Question NW2259 to the Minister of Social Development
22 July 2022 - NW2259
Gondwe, Dr M to ask the Minister of Social Development
(1)With reference to her reply to question 1608 on 16 May 2022, (a) by what date and (b) how does the SA Social Security Agency intend to recover the specified monies from the implicated 5 812 public servants; (2) (a)(i) in which departments are the implicated public servants currently employed and (ii) at what salary level are they employed and (b) what is the breakdown of this in each (i) national and (ii) provincial department; (3) what (a) total number of persons form part of the multi stakeholder forum and (b) positions do they hold in their respective departments?
Reply:
1. a) It is not possible to provide a date when recovery will be made since the loss recovery process runs parallel with the criminal prosecution processes as per Section 300 of the Criminal Procedure Act, Act 51 of 1977. As and when the National Prosecution Authority starts prosecution on individual cases, the processes of loss recovery will also unfold. b) SASSA is running parallel processes that is criminal and civil action as stated above to ensure that no civil servant escapes repaying SASSA
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- (a)(i) Employee Distribution by Department
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Province |
Department |
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Free State |
Health- 34 |
Education-23 |
Social Development 28 |
Cooperative Governance 1 |
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KwaZulu-Natal |
Agriculture 13 |
Arts and Culture 5 |
Cooperative Governance 33 |
Economic Development 1 |
Education 38 |
Health 221 |
Human Settlement 1 |
Public Works 2 |
Social Development 43 |
Transport 101 |
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Mpumalanga |
Agriculture 2 |
Arts and Sports 3 |
Economic Development 3 |
Education 60 |
Health 103 |
Human Settlement 1 |
SOCDEV 12 |
Cooperative Governance 1 |
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Northern Cape |
Agriculture 1 |
Education 119 |
Health 3 |
Road and Public Works 1 |
Social Development 5 |
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Western Cape |
Agriculture 1 |
Education 27 |
Health 172 |
Provincial Treasury 1 |
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Eastern Cape |
Sports 1 |
Health 986 |
Education 8 |
Transport 1 |
Social Development 21 |
Cooperative Governance 1 |
Office of the Premier 4 |
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Gauteng |
Agriculture 1 |
Community Safety 1 |
Education 34 |
Health 113 |
Office of the Premier 14 |
Social Development 14 |
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Limpopo |
Transport and Community Safety 1 |
Social Development 10 |
Health 6 |
Education 113 |
cooperative Governance 1 |
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Northwest |
Agriculture4 |
Arts and Culture2 |
Community safety1 |
Cooperative Governance 5 |
Economic Development 19 |
Education 368 |
Health 129 |
Office of the Premier 2 |
Provincial Treasury 2 |
Public Works 2 |
Social Development 2 |
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National |
Agriculture9 |
Basic Education3 |
Correctional Service40 |
Employment and Labour 10 |
Higher Education 4 |
Justice 23 |
Mineral Resources 1 |
Police 4 |
Public Service 1 |
Public Works 9 |
Small Business 1 |
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Social Development1 |
Stats SA8 |
Trade and Industry 18 |
Water and Sanitation2 |
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- 2. (a)(ii) Employee Salary level distribution
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Province |
Department |
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Free State
86 |
Health- 34 SL0 - 8 SL2 – 6 SL3 – 5 SL5 – 7 SL7 – 8 |
Education-23 SL0 - 1 SL2 – 2 SL3 – 2 SL7 – 17 SL9 – 1 |
Social Development 28
SL0 - 27 SL3 – 1
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Cooperative Governance 1
SL7 - 1
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KwaZulu-Natal
758 |
Agriculture 13
SL0 - 13
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Arts and Culture 5 SL0 - 0
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Cooperative Governance 33
SL0 – 33
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Economic Development 1 SL0 - 1
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Education 338
SL0 - 234 SL4 – 1 SL6 – 16 SL7 - 85 SL8 - 2
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Health 221
SL0 - 21 SL2 – 29 SL3 – 26 SL4 – 5 SL5 – 127 SL6 – 2 SL7 – 10 SL11 – 1 |
Human Settlement 1
SL5 - 1
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Public Works 2
SL11 - 2
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Social Development 43
SL0 - 42 SL8 – 1
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Transport 101
SL0 - 100 SL11 - 1
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Mpumalanga
185 |
Agriculture 2
SL0 - 2
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Arts Culture and Sports 3
SL0 - 3
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Economic Development 3
SL0 - 3
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Education 60
SL0 - 7 SL2 – 1 SL6 – 1 SL7 – 51
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Health 103
SL0 - 80 SL2 – 8 SL3 – 6 SL4 – 2 SL5 - 1 SL7 – 5 SL11 – 1 |
Human Settlement 1
SL0 - 1
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Social Development 12
SL0 - 11 SL7 – 1 |
Cooperative Governance 1
SL0 - 0
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Northern Cape
129 |
Agriculture 1
SL0 - 1
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Education 119
SL0 - 110 SL3 – 1 SL6 – 3 SL7 – 5 |
Health 3
SL0 - 1 SL3– 1 SL6 - 1
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Road and Public Works 1
SL3 - 1 |
Social Development 5
SL0 - 2 SL7 – 3
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Western Cape
201 |
Agriculture 1
SL4 - 1
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Education 27
SL0 - 5 SL2 – 1 SL3 – 2 SL5 – 1 SL7 – 18 |
Health 172
SL0 - 3 SL2 – 8 SL3 – 20 SL4 – 119 SL5 – 22 |
Provincial Treasury 1
SL0 - 1
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Eastern Cape
1022 |
Sports 1
SL0 – 1 |
Health 986
SL0 - 908 SL2 – 5 SL3 – 26 SL4 – 1 SL5 – 27 SL6 – 2 SL7 – 16 SL9 – 1 |
Education 8
SL7 – 8
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Transport 1
SL0 – 1
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Social Development 21
SL0 - 17 SL5 – 1 SL7 – 2 SL12 - 1 |
Cooperative Governance 1
SL7 – 1
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Office of the Premier 4
SL0 – 4 |
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Gauteng
177 |
Agriculture 1
SL0 - 1
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Community Safety 1
SL2- 1 |
Education 34
SL0 - 4 SL2 - 7 SL5 – 4 SL7 – 19 |
Health 113
SL0 - 9 SL2 - 35 SL3 – 11 SL4 – 10 SL5 – 31 SL7 – 16 SL11 - 1 |
Office of the Premier 14
SL0 - 14
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Social Development 14
SL0 - 8 SL3 – 4 SL5 – 1 SL11 - 1
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Limpopo
131 |
Transport and Community Safety 1
SL13 – 1 |
Social Development 10
SL0 - 10
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Health 6
SL0 - 1 SL4 – 1 SL7 – 4
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Education 113
SL0 - 11 SL6 – 2 SL7 – 99 SL9 - 1 |
Cooperative Governance 1
SL0 - 1 |
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Northwest
536 |
Agriculture 4
SL0 - 3 SL2 – 1 |
Arts and Culture 2
SL0 - 2 |
Community safety 1
SL5 - 1 |
Cooperative Governance 5
SL0 - 5 |
Economic Development 19
SL0 - 19 |
Education 368
SL0 - 318 SL2 – 11 SL5 – 10 SL6 – 6 SL7 - 23 |
Health 129
SL0 - 62 SL2 – 6 SL3 – 17 SL4 – 8 SL5 – 15 SL6 – 1 SL7 – 15 SL8 – 2 SL9 – 1 SL10 – 1 SL11 – 1 |
Office of the Premier 2
SL6 - 2 |
Prov incialTreasury 2
SL0 - 1 SL8 – 1
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Public Worls 2
SL0 - 2 |
Social Development 2
SL7 - 2
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National
134 |
Agriculture 9
SL0 - 5 SL8 – 2 SL11 - 2
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Basic Education 3
SL0 - 3 |
Correctional Service 40
SL5 - 36 SL7 – 3 SL8 - 1
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Employment and Labour 10
SL0 - 1 SL6 – 1 SL8 – 8 |
Higher Education 4
SL0 - 2 SL2 – 1 SL5 – 1
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Justice 23
SL0 - 1 SL4 – 1 SL5 – 16 SL7 – 3 SL10 – 1 SL11 – 1 |
Mineral Resources 1
SL0 – 1 |
Police 4
SL0 - 2 SL2 – 1 SL6 – 1
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Public Service 1
SL4 - 1 |
Public Works 9
SL3 – 5 SL5 – 1 SL8 – 1 SL11 - 2 |
Small Business 1
SL3 - 1 |
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Social Development 1
SL0 – 1 |
Stats SA 8
SL0 - 8 |
Trade and Industry 18
SL0 - 18 |
Water and Sanitation 2
SL2 – 2 |
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- 2. (b) (i) Breakdown at National level
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Province |
Department |
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National |
Agric 9 |
Basic Education 3 |
Correctional Service 40 |
Emplyment and Lbour 10 |
Higher Education 4 |
Justice 23 |
Mineral Resources 1 |
Police 4 |
Public Service 1 |
Public Works 9 |
Small Business 1 |
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Soc-Dev 1 |
Stats SA 8 |
Trade and Indistry 18 |
Water and Sanitation 2 |
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- 2.(b)(ii) Breakdown at Provincial level
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Province |
Department |
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Free State |
Health- 34 |
Education-23 |
Social Development 28 |
Cooperative Governance 1 |
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KwaZulu-Natal |
Agriculture 13 |
Arts and Culture 5 |
Cooperative Governance 33 |
Economic Development 1 |
Education 38 |
Health 221 |
Human Settlement 1 |
Public Works 2 |
Social Development 43 |
Transport 101 |
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Mpumalanga |
Agriculture 2 |
Arts and Sports 3 |
Economic Development 3 |
Education 60 |
Health 103 |
Human Settlement 1 |
SOCDEV 12 |
Cooperative Governance 1 |
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Northern Cape |
Agriculture 1 |
Education 119 |
Health 3 |
Road and Public Works 1 |
Social Development 5 |
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Western Cape |
Agriculture 1 |
Education 27 |
Health 172 |
Provincial Treasury 1 |
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Eastern Cape |
Sports 1 |
Health 986 |
Education 8 |
Transport 1 |
Social Development 21 |
Cooperative Governance 1 |
Office of the Premier 4 |
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Gauteng |
Agriculture 1 |
Community Safety 1 |
Education 34 |
Health 113 |
Office of the Premier 14 |
Social Development 14 |
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Limpopo |
Transport and Community Safety 1 |
Social Development 10 |
Health 6 |
Education 113 |
Cooperative Governance 1 |
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Northwest |
Agriculture 4 |
Arts and Culture 2 |
Community safety 1 |
Cooperative Governance 5 |
Economic Development 19 |
Education 368 |
Health 129 |
Office of the Premier 2 |
Provincial Treasury 2 |
Public Works 2 |
Social Development 2 |
- (3) (a) The multi-party forum consists of twenty officials (20) made up of the NPA, FIC, SAPS, DPSA and SASSA collectively.
- Each organisation is led by a Senior official at the level of Chief Director/ General Manager and lowest position is that of Manager/ Deputy Director as detailed on the table below
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No |
Name |
Organisation |
Position |
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1 |
Adv P D Makroti |
NPA (NPS) |
Senior State Advocate |
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2 |
Adv S Masilela |
NPA |
Senior State Prosecutor |
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3 |
Adv G Mosetha |
NPA |
Senior State Prosecutor |
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4 |
Mable Mshego |
FIC |
Project Manager |
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5 |
Ahzur Mohamed |
FIC |
Project Manager |
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6 |
Celeste Van der Westhuizen |
FIC |
Project Coordinator |
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7 |
Marguerite Carreira |
FIC |
Project Manager |
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8 |
Michelle Maitland |
FIC |
Project Manager |
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9 |
General L Magson |
SAPS |
General |
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10 |
Brigadier DS Tsupa |
SAPS |
Brigadier |
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11 |
Brigadier NM Zondi |
SAPS |
Brigadier |
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12 |
Colonel M Phukubye |
SAPS |
Colonel |
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13 |
Colonel G Zwane |
SAPS |
Colonel |
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14 |
Dr S Hoogenraad-Vermaak |
DPSA |
Chief Director |
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15 |
Isaac Kabini (IK) |
DPSA |
Director |
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16 |
Ronelle Brandt |
DPSA |
Director |
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17 |
Nkosinathi Dlamini |
DPSA |
Deputy Director |
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18 |
Dr Hlengani Bila |
SASSA |
General Manager |
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19 |
Mr James Sambo |
SASSA |
Manager |
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20 |
Mr Majoro Pakkies |
SASSA |
Manager |