Police Budgetary Review & Recommendation Report 2012 , Detective Dialogue Report

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23 October 2012
Chairperson: Ms A Van Wyk (ANC)
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Meeting Summary

The Committee met to consider the Draft Detective Dialogue Report, and Budgetary Review and Recommendations Report (BRRR) on the Department of Police for the financial year 2011/12.

In respect of the Draft Detective Dialogue Report, one Member raised some concerns but was assured that what he was questioning had in fact been said by the person concerned and was not reflected as a Committee recommendation. In respect of the BRRR, one Member raised concerns on stolen firearms, but this was an issue that would be canvassed further in strategic planning sessions. Both reports were adopted, with technical amendments.

The Committee adopted minutes of meetings held on 9, 10, 16, 17 and 18 October 2012. One set of minutes from 16 October would be adopted at the next meeting.


Meeting report

Chairperson’s opening remarks
The Acting Chairperson informed the Committee that a police officer at Mossel Bay had, after wounding others, shot himself. She said the Committee would have to set some time aside to discuss this issue.

Draft Detective Dialogue – Report on Proceedings
The Acting Chairperson tabled the Draft Detective Dialogue Report, following a meeting on 5 September 2012 that had collectively discussed challenges faced by the Detective Services within the South African Police Service (SAPS).

Mr M George (COPE) expressed his concern on one of the recommendations made by Kalyani Pillay, on page 28 of the Draft Report, that ‘Surveillance Teams must not be restricted to Crime Intelligence only’. He said that this was subject to abuse and had led to interference in peoples’ private lives.

The Acting Chairperson said that this was a recommendation made by Kalyani Pillay and it could not be taken as a recommendation by the Committee. The Committee was simply checking for the correctness of the Report.
The Committee checked the Report on Proceedings for correctness, and adopted it with minor corrections.

Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report of the Portfolio Committee on Police
Ms Nadia Dollie, Senior Researcher: Parliament of the Republic of South Africa outlined some of the highlights of the Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report (BRRR) of the Committee on Police, dated 19 October 2012 (see full report for all recommendations).

Ms Dollie said that the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) was still young and that it was not too late to ensure the internal transformation that was required to ensure fulfilment of its mandate effectively and efficiently.

Ms N Van Zyl-Gous, Parliamentary Researcher, gave an overview of the performance of the Department of Police for the year under review. It was noted, in particular, that urgent attention should be given to the improvement of management at all levels of the Department but more particularly at station level. Restructuring of the Department in Supply Chain Management and Legal Services was welcomed and the Committee undertook to closely monitor these to ensure that the way in which the Department entered into contracts was greatly improved.

The Committee adopted the BRRR with minor corrections.

Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA) expressed concerns on the statements on page 21 concerning the loss of State owned firearms.

The Acting Chairperson proposed that a sentence be added at the end of the paragraph as to how many convictions had resulted from firearms lost due to negligence. She added that the Committee was to hold a three day strategic planning session, at which some of these issues would be addressed.

The Committee checked for the correctness of the Report which was to be sent to the Minister of Finance in accordance with the Money Bills Procedures and Related Matters Amendment Act (Act 9 of 2009). Members adopted the Report, with minor corrections.

Adoption of Minutes
The Acting Chairperson tabled outstanding Committee minutes for adoption.

Committee minutes dated 09 October, two meetings on 10 October and those on 16, 17 and 18 October 2012 were adopted, with minor corrections.

The Acting Chairperson said that minutes for the first meeting with SAPS on Tuesday 16 October 2012 (morning session) were missing, and that these would be adopted at the next meeting.

The meeting was adjourned.



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