Education Department Annual Report 2005/06: briefing
NCOP Education and Technology, Sports, Arts and Culture
07 February 2007
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EDUCATION AND RECREATION SELECT COMMITTEE
7 February 2007
EDUCATION DEPARTMENT ANNUAL REPORT 2005/06: BRIEFING
Documents handed-out:
Department
presentation on the Annual Report
Department Annual Report (available at www.education.gov.za).
Audio
Recording of the meeting
SUMMARY
The Committee was briefed on the Department’s annual report for the year
2005/06. The Department had released the draft norms and standards for the
funding of Grade R in public schools. They were submitted to the Minister of
Finance for concurrence and the Department was awaiting his response.
Amendments to the South Africa School Act were effected to allow for the
declaration of "no fee" schools. Regulations relating to the
exemption of parent from the payment of school fees in public schools had been
strengthened. District based support teams to support the implementation of
inclusive education were established in all provinces. National guidelines for
inclusive learning programmes were finalised for field-testing. The national
strategy for screening, identification, assessment and support of learners with
special needs was also finalised.
Guidelines on school uniforms were gazetted. The school governing bodies would
have to take the guidelines into account when determining school uniforms. This
would ensure that parents were not unreasonably burdened by the cost of school
uniforms. The impact of the guidelines was only felt from the beginning of this
year. Positive comments had been made about simpler school uniforms. The
Learning and Teaching Support Material (LTSM) Forum comprising stakeholders
involved with LTSM was established. The Department was still not comfortable
that it was getting full value for money on LTSM. The Mathematics, Science and
Technology Strategy had been expanded to include 400 Dinaledi schools. A
catalogue of grade 11 textbooks had been compiled for selection by schools.
Schools were expected to choose textbooks from the catalogue.
The Department had spent 98, 5% of its total budget. There was an under
spending of 1, 2% which looked small as a percentage though it involved a lot
of money (R193 million). It had received an unqualified audit report but there
were matters of emphasis relating to conditional grants and the asset register.
Provinces had not reported by the 15th of each month despite regular
reminders. The asset register was incomplete for intangible assets including
computer software and copyright materials.
The Committee asked many questions that included the following:
- Did the people who had to deliver the books have the required capacity.
- Had the Department explored the possibility of paying a full teacher salary
to Grade R teachers.
- Whether there was a system that could be used to inform suppliers of what
schools would need in the coming year.
- Whether schools would still be allowed to buy books from the supplier of
their choice.
- What the Department was doing to deal with the movement of learners from
schools that charged fees to no fee schools. A number of learners were flocking
to no fees school in some provinces.
- What criteria was used to determine the no fee schools.
- Whether the schools health project launched in the Eastern Cape would be
rolled out to other provinces.
MINUTES
Presentation by the Department
The Chairperson welcomed the Department to the first meeting of the
Committee for the year. Dr Duncan Hindle (Director General) and Mr P Benade
(Chief Financial Officer) represented the Department. Dr Hindle made the
presentation (see document attached). He said that the Department had released
the draft norms and standards for the funding of Grade R in public schools.
They were submitted to the Minister of Finance for concurrence and the
Department was awaiting his response. Cabinet had approved the National
Integrated Plan on Early Childhood Development programme for the 0-4 years
olds. It was a cluster programme to be implemented by the Departments of Social
Development, Health and Education. A major issue was special needs schools and
inclusive education. District based support teams to support the implementation
of inclusive education were established in all provinces. National guidelines
for inclusive learning programmes were finalised for field-testing. The
national strategy for screening, identification, assessment and support of
learners with special needs was also finalised.
He said that many teachers had complained that they were spending too much time
doing administrative tasks. The national protocol on assessment had been
published. It was aimed at reducing the administrative workload of teachers. A
teacher's main job was to teach and assessment was consequential to that.
Guidelines on school uniforms were gazetted. The school governing bodies would
have to take the guidelines into account when determining school uniforms. This
would ensure that parents were not unreasonably burdened by the cost of school
uniforms. The impact of the guidelines was only felt from the beginning of this
year. Positive comments had been made about simpler school uniforms. The
Gauteng Department of Education had said something to the effect that it would
entertain jeans and takkies if this meant that more children would go to
school. The Department was misunderstood to be promoting jeans and takkies. The
point was getting more children to school. There was a need for school uniforms
but children should not be excluded fro schools simply because they could not
afford the uniform.
Dr Hindle said that a Learning and Teaching Support Material (LTSM) Forum
comprising stakeholders involved with LTSM was established. The Department was
still not comfortable that it was getting full value for money on LTSM. The
Education Management Policy Framework and the South Africa Standard for
Principalship were finalised. There was no attempt to say that principals were
not doing their jobs. The issue was that they were trained to teach. Being a
principal was equivalent to being a manager and this required different
training. There were about 700 bursaries available for principals this year and
a number of organisations were prepared to sponsor the training of principals.
All provinces had implemented the National Curriculum Statements Grade 10 as
from January 2006. The Mathematics, Science and Technology Strategy had been
expanded to include 400 Dinaledi schools. A catalogue of grade 11 textbooks had
been compiled for selection textbooks by schools. Schools were expected to
choose textbooks from the catalogue.
He said that amendments to the South Africa School Act were effected to allow
for the declaration of "no fee" schools. Regulations relating to the
exemption of parents from the payment of school fees in public schools were
strengthened. The Department had successfully defended a case that sought to
declare section 14 of the Employment of Educators Act unconstitutional. It was
successful in an application to scrap discriminatory provisions in a certain
higher education bursary fund administered by the Syfrets trust. The case was
very important because a lot of people held the view that a person's will was
sacrosanct. It had implications for a large number of bursary schemes.
Dr Hindle said that the Department had spent 98, 5% of its total budget. There
was an under spending of 1, 2% and this looked small percentage wise even
though it involved a lot of money (R193 million). It had received an
unqualified audit report but there were matters of emphasis relating to
conditional grants and the asset register. Provinces had not reported by the 15th
of each month despite regular reminders. The asset register was incomplete for
intangible assets including computer software and copyright materials.
Discussion
Mr A Sulliman (ANC) [Northern Cape] said that the under spending was
minimal percentage wise but it involved a lot of money. He asked if the
Department had put some mechanism in place to lower the under spending in the
next financial year. Educators were complaining that they had a lot of
additional administrative work to do. He asked if the Department was working on
this concern and when results could be expected.
Dr Hindle agreed that the Department had under spent by a lot money. A lot
could have been done with the money and there were mechanisms to deal with
under spending. Teachers were at times asked by their district offices and
provinces to assess, keep records of assessments and submit the marks. Teachers
were expected to do some administrative work but there were problems when the
administrative roles started to compete with teaching time. There was a need
for non-educators to help at schools.
Ms J Masilo said that there were delays in delivering books to schools every
year. She asked if people expected to deliver the books had the required
capacity. Most of the Grade R pupils in her constituency had been taken to
primary schools. Their schools were closed. The educators who used to teach
them before were left with no jobs. She also focused on the delivery of the
national flag to schools. The North West province had the Speaker's programme
in which member of the legislature were given ten flags each. They were
encouraged to “adopt” schools and distribute the flags to them. The programme
ran well and almost each school had a flag.
Dr Hindle replied that the Department had spent R3 billion a year on LTSM and
it did not make sense that some schools did not have books. Different provinces
had different systems. The Western Cape had a decentralised system and had told
schools to go and buy materials from any supplier. This system was working well
in the province but this did not necessarily mean that it would also work well
in Limpopo province. Some provinces had a centralised system whereby the
province would make a single purchase and distribute the materials to schools.
Gauteng and KwaZulu Natal province had appointed agencies to buy the books on
their behalf. Very few of the systems were delivering the value that the
Department thought it should be getting for the R3 billion investment.
He said that the Department was looking into the issue of how to manage the
distribution and retention of LTSM. Books were not retained and reused as
expected. There were lots of issues involved and capacity was one of them.
There was a problem in the Northern Cape because the publisher had not yet
published the books. The publishers held the Department and schools ransom.
Many of the provinces had indicated that they were not at full delivery.
Delivery was expected to continue in the next coming. This was unacceptable
because the first months of the year were very important. Delivery was also
about sending a message to children about how the education system regarded
them. A good textbook could certainly help a learner overcome any limitation
that the teacher might have.
In respect to the Grade R classes, Dr Hindle said that it was not like the
Department was pushing that the Grade R should be in primary schools. It still
favoured community-based sites. Many community-based sites offered better
quality Grade R than primary schools. Schools were not designed with the Grade
R in mind. They often found small back rooms and used them as Grade R
classrooms. One could not put children in classrooms with bare walls. Grade R
classroom should be fun and exiting with colourful pictures. Attention was
being given to the quality of Grade R. More children were getting access to
Grade R classes but the quality of the learning experience left much to be desired.
He took the Committee's comments on the issue of flags. The Department of Arts
and Culture had the money for flags. The Department would look at the provision
of flags to members but there should be some register in place. There was
evidence that some schools had as many as three flags but had none at the
moment. One would be told that a teacher had taken a flag to a sports meeting
and that it could not be traced. Schools should be held accountable for the
flags.
Ms Masilo said that part of the North West province was the former
Bophuthatswana area. There were buildings for Grade R classes and qualified
teachers paid by the government. The buildings were built by the community and
had pictures but were now empty. There were problems in the area at the moment.
The Chairperson said that Grade R was not provided for in terms of salaries.
Teachers in those classes were given stipends. They were paid R1000. He
wondered if it was not possible to regard them as teachers because they were a
permanent feature of the system. This would ensure some stability. At the
moment such teachers were only there until such time they got employment
elsewhere.
Dr Hindle replied that children were not to supposed to be moved from viable
community sites. The Grade R funding norms dealt with issues raised by the
Chairperson. The Department was looking at a subsidy approach whereby a school
would get a subsidy to manage its Grade R. The subsidy did not allow for a full
teacher salary. The difficulty was that a full enrolment in Grade R would mean
an extra million children, 40 000 classrooms and 40 000 teachers. The system
did not have the capacity to deal with such a situation. The Department had
made an allowance for qualifications of Grade R teachers. It was a complex
process and the first imperative was access and trying to make resources
available.
Mr Sulliman asked if there was no system that could be used to inform suppliers
of what schools would need in the coming year. It seemed that there was a
communication gap.
The DG replied that the Department was moving towards such a system. One had to
be carefully when saying that the textbook catalogue would ensure uniformity.
The catalogue did not prescribe the book that should be used for a particular
subject. It only provided a list of books that were available for Grade 10 and
it was a wide catalogue. Schools placed their orders on time and sometimes
publishers worked overtime in order to publish them. However, they sometimes
compare orders made by provinces and prioritise big orders. The catalogue would
be trimmed down as time goes on.
Ms H Lamoela (DA) [Western Cape] asked if it was possible for Department to
publish the catalogue.
The DG replied that publishers had immediate access to the catalogue but never
knew how many of a particular book would be ordered. The Northern Cape could
submit its order in October but the publisher would still wait for Limpopo,
Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal so that they could do them all at once.
Ms Lamoela focussed on special needs school. The Committee had discovered
tremendous problems in Mpumalanga during its visit to the province. The MEC was
not even aware of the programme to be followed in special needs schools. She
asked who monitored and how well monitored was the programme. She also asked
who monitored the time spent on assisting teachers with their schooling
problems. The Department and the MECs were always there whenever there were
problems. The problem was that nobody was there when everything seemed to have
calmed down. Failure to attend to teachers' problem could be one of the reasons
why some schools under performed. The catalogue of Grade 11 textbooks would
ensure uniformity in schools. She asked if schools would still be allowed to
buy from the supplier of their choice.
Dr Hindle replied that the concerns around special needs schools well
recognised and the Minister had made them a priority for the next financial
year. There was a much more closer monitoring of the situation. The difficulty
was that most of the work was funded by international donors, largely the
Swedes and the Finish. The allocation for special needs schools in provincial
education budgets was very minimal if it existed at all. It was about public
mobilisation and this was a sector of education that was hidden and not raising
its voice as much as it should. More attention and resources were needed. There
were curriculum guidelines and Department would ensure that the MECs and people
had access to them. Schools would still be able to buy books from their suppliers
of choice.
On the issue of support to schools, he said that districts were there to making
schools function better. Good districts tended to have good schools. The
Department was working closely with districts to ensure that they played their
support role. There were 114 schools in the previous year than had achieved a
less than 20% pass rate in matric. Nine of those schools broke out of the below
20% category and seven of them moved to above 80%. None of those schools had
received extra money or teachers. All that they had received was more attention
from the department, provinces and districts. They were monitored, supported
and held accountable. There evidence was there that such interventions worked.
By contrast, some 200 schools who were over above 20% slipped down because did
not get the required attention. This should not have happened because districts
should have sat down with problematic schools by May or June. A districts
colloquium was convened late last year where all the responsibilities of
districts were outlined. It was agreed that all district managers would be
convened early this year following the publishing of the matric results.
He said that the word district meant different things across the provinces.
Some districts had 20 schools. The manager of such a district should know about
each school and be held accountable. He or she should be visiting each school
once a month. Some districts had close to 200 schools and a manager could not
be blamed for not having visited some of them. It was important to define
districts and give them resources to enable them to do their work. One could
find a manager working from the back of his car because he had no office and no
phone. Some districts also did not have computers and electricity. There was
also the attitude problem in some of the districts and some managers were very
arrogant. It was important for district managers to understand that they worked
for schools and were below the level of principals. Some principals were being
paid more than district managers and this made managers very uncomfortable.
Schools were the point of delivery and the work of districts and departments
was about supporting them. The Department had set up an under performing
schools unit to which people would be appointed to work with the 200 under
performing schools. The intention was to get those schools out of that category
and to ensure that no new schools slipped into that category.
Ms N Madlala-Magubane said that the Department had referred to the revision of
no fee schools legislation. She asked how soon the legislation would come to
Parliament because there was confusion in schools. Not all schools were happy.
Some were claiming that some kids could not afford to pay fees but it was
compulsory for them to pay. During its oversight visits the Committee had found
that there was a lot of useless and incapacitated principals. Matric results
were not good and some principal were hopeless. She asked what the Department
was intending to do about this. Former Model C schools in her constituency
needed flags. The flags were in the past available in Parliament but it was now
difficult to get them.
Dr Hindle replied that the no fees schools legislation was in place. The
legislation outlawed compulsory fees but did not take away the right to collect
voluntary fees. Many schools were still collecting fees on a voluntary basis.
No child should be excluded from school due to none payment of fees. Schools
got their allocation from provinces around February and March. Schools were
normally helped by schools fees in the first months of the year until they
received their allocations from the province. This year they had a cash flow
problem but they would get their allocations. The allocation would be more than
what the schools had ever collected. The government was giving about R530 to
each and every learner. Fees were nowhere R500 in the no fees schools.
Hopefully schools would have petty cash to get going them from day one in the
coming years.
Mr J Thlagale (UCDP) [North West] also focussed on the no fee schools. The
Committee had visited a Free State primary school and found that it was losing
learners. Almost a third of the learners had moved to no fee school. He asked
what the Department was doing to resolve situations of that nature.
Dr Hindle replied that it was wonderful that pupils were moving from schools
that charged fees to no fees schools in the Free State. Such movement was
confirming what should be happening. More and more schools should be no fees
schools. No fees schools should not become second-class schools in which people
did not want to go. They should be quality schools that charged no fees. The
more complex issue was around zoning. One would find that a school that was
full last year was now empty largely because of poor results that they had
achieved in the past year. One could find that there were learners under trees
in a school whereas there was an empty school somewhere nearby. It was a
planning problem and any zoning would just be unacceptable. There was a need to
recognise that uncontrolled movement was a problem in the system. The
Department had explored solutions like saying that a learner should not be able
to move from one school to another unless he had moved residence to the area in
which the school was located. The truth was that people moved across and within
provinces. Learners also moved schools within suburbs every year. Some
provinces were using mobile classrooms. They would move a class to a school
because of high growth in the school. The growth could be gone in the next year
and the classroom would have to follow the learners. This was not the right
approach and there was no easy approach. The movement from one province to
another was causing problems in the receiving provinces.
Ms J Vilakazi (IFP) [KwaZulu-Natal] gave an example of a child from a poor
family getting get very good matric results. One might find that such a child
had no father and the mother was unemployed. There were problems when such a
student applied for assistance from the National Student Financial Aid Scheme
(NSFAS). The mother of the child would be required to raise an amount of R2000
despite her being unemployed. She asked how such a person could be expected to
raise the money. She wondered what the Department was doing about this because
it was a crisis.
Dr Hindle replied that the NSFAS regulations were very clear. The university
had no right to charge a deposit. The Department would distribute pamphlets to
members so that they would know what was acceptable.
Mr Tolo said that the Minister had spoken to universities about registration
fees.
The DG replied that the Department had bursaries available to deserving
learners. Telkom had given ten bursaries to the Minister. He appealed to the
Committee to forward any case of a deserving student (preferably with maths and
science) who had been excluded from tertiary education due to lack of funds to
the Department. The Department would give out 120 million this year in teacher
bursaries. It was more generous than NSFAS because the recipients would not
have to pay the money back but work for the Department. The bursaries provided
money for fees, books and living expenses. There were also very generous
bursaries for studying at FET colleges. Some of the urban colleges were over
subscribed. Some of the rural colleges had not yet had a full take up of
bursaries.
Mr M Thetjeng (DA) [Limpopo) asked what criteria was used to determine the no
fee schools. He had been told that the determination was based on some
information supplied by Statistics South Africa. He had been tracking the
delivery of Grade 10 and 11 books. Not all of the materials had been delivered
by yesterday. A teacher from one school had told him that, for maths and
science, three children were sharing a book. One might find that people who
were supposed to deliver books had no capacity. All children were supposed to
have books by now. His nephew did not have a maths book and he could not get it
in bookshops
Dr Hindle replied that the same criteria for putting schools in quintiles was
used in relation to no fee schools. The criteria were spelled out in the norms
and standards for school funding. The criteria was broadly based on census data
and had to do with areas in which schools were located. Poor areas tended to
have poor schools but this was not automatic and provinces had to exercise
their discretion. Many former privileged schools had taken on a number of poor
learners and this had changed their situation. One school had to come down
every time a school moved a quintile up. No school wanted to move up because
they would receive less money. Overall, it was the quintile 1 and 2 that were
no fees schools.
The Chairperson said that the Department had spent up to R14 billion on
education. The central issue was value for money especially when looking at the
matric results. The outcome was not equal to the money put in. South Africa was
performing far lower than countries that were poorer (Malawi). There was very
little monitoring done by districts on schools. Laws were passed but not
implemented by schools. Parliament had amended the South African Schools Act
(SASA). The budget of a school should be available for inspection at least 14
days before a meeting but most schools that he had visited had not complied with
this requirement.
The Act provided that schools could not charge extra fees during the course of
the year once the school fees had been determined. However, this was rampant in
schools. It seemed as if the very monitors needed to be monitored because they
were not doing their job. It seemed that they sometimes gave false reports to
the Department. There was the phenomenon of multi grades in one classroom in
farm schools. There would be one teacher who taught three different grades in
one classroom. This was a big challenge. Provinces would always say that there
was a national law in terms of the provision of teachers and that they had to
work in accordance with the law. One could not have situation where one size
shoe fitted all. He asked if the Department could not look into the possibility
of provisioning for them differently and give them more teachers.
He said that he had listen to some debate on mother tongue education. It was
said that there were no more people who wrote books in African languages because
there was no readership. The process should to start at schools where learners
should be encouraged to read in their own languages. He said that during his
schooling days learners were forced to read a number of books in different
languages and summarise them by the end of the year. This was a good system of
encouraging learners to read. The Department was providing books to schools but
there was nothing that encouraged learners to read them.
The Chairperson said that there was a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between
the Department and Sports and Recreation South Africa (SRSA). During the
Committee’s engagements with SRSA on the MOU, it was said that the Department
of Education was not coming to the party. Competitive sports were supposed to be
the responsibility of SRSA and mass sports the responsibility of the Department
of Education. It did not look like the Department was budgeting for mass
sports. He had thought that the positions of ABET teachers would have made
permanent by now. The Department wanted to attract good quality teachers for
that level. There should be a salary in order to attract the relevant skills.
The teachers were given a stipend. One could not enter into a contract or do
proper planning or budgeting on the basis of a stipend.
Dr Hindle agreed that a salary would be desirable. One of the problem with ABET
was the extreme unpredictability of student numbers. One could start the year
with 100 learners but be down to 20 by March. People dropped out and this was
an international phenomenon in ABET. One could employ one of two teachers but
the question would be how one could keep paying teachers throughout the year
whilst there were very few learners. This issue had been raised a number of
times and the Department was trying to bring some stability into it. The
Department would love to have some permanent staff especially in those centres
where there was stability and predictability in terms of student numbers. A
certain number of the teachers would have to be on contract given the nature of
the sector.
He disagreed that the Department was not coming to the party in relation to the
MOU with SRSA. The Department had extensive programmes in this regard. The
issue of mother tongue language was complicated. The Department provided books
to schools. One of the challenges was to find descent reading books in some
African languages. Publishers had said that they were not producing such books
because departments were not buying them. The Department had bought a lot of
such books last year thinking that a lot more would be available this year but
this was not the case. The Department had recently published a reading toolkit
that gave more directions to teachers.
The DG reminded the Committee that the Department was in court last week in
relation to the Ermelo case. A half empty Afrikaans school was saying that it
could not accommodate other learners unless they were prepared to learn in
Afrikaans. The court had ruled in the school’s favour and the Department was
reviewing the case. It seemed that people were using the promotion of home
language to protect something else. The school could have more learners if it
was not for its stance. There was the danger that the Department could be
accused of having closed an Afrikaans school. It was not the Department that
was closing it down but the Afrikaans parents who did not want to send their
children to that school. The Western Cape was proposing to prescribe that every
child would study in their medium of their language up to grade six. This could
work in the Western Cape because they would probably use Afrikaans, English and
Xhosa. How could one prescribe in Gauteng where one could find all 11 official
languages in the same area?
Dr Hindle said that some of the farm schools were not viable and expensive to
run. The Free State and North West provinces were consolidating such schools
into boarding schools in town. For instance, they would bring all learners from
different schools to one school. The Department had visited one such school and
the learners were proud of their boarding school. They were given meals each
day and their work was supervised. The Minister was keen to establish a
national fund of some sorts where an exception to the rule in relation to the
funding of schools would apply. At the moment the Department was not allowed to
spend on schools in terms of the Division of Revenue Act. It could be able to
assist if it had a fund of some sort.
He said that the R14 billion was just what the national Department had received
and a large amount had gone to tertiary institutions. The whole country spent
over R90 billion on education and the question of value for money became more
complicated. The model that the Department was using gave lot of choices to
parents, learners and teachers. Many systems that were performing better than
South Africa were more prescriptive. They prescribed the school that a learner
should attend, books to be read and the medium of instruction. SA did not want
to go down that route. Cuba, for instance, was prescriptive and teachers had no
choice on where to teach. Learners were expected to attend the school nearest
to them. A political balance had to be found on how far to prescribe in order
to get the required quality. There was no way that SA would want to be authoritarian.
The Human Rights Commission was given R70 million by the Dutch to conduct
research on issues of quality.
Ms Lamoela asked if the schools health project that was launched in the Eastern
Cape would be rolled out to other provinces.
Dr Hindle replied that the project was a pilot. He was of the view that it
would be rolled out to other provinces.
The Chairperson said that there were instances wherein one could find a school
not giving tablets to a sick learner. They would say that policies did not
allow them to give out medicines to learners.
Dr Hindle said that teachers were not trained to be doctors but teachers. Even
the de-worming of children at school was done by the Department of Health.
The meeting was adjourned.
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