Adoption of Outstanding Minutes

Meeting report

Election of the Chairperson
Mr King Kunene, Committee Secretary, explained that the Chairperson was out of the country on an international trip and in terms of the rules of Parliament if the Chairperson was not present the Committee must elect an Acting Chairperson. He requested Members of the Committee to make their nominations for the election of an Acting Chairperson.

Ms N November (ANC) nominated the Chief Whip of the Committee, Mr X Mabasa (ANC) to be the Acting Chairperson of that meeting.

Mr H Kruger (DA) asked whether there were enough members to form a quorum for the meeting to take place.

Mr Kunene replied that the Committee did form a quorum, with the inclusion of Mr Khoza, who was a new Member.

Mr Mabasa added that Mr M Sibande (ANC) had been asked to join the meeting so as to complete the number required to form a quorum although he would not stay for the whole duration of the meeting.

Mr S Mncwabe (NFP) seconded the nomination of Mr Mabasa as the Acting Chairperson.

Mr Mabasa was duly elected as an Acting Chairperson for the meeting.

Welcome
The Chairperson said that the purpose of the meeting was to consider and adopt the outstanding minutes of the Committee. He welcomed Mr T Khoza (ANC) who was the new Members of the Committee representing the African National Congress. The Committee would gain a lot from Mr Khoza’s experience and knowledge. He thanked Mr Sibande for assisting the Committee in terms of the quorum.

Apologies
Mr Kunene read out apologies from Ms N Bhengu, the Committee Chairperson who was out of the country, Rev K Meshoe (ACDP), who indicated that he would not be available for the meeting, Mr T Ramokhoase (ANC), who was admitted for an eye operation, and Mr S Bekwa (ANC) who was also in hospital for a running stomach.

Mr Mncwabe extended an apology that he would be leaving the meeting at 11:00am due to other commitments.

Proposal to Postpone Meeting
Mr Kruger noted that there would not be any plenary sittings in the following week and only committee meetings would be scheduled in terms of the programme. He asked if Members would then be able to visit their constitutencies if there were no sittings.

The Chairperson sought clarity if Mr Kruger was proposing that the Committee should not schedule a meeting next week.

Mr Kruger said yes, that was his proposal.

The Chairperson said that the proposal would be noted. The management committee would deal with it after looking at other issues, and it would not be proper for the Committee to give an immediate response to that proposal. But in the mean time the Committee should move on the premise that it would meet next week. The proposal would be looked at carefully in consultation with the Chairperson of the Committee.

Aoption of Outstanding Minutes

Committee Minutes dated 25 February 2015
The Chairperson tabled the document for consideration. He indicated that the Committee woud go through it page-by-page and give their input where necessary.

The Chairperson said that the Committee Secretary should check whether the name of Mr Jeffry Ndumo has an “E” on Jeffry or not.

The Chairperson said that on page 3 under apologies with regard to the Minister and the Deputy Minister there was no need to write them as Members of Parliament.

Mr R Chance (DA) said that the Minister and the Deputy Minister became ministers by virtue of being MPs and therefore that title of MP was correct in that regard.

The Chairperson accepted this explanation.

Mr Chance noted that he had raised the issue contained in the resolutions and this should be reflected as such in the document.

Ms November replied that it was not necessary to mention a Member’s name in the minutes because as a Committee they dealt with issues collectively and it was the decision of the Committee that came up with that resolution although it was raised by Mr Chance.

Mr Mulaudzi recalled that in their previous meetings they always refer to the Committee when resolutions were made and there was no reference of who said what or who proposed what. Therefore, the Committee should stick to that way of doing things not and come up with new versions because that would destroy the purpose of the Committee.

Mr Mncwane agreed with Mr Mulaudzi that the Commitee should stick to this way of writing minutes and not write names of individual Members in the resolutions of the Committee.

The Chairperson said that the Committee should move with the premise that the collective made the resolutions and not individual Members of the Committee.

Ms November moved for the adoption of minutes with amendments

Mr Chance seconded the move.

The Committee adopted the minutes with amendments.

Minutes of 04 March 2015
The Chairperson tabled the document for consideration. He indicated that the Committee woud go through it page-by-page and give their input where necessary.

Mr Mncwabe complained that his name was not recorded in the minutes although he was present in the meeting.

The Chairperson said that the Committee Secretary should note and correct that omission.

Mr Mncwabe moved for the adoption of minutes.

Mr T Mulaudzi (EFF) seconded the move.

The Committee adopted the minutes with amendments.

Minutes of 11 March 2015
The Chairperson tabled the document for consideration. He indicated that the Committee woud go through it page-by-page and give their input where necessary.

The Committee was satisifed with the document.

Ms November moved for the adoption of minutes.

Mr Kruger seconded the move.

The Committee adopted the minutes wit no changes.

Minutes of 18 March 2015
The Chairperson tabled the document for consideration. He indicated that the Committee woud go through it page-by-page and give their input where necessary.

Mr Chance proposed that when the Committee invited guests to make presentations, it should ensure that the expectations of the Committee were clearly understood by the guests.

Mr Kruger emphasised that the proposal of Mr Chance was one of their resolutions as a Committee and it should be adopted as a resolution into the minutes.

Mr Chance moved for the adoption of the minutes.

Mr Kruger seconded the move.

The Committee adopted the minutes with amendments.

Matters Arising
Mr Chance suggested that the Committee should deal with the oversight report in its next meeting so that it could be adopted and tabled before the House.

The Chairperson said that will be noted and included in the agenda of the next meeting.

The meeting was adjourned.