It was agreed to invite Mr J Selfe and Ms P de Lille to present their respective legislative proposals on Presidential Pardons on the 2 March. The Office of the President would also be invited to give its understanding and response to these. It was decided that Mr Pretorius would present his proposal to amend the Land and Agricultural Development Bank Act on 23 March.
The Committee’s International Study Tour was supposed to have taken place in the last session of 2009. Options had been the
Legislative Proposals in respect of Presidential Pardons
Proposals had been received from Mr J Selfe (DA) and Ms P de Lille (ID) to amend the power of the President in pardoning prisoners. The two proposers would be invited to make their presentations before the Committee, and the Presidency would be present to give its response, where after the Committee would deliberate.
Ms P Mocumi (ANC) proposed that Parliament’s legal team be invited first to guide the Committee.
The Chairperson said the mandate was from Section 84(2) (j) of the Constitution, which gave the President powers to pardon prisoners. The legal team would advise the Committee during deliberations after the presentations.
It was agreed to invite the Presidency to the meeting on 2 March. Ms de Lille and Mr Selfe to present their proposals and the Presidency to give its understanding.
Legislative Proposal to amend the Land and Agricultural Development Bank Act
Mr P Pretorius (PA) was not present as he had to attend a SCOPA meeting. The proposal dealt with the appointment of the Board of the Land and Agricultural Development Bank. Ms A Dreyer (DA) explained that there were the two proposals, but the first, dated 23 September 2009, had been withdrawn and was replaced by that of 12 October 2009.
The Chairperson was concerned that as proposals had to go through the Speaker’s Office and not directly to the Committee, it should first be checked with the Speaker as to which version the Committee should consider.
Ms Dreyer pointed out that both proposals were addressed to the Speaker.
The Chairperson said the first proposal came through National Treasury, he did not know whether they had the second version.
Ms J Bednar-Giyose (Director: Fiscal and Intergovernmental Legislation, National Treasury) clarified that the appropriate version had been recorded on the Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports (ATC) and had been formally tabled. It was the correct proposal and the Office of the Speaker was fully aware.
Mr Pretorius would be invited to present on 23 March.
International Study Tour
The Chairperson explained that the study tour was supposed to have taken place in the last term. Options were the
Mr N Fihla (ANC) suggested going to
The Chairperson explained that the countries had been prioritised in that
Mr Fihla said they could not go to
Ms Dreyer supported Mr Fihla; it would also be better value for money.
Ms Mocumi proposed that the Chairperson and Committee Secretary explore to which would be the best country to go.
Mr Lance Greyling (ID) said as member of the Environmental Committee he had been involved in a conference with the UK Parliament last year, and suggested that if
The Chairperson proposed that if financial resources permitted, to go to
It was decided that Management was to explore the travel options and inform the Committee.
Committee Programme for the First Term
The 23 March briefings by Hon Selfe and Hon de Lille on legislative proposals on the President’s power to pardon, were moved to 2 March.
On the 23 March, there would be the presentation by Mr Pretorius on the proposal about the appointment of the Board of the Land and Agricultural Development Bank; and Consideration of Committee Report on the Study Tour.
Adoption of Minutes
The minutes of the Committee meeting held on 17 November 2009 were approved and adopted.
The meeting was adjourned.
- Amended Memorandum submitted to the Speaker in terms of Rule 234 (1) -Private Member's Legislative Proposal
- Memorandum submitted to the Speaker in terms of Rule 234 (1) -Private Member's Legislative Proposal
- Legislative Proposal to amend Land and Agricultural Development Bank Act (No 15 of 2002)
- Independent Democrats submission
- Democratic Alliance submission
- We don't have attendance info for this committee meeting
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