Gender Equality and Violence Against Women
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IMPROVEMENT
OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND STATUS OF WOMEN JOINT MONITORING COMMITTEE
25 August 2006
GENDER EQUALITY AND VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN
Chairperson: Ms M
Morutoa (ANC)
Relevant documents:
Department
of Health submission
Tshwarang Legal
Advocacy Centre submission
Department of Land
Affair presentation
Department
of Justice & Constitutional Affairs presentation
SUMMARY
The Committee met
with the Departments of Justice, Health and Land Affairs and the National
Prosecuting Authority to discuss the implementation of gender equality in their
departments and their work, and to hear how the Promotion of Equality Act and
the Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act were being interpreted and
implemented. Each Department and the Authority advised the Committee of the
progress made and challenges to achieving gender representivity within their
own organizations as well as the challenges to the efficient implementation and
streamlining of gender focused programmes.
Common challenges highlighted by these public institutions included the lack of
critical skills and training needed to implement policies and programmes,
insufficient representation of women in senior and management positions.
Concerns were raised over the differences between rural and urban women and
communities. Each presenter acknowledged the need for improved service to enhance
the status of women in society.
General questions by members to all Departments related to their activity in
rural areas, their internal human resource disability and gender component, and
their contribution to curbing gender based violence. Specific questions put to
the Department of Justice addressed numbers of males being victims of and
reporting domestic violence, languages used in outreach programmes, lack of
sensitivity by police investigators, lack of women in many positions and the
relationship with traditional leaders. Questions were put to the National
Prosecuting Authority on the educational campaigns, the effective management of
gender based violence, and the Sexual Offences Courts. Members expressed their
concern to the Department of Land Affairs that many policies had not yet been
implemented and staff not yet dedicated. Questions were asked on the grants and
credit system, the success of the public awareness campaigns, evictions of
women and children, the land restitution process and the relationship with
traditional leaders. Questions were put to the Department of Health on the
budget and unfilled posts, promotion of the female condom, maternal deaths, and
women’s access to testing.
MINUTES
Challenges faced to gender equality: Presentation by the Chief Magistrate of
the Limpopo Province
Ms Molamu, (Chief magistrate: Limpopo
province) highlighted the challenges the judiciary faced in its drive to
achieve gender equity. There had been a steady increase in the appointment of
women, especially in senior positions of the magistracy. Three out of seven
Regional Court presidents were women, 72 out of 307 Regional Magistrates were
women. She expressed her concerns over the composition of regional magistrates
as these courts tried sexual offences.
She highlighted that most women were not willing to work in mostly rural areas.
Two senior positions had remained vacant for the past two years as women were
unwilling to work in certain areas. Rural areas were of particular concern as
most women residing there were not aware of their rights. The presence of women
judicial officers would contribute to the empowerment of women.
The Magistrates’ Commission had taken strides to train women of all ranks in
issues regarding management and leadership. A training programme called the
‘Jurisprudence of Equality’ training aimed at empowering women to apply
international conventions in cases appearing before them, specifically those
relating to sexual offences and domestic violence. The launch of the
International Association of Women Judges in 2004 established a mentoring
programme between judicial officers of the High Court and the lower courts.
Training was also provided to make judicial officers aware of the social
contexts in which courts operated. This would ensure that judicial officers
made socially contextualised decisions that were specific to communities that
they served. This was particularly important in rural areas where people were
not knowledgeable about their rights.
Assessors would also be used in courts to ensure greater community involvement
in the judicial process. Women had to be encouraged also to participate in this
process as most cases tried in courts impacted on the lives of women.
Discussion
Ms B Ngcobo (ANC) said that there were many
rural areas in the Limpopo province. She asked whether the Department of
Justice had any incentive programmes in place in order to ensure that
magistrates and prosecutors were present in rural areas.
Ms Mulamo said that there was no policy within the Department at this stage,
but that this was a possibility that should be further explored. The lower
court management committee would try to develop a proposal to promote this
issue.
The Chairperson asked what measures magistrates were taking to ensure that men
who were exploited by their partners also reported incidents of domestic
violence. This often did not happen as men tended to be shy and did not like to
be seen as weak.
Ms Mulamo acknowledged that this was a serious challenge. Women were the major
targets in public awareness campaigns. The Department of Justice made efforts
to ensure that programmes were gender sensitive and anti–violence rather than
specifically focused on women. The involvement of male counterparts of the
judiciary was critical to ensure that men commited themselves to the fight
against domestic violence and sexual offences as well as to develop male
confidence in the system.
Ms Ngcobo asked whether the department’s planned community outreach programmes
were sensitive to the local languages and whether the language issue was
considered when the accessibility of offices and completion of forms were
considered.
Ms Mulamo acknowledged that language posed a challenge. However, in most
magistrates’ courts the main languages of the community in that jurisdiction
were often represented. People of all races and languages were able to access
the services of the judiciary. The use of interpreters was common practice.
Members of the public were thus able to speak in their most known language.
Ms Ngcobo raised her concerns that the lack of sensitivity of police deterred
men from reporting acts of domestic violence against them. She suggested that
there was a need to train the police officers on the sensitivities of gender
and domestic violence to ensure that men felt comfortable to report incidences
of domestic violence against them.
Ms Mulamo said that the Department of Justice were involved in the training of
police officers. She had also been involved in the training of police offices
across a range of provinces. Justice College was available to train police
officers in the social context in which they serve.
Ms D Morobi (ANC) asked what the reasons could
be for the lack of representation of women in certain positions.
Ms Mulamo said that she did not know the reasons. The vacant positions
available within the higher positions were quite limited. The appointment of
women to these positions would take time.
Ms M Meruti (ANC) said that women in the past
had often withdrawn cases of domestic violence due to their financial
dependence on their husbands, and enquired whether this was still the case.
Ms Mulamo said that the judiciary had to empower women regarding their rights.
Dependency and the lack of support systems in the forms of shelters and halfway
houses made it difficult for women to report domestic violence. If resources
were in place to assist women to continue with their lives, women had no need
to fear the report of domestic violence. There were too many counter
applications against protection orders, and these should be considered during
the next hearing. The withdrawal of cases would be a reality for as long as
women were financially dependent on their male counterparts.
Ms Ngcobo asked whether the department had to deal with cases where the
Equality Act had not been implemented.
Ms Mulamo said that since her appointment last year, there had been no cases
under this Act. There were ongoing cases in Cape Town, Port Elizabeth where one
of the white male magistrates had challenged the appointment criteria used by
the Magistrates’ Commission in respect of Regional Court appointments.
The Chairperson expressed her concerns regarding the term ‘judicial discretion’
and asked what would constitute an interference in this discretion. She felt
that this could become problematic in the implementation of the sexual offences
legislation.
Ms Mulamo answered that the term meant that a Chief Magistrate or any other
judicial officer, could not challenge the correctness of the decisions made by
a magistrate. A High Court process would have to be used for cases where the
evidence showed that a magistrate had committed a ‘gross irregularity in terms
of procedure’.
Ms Ngcobo asked whether women were more comfortable with reporting incidences
of domestic violence.
Ms Mulamo responded that more women were talking about domestic violence, owing
to the awareness campaigns of the Department of Justice. Female magistrates
were also contributing to the creation of an atmosphere where the public would
be more willing to report and follow through matters.
The Chairperson expressed her concerns that women magistrates were not willing
to work in rural areas. She asked if the judiciary had a long term strategy in
place to deal with this unwillingness. Related to this, she asked what strides
were being made to empower rural populations, especially women, and how this
compared to other countries.
Ms Mulamo replied that an incentive should be introduced. She said that South
Africans should be proud to serve any community. This should be instilled in
every one and should perhaps start at university level.
Ms Morobi asked about the challenges experienced in dealing with Equality
Courts since the establishment of the Equality Act.
Ms Mulamo replied that she was not aware of any challenges to the Equality
legislation because she had not yet had the opportunity to engage and apply the
legislation. She was receiving ongoing training by the Justice College as part
of empowering magistrates to deal with it. There was a greater need for public
awareness regarding Equality Act.
Ms Meruti expressed her concerns over the low representation of women in the
judiciary. It was essential that women should be appointed to assist women in
the rural areas as well as to encourage younger women to join the prosecuting
profession. Bursaries should also be made available for these women.
Ms Mulamo admitted that the appointment of women was a challenge. There were a
limited number of positions available and these positions were occupied by men
not yet near the retirement age. There was a steady increase in appointments.
The Chairperson asked what the relationship was between the pubic awareness
programmes and the House of Traditional Leaders.
Ms Mulamo said that she had the opportunity to be involved in the training of
Traditional Leaders. Magistrates in Limpopo province were encouraged and
trained to engage Traditional Leaders to address and alleviate case backlogs.
Petty cases should be dealt with through traditional courts, as well as appeals
from traditional courts.
Ms Meruti asked how many disabled women were on the staff of the justice
department. She also asked now many courts had disabled access.
Ms Mulamo admitted that most courts were still not compliant. The Department of
Justice had employed a black African disabled woman but her office was
currently not yet accessible. There were only two disabled magistrates.
Progress on achieving gender equality: Presentation by the National
Prosecuting Authority
Ms B Pithey, (Senior Advocate: Sexual
Offences and Community Affairs Unit, National Prosecuting Authority(NPA))
outlined the progress made to achieve gender equity. She said that that
statistics regarding the gender composition of the NPA would be made available
once approved by the national director. The NPA had a very clear commitment
regarding gender equality expressed in its policies and within the various
gender-focused programmes. The establishment of the Sexual Offences and
Community Affairs Unit to specifically address issues of gender also indicated
that commitment. This Unit focused on sexual offences, domestic violence, and
maintenance and child justice. She said that the NPA considered children,
especially the girl-child, and women to be particularly vulnerable groups.
A core focus point of the NPA was the training of prosecutors around
sensitivity issues and social context training. The training not only focused
on gender based violence, but the role of women in society, the dynamics around
gender, race and class and how these manifested themselves through the criminal
justice system.
The NPA highlighted its important projects. These included the Serurubele
Programme (Butterfly) which was symbolic of the detailed transformation of the
organization. The NPA would move away from a criminal justice focus to a
customer focus. Customers included victims, complainants, departments of the
criminal justice system and any other organizations.
The rollout of Sexual Offences Courts had helped to address the secondary
victimization of victims (by the criminal justice system). The courts used
specially trained prosecutors, and there were waiting rooms, and
victim-friendly spaces.
The NPA had created the Ntuthuzelo Care Centres, which were a collaborative
effort with the Department of Health. They operated from one-stop health care
centres, where a victim of a sexual offence would have access to and care from
health care workers, police and social workers. These centres would have a
clear link to prosecution services. They aimed to increase the finalization of
cases, decrease secondary victimization, and increase conviction rates. There
were currently ten centres around the country, and would increase to 80 around
the country.
The NPA was very actively involved in public awareness campaigns. These
included the ‘Adopt-a-School’ project for prosecutors, and the ‘Speak Out’
Campaigns concentrated at about 450 schools through out the country.
Discussion
Ms Ngcobo (ANC) asked to what extent the work of the National Prosecuting
Authority (NPA) was popularised.
Ms Pithey replied that the popularisation of programmes was hampered by the
limited capacity of the organization. The NPA had reached roughly 500 000
people through adult workshops and 336 000 learners in across 450 schools
nation-wide over the last two years. Written materials were also distributed
through schools that were a key place of intervention.
Ms Ngcobo asked how effectively gender based violence was managed by the state.
Ms Pithey explained that the NPA and the criminal justice system lacked
credibility. People were still reluctant to utilise the criminal justice system
for a number of reasons. There was a concern that victims, especially of
sexually based violence, would suffer humiliation and secondary victimization
from public institutions, including the judiciary.
The most significant manner of changing this perception was to improve service
delivery. This would be achieved through training and sensitising prosecutors
with programmes aimed at developing and building skills capacity. Prosecutors
of the Sexual Offences Courts were both working in and products of a society in
which the most horrific gender based violence occurred.
Additionally, the authority strove to bring justice to gender based violence.
The Sexual Offences Courts had a 20% higher conviction rate than cases of heard
in normal Regional Courts, and were therefore producing better results.
Ms Ngcobo (ANC) asked what the gender composition of the National Prosecuting
Authority was.
The Chairperson expressed her concern that statistics were not yet available
and asked if the audit had not yet been completed.
Ms Pithey responded that although statistics were available, she had not been
supplied with this information. However, NPA had a very clear gender breakdown
and the statistical research had been very clearly done. The NPA has a very
clearly directed recruitment and promotions policy regarding gender and
disability. About 48% of positions at NPA were occupied by women. However,
women were still inadequately represented in senior management level.
Ms Ngcobo (ANC) said that there had been complaints by victims of sexual crimes
regarding their treatment at the Sexual Offences Courts. She asked where they
were situated and how many had been established.
Ms Pithey conceded that the Sexual Offences Courts were not perfect
institutions. She expressed her dismay that victims had suffered any abuse and
assured the committee that these incidences would be investigated. The courts
should create an environment where the victims felt safer and more cared for. A
clear line of communication should be established between the Committee and the
NPA to ensure that these courts ran efficiently. The courts were situated in
both urban and rural areas, and most of the prosecutors were women. Many men
were reluctant to prosecute in these courts and women generally displayed a
deeper commitment to these issues. Unfortunately, there was a reluctance to
work in certain areas and thus there was a shortage of skilled prosecutors.
This work was highly difficult as prosecutors had to deal with sexually abused
children on a daily basis.
Ms Meruti asked where the Ntuthuzelo centres were based and whether they
extended to rural areas.
Ms Pithey responded that there were currently ten centres. The NPA tried to
balance the location of these areas but its choices were limited by their need
to be linked to courts. They were currently located in Mannenburg, Umthatha,
Lebode, Umlazi, Phoenix, Kimberley, Mafikeng, Baragwanath and Natalspruit.
The Chairperson asked which gender committed the most offences, and what was
done to ensure that they did not repeat their offences.
Ms Pithey answered that the majority of sexual violence offenders were men. Disturbingly,
the majority of offenders against youth were young boys. The NPA was committed
to active involvement in diversion programmes to ensure that crimes were not
repeated. Female offenders were mostly involved in petty crimes and fraud. She
could not supply the exact statistics now. Moreover, more men than women tended
to kill their partners than women.
Ms Ngcobo suggested a mentorship programme be instituted to ensure that the
skills of more experienced prosecutors were passed down to the younger prosecutors.
Ms Pithey explained that the existing mentoring programme, ‘Aspirant
Prosecutor’ and the recruitment drive at universities were aimed to ensure that
experienced prosecutors trained new members of the profession and to persuade
students to join the prosecuting profession. She added that all prosecutors
involved in the Sexual Offences Court had received the necessary additional
training.
Ms Ngcobo requested information regarding the Ntuthuzelo Care Centres in
Mpumalanga and Limpopo Provinces. The Committee would be visiting these
provinces soon and would like to meet with those involved in the centre.
Ms Pithey replied that these centres had not yet been established in Mpumalanga
and Limpopo. However she would supply the committee with a list of existing and
planned centres. She stressed that NPA would facilitate visitations to any of
these centres at any time.
Gender Equity: Presentation by the Department of Land Affairs:
Ms M Tong, (Chief Operations Officer,
Department of Land Affairs (DLA)) presented the Committee with the progress
made in ensuring equity between genders. She stated that important structural
challenges hampered the facilitation of a gender programme by the National DLA.
DLA lacked dedicated staff members to ensure the mainstreaming of gender
specific programmes. Moreover, land reform implementers lacked the necessary
gender skills. No clear gender specific education and information dissemination
mechanisms were in place.
Ms Tong highlighted the particular challenges faced by women. These included
their inability to access grants, and the lack of gender sensitive grants.
60.5% of the land grant beneficiaries were male and only 39.5% female. With
female headed households 84.8% of land grant beneficiaries were female (84.8%)
compared with 79.4% in male – headed households. Most provinces had more male
land grant beneficiaries than female.
The Department outlined its gender specific targets for 2006-2007. These
included the development of a gender checklist, the gender disaggregated data
on land reform implementation, the development of a Children’s Rights Framework
as well as four advocacy programmes within the department.
Women were represented in the decision making process of the department. There
were two out of four Deputy Director-Generals, 16 women in Director positions
and 157 in Deputy Director positions.
Discussion
The Chairperson asked whether DLA had the required gender unit in place.
Ms Tong replied that although the department had established this unit, it
suffered from a range of inadequacies. The unit was currently being
restructured and this would elevate the status of its Head to Director level so
as to ensure that gender issues would be directly considered on a policy level.
DLA was also working closely with the Office of the Status of Women in the
Presidency.
Ms X Makasi (ANC) commented that she could not
accept the challenges set out in the presentation. She asked why policies had
not been implemented, and why staff had not been dedicated to the issues. The
National department should be an example to its local and provincial
counterparts.
Mrs Ngcobo asked what the challenges were in accessing the agricultural grants
by women, and how DLA would ensure greater accessibility to these grants.
Ms Masilo asked whether the existing grant and credit system was viable as it
did not improve the chances of establishing a business.
Ms Tong confirmed that there were serious challenges in the rollout of grants
and that these would be reviewed.
Ms Morobi asked how successful the public awareness programmes had been.
Ms Tong replied that members should bear in mind that DLA was one component of
the Department of Land Affairs and Agriculture. She suggested that perhaps it
would have been better for the entire department to have given a joint
presentation as she would not be able to answer some of the questions.
However, she explained that the 2005 Land Summit had identified the problems
relating to the implementation of land reform strategies and also explored the
ways in which this process could be made more efficient. However the mandate of
the relevant Department at that time was to deliver land only. Other
departments were responsible for ensuring that land recipients received the
necessary technical and financial support to develop their land could be
developed. The summit had developed a number of a number of resolutions and
recommendations. Ventures emanating from it the Comprehensive Agricultural
Support Programme to provide agricultural support for new farmers, and the
credit system, Maeesa, which aimed to provide funding and credit to
specifically gender sensitive projects.
Ms Masilo asked what mechanisms were in place to protect women and children
from evictions.
Ms Tong suggested that legislation should provide for a class of non-evictable
persons. She admitted that evictions were a challenge.
Mrs Ngcobo said that the Department envisaged the finalizations of claims by
2008. However, many who had claimed land had not yet received acknowledgement
of their sclaim application.
Ms Makazi asked whether these individuals could claim their land again.
Ms Tong admitted that the deadline for land restitution processes needed to be
extended again. However, DLA was not able to change legislation itself. As the
right to land and land restitution was enshrined in the Bill of Rights, a 2/3
majority was needed to change the deadline. She said that politically there was
little support for this matter.
The Chairperson asked whether the House of Traditional Leaders had challenged
the land restitution process.
Ms Tong admitted that the land redistribution process challenged the status of
traditional leaders as the trustees of communal land. DLA had engaged directly
with individuals and communities, and this was perceived as a threat to the
status of traditional leaders. She said that in the former TBVC areas, some
traditional leaders had utilised the restitution to regain control of communal
land and control over their jurisdiction. This was a challenge to the correct
implementation of the land restitution policy.
Gender Equality: Presentation by the Department of Health
Ms Maluleke, (Director: Gender Focal
Points and Women’s Health Directorate, Department of Health (DOH)) highlighted
the ways in which DOH promoted gender equity through its activities and
programmes.
She presented the committee with an organogram of the recently restructured
Department, which highlighted that the Heads of the Gender Focal points had
been elevated to Director status. Moreover an additional R30 million would be
spent on specifically female targeted programmes. These programmes included the
termination of pregnancy services, maternal health care, nutritional, and child
and youth health programmes.
Ms Maluleke admitted that key challenges faced by the Department included the
lack of skilled nurses and other health care workers, lack of resources, and
improving the accessibility of Anti-retroviral drugs.
Discussion
Ms Masilo asked which provinces had not yet identified their focal points,
so that Members could assist in engaging their constituencies in order to
overcome challenges.
Ms Maluleke replied that all provinces had gender focal points and that all
positions had been filled. However, some appointments were hampered by the lack
of resources, which was still a major challenge faced by provinces.
Ms Masilo expressed her disapproval that budget remained unspent because posts
were still vacant. She said that these funds could not be rolled over to the
next financial year.
Ms Maluleke responded that although they were halfway through the financial
year, DOH’s budget for the creation of these posts had been approved only two
months ago.
Ms Masilo asked why the Department promoted the use of male condoms rather than
female ones, and asked if DOH shared the view that distribution and
manufacturing of the Femidom would be too expensive.
Ms Maluleke answered that the HIV/Aids research unit at DOH considered female
condoms to be highly expensive technologically.
Ms J Semple (DA) asked why a contradiction
existed between the number of women attending pre-natal programmes and the high
levels of maternal deaths.
Ms Maluleke said that the high levels of maternal deaths could be explained by
the lack of skilled nurses or health workers in hospitals and clinics. Measures
were needed to retain nurses in the country as well as to ensure that rural
communities had adequate health care workers.
Ms Semple (DA) said that she shared the enthusiasm of the Chairperson regarding
microbiocide research during a recent visit to
New York. She asked if DOH was involved in the development of this research?
Ms Maluleke replied that this research was very expensive, but that South
Africa, Brazil and India were included in the current clinical trials.
Ms Moruti expressed her concern over the shortage of both staff and medicines
in clinics and hospitals and asked how DOH was planning on coping with this
challenge.
Ms Morobe asked whether women still had access to pap smears.
Ms Maluleke answered that the accessibility to pap smears was part of the
Presidential programme entitled ‘Healthy Lifestyles’. This programme
mainstreamed gender based health care. During the Women’s Day celebrations at
the Union buildings, 600 women were tested for, among others, diabetes.
Ms Ngcobo asked what the contribution of DOH was in curbing gender based
violence.
Ms Maluleke said that DOH had partnered with other relevant departments
including Justice, Social Development and the National Prosecuting Authority to
provide health care services in initiatives such as the Ntutukele centres.
However she acknowledged that there was currently a need for more co-ordination
between the various departments as the process was too fragmented
The meeting was adjourned.
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