Chamber of Mines Input on Ex-Mineworkers Union
Matters Relating to Ex-Mineworkers
13 November 2007
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AD HOC COMMITTEE ON EX-MINEWORKERS UNION
13 November 2007
CHAMBER OF MINES INPUT ON EX-MINEWORKERS UNION
Chairperson: Mr M Sonto (ANC)
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Presentation by the
Chamber of Mines (Chamber) on the Ex-Mineworkers’ Union
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meeting
SUMMARY
The Chamber of Mines gave a detailed briefing on the
interaction between itself and the Ex-Mineworkers Union, its response to the
issues raised by the union, the legal status of the Ex-Mineworkers Union and
information on the Chamber of Mines’s Ex-Mineworker Project. The Chamber of
Mines said that it would assist the Committee in obtaining the list of
beneficiaries of the 1970s Provident Fund.
MINUTES
The Chairperson noted that the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM)
presentation to the Committee had been postponed by NUM until 14 November.
Chamber of Mines presentation
The Chamber of Mines delegation was led by Dr Frans
Barker, Senior Executive, and Dr Elize Strydom, Labour Relations Adviser.
Dr Barker informed the Committee that the Chamber of
Mines is a lobbying, advocacy and wage negotiating body and does not handle any
matters relating to pension and compensation payouts.
Dr Barker said the Chamber had been repeatedly contacted by Mr Elliot Nomazele
over the past nine years under the banner of four different organisations, all
unregistered, with the last being named the Ex-Mineworkers Union. The Chamber
of Mines did not recognise the authority of the Ex-Mineworkers Union to speak
on behalf of employees or ex-employees. Further, the Ex-Mineworkers Union had
not complied with the legal requirements for becoming a union. On that basis,
Dr Barker said he did not know where this union got its locus to collect money
for people. The only union the Chamber of Mines recognised with regard to mine
workers was the National Union of Mine Workers (NUM).
Dr Barker handed over to Dr Strydom who briefed the Committee on the payment of
ex-mineworkers for occupational injuries and diseases compensation and pension
and death benefits and associated difficulties. The Chamber of Mines had given
the Ex-Mineworkers Union full details of the appropriate government and private
bodies to deal with their various queries.
Discussion
Mr P Nefolovhodwe (AZAPO) asked the Chamber of Mines why locating
ex-workers was generally a problem despite the fact that they provided their
contact details.
Dr Strydom agreed that it was true that mines had good records. The problem
however was reconciling the records of the 1970 Provident Fund with the list
presented to them by the Ex-MineWorkers Union leader.
The Chairperson’s comment on the issue was that the mines should be sure of
their own records to be able to disprove the list presented by the leader of
the Ex- MineWorkers Union. He asked if the Chamber of Mines could assist the
Committee in getting the list of beneficiaries of the 1970s Provident Fund.
Dr Barker repeated the fact that they are not responsible for this Fund, but
that since the body responsible had offices in the same building as the Chamber
of Mines, they would discuss this request with that body.
Mr Nefolovhodwe asked the Chamber of Mines about their authority and ability to
get the information the Committee needed.
Dr Barker responded that although they did not have direct authority to look
into the Fund, they could still assist. They would be supplied with the
information if they requested it from the body working with the Mine Worker’s
Provident Fund.
Ms N Matsemela (ANC) asked what the Fund’s definition of spouse and beneficiary
was.
Dr Strydom responded that the Fund’s definition of spouse was very broad. The
definition of spouse accommodated more than one spouse and was not restricted
to those in wedlock. On the definition of a child, this was also very broad. It
included adopted children and had no limit to the number of children it
covered.
In reply to Ms Matsemela asking if a daughter-in-law fell under the definition
of child, Dr Strydom said that it did not.
Mr Nefolovhodwe appealed to the Chamber to try to get the list first, and once
that was done, the issue of locating the beneficiaries of the Fund would be
decided on.
The Chairperson thanked the Chamber and said the Committee would decide on
whether or not to invite the people directly involved with the MineWorkers
Provident Fund to brief the Committee.
The meeting was adjourned.
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