PC Economic Development: Consideration of Outstanding Minutes

Economic Development

12 February 2013
Chairperson: Mr Z Ntuli (ANC) (Acting)
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Meeting Summary

The Committee met briefly to consider and adopt several outstanding minutes.
Members discussed and corrected the numerous grammatical, spelling, and content-related inaccuracies in the minutes. Ultimately, the Committee postponed the adoption of the reports because no quorum was reached.

Meeting report

Opening remarks
Mr Z Ntuli (ANC) opened the meeting on behalf of the Chairperson who was yet to arrive. He noted that there were six sets of minutes from 23 October 2012 to 29 January 2013 to go through. Members would be given time to peruse the reports so as to check for corrections before the Committee adopted them. He noted that there was no quorum and hence the Committee would make corrections but adoption would be made once quorum was reached otherwise, the adoption of reports would be deferred to a later date.

Minutes
The Acting Chairperson pointed out that there was no quorum hence the Committee should simply go over the minutes making the necessary corrections and return them to the Committee Secretary who would then make the appropriate amendments. The minutes could then be adopted later when there was a quorum. He noted that the normal procedure would be to go over each report singularly.

Some members were missing Committee Minutes dated 23 October 2012, so the Acting Chairperson announced that they would proceed and review Committee Minutes dated 30 October 2012, 06 November 2012, 13 November 2012, 20 November 2012, and 29 January 2012.

Committee Minutes dated 30 October 2012
The Acting Chairperson allowed the Members some time to go over the minutes of 30 October 2012. No Members noted any errors.

Committee Minutes dated 06 November 2012
The Acting Chairperson allowed the Members some time to go over the minutes of 06 November 2012. Members made spelling corrections to the document.

Committee Minutes dated 13 November 2012
The Acting Chairperson allowed the Members some time to go over the minutes of 13 November 2012. Members made no changes to the document.

Committee Minutes dated 20 November 2012
The Acting Chairperson allowed the Members some time to go over the minutes of 20 November 2012. Members made no changes to the document.

Committee Minutes dated 30 January 2013
Ms E Coleman (ANC) arrived and chaired the meeting from this point. She allowed the Members some time to go over the minutes.

Mr M Hlengwa (IFP) noted problems with some wording on the second page of the minutes.

Members discussed the use and meaning of “commission,” “policeman,” “prosecutor,” and “tribunal,” seeking to accurately capture the presenter’s intentions.

A Member noted that the use of “commission” was correct, but that the use of “policeman” was not. He then explained that a tribunal had the conscience of a court of law, whereas although a commission was independent, it played a more active role. He suggested using the term “prosecution” for improved clarity. He recalled that the presenter had emphasised the policing function of the commission. He referenced the act itself and reiterated that the commission was responsible for the investigation, control, and evaluation of certain practices.

All members agreed to the language changes and proceeded to review the third page.

Mr Ntuli stated that it was unlikely the Committee would have to correct grammar mistakes in the future. He stated that Members’ main business was to make resolutions and recommendations.

 A Member stated that the Committee had adopted the minutes dated 15 January 2013 on the previous day, but he had noticed a mistake on the second page. He noted that the final judgment was delivered on 9 October and not 9 March 2012 as the minutes suggested.

The Acting Chairperson asked how this mistake should be corrected, since it was made by the commission and not by the Committee.

Mr H Hoosan (ID) stated that the Committee minutes must reflect what was actually said in the presentation.

Mr X Mabasa (ANC) suggested that the Committee Secretary send an E-mail message to the Secretary of the Commission to correct the mistake.

All Members agreed to this plan.

The Acting Chairperson concluded that the Committee Secretary would clear up the confusion by referring back to the presentation and that the Committee Secretary would E-mail the Commission directly for clarification. He also reminded the Committee that once the quorum was reached, adoption of the minutes would commence.

The Acting Chairperson announced that the Committee minutes dated 23 October 2012 were now available.

Committee Minutes dated 23 October 2013
The Acting Chairperson allowed the Members some time to go over the minutes of 20 November 2012. Members made no changes to the document.

Mr Hlengwa expressed concern over the large number range used on page six, but no changes were made.

Mr Ntuli turned the meeting over to the Chairperson, Ms E Coleman, upon her arrival.

Mr Ntuli explained that in her absence, the Committee had made corrections, but did not adopt the documents because a quorum was not reached. He noted that Mr Hoosan and Mr Hlengwa needed to leave for other meetings and that it was unlikely quorum would be reached.

The Chairperson thanked Mr Ntuli for acting as the chairperson and it was agreed that the adoption would be deferred to a later date.

The meeting was adjourned.

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