SC Public Services: Committee Fourth Term Programme & Outstanding Matters

NCOP Public Services

17 October 2011
Chairperson: Mr M Sibande (ANC, Mpumalanga)
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Meeting Summary

The Committee met to adopt the minutes for meetings held on the 24 May, 7 June, 14 June, 28 June and 30 August. All the minutes were adopted, with amendments in some cases. The Committee considered the programme for the Fourth Term 2011. Members felt that the programme was too packed and that the study tour needed to be postponed until next year. Members were also dissatisfied with departments not showing up for meetings and cancelling on the last moment.

Meeting report

Consideration and Adoption of Minutes

Minutes dated 24 May
The Chairperson asked the members to consider the minutes of the meeting held on the 24 May 2011.

Mr Z Mlenzana (COPE, Eastern Cape) noted that on page one it was noted that he was absent, but he had in fact attended the meeting.

Ms M Themba (ANC, Mpumalanga) noted the typing error on page one as well; her surname was spelt without the “h”, and there was no Chairperson in the minutes but she had been nominated as Acting Chairperson.

Members agreed and adopted the minutes with amendments.

Minutes dated 7 June

The Chairperson requested that Members consider the minutes of the meeting held on the 7 June 2011.

The Parliamentary Liason Officer noted that the name “Richard” was supposed to be “Rashaad” on page two.

Mr Mlenzana asked that a sentence be included on page three before 2.4 to explain that the agenda of the meeting was not followed.

Members agreed and adopted the minutes with amendments. 

Minutes dated 14 June
The Chairperson requested that members consider the minutes for the meeting of the 14 June 2011.

The committee adopted the minutes.

Minutes dated 28 June
The Chairperson asked that the minutes of the meeting held on the 28 June 2011 be considered.

Mr M Jacobs (ANC, Free State) said that on page one his surname was spelt incorrectly without the “s”.

Members agreed and adopted the minutes with amendments.

Minutes dated 30 August
The Chairperson asked that members consider the minutes of the meeting held on the 30 August 2011.

Mr Jacobs noted that on page 2, it was not the Director General but rather the Deputy Director General who was present.

The Chairperson asked that in future the pages should be numbered.

The committee adopted the minutes with amendments.

The Chairperson noted that there were still some outstanding minutes to be adopted and he would have liked this to be done at the next meeting.

Mr Jacobs said that the Committee should not only look at adopting the minutes but they should also look carefully at the issues raised in these meetings as it affected service delivery. The issues discussed in all meetings were relevant to the people of the country.

Ms Themba requested that the minutes for this meeting should state that the Committee was supposed to meet with the Department of Human Settlements so that it did not seem as if they were only meeting to adopt the minutes.

Consideration of the Committee’s 4th Term programme
Mr Jacobs requested that the date for the study tour discussion be rescheduled for next year.

Ms Themba agreed with Mr Jacobs and added that the Committee had many other obligations right now such as COP17 and also a tour with the Select Committee on Labour to Singapore.

Mr Mlenzana said that he differed with Members. He said that the programme had been emailed to them a while ago and he was the only one who responded to that email with his suggestions. The 6th of December was too packed for him; the 25th October was a repetition of the meeting scheduled for the 15th November and the meeting for the 1st of November should be reconsidered as he felt the departments would not be ready to present the information to them.

The Chairperson said that some issues raised today were not anticipated beforehand and that is why the programme will change. It was important however that departments come and account by the end of the year.

Ms Themba suggested that the Committee Secretary make sure that all Members give their inputs to the chief whip of the committee so that they are taken into consideration when the provisional programme is drafted.

Mr H Groenewald (DA, North West) agreed with Mr Mlenzana. He wanted to know why the Committee had to attend COP17 and what would their purpose there would be. He wanted the information beforehand otherwise he would feel that it was a waste of time. He was unhappy with the fact that the Department of Human Settlements did not show for their meeting and he was dissatisfied that departments were allowed to cancel their meetings with the committee at the last moment.

Mr Jacobs agreed with Mr Groenewald and asked why the committee did not go on the yearly programme that was set up for them.

The Chairperson said that he would not go into housekeeping issues with the members.

The meeting was adjourned.


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