional suspension from
office of Mrs R M Malahlela, aspirant additional magistrate at Delmas, in
terms of section 13(3)(f) of the Magistrates Act, 1993 (No 90 of 1993).

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Progress report dated 18 September 2016 on the provisional suspension from
office of Mr I W O M Morake, a magistrate at Lichtenburg, in terms of
section 13(3)(f) of the Magistrates Act, 1993 (No 90 of 1993).

(c)

Progress report dated 18 September 2016 on the provisional suspension from
office of Mr M J Kgomo, an additional magistrate at Randburg, in terms of
section 13(3)(f) of the Magistrates Act, 1993 (No 90 of 1993).

(d)

Progress report dated 18 September 2016 on the provisional suspension from
office of Mr L Zantsi, an aspirant magistrate at Laingsburg, Western Cape
Province, in terms of section 13(3)(f) of the Magistrates Act, 1993 (No 90 of
1993).

(e)

Progress report dated 18 September 2016 on the provisional suspension from
office of Ms J F van Schalkwyk, chief magistrate at Kempton Park, in terms
of section 13(3)(f) of the Magistrates Act, 1993 (No 90 of 1993).

(f)

4th Report by the Magistrates Commission dated 26 September 2016 on the
upliftment of the provisional suspension of Mr P S Hole, Magistrate at
Kimberley, in terms of a resolution of the Council on 20 June 2013.

TUESDAY, 11 OCTOBER 2016

ANNOUNCEMENTS

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National Assembly and National Council of Provinces

The Speaker and the Chairperson

1.

Classification of Bills by Joint Tagging Mechanism (JTM)

(1)

The JTM in terms of Joint Rule 160(6) classified the following Bill as a section 76 Bill:

(a)

National Forests Amendment Bill [B 11 – 2016] (National Assembly – sec 76).

National Council of Provinces

The Chairperson

1.

Membership of Committees

(a)

Hon MI Rayi has been elected as the Chairperson of the Select Committee on Economic
and Business Development with effect from 11 October 2016.

COMMITTEE REPORTS

National Council of Provinces

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1. Report of the Select Committee on Land and Mineral Resources on the Performing Animals
Protection Amendment Bill [B 9B - 2015] (National Assembly – Section 75), dated 11 October
2016.

The Performing Animals Protection Amendment Bill [B 9B - 2015] (National Assembly – Section 75)
was referred to the Select Committee on Land and Mineral Resources in terms of Joint Rule 209, on 24
August 2016, with the President’s reservation as stated below:

The NCOP failed to adhere to the procedure outlined in Section 75(2) of the Constitution of the
Republic of South Africa and Rule 61 of the NCOP’s rules.

The Select Committee on Land and Mineral Resources, having deliberated on and considered the
reservation of the President and in accordance with Joint Rule 209(3)(a), agrees with the President’s
reservation and recommends that the Council corrects the procedural defect by putting the Bill before
the House for consideration.

Report to be considered


 


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