Role of Leader of Opposition; response to Public submissions on Constitutional Amendments
Constitutional Review Committee
20 October 2006
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JOINT
CONSTITUTIONAL REVIEW COMMITTEE
20 October 2006
ROLE OF LEADER OF OPPOSITION; RESPONSE TO PUBLIC SUBMISSIONS ON CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENTS
Chairperson: Dr E
Schoeman (ANC)
Documents handed out:
Parliament Legal Services response to public
submissions on Constitutional amendments
IDASA submission on
floor crossing to Joint Constitutional Review Committee
SUMMARY
The Chair noted that the poor attendance by Joint Committee members was
unsatisfactory. At a previous committee meeting, it had been recommended that
smaller parties get together to submit a proposal on specifying more clearly
the role of the Leader of the Opposition. No smaller parties were present at
the meeting and no proposal had been submitted. As the matter had been dragging
for nearly a year and it was important for the Committee to reach a consensus
decision on it, a
deadline for a proposal by smaller opposition parties was set for 27 October
2006.
The Committee heard legal opinion by parliamentary legal advisors on
submissions made by the public in response to an advertisement for public
proposals for changes to the Constitution.
MINUTES
Role of Leader of Opposition
Dr J Delport (DA) suggested that the discussion on the Role of the
Leader of the Opposition be struck from the committee agenda until the proposal
by the smaller opposition parties is received.
This stemmed from a decision at a previous committee meeting for smaller
opposition parties to present a proposal on the position of the leader of
opposition.
Adv T Masutha (ANC) replied that the matter should not be struck from the
agenda as it was not just a matter concerning opposition parties. He felt that
the Committee had an obligation to apply its mind to the matter. What were the
circumstances that led to the notion of specifying the role of the opposition
leader in the Constitution? When researching
the methods of established democracies such as that of the United Kingdom, it
must be understood that the multi-party system in the UK had only two to three
parties. This Committee must also investigate models from other Commonwealth
countries.
The Chair pointed out that Advocate F Jenkins of Parliament's Legal Services
had completed a comparative study of other Commonwealth countries. To his
knowledge, only New Guinea specified the role of the opposition leader in its
constitution.
Adv F Jenkins replied that it was very seldom that one found this kind of
protection in a constitution. It was covered in Section 178 of our
Constitution. He explained that it was a policy issue and that the Rules
Committee should look at this matter. It was also a constitutional matter that
requires a two thirds majority vote which smaller parties do not have.
Mr L Joubert (DA) asked why this had been inserted into the Constitution?
Dr Delport replied that the idea had come about at the Kempton Park
negotiations when the country had a National Unity government system.
Adv A Gaum (ANC) commented that the smaller parties
must forward a proposal so the merits of the case could be discussed.
The Chair felt it was important for the Committee to reach consensus on the
matter. A deadline for a proposal by smaller parties was set for Friday 27
October 2006.
Mr W Watson (DA) noted that this matter had been going for a year and must be
finalised.
Adv Masutha clarified that first there was the issue of where the notion had
originated. The second issue was the injunction in Section 57 of the
Constitution. This Committee must look at the terms of reference from the Rules
Committee. He cautioned that this Committee might be over-extending its
mandate. He noted that it was the responsibility of the Committee to give full effect
to the spirit of our Constitution. He asked what was the exact content of the right? This Committee had a constitutional mandate to review
the Constitution. It must also establish how this notion advanced multi-party
democracy.
The Chair explained that he had received a letter from the Joint Rules
Committee for this Committee to investigate the notion and smaller parties must
be given the opportunity to state their case. Next Friday the Committee would
make a decision.
Adv Masutha made a procedural point by requesting that the Committee
short-circuit the process by consulting with the public.
The Chair replied that the Committee did not have the budget for public
consultation but that this could be debated soon.
Public submissions regarding proposed changes to Constitution: Response
by parliamentary legal team as to the merits of submissions received
Advocate M Vassen from Parliament's Legal Services took the Committee
through the legal opinions prepared in response to each public submission.
Response to the Catholic Institution of Education (CIE)
The Chair noted that all committee members agreed with Adv Vassen‘s view
that ‘the petitioner incorrectly interpreted section 214(2)’. An amendment to
section 100 was a matter of policy and therefore extended beyond the mandate of
the Committee.
Response to Rand Water
The Chair confirmed that the proposal submitted by Rand Water was already
captured in various sections of the Labour Relations Act.
Response to Mothuloe Attorneys, Notaries and Conveyancers
Adv Vassen explained that the issues in this submission extended beyond the
mandate of this committee and may be referred to the Portfolio Committee on
Justice and Constitutional Development.
Response to S Makoena
Adv Vassen explained that this submission dealt with the function of the Public
Protector and expanding the role of the Public Protector. He also noted that
this submission was far too broad and placed too much responsibility on the
Public Protector. International best practices have been followed. The document
as a whole dealt with Chapter 9 institutions and must be referred to the Ad Hoc
Committee on the Review of the Chapter 9 Institutions.
The Chair commented that this Committee must not seem to be passing the buck.
However, many of the submissions dealt with Chapter 9 institutions.
Response to Mr J H Fourie
The Chair explained that remedial action could not be avoided.
Response to the South African Human Rights Commission
Adv Vassen explained that the rights of people with disabilities is not
within the scope of this Committee or the Ad Hoc Committee on the Review of the
Chapter 9 Institutions as this issue was a matter of policy. The Joint
Monitoring Committee on Youth, Children and People with Disabilities was a more
appropriate body for this matter.
The Committee recommended that the matter be referred to that committee
Response to Mr T M Motsoeneng
The Chair commented that the submission proposed
that the President be directly elected by the people and not by the National
Assembly. Not within the scope of this committee.
Response to the Commission on Gender Equality
Adv Vassen commented that this submission was beyond the scope of this
meeting. This was an issue of gender mainstreaming and was a policy issue
stating that gender issues are not separate.
Response to IDASA
Adv Jenkins explained that the issue of floor-crossing was a matter of
policy and that Mr J
van der Merwe's (IFP) Memorandum and proposed Constitution Fifteenth Amendment
Bill, a private member’s legislative proposal concerning floor-crossing,
had been referred to the Standing Committee on Private Members’ Legislative
Proposals and Special Petitions by the Speaker.
Response to Free State Legislature
Adv Jenkins commented that there were merits to this submission. The
current formula was one seat for every 100 000. This formula allowed for
representation.
The Chair recommended that a letter be written to all provinces to invite them
to make inputs.
Response to Learners from Hendrik Verwoed High School
Adv Vassen explained that only the Public Protector had to be accessible in
terms of the Constitution.
The Chair recommended that the matter be referred to the Ad Hoc Committee on
the Review of the Chapter 9 Institutions. He affirmed that Chapter 9
institutions should be accessible to the public. Children’s rights were a
priority. Race and gender had to be considered. He suggested that the Committee
report back to the school to inform them that their submission did not deal
with constitutional issues.
The meeting was adjourned.
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